I had a dream early Friday morning July 8, which has me thinking the current upward movement in the stock market will be ending very soon. I shared my dream in a comment early Friday morning, but wanted to provide the more complete version here along with what I expect to happen next.
In this dream, I visited two butcher shops, which were owned by two brothers. Each brother owned his own shop. I went into the first brother’s shop and saw he was very busy with many customers buying his beef. I never saw his face, but he gave me a little tour of his shop and showed me a large section in his refrigerated case, which was now completely empty because it was all sold out. However, I noticed the section next to it was still filled with beef.
Next, I visited the other brother’s shop and he also gave me a tour of his shop although I never saw his face either. I saw he had also sold lots of beef, perhaps even more than his brother because his shop was now completely sold out. That was the end of the dream.
As I woke up, I thought about the dream and understood the two brothers and their two shops represented two bullish days in the equities market, which were Friday July 8 and Monday July 11. Even before seeing the jobs report, which was released at 8:30 am Friday morning, I already knew the market was going to respond favorably and it did. However, I also knew by the end of the day on Monday the upward movement would begin to fizzle out because there would be no more beef left to buy.
Just as I expected, the market moved higher on Friday as the S&P Index closed up 32.00 points. It now appears Monday will be another bullish day because futures are currently up 8.5 points.
If my interpretation is correct, the market is very close to topping, which means Monday would be a great time to take short positions. However, I am still watching for the fulfillment of another sign to show we have reached the top, which is based on a word I received back on March 31 2016, which I shared in my post God Reveals Timing of Market Top. In that post, I shared how God said to me, “The market is going to close at a new high. Then it will open the next trading day at another new high.”
The S&P closed that day at 2,059.74, which was 74.98 points below the all-time high of 2,134.72, which was reached on May 20 2015. With so far to go, it was hard for me to believe the S&P would ever break the all-time high, so I assumed He was referring to a new high for this year or this season. After all, He did not say it had to be the “all-time” high, so I dismissed that possibility and watched for the fulfillment of the other two conditions, closing at a new high and opening the next day at another new high. Those have been met at least four times since then, but we now know none of those were the top, which leaves only one possible conclusion. He must have meant exactly what He said, the “new high” will be a new all-time high. It all sounds so simple in hindsight, right?
The S&P closed Friday at 2,129.90, which means it only needs to move up 4.82 points to reach the all-time high. With futures already up 8.5 points, that appears to be well within reach.
Combining my butcher shop dream with this word, I am watching for it to close at a new high, then open higher the next day. Seeing that pattern will give me confidence we have finally reached the top.
If we don’t see that pattern on Monday and Tuesday, I believe it will happen soon because in a separate dream regarding an inverse ETF called UVXY I saw some sideways movement after the vertical movement stopped, but the length of time was not identified. So another possibility is we hang around the top for a short time before finally seeing it confirmed by closing at a new high and opening the next day at another new high.
I believe my butcher shop dream confirms my UVXY rocket ship dream because both indicate the upward movement in the equities market is almost finished, which is good news for anyone holding inverse ETF’s. Prices would never be this low again, so it would be a great time to add to those positions.
As always, these insights are offered only to provide a starting point for prayerful consideration and are not recommendations for making any investment decisions.
Author: James Bailey
James Bailey is a blogger, business owner, husband and father of two grown children. In 1982, he surrendered his life to the Lord Jesus Christ. In 2012, he founded Z3news.com to broadcast the message of salvation by reporting end time news before it happens.
Hi guys, I’ve a dream yesterday which i’ll just share which may help the z3ers here hopefully! I’am like everyone else here invested heavily in faz and uvxy and have been praying for market dreams. Btw i worked in an aviation line for around 2years already and NEVER before dream dreams about F16 planes.
In the dream, I’am looking at 3 fighter airplanes(F16) and i’am the ground crew and waiting for the pilots to board the planes. 2 pilots each and before they board(i was looking at a screen probably from a video CCTV and suddenly i just saw at the bottom there’s an arrow pointing right to a number 5 like this —–>(5) and after a few seconds left arrow appears and the number 5 like this (5)<—
for the first 2 planes.
When it comes to the 3rd plane, i was transit to being infront of the a/c and saw the first pilot in my own eyes get seated in at the forward seat(F16 has only 2 seats and followed by the second pilot get seated at the back. EOD.
