It Was Suddenly Time to Go, But I Was Not Prepared

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Today I woke up at 4:30 am after a disturbing dream. We were running out of time in our country and it was suddenly time to get out. I knew the borders were closing to stop anyone from leaving, but I also knew anyone who stayed here would be killed. I had to take action immediately.

In this dream, all of my immediate family, including my mother, my brothers, and my brothers’ wives and children were all living in one house, like we do when we are on vacation. Something had happened suddenly in the middle of the night to change the situation. Everyone was sleeping, but I knew it was time to go and I had to go right now. I also knew my family thought I was crazy to believe this stuff.

I was not prepared for it, at least not in any practical way. My mind was racing a thousand miles per hour. My heart was beating super fast as I tried to keep myself together and think about what I should do.

I considered escaping on foot, but I wondered how we would be able to get very far that way. I wondered, “Where would we sleep? Where would we find food? How would we get out without getting caught?” I had lots of questions, but no answers. But first I had bigger problems because my wife was not sure if she wanted to go with me. We debated quietly, and it was all I could do to convince her to go with me, but she finally agreed. It was so heartbreaking to consider leaving everyone we loved in this world behind us.

We started sneaking out of the house, but even then we continued quietly debating with each other about what we should take with us. Everyone else was asleep, so we had to be super quiet. I knew if any of them woke up, it would be trouble for us because they all thought I was crazy including my mother who is a devoted Christian. (Her role in this dream does not represent the way she is in real life.)

We went into the kitchen and started grabbing a few items to carry with us. I realized how unprepared I was because I didn’t even have a backpack to take with me, which made it almost impossible to carry anything. My mind was racing to think if there might be a backpack anywhere in the house, but I didn’t think there was. We didn’t have any cash with us either. Nor did we have any plan of where to go or what to take. We just knew we had to go right now. We kept arguing quietly about what we should take.

After taking almost nothing that would help us, we quietly started leaving. We went down a hallway, but for some reason we had to pass through a bedroom where my brother’s boys were sleeping. It was the only way to get out of the house. As we walked through their room, they were sound asleep. We accidentally made some noise, but I looked at them and none of them had woken up. They were in a deep sleep.

We made it through their room and were about to leave, when suddenly my mother confronted us. She had woken up and was very angry like she knew what was happening and wanted to stop us. She demanded to know what we were doing and where we were going in the middle of the night, but not in a nice way. It was like she was demon possessed and ready to do anything to stop us. I knew the same demonic spirit that was on our government was on her too. She was on their side and was even ready to report us to them if we did not stop.

She tried to grab me and I tried to get away from her, but when I did she fell down and hit her head on the floor very hard, and she was knocked out. Then I was both distraught and relieved at the same time because she was no longer a threat to us.

Now that she was unconscious, I realized this was an opportunity for us because we could go back upstairs into her bedroom where she had been sleeping by herself to see if she had any cash we could take with us or anything else that might help us. So I went quietly into her room.

As I was going through her personal belongings, including her pocketbook, my brother’s wife came into the room. Somehow she had heard us and had woken up to see what was going on. She took one look at me and shook her head and said, “Oh no, no, no.”

Then she stomped out of the room quickly. I had to stop what I was doing immediately and hurry to follow her and catch her. She went downstairs and I jumped down the steps fast to grab her. I knew she thought I was crazy, so she was going to wake up everyone to stop us, but I also knew she was a Christian, but a Christian who did not understand or believe anything about what was happening. I thought there might be a chance if I talked to her she would believe me and perhaps she would come with us. I did not think anyone else in the family would listen to us, but maybe she would. I grabbed her arm and tried to think what I could say to convince her. When I looked at her, I could tell she wasn’t sure what to believe. She was torn between thinking I was crazy and knowing I was right. Before I could say anything, I woke up.

When I woke up, I was very upset. It was so disturbing to see my family divided and being forced to make a decision to go without them. All of that was on top of the stress of trying to think about what we should do and how we could get out without being caught. The situation was made even worse because I was not ready in any practical way. The only thing I had going for me was enough discernment to know I had to go, but that was all.

Interpretation:

It was an awful situation, but I believe God gave me this dream because He wants to prepare us for what’s coming. In a separate dream back in 2014, I believe God showed me time is running out for safely leaving the United States before it is too late. I believe that dream revealed we have until the end of 2019, and possibly part of 2020. I shared two posts about that dream:

So perhaps this new dream is revealing a sudden event that happens around 2020.

I believe the night time setting represents deep darkness, spiritual blindness, covering our land (Isaiah 60:1-3). My sleeping family members represent a condition of spiritual slumber, not awakened to the truth or walking in a right relationship with God. Those who were farthest from God were in a deep sleep while those who were closer to God heard us and woke up, even though they did not understand what was happening. They were asleep, but not a deep sleep.

I believe God wants His people to know what is coming so we can think these things through carefully ahead of time. I believe He wants us to make preparations and plans, so we are not put in the horrible situation I was in. Even simple little things could make a big difference, like having a backpack with some essential items in it and some cash on hand. Also, having a well thought out plan ahead of time would be a big help because it is hard to think straight under duress. Also, discussing these plans with other family members and coming into agreement ahead of time would be a big help. When it is time to go, we won’t have any time to be arguing.

The way my mother acted in this dream was totally out of character for her. I don’t believe she would ever really act that way. She is not confrontational and has never acted like she was under the influence of demonic spirits. Perhaps her behavior was just to illustrate the point, warning how families will be divided against one another.

Jesus warned us about these days saying, “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.” (Matthew 10:21-22)

Solomon warned us that a wise man sees trouble coming from a long way off and hides himself from it by making preparation for it, but a fool proceeds on his way and is punished for it (Proverbs 22:3).

I believe the Lord wants us to consider ahead of time the condition of our family members. We must take action now to avoid being put in the terrible position I was in. We don’t have to be unprepared and we don’t have to leave our loved ones behind. We can claim the promise of God for all of our family members to be saved from the coming trouble. It is not necessary for a single one of them to perish. If we believe and take possession of the promises of God, they can be saved and delivered from trouble. Even though they are not yet ready to believe, we can believe in their behalf, which makes a big difference in what happens to them because God moves in our behalf because of our faith.

Here is the promise of God. If we believe in the Lord Jesus, not only will we be saved, but if we stand on His promise, our whole household will be saved too (Acts 16:31). God is able to do that for those who believe, which is not just referring to mental agreement, not just saying we believe God while compromising with sin, but actually walking uprightly before Him. This point is made clear in other scriptures, which reveal the promises of God to bless the children of everyone who walks uprightly.

  • God will bless our children on account of our righteousness (Deuteronomy 28:4, Proverbs 20:7).
  • Our children will never have to seek for food or beg for bread (Psalm 37:25).
  • God has promised the children of the righteous will be a blessing to other people (Psalm 37:26).
  • God promises to extend His faithfulness and perform His promises for our children and our grandchildren for no other reason than because we walk uprightly before Him (Psalm 103:17-18).
  • God has promised the children of the righteous will be mighty on the earth (Psalm 112:2).
  • They will be a tree of life for others (Proverbs 11:30).
  • When trouble comes, God promises the children of the righteous will slip away from any harm that comes their way so they escape from it (amplified from Proverbs 11:21).

These are the blessings of God that belong to everyone who walks uprightly, but we need to agree with God and claim His promises specifically for each of our family members. He has given us authority to do this in the name of Jesus (Luke 10:19).