Any idea about this dream here? It could or could not be a market dream and need help to decipher !
Hi z3,
You might want to look at the mining stocks . They are coming off a huge bear market and starting to turn. There are big players getting in and when the physical starts taking off these miners will explode in price.
Just wondering if the Z3 group still has a consensus that a crash is coming in Sept/October ? Or maybe invest in miners is the way to go ?
Tony,
My opinion here only. Yes I believe we will see a crash in October. 9 of the largest crashes have happened in October. I also think we will see ups and downs in the waiting period.
This market is almost identical as the last two major corrections.
Timing this market is almost impossible. The charts and technicals should work but with all the funny money being dumped into the markets it’s so unpredictable.
I’m going with the mining stocks because after 5 years of being beat down they are now showing signs of life. Some are up 200-300 % but this is only the beginning. I’m still shorting the banks as well.
I do have the 9th of AV and Elul 29 on my radar for this year. Days to watch for sure.
We need to keep our sense of humor.
I have to laugh. It helps us maintain our sanity in a world disconnected from reality. There is no credibility to the markets. They are a joke and someone is going to be left holding the bag when it implodes. How about a little humor?
Some classic lines from recent posts…
“How can we feel truly blessed, if we don’t know what it’s like to lose 60% of our account?” Ouch. I felt that! And some are down more than 60% and still hanging on. Bless you.
“It is coming.” (The Crash, that is. It’s been coming for months. How about Christmas in July? That would be a very nice gift!)
“Yes, these days I have to be pragmatic, with a good sense of humor, because I am HEAVILY in the red.” Boy, oh, boy, lots and lots of RED. Many of us have been on a very tough learning curve. This is surely an endurance race.
“With all that is happening behind the scenes right now, we are on the better side even though it looks ugly.” It looks a lot worse than ugly, from my perspective. In the natural, it looks like a full-blown investing disaster!
It sure seems like the enemy is trying to crush us. I am glad God’s in charge and I’m trusting in Him. Otherwise, it looks like I’m hopelessly in the hole. With patience and humor, I surrender it all to the Lord.
I hope the enemy is really ticked off with us taking a whipping in the markets and we are still holding our ground. In the end, the joke is on him!
We all need to take a break and have a laugh. Humor is good medicine. So, please make mine a double dose!
Amen Wayne,
i thought it was funny that Nick thought his Uvxy he sold on Friday went to $30 this morning.
That would have been a serious bummer!!!!
…and if it really had gone to $30 plus, you would have heard Z3 members cheering around the world! lol
Ed h,
If I counted correctly, UVXY is down 17 of last 19 trading days. Seems to me they are trying to shake off the shorts! I’m now wondering how long this can last with the continued downtrend!? Considering Phanuel’s date window closing on the 28th of this week, seems like we may need an event to close under 2089!? A drop of 179 S&P points is a 1400-1500 relative drop in the DOW.
I thought today might be the start of some relief….maybe tomorrow will be our day!!
Blessings!
Tom P,
Uvxy is down 59.7% in the last 21 trading days. It needs to go up 248% to hit Brexit Monday level. It will do that . Last August it went from $26 to $87 in 10 trading days. I’d call that a rocket!!! And to think we are at $6 not converting the reverse split.
As Micheal Buffer says “Let’s get ready to rumble”
TomP and Ed H,
I’ll settle for the 1350 DOW drop (or better) that Phanuel mentioned awhile ago!
You all in?
Wayne C
It’s possible … Nothing is impossible with God 🙂
Phanuel,
Very true. I expect God to have a few good surprises in our future!
Phanuel,
Sorry for my slow understanding. Do you mean 7% drop (18493 X 7% = 1294) will possibly happen in one day?
Hi Jas
What I saw was a 7percent decline in one day (no dates shown) and a 1355 intraday decline ( no dates given)
Shalom
Ph and JM. I had several long and complicated story dreams last night. I’ll spare most of the details, but here’s the gist. They included three obscure proper names that begin with a ‘W’, and one obscure name with an ‘A’ (middle of the W). I know from experience that such obscure naming is not random, especially repeating a theme like that. I believe what I’m seeing is the red move as we’ve been discussing (still muted, but there). However, I now believe we will go into a ‘W’ pattern before we get back to the new highs. It might explain some of the strange behavior I see further out. I don’t know if the W is symmetric, but it seems it might be. So, it says to me we go down; recover (fast partial elevator ride with “Wachowicz”), but not to the new highs; then go down again (possibly slower and shallower, not a hangman), before we begin the climb to the top. In one dream I got to the top of the mountain at the end of the dream. That felt very much like the new highs, and I think it will take some time to get there.
I can speculate that the down move is an interest rate hike (or DB?), then the return move is Japan.
In one of my dreams I’m speaking to a girl that represents “short” to me. She has a business where I see a Japanese customer contingent looking at entering a tall building in Philadelphia for a meeting, but then they settle on coming to Warwick, NY (obscure W word) instead for the meeting. After this scene it’s just back to me and her walking and shopping. The “W” and “bullish” themes are suggested in that, as well as the contrast between going all the way to the top of a tall building versus an abbreviated ‘W’ move in the middle.
I had another dream where I’m looking at a title of a book written my co-author. The title is about Arabica (obscure A word) coffee. The publisher is very critical of the title, but then we all decide that actually the title is OK. I think the coauthor is JM and the ‘A’ confusion is about whether the “A” is immediate, or delayed (after the first drop, middle of the W). I think the dream implies it still exists, but not in the form originally thought. Coffee is oil, so it will be mapped into oil.
None of this negates the macros in my mind. Also, this is all kitchen work. I’m looking for confirmation. JR
JR
Good stuff JR,
In the Heuer patient list dream, we were also going to Warner Robins later in the afternoon. Stress the W in Warner. I’m also seeing about 60 days to higher highs. Very helpful JR!
Shalom!
Shalom
Hey Phanuel. I meant to ask you what does a “provider” mean? Like the hospital/clinic that provides the care to the patients? So you see the patient list as symbolising equities and the provider as being a binary “carer” who can be bullish or bearish (in this case Heuer: bearish)? In our conversation were we discussing whether it was going to bullish or bearish, or were we just talking generally about both. Just want to make sure I understand. Thanks.
Hi JR
An example
Dr. Heuer’s clinic list for Tuesday July 26 (morning)
1. Patient BAC
2. Patient DB
3. Patient AAPL
4. Patient VZ
5. Patient WA
6. Patient QR
7. Patient TT
etc etc etc
Then the next clinic was in Warner Robins (W) in the afternoon.
Heuer to W
In the another dream we were talking about something different. You weren’t in the first dream.
Shalom
Thanks for explaining that W pattern JR. I was just thinking the past few days about how they might drag things out a bit after the market drops and before taking it back up to new highs because that would be a better way of burning option expirations, just as they have been doing with the sideways movement over the past few weeks.
JM & Phanuel, I thought brexit was part of the W? Did that change now too?
The giant W pattern that started in July 2015 was completed prior to Brexit.
Frank,
James is right. We are refering to a small W for short term traders.
Shalom
Frank,
Just to clarify. The crash cycle began on June 24th (after giant W) with the first hangman. We are eagerly awaiting the second hangman. There will be a W pattern after the second hangman until the the Thanatos of the bull AKA third hangman. After the final hangman FAZ will begin to sky rocket .
Shalom
Shalom
That’s helpful Phanuel. Thanks for clarifying!
Phanuel,
Thank you. I find that the market is like one day goes up and one day drops like “W”. 🙂
You are welcome Jas!
this market is like a mine field!
Good Morning JAS,
My apologies to you, (and Phanuel). I wasn’t very clear in my response above when I added the, “(18493 X 7% = 1294)”….that was only inserted as an example as that was the current DOW number and it coincidentally was close to 1300. I did not intend to suggest that Phanuel gave those additional numbers.
Phanuel had posted awhile back the he had seen a 1 day 7% drop and also an intraday drop of 1300+, but he did not say when or if they were even the same day. Sorry for the confusion.
Blessings!
Good morning, TomP. No worry, I understand. God bless you!
Hi Tom P,
no apologies. I have thought about the same scenario many many times. That’s why I said yesterday nothing is impossible with God.
shalom
Hey Wayne,
Yuuuup…still all in!
Phanuel has a 7% 1 day drop (18493 X 7% = 1294) and an intraday 1300 point drop still to be fulfilled (if I remember correctly).
Waiting patiently (mostly).
Hi Ed h, Wayne C
I’m laughing now but I wasn’t at 2:30pm your time! Thankfully Mike K and Ivan pointed out the reverse split I’d forgotten (lots going on). I take it as a gracious reminder to always ask the Lord first, and maybe get back in esp. after James’s dream (I’m asking this time…).