May the Lord bless all the members of our families who are now sleeping spiritually, so they awaken while they still have time. And may the Lord help each of us use these days wisely because trouble is coming.

James Bailey

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Guild
Guild
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November 5, 2016 7:23 AM

James, there’s a way that seems right a man but in the end leads to distruction. Prayerfully consider that maybe the dates you have reasoned may not be correct. Maybe God wants to get your attention that the time is now. None of us I don’t care how prepared we are… Are ready for what’s coming. I believe all hell is getting ready to break loose now. The Revelation star sign begins November /20/2016. And culminates sept/23/2017. I believe it is the key that unlocks Revelation. If you are supposed to leave? Maybe prayerfully consider that God is telling you the hour is later than you think? Love and humility in Christ.

mem
mem
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November 5, 2016 7:43 AM

Guild – I was thinking exactly the same thing, that this may be God trying to get attention. It really seems like one of those dreams meant to act as a catalyst, where God reaches down in mercy to get us on track when it is urgent
A couple years too early is far better than 10 minutes too late.

serge
serge
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November 6, 2016 3:54 AM

It doesn’t sound like something that would happen under a Trump presidency.

Cherie
Cherie
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November 5, 2016 7:29 AM

Guild
Point well taken. We are not promised tomorrow. Everything must be reconciled in the Word of God. It is foolishness to think otherwise.We must rely on what we “know,” no more surmising. Insure that you are prepared today…
Blessings…

Grace
Grace
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November 5, 2016 2:19 PM

Interestingly, the Lord just said to me that our time is shorter than this post concludes. Not sure exactly what this means but am taking it seriously.

anna
anna
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November 6, 2016 9:50 PM

Yes it is and won’t be too long now for His Return! I found this interesting so sharing.
Woman Sees Jesus Judging A Soul Who Just Died…
Woman Sees Jesus Judging A Soul Who Just Died …
christendtimeministries.com/woman-sees-jesus-judging-s

William
William
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November 7, 2016 12:42 AM

Thank you , anna. The information you provided here is great help to me. I used to not knowing how to say all kind of prayers, the link you provided give me a lot of help.

anna
anna
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November 7, 2016 12:57 AM

you are very welcome. I am happy that it will help you a lot. What kind of prayers are you wanting because I will send them to you? let me know either to here or to your email address. Just let me know.

Praise Yah!

William
William
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November 7, 2016 3:31 AM

Hi Anna,

How to pray for my 6 year old son for all aspects of his well-being: to be saved, to stay away from mine craft YouTube , to be abedient to parent, etc? My email goldenswan@tpg.com.au

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 7, 2016 6:41 AM

this is the prayer i heard in a dream for people that dont want ‘ordinary life’: ask the Lord God to make a plan for you (and your family). keep on praying for him. there is born again Jewish testimony who pray constantly so that God saved their family, the result: one by one his family members won for Jesus. you need to ask the Lord to be able to see & hear what He said, so you will be efficient in dealing with your son. this is also very important as we enter ‘the last hour’.

Jeanne
Jeanne
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November 8, 2016 5:11 PM

Dear unknown servant, I want to apologize and ask forgiveness for calling you false in a past post. While I am wary of some of the things you have said (but not most), and I believe you should be wary of many who come in Jesus’ Name, I see you really desire to follow Him. Please forgive me. Seek the Lord in His Word and be blessed.

I was thinking this morning how on this platform, it is difficult for each of us to communicate completely well in written word. This is why there are many misunderstandings and things taken the wrong way. Writing leaves out voice tone and inflection, and unless you are CS Lewis or Charles Dickins, you can leave the wrong meaning. Everyone, including me, be discerning, but in humility. Blessings.

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 9, 2016 10:26 PM

wise thinking about communication Jeanne, thank you for good advices. may the Lord bless Jeanne & Chloe and the rest of z3news reader here.

Chloe
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November 8, 2016 5:16 PM

Again agreed, Jeanne! (Not stalking you ☺). I also apologize, unknown servant. Please forgive me too.

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 7, 2016 6:55 AM

ask the Holy Spirit to help you pray. pray in tongue…

Jeanne Jorash
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November 8, 2016 8:10 PM

I’ve been doing that A LOT lately! I have not know how to pray–and so that has been my Help!

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 2:56 PM

Maybe you could cancel your u tube account? I don’t know but when you ask the Lord to do something, you as a parent are also required to do something preventative. Your child may throw a fit, but we can’t let our children lead us, but stay firm and if you have to, put a lock on the computer.

William
William
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November 7, 2016 2:09 AM

There are all kind of prayers on the website you recommended . They are good enough for me. I need to spend time to sink them into my heart. Thank again.

Geoff Krieger
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November 5, 2016 4:18 PM

Guild, the Bible days the stars are meant for signs… A sign precedes the event that it is signifying. There are still some prophetic events (including 2 major wars with Israel) that have to happen before the 7 year great tribulation begins. I’m not saying persecution won’t start happening in America for several years, but as far as the command for mass martyrdom of Christians, I think we still have several years. Don’t get me wrong, it’s going to be a brutal few years, but the safest place we can be is in the center of God’s will. There’s about to be a massive harvest of souls in America, but there needs to be laborers for those souls. Terry Bennett said the angel Gabriel told him the years 2015/2016 – 2021/2022 would be a time of civil unrest leading to civil war, then martial law, then world war followed by invasion in America, which would culminate/begin that final 7 year period. Terry was only shown through the year 2028 and the antichrist/beast was throwing his final tantrum. Stan Johnson of The Prophecy Club said God spoke clearly to him that the final sign before boarders would close to air traffic from/to the U.S. would be when we hear of a plane landing here with all passengers found dead due to a virus. He said there will only be 48 hours left to get out of America after this is announced.

jerry rigg
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November 7, 2016 8:58 PM

Is this not a unhealthy dose of sensationalism? People so eager to “get out” of America, but where will they “get out” to? Hong Kong, Phillipines, Thailand? I would respect a supernatural word more if it was the Lord Jesus Himself doing the speaking and not one of His “stand-ins” aka “the angel Gabriel”. Sorry but we need to get some grip on reality here.Blessings to Terry Bennett and Stan Johnson, but some of these “words” are a real reach.

Savage
Savage
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November 6, 2016 5:00 AM

Guild, what is the “Revelation Star Sign” and what do these dates mean?

Guild
Guild
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November 9, 2016 1:30 AM

Hey savage, revelation 12 describes “a wonderous sign in the heavens” there is some info on line about it. It’s an astrological alignment that has not occurred in the past and when going forward in astronomy programs doesn’t show up in the future. It’s start this month on the 20th and has a full gestation period of 41 weeks. The moral of the story is this… It’s in the middle of revelation God /Jesus brings it to our attention a a wonderful sign to watch for and whatever anyone believes about there eschatology… It’s happening. Exciting times we live in! The king is coming and we will see him return! Look it up there is a lot of info.

Ed h
Ed h
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November 5, 2016 3:06 PM

James ,
Pretty intense dream brother. Woah!!! So what now? I have been praying about what to do or where to go but have no revelation yet. I live in Calif and doubt it’s a safe zone . So as of right now I’m staying and praying. I don’t talk too much about this with my wife because it freaks her out. I’m sort of a secret prepper if that’s a word. She sees that I’m buying food and water but probably thinks it’s because it was on sale.