PS Finally just watched The Big Short – great movie – it’s all happening again, slightly different but exponentially bigger. Boat people and nimble people will be rewarded, to bless others in the times ahead.
**2:30pm my time
Nick,
I saw your post this morning . I said to myself oh he forgot he must be really upset right now. Then I saw the responses form Mike and Ivan.
I’m wondering if anyone did not sell their options? What happened to them? I sold all my options on Thursday and moved to stocks.
Nick,
I feel for you. If that happened to me, I would have thought I blew it and missed the boat.
That was a great movie. It certainly exposed the greed and insanity of the subprime mortgage bubble. Amazingly, nothing has changed, other than inflating an even bigger bubble.
I’m ready to ride Phanuel’s waves. Let the good times roll!
Yes, Wayne C., the Red Sea is definitely red…I’ve seen it for myself and so has my broker…L-rd, help us all (smile).
Sephora,
We ARE counting on the Lord to help us all! (smile)
Glad I’m not dealing with chatting with a broker. I just do my trades on-line. My brokerage firm came to the conclusion months ago that I was donating my funds to the market! (smile)
Well, Wayne C., the L-rd loves a cheerful giver. But, I have to admit I’m tired of donating my funds to the banksters, since they love money and shouldn’t be encouraged this way. It’s not good for their souls (smile).
OK, Sephora. I agree with you. We shouldn’t feed the animals…I mean banksters.
I had a good laugh with the “cheerful giver”. Now that was truly funny!
Thanks
P.S. Perhaps we’ll be laughing our way to the bank soon. Oh, no! One way or the other, the banksters still wind up getting our (God’s) money. Is there something wrong with this system? Banksters always seem ready to get in our wallets.
Thank you Wayne C…it feels good to smile 🙂
Lynne NZ,
Yes, it most certainly does.
The Lord is smiling on us as we try to obediently follow His leading, working together and lifting each other up in love.
With all the things going on in the world today, we need to cherish every blessed moment of life and give thanks to the One and ONLY True God!
Wayne and Jeff, I sure do know the feeling of that pain. When I hear you guys bravely state what I felt inside, I knew I wasn’t alone. I guess the old saying is true ‘misery loves company’.
Looks like The Market, instead of delivering us the expected sharp downward July, is instead delivering us ‘well-done’ on The Barbie, with record DOW and a massacre on UVXY and FAZ. No bank runs in Europe, no rate hike, No terrorist slaughter large enough, no nothing- that can touch this demonic unreality of a Fake Market, that seems to get stronger by the session.
Nissan 17 is now a distant memory, and that completed top formed on the last upward leg of the ‘W’ just went ‘rocketship’ instead of down. And with DOW futures at this moment UP 33 Points, I just don’t know where so many of us got the timing wrong.
Now, all I got left is one smaller FAZ option call that covers all of August.
I was so certain of victory since April, and bravely marched it, to find it was a trap instead (in my case).
I think the Lord has taught me a lesson on this one, ‘don’t go short term and try to trade this one, go long, have trust in him, and do other things that need to be accomplished before the crash.
God bless you brother. My prayers are with you…I also hope we have the guts to admit we’re batting less than 100 and there is much to be learned besides saying “God changed His mind or gave us another month”. I’m getting a sense what the problem is here but very few are capable of excepting (hearing) the truth.
The one thing I have heard clearly personally and the one thing I think has been the most consistant prophetic message over the years is to own gold and silver. I have also burned through more money than I care to calculate buying equity put options and shorting Dow futures however my positions in gold and silver futures have more than compensated for those losses. The main risk to shorting the stock market has always been central banks creating vast sums of money to keep it afloat. Owning precious metals is a natural defence/hedge against this outcome. It looks highly likely to me that stock markets will crash in real terms against gold and silver but depending on the response from central banks they could simultaneously continue to rally in devalued currency terms.
One thing I think we can all acknowledge by now is that prophetic insight is often vague when it comes to timing. To me that just means we can run positions like long gold and long silver futures or short oil futures or short EUR and short CHF for long periods knowing they will turn green eventually. Even if it takes years we can sit on these trades because they are all positive carry to hold or at least very low cost to hold. FAZ and UVXY on the other hand are short term plays and don’t belong in the long term hold camp. If a prophetic window or expected date does not materials I would take the loss and establish them again when another prophetic window arrives rather than sitting and hoping.
Hope is not an investment strategy so when an expected outcome fails to materialise and a trade shifts from “confidence” to “hope” I have learned the hard way to take the loss and move on.
Short Dow futures, long precious metals, short EUR and short CHF is a balanced mix of positions that benefits from most of the prophetic guidance we have received but also costs very little to hold over the long term should things take longer than we expect.
hey JR, is this the 3 corleonne brothers : equities, oil and metals going down? I’ve got 17.50 puts on the slv for the 19th Aug. Think silver can get down to the 18’s?
Got my answer immediately by silver going up .30 and is now uo .05 on the day
Aaaaargh. Sold my depreciating/ decaying UVXY at $6 on Friday without asking first. They just opened at $30. Expensive lesson learned. It’s not the cash it’s the trust/ the listening. I’m thrilled for all who stuck it out. God bless you guys.
You did not lose out on anything. there was a reverse split. 1 stocks became 5 shares and the value moved from 6 to $30. No one made any profit except for a slight move up in the Vix.
hey nick, you didnt miss anything. that was a 5 to 1 increase in price cause they took 5 shares and made them 1. 5 shares at $6 equals 1 share at $30
Thanks Mike K and Ivan – I forgot about the reverse split!
The “missed opportunity” felt very real though and I’m taking it as a gracious pain free reminder that I need to take everything to the Lord. And maybe a second chance to jump back in on James’s dream. I’ll pray first this time.
BTW I saw the number 28 again in a dream a couple of days ago – this is the second time, first time it was with an up arrow which I thought corresponded to one of Phanuel’s S&P numbers. Could be Thursday this week? Might be something else, I’ll post anything further.
Hey Nick, anything further on 28 with the green arrow up?
Hi Mike,
My initial sense was that the two numbers I saw on 13 July (up 21, down 35) related to Phanuel’s S&P numbers. He saw a drop to 1988. If you add 21 to it then a fall of 35 you get to his next number 1975 – actually the maths works out at 1974 but there’s some leeway, I asked him.
It may be God is filling in the gaps between numbers to give us more precise trading (why wouldn’t he, to encourage us?) or it could be something else entirely. We’ll see.
Unlike getting words of knowledge in a ministry/ prayer setting where you can say “does this [seemingly random] word mean anything to you”, and it often does, leading to healing/ restoration/ deliverance/ encouragement etc., the fragments we are all receiving here seem to require more “body” input, which is why I listen closely to others here, and share when it seems appropriate – although it can all sound a bit bonkers as Jeff points out.
It’s only just occurred to me to ask for the next two moves from 1975 up then down to Phanuel’s next number 1948. I will do that.
BTW I saw 28 again in a dream earlier this week (a client telling me he’d just done a £28m deal). It doesn’t seem to have been about today, 28th.
Sorry for late reply.
Sorry for split post. Re seeing another 28 again this week:
In the dream my [real life] client’s name, who does the £28m deal, is Daniel. I just checked verses 28 in the book of Daniel.
Dan 2:28 reads: “But there is a God in heaven who reveals secrets and he has made known to King Nebuchadnezzar what will be in the latter days. Your dreams and the vision of your head upon your bed were these:”…and then he interprets the dream, about kingdoms rising and finally God’s own Kingdom.
I find this encouraging – here on Z3 news we’re having dreams and visions in the latter days and looking forward to the eternal Kingdom. May the King of Kings reveal to us secrets and clear interpretation of our dreams and visions.
Interesting you bring up the number: 1975. A couple weeks ago I saw 1975 but did not bring it up since we have essentially gone in the opposite direction. Today I saw the number 17150 (which is probably a DOW number)
Hey z3.
For all those invested hang on. I know it’s been said before and it’s been a long 4-5 months. Here’s the deal. The markets in 2000 rallied to all time highs and crashed. The markets in 2008 rallied to all time highs and crashed. The markets today are doing exactly the same as the last two crashes.
The markets are only going up on speculation. Central banks are buying billions of dollars of their own stock. That’s no rally , that’s a joke.
I know it’s tough seeing loses , I am too.
I’m not being niave here. It will happen.