On another note. Has this happened to anyone here on Z3? I’m seeing Christians anytime I go out. I mean real Christians not the bumper sticker kind. It’s kinda Freaky and awesome at the same time. I walked past a person the other day and we made eye contact. He said God bless you and I said back he just did. I knew he was a Christian before he opened his mouth.

I was at lunch and there were 2 woman sitting talking across from me about 8 feet away. I felt I needed to pray for one of them so I did. Now all of a sudden I could hear everything they were saying. The one I prayed for was now witnessing to the other lady. The Lord is blowing me away

sgd
sgd
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November 5, 2016 4:52 PM

I love those Holy Spirit filled moments!!

We use to live in the DC area, somewhat close. We were in China Town and a man was standing on a busy sidewalk with a sign protesting abortion. No one was paying attention to him. I said Shalom and his eyes lit up and he said Shalom! We just had this beautiful spirit connection as we intersected in our day. Now we live in a small town in TX and most everyone, where we live, is on the same page. That is very nice, but it was especially pleasing in the midst of “Babylon” to connect with another Christian.

anna
anna
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November 6, 2016 9:55 PM

I love those moments too! I have had them a few times and for some reason i knew right away they were a kindred spirit. I bet he was thrilled to talk with you.

Peggy A.
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November 6, 2016 3:57 AM
Joey
Joey
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November 6, 2016 1:15 PM

It takes awhile sifting through this disjointed “web presentation” to find a message within. While the message is good, it’s hard to find.

Folks, if you have been blessed financially, or blessed with a home, or an extra bedroom, or property, or provisions. . . YOU MUST SHARE with WHOMEVER the LORD strategically aligns you with . . . AND . . .

. . . with others, as the Holy Spirit leads.

I noticed that you post dozens and dozens of links to this website without giving any indication of what that link leads to or its’ content or message. Maybe next time you can summarize it for us or give some summary of why we should go read this message.

Time is short!

Peggy A.
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November 7, 2016 7:37 AM

Joey,
My motive is only good and to share this good information.
It is presented very succinctly in my opinion and they are RICH in information.
My advice to you is that if it is difficult for you to “sift through,” then simply ignore it and don’t bother opening the links. It is not my job to break down a teaching for everyone which has already been well taught. Besides, how could I properly break it down for each reader, knowing that they are all on varying levels of receptivity and understanding. Talk about wasting my own time! Right now I am seeing white light confirmation on what I just typed.

Peggy A.
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November 7, 2016 7:59 AM

I would like to add that in the links that I post, there are many pictures. Everyone knows that 1 picture is worth 1,000 words. Better than that, LINDA CLAY, the blog author chooses each picture at the specific direction of the Holy Spirit.

That last statement was proved to me directly when I wrote “The Bridal Series” (18 posts) on her blog and the pictures could have been chosen by none other. They were so “right on.” Of course, when people complimented her on the pictures, she mentioned several times way prior to my writing my little part, that the Holy Spirit always directs her (both to the pictures and links that He wants posted).

Kathy Culver
Kathy C
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November 7, 2016 10:05 AM
Peggy, Your a blessing to me –by posting the links that are so informative —Thank you ! I personally don’t have the time –I so glad you take the time, I believe It’s a ministry to all who want to stay informed! We are back from the beach and the ” ashes spread out over the waves ” service. Thankful nothing on that Nov 4th weekend disrupted our sharing Jesus with others ! Was meeting with high school friends , one being a Mormon president—that had sent info on –the spirit world and second chance of receiving Christ in this spirit world. Had already stated my views and the word apposing this false teaching. We bound this mormon spirit before we arrived and not a word was shared out of this spirits corner–thank you Jesus! Holy Spirit was ALL over the time we all spent together! Had believed that the deceased had died in his sin—-had always rejected Jesus and lived for himself. He passed away way to young from hard living—and I had aways prayed for his redemption, for years- was family friend also! When my other friend called to tell me he was gone– it broke my heart , asked the Lord to forgive me for not sharing the gospel . Sorry to long —but have to give Glory to God ! In the wind and tears of the moment of ashes over the waves his brother [ in front of me ] turned to me –we hugged and I asked ” Did J ever receive Jesus” ? With many tears , brother said YES –he did on his death bed and he was very alert and willing to do so ! PRAISE GOD ! His brother , in an overdose, was taken to heaven then to hell… Read more »
Kathy Culver
Kathy C
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November 7, 2016 10:05 PM

This is a Redemption Story—after praying for my friend all my
adult life–the Lord answered my prayer !
Praise God !!!! Thank You Father–YOU are faithful!!
Had shared that fear would not stop me from attending,
on Nov. 4th , even if it would be my last witness–I had heard
to GO ! Thanks for the 2 thumbs up !

Peggy A.
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November 8, 2016 10:57 AM

Kathy,
I certainly want to thank you for that marvelous and very interesting testimony in the top two comments. Fabulous!!
Thank-you for sharing and may you continue this way no matter what. There are crowns for you in Heaven. I know that’s not your motive, but just saying…..

https://believeacts2blog.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/11-12-15-heavens-bling-for-believers/

Kathy Culver
Kathy C
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November 8, 2016 1:24 PM

Amen Peggy A.
May many opportunities come my way to share Jesus !
Did not share this, after J moved to heaven—his brother
was hit [ by the Loser] with corticobasal syndrome and at
the service it was hard for him to talk.
I prayed against this in Jesus name , a Name above
this evil thing C S and at moment looking at a natures way
to combat this plus the word , praise and trusting in a complete turn around !
Greater is He in me and in his brother Terry–than
he [ loser ] that’s in the world !
By Yeshua’s blood and by His stripes we are healed!
God bless and keep you Peggy and all of my Z3 family–
for such a time as this —IS just around the corner.
We don’t know what tomorrow holds–but we know WHO
holds us !

Peggy A.
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November 8, 2016 1:55 PM

Amen, Kathy!
Glad to “know” you!

Peggy A.
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November 7, 2016 11:12 AM

Oh, yes, and the Holy Spirit directs her (LINDA CLAY) to the Scripture, too, AND to the timing of when to release the dreams/visions, many of which were experienced way back in the 1990’s!

Chloe
Chloe
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November 5, 2016 7:38 AM

Dear James, I am not gifted in interpretation but I got a strong feeling, as I was reading this post, that this dream might have been given to let you know the time to leave might be earlier than you believe. I do not know you but I think you are a person who would prepare for departure, make sure backpacks are ready with provisions, and also equip your family members for things to come. So this dream kind of tells me that you would have to leave earlier than you thought. Please take this to the Lord and prayerfully consider things may happen faster than what they seem. (I do not claim that I received this interpretation from the Holy Spirit) Blessings to you and I thank you for what you do on z3.

A. Ayer
A. Ayer
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November 5, 2016 8:12 AM

I agree–I am wondering if all of the insanity of the last week has changed the timing. I simply do not know what to think of the new revelations from these deep government sources. Only that I do not fully trust them. Something does not feel quite right, but I do not know what. I also have had dreams of not being prepared. Perhaps it will not be possible to BE prepared–and God is telling us to, essentially, be ready to head into this in a state of unpreparedness, a state of unreadiness.

sgd
sgd
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November 5, 2016 10:09 AM

Something does not feel right. I have had a very tight and uncomfortable knot in my stomach for about almost three days and it was almost unbearable last night.

sgd
sgd
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November 5, 2016 1:39 PM

I just want to add that two nights ago, I woke up and heard in my spirit, “Put on your sackcloth”; went back to sleep and woke up again and heard, “Put on your sackcloth”.

Last night before going to sleep, the Holy Spirit said Jer 6. I read Jer 6. Very interesting chapter in light of what is happening in our nation.

Christy
Christy
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November 5, 2016 3:17 PM

I was just reading Jeremiah, too, last night. Such a fascinating chapter and prophet!

Hope S
Hope S
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November 5, 2016 6:32 PM

That is exactly what I got as well…That it will be sooner than initially thought and because of that, preparations were not ready for that moment. I felt it was a warning, a revelation, that it will be earlier. BE prepared for God to do things that you were not expecting, in ways you werent expecting . His ways are not our ways and his thoughts are not our thoughts. HE can change the plan at any time and this is just what I felt while reading the post.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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November 5, 2016 7:04 AM
As I have already left the U.S. With my family, I feel that significant things, including persecution of Christians will happen sooner than 2020. My husband & I flew separately with 1 child. I experienced the fear that one of us might not be allowed to leave the U.S. & I expected it to be me (too verbal in today’s pc culture to correct what I knew to be economic lies, lies from the False Prophet & pleading for support for Christian beliefs with Congresspeople, etc.). As my daughter & I missed our flight, it was a very long night to see if we would be meeting up with my husband & son. I wish to share part of an email I sent tonight to friends. Please read. I believe things are ramping up & the chaos will happen soon! We are in very challenging times. The criminality & corruption of Hillary Clinton & multiple government agencies has been exposed through Wikileaks & Anthony Weiner’s laptop. There has even been exposure that Obama lied about not knowing about Hillary’s secret server till the media exposed it. There is a real & present danger of Hillary, Obama & other high-ranking individuals trying to do everything possible to keep the truth from being revealed. Please understand that the criminality encompasses individuals in both parties & has permeated our government at the highest levels. Mc Cain, Graham, Ryan & McConnell are also dirty. Watch this – https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3_ituHmChQ. This is it! There is a follow up one as well – Red Wedding – https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=84xWypsfLgU & the REVELATIONS that top level government individuals are Satanists. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zgpdWFiV0_g There is also what I believe is a psy ops underway by this man, Steven Pieczenik, a respected intelligence individual but also a previous member of the Council on… Read more »
Jeanne
Jeanne
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November 5, 2016 4:52 PM

Expat girl, I agree. The Lord is exposing the evil, but unless the nation turns to Him in repentance, the exposé is only the nation’s heart and the powers that he will stop at NOTHING TO KEEP IN!

Lee
Lee
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November 5, 2016 1:14 PM

I dont trust this guy (Steve P) either, Expat gal. He’s a cleaned up version, with credentials, of B. Fulford. “The white dragons and the good guys are coming to save us”.

Good analysis!

I think the timing is sooner than 2020 & is being driven by the global economic collapse & exposure of corruption & criminality of the USA’s top leaders. Only the Elite know for certain…

I don’t think James’ 2020/21 prophecies are mutually exclusive of SHTF events that seem to be coming upon us now. They probably just get progressively worse.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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November 5, 2016 10:31 PM

Hi Lee! 😊. Thank you for the validation!

Here’s the challenge for all of us is to be in God’s timing, not our own. I believe it is possible that based on where we live or our current spiritual path or events influencing our life, God may be advising people to leave at different times while others are being given directions to stay. It is quite possible that someone could miss an opportunity to move to a safer place or do God’s will elsewhere because of natural disasters, the release of a biochemical agent (did you read about the affluent neighborhood where people were experiencing lung issues?), civil unrest, etc. that if we fail to be obedient & HEED God’s Word, we could end up in a place other than where God planned to use us. As such, I think the window of timing for when it is safe to leave the U.S. Varies by individual & only God truly knows “the hour”. I am slightly disagreeing with a set year for all Americans but only for the reasons I have just shared.

mem
mem
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November 6, 2016 8:09 AM

There is a lot to what you are saying. Waiting until the stampede is full on at the last minute, it is going to be rough. It is important to be ahead of the herd. It is far more expedient to leave while the status quo is still the norm. Once it becomes world news on BBC about the “American refugee crisis”, it will be very difficult. America won’t be the only country looking to close borders at that time. There are so many logistical implications

anna
anna
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November 6, 2016 10:00 PM

they will close all airports and ways for the americans to get out but will letting all the refugees in by the thousands and leaving their borders wide open.
Ah I just love how they treat us in this nation.

anna
anna
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November 6, 2016 9:58 PM

Do you have that link of the release of the biochemical agent where people are having lung issues? Please send if you do.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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November 6, 2016 11:07 PM
Lee
Lee
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November 6, 2016 11:44 AM

Those are all great points.

expat guy
expat guy
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November 6, 2016 4:16 AM

Lee and expat girl I agree with both of you. My sense is FUlford and Steve p both working for NWO, anyone who says WDS benevolent or Kissinger and Bush good men tells me who they work for.

Matt NZ
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November 5, 2016 2:32 PM

My family and I left the USA in 2012. I got made redundant (Layoff) in mid 2015 from the offshore oil industry. I had a dream last night that some of my former coworkers were telling me about openings and why don’t I apply for them. In the dream I was giving every excuse under the sun not to apply for these openings because I didn’t want to be separated from my family. I knew in the dream that things would shortly be heading downhill, I just didn’t know exactly when. These work locations were outside the USA and I still didn’t want to take them

Expat gal
Expat gal
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November 5, 2016 10:36 PM

I can relate Matt. I have had a few teaching job offers here at two different times. The first offer, I felt God did not want me to take this as He had much He wanted me to see. Recently I received a second offer & knowing that this job would prevent my family & I from being able to easily bug out, kept me from taking the position. Right now, I am very clear that I need to stay close to my family & God’s Word & current events to maneuver what is coming b/c no one can truly forecast how different forms of chaos will impact our daily lives. Plus I have been focused on helping some AMERICANS leave the nation.

Sue Miller
Sue Miller
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November 7, 2016 2:24 PM

Expat gal,
I’d be interested in learning more about leaving the country like where to go and how to support yourself. I don’t even know if there is a place where we can be totally safe!

Expat gal
Expat gal
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November 8, 2016 9:17 AM

I posted a recent link about possible good places to relocate to on a Z3 board. Ask James for my email & we can connect up. ☺️ I will try to help any way I can.

Matt NZ
Matt NZ
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November 5, 2016 11:49 PM

I’m watching the events and staying up on the latest prophetic words as well as scoping out the job scene. The people in my dream meant me no ill will. They just didn’t recognize what time it was and were oblivious to things that were coming.

Scout
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November 7, 2016 11:03 AM

Matt, are you in New Zealand now? If so, could we talk

mem
mem
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November 5, 2016 7:08 PM

You were layed off from an NZ company? Or were you working remotely?

Matt NZ
Matt NZ
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November 5, 2016 9:46 PM

A Canadian company doing oilfield contract work. They have contracts globally and I was working 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off.