We are all being tested . Can we take the heat? Can we stand the pain? Do we really believe all this is what we should be doing? How can we feel truly blessed , if we don’t know what it’s like to lose 60% of our account? Besides if you sell out now you already have lost all what you had .
How much longer will it go up? I don’t know but I’m using this as an opportunity to study and invest . 9 of the largest crashes have happened in October. Will history repeat itself ?
God bless you all
Thanks Ed h – God may have many of us in a tight position with our hands tide as a way of telling us not to play the market now and hold tight and He alone will make a way! I thought of selling twice at two different times when I was at break even and did feel in my spirit that I was not to sell. So now here we are, but God has no problem with what only He can do with where we are. He has every opportunity to bring gains back and create wealth for His purpose. With all that is happening behind the scenes right now, we are on the better side even though it looks ugly. Things are not what they appear and God is protecting us as well as educating us on how He will part our Red Sea if we trust him and not give up…..
Hey Ed h,
I agree with you. It is coming. They stretched the markets to the highest part of the bearish wedge and then kept it there to make people believe the bear market is now dead, and we can all anticipate nothing but continuous ATHs, rainbows, and unicorns. They’ve given people a false sense of security with absolutely no decline after this last plateau, making this the trickiest, evil setup I’ve ever seen. I believe the bear is not dead, and this is still a head-fake and bull trap that will get spring very soon now, but its testing my patience to the extreme. Its imminent. I’m holding on, but like many here, have watched my batch of puts decline (not added, not liquidated). I’m still looking for a wicked snap back, like Brexit, but x 2 to 3…. Been down in NOLA and have chosen to not focus on the markets until we get our drop. Best……
The Yang to the Yen of the markets going much higher than believed, as the drop falling to much lower levels. Although I still see 1950 to 2000 as a good range, if it falls quick, we may still have a chance of 1772-1820 on this drop due to the extent of the manipulation taking it higher, with the stealth bear still in operation behind the scenes.
Thanks, John Smith, as always, for the technical analysis. My pragmatic side has kicked in (and is overriding almost everything else), so I’m leaning heavily towards technical analysis. Yes, now I understand why I had a dream about Ben (Bernanke, that is) about 3 months ago (this very week), and why he always has that gloating look in his eyes. He should really cut it out with the manipulation, and that might make me feel a little more inspired to intercede for his lost soul (smile). I think he’d like that joke. He’s always laughing, too – my gracious – about his rigged market, I suppose. I remarked to myself at the time, jokingly, that the L-rd has saved worse people, but now I’m not so sure (smile).
Yes, these days I have to be pragmatic, with a good sense of humor, because I am HEAVILY in the red.
And, how do you know the banksters don’t even care anymore, who knows what they’re doing?
I’m reading the technical analysis on MarketWatch (not exactly a tireless defender of free markets – smile) and come across the following quote:
• “What’s evident is that a(n) entity with unlimited resources is buying on every dip (and also spiking the S&P futures around 2:30 a.m. ET each trading day).”
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-smart-trading-clues-reveal-stocks-next-move-2016-07-25?link=MW_latest_news
Hi Sephora!
blessings sister
shalom!
Hi Moshe…I mean, Phanuel (smile). I’m just wading my way through the Red Sea (learning to swim), since it didn’t open up like I thought it would. I pray the L-rd will send the Coast Guard soon. Until then, I’ll just keep paddling for the shoreline in the distance. But, I’m sure going to ask the L-rd when I meet Him, why my brethren got the good treatment (walking through on dry ground) and I’m having to swim, in this ice cold water (smile).
Sorry Sephora it will be well soon. Please don’t abandon the sea if futures happen to surge tonight and the stock market is through the roof tomorrow (not saying it will happen but watching closely). It might be a blow off Top. Shalom Mishpocha
Baruch Haba B’Shem Adonai 🙂
P.s You can make up for your losses by selling FAZ at the next bottom (keep 46.56 in remembrance). Then riding the wave up with SVXY. My current understanding is the bull dies after S&P 2288 and above. I believe FAZ will drop below 23.31. You can purchase more shares for a cheaper price before the sudden drop.
Phanuel – Just finished translating your Hebrew. Shalom to you this afternoon.
Shalom Brother TAJ!
Phanuel,
You mentioned riding waves. Are you expecting rough seas ahead, Brother?
I’m excited about the next bottom!
Hi Wayne C
I’m expecting favorable waves!! Once we get in on the correct direction …our red turns into green…..
Shalom brother
Phanuel,
We appreciate your efforts to “read” the waves.
Red to green…music to my ears! (That’s not the band playing on the deck of the Titanic, I hope.)
Shalom
No manipulation or rigging. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Wayne…..Heehee…right on time,
The 3pm VIX slam to go from early high of the day $32.43 down to $30.20 at close! Get all those early day buyers in on the run and then slam them at the end of the day. The pattern is the same….wash, rinse, repeat. Tough to watch this even sitting on the sidelines…..
TomP,
There is nothing left of the true free markets. TPTB just boldly go about their plan. Just more smoke, more mirrors! lol
My additional funds are sitting on the sideline. They have been playing this tune for awhile and I refuse to dance to their “shakedown” music! I’ll wait for the next song…
I don’t know if anyone is into remote viewing but here’s a guy who is one of the best remote viewers, he’s giving us a hint for the month of August. Could it be something that would cause stock market to drop temporarily? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/20/duff-on-rense-nuclear-threat-on-america-the-hard-proof/25/
I wanted to post a dream that I have been told my very spiritually awakened family member of mine as I have been struggling through taking amazing amount of loss due to personally reasons where I had to liquidate my holdings on the uvxy and faz.
She saw me very angered face or perhaps intoxicated, wearing rugged jacket and bare feet.
I was on my bare feet and heading towards somewhere and I held a sword with me. When she saw me, she stopped me and took away my sword.
But she told me in her dream the sword I had was not a real sword but rather a toy sword.
Her interpretation for me was that bare feet meant I am doing everything I can in my life to fight but that the toy sword meant it was meaningless..
I’ve been torn due to the loss but I’m grateful that I am able to humble myself and trying to refocus… I felt that God did not really want me to be in the stock market..
The toy sword really hit me hard when I heard about it yesterday. I have been seeking wisdom and protection from all might Lord.
I don’t know if this is any other interpretation. I did not think it was related to my business but rather to do with all the time and stress I have spent in this stock market as I have been very low spirited due to large losses that I have been taking.
I know that FOMC is ahead and company ERs ahead. I’m thinking if it meant the uvxy and faz holdings (those are only holdings I still have in my business acct) but I’m afraid it is meant that my positioning at this time are like toy swords against this rigged market and financial Mafia setups.
Only way I see these will skyrocket is if there was a rate hike or extremely poor earning reports.
I personally believe that we need a major catalyst and I believe and hope that coming week is the final turn around as even the technicals, it is at the sell zone for the S&P.
I wonder if the dream that my family member received was an answer how I had to be prepared… But it is certainly a dream that what I had was meaningless. I am unsure if it was my stock positioning or the way I have been spiritually very low due to these financial losses thar I have been taking so far.
I didn’t want to post any negative post on the z3 but I am thinking that some may go through the similar experience as myself and suffering due to this. Another interpretation I have is perhaps I must be equipped with words of God as the real sword for this difficult times I am experiencing in my life.
I personally never had a stock dream and I had taken positions according to my belief that the dreams had been the signals however it appears that these dreams should be interpreted with macro terms rather than imminent actions we take towards the positioning. The time frame has not also been really shared either so I believe my understanding was completing wrong unfortunately.
I am still thankful for this learning to wonderful and Almighty God. With my humanly understanding about why this challenge came to me or to many of us at z3 I do not know but one thing I know is that we must be grateful for everything in all circumstances and let our alright Lord reveal his as it was done in the heavenly Kingdom. I hope and pray that all of us who have been faithful to Jesus will be comforted and blessed.
Lastly I wanted to share some verses..
Matthew 7:11
“if ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?”
Proverb 3:5
“trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding”
I pray that everyone here will not interpret that not at all times God will give financial blessings and I feel that I should share that we must be always grateful and faithful to Lord our Jesus as we do not know about tomorrow.
Proverbs 27:1
“Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.”
God bless you all.
Wow Danny, what a remarkable/thoughtful post. The Lord may have been providing you ‘coaching’ but your response to it is very Christ like. I believe your message is very timely for all of us. I think many of us have been carrying around stress (within us) due to the varied ‘underwater’ positions many of us have. Irregardless of the financial outcome for us, any monetary gain/loss we may receive will mean little without our Lord. Thank you for this wonderful post, and I sincerely hope and pray that your particular situation is resolved in a positive manner.