Tammy Larson
Tammy Larson
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November 6, 2016 11:35 AM

Thank you for sharing all these links. I have never saw the one on the new agers as I call it. Nothing but pure evil and they think they no the way! Jesus is the ONLY way. Thank you again for helping to keep us informed.

jan
jan
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November 6, 2016 5:06 AM

Expat Gal.. As as trained ex investigative journalist that is one massive unsubstantiated statement re Alex Jones. When making such a slanderous claim, ones ” I have 6 trustworthy sources ” simply doesnt cut it. Who are these sources, so then others can do their due dilligence on them. There was much disinfo/ smear campaigns aimed atalex Jones. You’ll need to provide solid PROOF for me to ever believe such tripe !!

Bimsy
Bimsy
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November 5, 2016 9:07 AM

Johnathan Kleck says he is a fallen angel and in the video called This Is It, promotes the satanic doctrine of as above so below.Need i say any more?

Sahran
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November 5, 2016 4:14 PM

He also said Eve had sex with the serpent in the garden and we all have fallen angel dna…I heard that with my own ears…he could be a brother who loves the Lord and just went left with this particular doctrine…very weird tho

Expat gal
Expat gal
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November 8, 2016 9:14 AM

Hi Sahran. Jonathan believes we have a duality in our DNA, evil & good. In order for the good DNA to prevail, we must get turned “right side up” by being saved. He explains how the Satanists wish to keep us blind to Jesus & Christianity so Satan can claim is for his own.

Jeanne
Jeanne
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November 6, 2016 3:46 AM

That is weird. But, he seems right on in essentials and many other things.

Sherry Fortnat
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November 5, 2016 2:56 PM

Bimsy?? Who exactly the ‘he’ that is identified as a fallen angel?? I have seen most of J. Kleck’s latest videos & did not catch what you are referring to?? Thank you!

Bimsy
Bimsy
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November 6, 2016 8:05 AM

Johnathan Kleck himself said he was a fallen angel,i do not know how to do links but it is still on you tube.I have yet to watch a video of his were he does not say something that does not sit well with me.

Alison Pound
Alison Pound
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November 5, 2016 8:12 AM
Excellent dream James, and your interpretation is spot on I believe. Even if people feel they have not been told when to leave, they should be ready, packed,with a route – and alternate route in mind . All loose ends should be tied up so they can just take off. If you are prepared, submitted and willing,I believe you will hear a very clear voice in your ear telling you that now is the time. Some of you have already been told to leave and you have not. This word was given to me in October which seems to fit here. The Lord said: But what are My people, My chosen doing while they watch this all play out? (I saw He meant the Elections) There is much to do. But it seems that they are stuck to their seats at this time, just watching. There is much to be done. Much preparation for what is ahead. Some of you should be leaving. I have told you to go yet you do not trust My voice. Do not be like Lot and his wife. When I tell you to leave the city, or leave the nation, you must do it. Remember if I tell you to do something, I provide the way for you to do it. Some of you should be preparing to feed and clothe and aid those in need. There will be walking wounded. I have sent you to these. They need to know about Me. I have told you this, but you hesitate still. It matters not that no one around you is doing likewise. You will be like Noah. Building the Ark and all around you others are pointing and laughing. Because I have told you alone what is coming. Those around you, you must… Read more »
Peachey
Peachey
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November 5, 2016 7:41 PM
Just before I moved to the Ozark mountains I was given a dream from the Lord. I was standing on an airplane tarmack. Planes were parked ar an angle on both sides of the runway. I saw people quickly going into these planes. The Holy Spirit spoke to me and revealed that the people moving quickly to the planes were those that heeded his warning to move from their current location to where the Lord was sending them. They were all going to different destinations. The Holy Spirit said that many had been warned to move but did not listen. As a result many were going to die. I was talking to my mother outside the stairs leading up to the planes door. My mother said she could not go with me as there was something she needed to do. I heard the engines reve up on the plane I was to take, and thought to myself I had better hurry onto the plane or I would miss it. As I took my first step invisible arms wrapped around me and put me on the plane. As I looked for an empty seat, there was one left towards the back. One lady had her feet hanging over the seat next to her and did not want to give up her comfort so I could sit. The Lord said the rapture would take place in so many years from my departure. I can not remember the time. I moved here four years ago but I drove. I asked the Lord six months ago if I should move again, and he said stay. Some people are called to stay where they are like my mom, because there is something the Lord needs them to do. Some need to leave for different parts… Read more »
Donna Bryant Sikes
Donna Bryant Sikes
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November 6, 2016 8:56 AM

This came to mind this morning and I pictured James and his family leaving by water. I’m praying God will lay it on someone’s heart to contact James with the transportation at the time the Lord tells him to leave. I know if He gives the order, He will give the way.

mem
mem
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November 6, 2016 9:14 AM

Ouch, leaving by water is not a good sign. That would not be the preferred means of travel and very risky, possibly meaning that air travel is grounded and no longer possible at that time.

Donna Bryant Sikes
Donna Bryant Sikes
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November 6, 2016 10:03 AM

And I didn’t clarify it wasn’t a vision. Just ran thru my head for some reason. I’ve been praying for him and his family.

Oliver
Oliver
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November 5, 2016 2:53 PM

This truly speaks to me. A few months back on one early morning, (I was half awake, half asleep) I heard the word “LEAVE!” in a stern voice. Since then I had been asking the Lord where to? (The Lord has not given me any answer yet) I tell my family these things and they do not believe me. It is really frustrating. Please pray for my family that the Lord will open the eyes and ears of their understanding. Thank you.

Ken Harbeson
Ken Harbeson
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November 5, 2016 7:18 PM

Lord may you touch the hearts of Oliver’s family so that they may have ears to hear your calling. Give Oliver strength to endure and the words to speak to his family so they may understand your love and the lateness of the hour. We thank you for your patience and grace. We give all the glory to you Lord. We ask all of this in Jesus name, Amen.

Oliver Apacway
Oliver Apacway
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November 6, 2016 5:27 AM

Thank you Ken, I appreciate your prayer. God bless.

mem
mem
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November 6, 2016 1:49 PM

When I read what you wrote I thought of Abraham. He was told to leave his homeland, without a destination given. God didn’t tell Abraham where to go until after he obeyed and left is homeland. Only then did God direct him. Talk about faith in action!

Mary
Mary
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November 5, 2016 9:42 AM

PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!! I can’t express the need I have had to hoard. When sales come, when kids grow out of clothes, army coats given to us as well as back packs. Health stuff, hotel soaps, the list is endless. And the medical supplies, as a nurse, I’m thrilled when that stuff is given to me. Aiding others is my calling for now. But Holy Spirit has told me, that if I had the house and land I wanted, I wouldn’t want to move… and that was several years ago! Awesome word, thank you!

Christine Hinzman
Christine Hinzman
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November 6, 2016 4:00 PM

Mary, Thank you for your post. I am also a nurse and also have been called to be a Joseph. I buy medicine to share because I know someone is going to need it. Holy Spirit has never told me to move from the USA, but rather to prepare to help others. PTL! The giver of our assignments to glorify Him!

Mary
Mary
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November 7, 2016 1:32 PM

I am no one special, and trying to figure out what I can do to help others has been a struggle, but It has always been a desire to care for others, so feeding, trending to wounds, etc….That is a way to spread the gospel for sure!

Kimberly G.
Kimberly G.
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November 5, 2016 10:08 AM

AWESOME word Allison. And thanks to James for sharing his dream and providing this space to “reason” with each other. Lord God Almighty, help us all prepare to take our unique places in these tremulous days.

Peggy A.
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November 5, 2016 9:13 AM

Alison,
Excellent word. Thank-you for sharing.

Phillip
Phillip
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November 5, 2016 5:53 AM

I am from south Africa.lately I feel more and more the need to put up places of shelter for american christens. The lord did not tell me yet to do so. All I do know is that our country will be a sheep nation during end times. I will spend time with our lord Jesus this week to find out if this is of him or myself. I do know for sure we will be a sheep nation. I will also appreciate confirmation. I have identify several places that will be good for places of refuge. I put this out maybe someone can find it useful.

Rachel Baxter
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November 5, 2016 12:52 PM

Holy Spirit just confirmed what you wrote to me. I never thought of Africa as a place of refuge but I do feel God’S heart in that. How ironic is it that thousands of American christians have been missionaries in Africa serving Africa but in the last days God will return the blessing in that Africa will be a safe place of refuge to many.

Matt Smith
Matt Smith
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November 5, 2016 3:08 PM

One day the Lord will bless me to move Africa, hopefully Uganda. They have plantains, 🍌, and matooke, all day. I love plantains, and Uganda as a nation is becoming more Holy Spirit filled, than America. I listen to a lot of Ugandan, Kenyan, S. African worship music, I know God is currently moving in several African nations.

mem
mem
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November 6, 2016 1:45 PM

Have you been to Uganda?

Matt Smith
Matt Smith
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November 6, 2016 6:42 PM

I have not. But, every person I have ever met from Uganda are the most friendliest people. I also do research on other countries, and where they are headed in a Christian stand point. Food is something I look at as well. I love different cultures of food.

Graham SA
Graham SA
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November 6, 2016 8:22 AM

It is Matt. Blessings

sgd
sgd
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November 5, 2016 10:13 AM

Phillip, my husband has mentioned South Africa as a place for us to relocate if Hillary is elected.

phillip
phillip
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November 8, 2016 2:22 AM

Pay attention to that. Before God (yes, before Him and not before human rights manifesto’s) the husband is the head and God will lead him to guide the family to safety. He will also confirm His instructions for the family to the
wives so that there can be harmony and peace. Peace and blessings to you. You must seek the Lord very, very earnestly for America will be taken down before the 7yrs great tribulation. That’s why they are not in end time Bible prophecies. They are not the whore in Rev. 18.

Dov Sar
Dov Sar
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November 6, 2016 11:19 AM

I believe that your nation IS a nation of sheepdogs. South Africa once made a covenant with Israel; your government has changed, but the covenant betweens the peoples still stands before the Lord. One day your people (not necessarily your current government) will help shelter and protect the Jews (and perhaps other Christians) in the times to come. I am from U.S. but have association with many South Africans believers who feel the way you do. Your sheepdog work may not happen in your nation; it may happen elsewhere, even on a different continent. Be flexible and hear the Lord’s call when He calls you!

mem
mem
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November 5, 2016 7:35 AM

Phillip – How do you know South Africa will be a sheep nation?

phillip
phillip
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November 8, 2016 2:05 AM

hi mem
God revealed it to me during private Bible studies. Yes, there are many things in South Africa that’s evil and discouraging. However, God takes heed of the many disciples who are in deep prayer before Him for our country and persecuted Christians. We are still a Christian country with many true believers who know the end times and each one gets their instruction for what to pray for and what to do and what not to do. I know that after our storm (it will not last for many years) new Christian leaders in SA will be sympathetic towards persecuted Christians and we will help them lawfully and legally. No need to violate our country’s laws. We must always try to respect the government laws. God will make a way for those who can hear from Him and tell them when to move and where to. I identified 3 places in our country in the western cape province where persecuted Christians can be accommodated and even settle. I think that next year God will use us to help persecuted Christians to come to SA. I have not received any specific instructions yet. All I know for sure is that SA (difficult to believe?) will be a sheep nation during the 7year tribulation but I intend to be ready for the rapture before the 7years. However, I would like to spend the time left to get
places ready for persecuted Christians (I have the Americans on my heart, don’t know why) who will not be ready for the rapture and will have to go through those 7years or for those who might experience persecution before the 7yrs.(birth pangs as Jesus warned in Math.24)
countdown.down9@gmail.com

Antoinette Paulsen
Antoinette Paulsen
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November 7, 2016 6:18 AM

Hi Phillip I am from South Africa and I am trying to reach someone in our country to discuss issues in relating to the end times. I have numerous times trying to reach out to pastors but always God closes the door for me and said its not time yet. Maybe its time? Regards Antoinette

Graham SA
Graham SA
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November 7, 2016 2:00 PM

Hi Antoinette
You can email me too if you wish. I live in Randburg, JHB. Email address is gwhite687@gmail.com. God Bless.

Serving Savage
Serving Savage
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November 7, 2016 9:33 AM

Hallo Antionette
You are welcome to make contact with me. I am also in SA, and has been awake and at it since 2008.
Regards
Savage

Antoinette Paulsen
Antoinette Paulsen
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November 7, 2016 9:36 AM

Hi Serving Savage, please sent me your email address. Thanks.

Graham SA
Graham SA
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November 6, 2016 8:20 AM

Hi Phillip.
I live in SA aswell, my spirit agrees with what you’re saying. I had the opportunity to emigrate 2 years ago, but the Lord brought me home. My church here is really doing what it’s called to do, the “Great Commission.” As things move on, I see the church do more. Greetings and God bless.

Matt NZ
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November 5, 2016 2:22 PM

Phil, What do you think of Mozambique? Pemba?

phillip
phillip
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November 8, 2016 3:10 AM

not politically stabile. Know of people who lost property which they have bought and renovated and after everything was beautifully restored, they were chased away. Had to flee. But if God directs you to Mozambique, He will be with you He knows the future.Blessings and peace.

Jeanne
Jeanne
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November 5, 2016 4:55 PM

😊

Donna Bryant Sikes
Donna Bryant Sikes
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November 5, 2016 12:23 PM

Maybe you feeling the need to is the Holy Spirit speaking to you. God bless you for the heart to care for others.

Mikey H
Mikey H
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November 7, 2016 12:51 PM

James, your family, Z3 family and all the USA citizens, we send you our love, prayers and thoughts at this very pivotal time in your history, along with my fellow South African’s.The next few days will be interesting. The whole world is watching and waiting, because much depends on the outcome.
I’m reminded of the story of a little old lady who very sincerely went up to Dr RW Shambach and said, “Pastor, I have no family, I have no one, I’m all alone, all I have is Jesus” He looked at her sternly and replied, ” HE’s ALL you have ….. HE’s ALL you NEED Mama !!”
Whichever way this election goes, and whatever happens on the mainland, HE’s all you need, Jesus is ALL you need. Be found in HIM (Acts 17:28) Amen.

Chloe
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November 7, 2016 2:19 PM

Amen Mikey. You have a heart of gold. I also pray for all z3ers in USA. Whatever happens, let His will be done on the earth as in the heaven.

Jesse Terrelle
Jesse Terrelle
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November 5, 2016 9:48 PM

With all due respect, anyone who has read all the extremely dire prophetic warnings on this site—cities destroyed, tsunamis, Houston and Dallas destroyed, and with the great possibility of a postponed, suspended, or challenged election—-with ALL of this going on, who can possibly even be thinking about 4 years from now? After reading posts from Z3 News, I’m not sure I will see Thanksgiving. And I’m not trying to be sarcastic, or witty. It just seems things are so IMMINENT, that’s all.

kathy P
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November 8, 2016 9:59 AM

Jesse, this made me laugh out loud!! “not sure I will see Thanksgiving”…. Good one!! I too, have thought the same thing. lol!!

mem
mem
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November 5, 2016 1:15 PM

I’m not waiting on Trump to make America great again. I’m waiting on Yeshua to make Jerusalem great again!

mem
mem
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November 9, 2016 9:18 AM

I think great special danger is on the horizon for the nation. In fact it may be even worse as now unusual means are all that remain for use by the shadow elite

I have felt sick to my stomach, a terrible foreboding. Even as Trump was announced as the presumptive winner, I couldn’t understand why I would feel sick…I was glad Killary didn’t get the satisfaction of winning, one of the most corrupt politicians in history. I would be very happy to see Roe v Wade and Gay Marriage overturned

I think there is much more going on than meets the eye. While in the natural we can surmise that Killary would have provoked Russia to attack the US, I think it is far more complicated and obfuscated the real mechanisms. An escape from a bear only to be mauled by a lion in hiding, while we take a load off and relax.

We have Obama still in office. People right now, are essentially saying “Peace. and Safety…as a result of this election. Putin reaches out to Trump, in a peaceful gesture, wanting to restore relations between the the Russia and US.

This could result in the pedal going to the metal. Did we get a reprieve from judgement or is the opposite upon us.

Be prepared for the worst false flags in history.

Jesse Terrelle
Jesse Terrelle
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November 9, 2016 1:03 PM

I feel about the same, brother (Mem). I woke up this morning and turned on the computer quickly to find out who won. I was greatly relieved Hillary did not win, but strangely I was not jubilant that Mr. Trump won. Of course I’m glad he did—it’s just that things are not complete yet. It is a LONG time until Jan. 20. Until I personally see the big U- Haul truck pull away from the White House, and see B.O.’s daughters waving goodbye out the window—I will be monitoring the news. There are some bad people out there– here and abroad—–who could wreak havoc. And I still remember Glenda Jackson’s prophecy. We better pray hard while we also celebrate.

Jon
Jon
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November 9, 2016 11:46 AM

If Donald trump truly is a “nationalist” and if he isn’t in the pocket of the globalist. If he truly believes in nation sovereignty and not global governance, that will be a problem. The MSM was absolutely attempting to tilt the balance in HRC favor. They provided her with the debate questions beforehand among Other things, I’m sure. There were widespread reports of voter fraud, in her favor I.e. Double votes, voting machines switching to HRC etc. it appears that the attempts to rig the election were unsuccessful. Is it possible this was truly a landslide victory, it terms of popular vote, of a much greater margin? Only to be overshadowed by voter fraud in her favor? Who knows for sure.

However, if Donald Trump truly is nationalist, that is a big problem for the NWO. If plan A failed for the globalist, will there be a plan B? If so, What could it be?

Jerome Popiel
Jerome Popiel
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November 9, 2016 8:05 PM

I agree Jon. Trump is the worst nightmare of the elites (aka illuminati). You can bet they have a plan to keep him from taking office. Don’t stop praying for DJT now. Its not over yet.

dan
dan
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November 9, 2016 12:13 PM

Plan B will be as many of us received a vision. A false flag will be triggered and then there will be chaos, Obma will not recognize the election result and declare martial law. Trump will not be accepted as elected and this fulfills the vision ppl received. Only thing to watch is what will the false flag.

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 3:36 PM

Please pray. O has invited Trump to a transition meeting, tomorrow, November 10. Please pray for the blood covering of Christ over Trump and for his protection and Pence and their families. I don’t know if this is normal protocol, especially when not all the votes are counted even though a concession was made by Clinton. I heard that speech but didn’t really hear a concession, but she stated she agreed to work with Trump…what? Is she putting out a idea that if things don’t go her way that she gave him a olive branch that it covers her? I don’t know, but this thing is not over, and Trump is not in office. Many things can happen between now and then.

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 9, 2016 9:47 PM

before election, i saw something in dream, so i checked for confirmation, then i found what Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj received about Donald Trump. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqMDSURQPuU

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 10, 2016 1:11 AM

what i saw in the dream is not about president election, instead something about ‘other countries’. but i found the link while checking for confirmations.

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 10:35 AM
Mem, love you brother, but I disagree. God is not a trickster. I believe that this election has to do with the plumb line of Amos 7. This is not a thus saith the Lord, but we have been given tools to make decisions, and it depends how we discern what has actually been a deliverance to the extent that we are now in the battle as Christians, to have certain strongholds broken. Answered prayer. Does this mean peace and safety, no. I don’t think there are many that believe this is a peace and safety moment and that it is a trap. We know what the Bible tells us about those that say peace and safety then sudden destruction. We are seeing those that have hidden behind lies taking many captive being shaken out of office…it will trickle from the top down as judgement, but with this election there is an opportunity for a great harvest. How we use this time will tell more about us than about the presidency. Answered prayer.. I believe that there is a greater battle taking place, though, that includes all of us, and each of us will have to wrestle with doubt, overcome in Christ, and seek to how we will fulfill our assignments. Regardless of who won, the nation will never be the same again. I believe that we have an answered pray in front of us, but we doubt God for providing a coarse vessel. We ask God to reveal the darkness, and we have been seeing that happen. Answered prayer. I recall a dream that I had years ago. I was on a long dusty trail, not much traveled. Along the way I saw a clay vessel that had been broken and long forgotten. As I looked at it to… Read more »
mem
mem
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November 9, 2016 12:07 PM
KS – I think I understand your view and I understand where you and others are coming from. I do agree God is not a trickster, that is not what I meant to imply/say. I am not saying Trump is not the better of two choices in a binary secular election with no further information to be had When Israel asked for a King they got what they asked for, but they got a lot more than they bargained for. God didn’t want them to have a King, God wanted to rule them directly, but God gave them what they asked for eventually. They asked so fervently and so persistently, they begged and begged and God gave them what they wanted. That to me is not being a trickster. God is simply sovereign and a lot smarter than any of us. Yet, he desires to please His limited and mortal children. To give them what they ask for, even though they may not really understand what they are asking for I grew up in a Christian family, my mom was always a “one issue voter”. Whoever was against abortion was who she voted for. In my youth I thought she was unsophisticated for doing so. Now I realize why that was so important. It is not about the pocketbook, it is about the shedding of innocent blood. It is about the legislation of immorality. I remember when Bill Clinton was elected, both times, she said “Well, there goes the country, down the tubes” as we turned off the tv and went to bed. When George Bush Sr and George W Bush were elected she was thrilled, ecstatic. Regardless of what many think about this election, I, personally, believe that we are in the end times, and the identity of the… Read more »
Elizabeth
Elizabeth
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November 9, 2016 1:35 PM

I do believe we are in the end times but, IMO, there is a difference between judgement (Gods) and the plans of the enemy. God can stop the plans of the enemy because he is hearing our prayers but that doesn’t mean he will stop his judgement. Trump is not our Savior, Jesus is, but Hillary is evil, and our Holy God kept her out of office.

Shelley
Shelley
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November 9, 2016 4:45 PM

I am hoping God will show us how we can stop killing our unborn babies. He will give us a clear plan on how Trump will help us do that. This might be the one reason he won. One thing at a time. No mumbling and criticizing Trump, llet’s ask God what our next step will be.

OutdoorJon
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November 9, 2016 5:50 PM

I remember Lana Vawser and Mena Grebin both said the Lord told them that professing Christians who voted for Hillary would get a deception on them for doing this. Today something eerie happened. I went to the local museum for some business. Three retired Christians were working there. We had a good talk about the Lord. One of these ladies that I always knew as nice sneered at us and walked away. It looked demonic in her face. The others said it was divided between them and her today because of the election. It was like a demon manifested in her because we were happy about the election. She voted for Hillary and the rest of us voted for Trump. Voting for Hillary was enabling a continual death structure I said.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth
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November 9, 2016 4:50 PM

Shelly, I totally agree. The killing of our babies, the child sacrifices by our elites, and the rapes/torture/slaughter in the middle east makes me want to vomit.

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 5:50 PM

Hi Shelley, I agree, but I think that we have to help Mr Trump. This is the key issue to my thinking, and if we can turn this it is like destroying the Molech idol in the land. May it be so. Lord help us.

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 12:59 PM
Mem, We as Christians have an opportunity for a harvest, a time to truly prepare, and time to draw close to the Lord. It’s what we do with this time that will make a difference in so many ways for ourselves and for others. I don’t know why you are mentioning something about 2100 or 2200. But like you, when I hear about x amount of years, decades, or more, it quenches my spirit, which seems to be what you feel/think/believe, too. I think that time is short, but the coming of the Lord is not outside of His word, and there are yet prophecies to be fulfilled. God does not break His word, and the evil side would try to force events, not unlike those that sealed the Eastern Gate in Jerusalem to stop the Messiah from coming in that gate and in their thinking, that they could stop the Second Coming of Christ. As for the people that didn’t want to hear from God for themselves, and calling to be like the nations, He gave them that. Yet all through the Bible is a pattern of people turning from God, then when they returned to Him He returned to them. The prophets were hated, as Jesus was hated, and the Christian that is not hated may find that they have become friends with the world. When I say this I am not speaking of you or me or anyone here, but as a point of discernment for us. I just see how much DT is hated, and I think that is a good thing, it’s a humbling thing and in humbling all of us we learn obedience. Christ is not coming next week or next month like many people think. It is soon, but not yet. The false… Read more »
Jerome Popiel
Jerome Popiel
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November 9, 2016 7:56 PM

I don’t know if you keep up with prophetess Mena Lee Grebin, but she has predicted something serious to occur in December. There are no details given, but it would not be surprising if it was an event aimed at keeping Trump from taking office.

JAVITA
JAVITA
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November 9, 2016 10:30 PM

I went to Mena Lee Grebin FB page and it is diwn, it says content not available.Has anyone else experienced that?

Rachelle
Rachelle
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November 9, 2016 11:31 PM

She disabled her account, probably just temporarily though.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth
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November 9, 2016 8:22 PM

I follow her. Couldn’t get to her FB page today. What this prediction new?

Rachelle
Rachelle
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November 9, 2016 10:22 PM

I tried too, looks like she disable her FB account.

Jerome Popiel
Jerome Popiel
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November 9, 2016 8:44 PM

No, it was at least a month ago and I heard it on YouTube.

Sahran
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November 9, 2016 9:35 AM

Thank you for this post. .i did not vote, not because I thought Donald was not a real christian. I went from the aystem.is rigged to maybe it is the Lords will for him to.be in office, but when I settled.for.not.voting I asked Himif I’m wrong.please.let.me.know…nothing…I took it as my decision was fine….I was relieved Hilary didn’t win and my Christian Co worker’s weree.rejoicing and I almost got caught up.but I know something still isn’t right…

Jerome Popiel
Jerome Popiel
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November 9, 2016 7:46 PM

Unfortunately this is the human thinking of many believers. Lincoln was not a Christian when elected either, but that didn’t hinder God from using him, however I have heard testimony from certain ministers that DJT has accepted Christ. God bless him!

Sahran
Sahran
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November 9, 2016 10:48 PM

Read my post carefully..I said its not like I want to vote 4 him because I thought he was not a Christian…that was never my issue

SeanC
SeanC
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November 9, 2016 11:01 PM

I voted for Trump and in one sense I regret it. I have a strong feeling that we will have difficult times ahead. It is very possible Trump can still be assassinated. Already there are riots and people have been killed in these anti-trump riots. They want him dead!

Many people are claiming Trump to be a Cyrus figure. I do not think so. I think that is a deceiving spirit. America has not repented and without it, judgement is waiting to happen. The Millennials are desperate and truly believe their livelihood is at stake. Trump is part of God’s judgment…to the church. Through him, Satan is going to raise violence against us. Not by Trump’s will, but because of how the unsaved will retaliate and react to Trump. They will turn on us for bringing this on them.

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 9, 2016 9:56 PM

dear Sahran, here is message from Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj received about Donald Trump. i know weeks before election Donald Trump went to meet Rick Joyner. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zqMDSURQPuU.

Helen
Helen
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November 9, 2016 1:12 PM

It may not quite be over yet-
This article posted by Michael Synder- 21 states that do not impose penalties on “faithless electors”
No Matter What Happens, We Won’t Know Who The Next President Will Be Until December 19th
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/no-matter-what-happens-we-wont-know-who-the-next-president-will-be-until-december-19th

Elizabeth
Elizabeth
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November 9, 2016 1:29 PM

We need to keep praying. We cannot rest. Our prayers were heard by our Father in heaven. We need to pray for Trump/family safety and for God to continue to destroy the plans of the enemy.

Helen
Helen
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November 9, 2016 1:34 PM

Amen! Intercessory prayers and fasting now more than ever.

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 2:42 PM

Hi Elizabeth, I just read that O invited Trump to come to the WH for a transition meeting Thursday, tomorrow. Please pray! I know that there is a mesmerizing effect from meetings with O, but thank God it’s not in a plane. We really need to pray that Trump or any one comes under the influence or curse of a pythian.

Elizabeth
Elizabeth
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November 9, 2016 3:13 PM

Good Point

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 2:43 PM

Actually, that no one comes under the pythian spirit.

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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November 9, 2016 5:46 PM

Hi Helen, I didn’t know that? I think this is the mandate to us to keep vigilant and pray without ceasing with the full armor of God.

Father, I ask that you will protect those that will submit to your will who are being placed in high places, as we know that their being there is actually to confront a spiritual enemy. May no weapons formed against Mr. Trump and Mr Pence prosper, and those that have the testimony of Christ, prosper, and all that curse us be exposed.

Bless the men and women and children around the world that have prayed for America, and those here that have stood in the gap. We know that nothing will be the same again, but it is a blessing to us to overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony. Christ Jesus lives.

Helen
Helen
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November 10, 2016 1:26 PM

Diana Pulliam’s message today confirms our concerns for Donald Trump’s safety.
May the Lord place His hedge of protection cover Trump and his family, especially today as he visits the White House.

unknown servant
unknown servant
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November 9, 2016 11:53 PM

dear Helen, i saw in dreams there will be bank crisis in near time. one of those survived is Standard Chartered.

Helen
Helen
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November 10, 2016 1:18 PM

No doubt we are facing an economic crisis based on bank insolvency. Most experts recommend keeping only the cash you need to pay bills in the bank, invest in PM’s if you can, and store plenty of food and water.

Anto
Anto
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November 11, 2016 10:14 AM

Unknown servant

You mean in whole world or US only?

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