Danny, a little over a month ago I lost my job and I prayed very hard for another good job, and our Lord granted me this request (I begin on Monday). Several others on this site prayed for me as well. Please don’t hesitate to enlist the other members of this site to pray for you as they are very powerful intercessors to Christ. There are many members (such as yourself) who have our Lord’s ear and he listens to them.
God Bless You and I am proud of you,
Timothy
Thank you Timothy for your kind word and encouragement. I will pray for you as well and for z3 members that in the end, God’s name will be glorified and that everyone will stay faithful to our lord Jesus.
I have company name that means ‘God’s Rock’ in hebrew and although my personal account has taken a big loss, I am fortunately still able to same ‘uvxy/tvix/faz’ positions in this account where I have a strong conviction that the multiplication in this account will be something that I can testify in the z3 group in the near future, for glory of almighty lord.
I plan to use the earned funds for God’s kingdom and I am faithful that the scenario of such will be provided by almighty lord.
God bless you all and please pray for me so that I will not again be troubled and that God’s name will be glorified within these financial storm that all anticipate to see in the market.
Ephesians 6:17
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Hebrews 4:12
12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Danny, I logged back in to check the futures market tonight and saw your post. My gracious, it’s so thoughtfully worded that I had to chime in. I believe the L-rd desires us to be honest with him. When I’m hurting, I tell the L-rd that I’m hurting. I don’t try to keep up a pretense. Being real is the essence of a personal relationship. I’m allergic to religious pretense, due to overexposure (smile – a good sense of humor goes a long way in life).
I, too, am having to develop a proper exit plan, based on a balance between the pragmatic and the prophetic. You are not alone. I spent serious time with the L-rd this weekend, just developing that plan; and by this morning, I was so renewed. There is nothing in this world, that can compare with sharing G-d’s heart. There are no words.
Thanks for being so tactfully honest. That takes skill (smile). Please know that you weren’t being negative – you were just being real. I, personally, appreciate your honesty. I pray the L-rd will give you an exit plan. I THINK I HAVE ONE – OH JOY. I spent most of this weekend with the L-rd and have a sense that I understand what’s going on…why it happened…why it hasn’t been an easy road – downright miserable, frankly…and what to look for, to safely exit this market, which I am HEAVILY SHORT (oh my goodness – thank the L-rd for his grace)…
I pray the L-rd bless you and keep you…make His face to shine upon you and be gracious unto you. May the L-rd turn His face toward you and give you His peace.
I think what you said is true and always true :” I must be equipped with words of God as the real sword for this difficult times I am experiencing in my life. ” Pray for God’s wisdom to invest the money in the market and to manage your finance. And put your hope and future in God instead of money from the stock.
It’s rare for me to have market dreams but I had one yesterday that I thought I’d share. It was very short and in the dream, someone walked up to me and said, “Did you hear the DOW dropped by 2300 points today?” What’s interesting is the ‘2300’ was faint and at one point after I woke up, I even thought it was a range of 2000 – 3000 points. So I’m inclined to believe the range more so now than the exact number of 2300 though I wouldn’t be surprised by it either. The main takeaway is a drop of that magnitude will happen in one day if my interpretation is correct. I didn’t get a date for it or a corresponding action to take so its just something I’ll keep in my back pocket and maybe somebody can else can add to it if the Lord gave somebody else in similar message. Stay blessed everybody.
Hi Jemba! I don’t have market dreams either but last year i think @ November I did and it was very similar to yours! While dreaming I heard someone say ‘ the stock market fell 2000 points in one day!’ That’s all I remember. I even posted it on this site. I just listened to Bo Polny and interestingly enough he is saying he thinks there will be the biggest one day drop in the market to date probably in the next month or two so August / September time frame .. Blessings, Corrine
Corrine, thanks for sharing. David just shared a similar dream as well so I believe the word has been confirmed by ‘two’ witnesses. I’m a a lot more comfortable in my dream and its interpretation now. And I also love it wasn’t one of these complicated dreams with numerous symbols and caricatures. Stay blessed and rest in His peace.
Awesome!
Jemba,
Thanks for sharing, I hope it happens this week:)
Take care
Tell me about it! I wish it was like yesterday. But God’s timing is always best. I’ve learnt painfully that God’s blessing are very dependent on His timing and any blessing outside of His timing equals a curse of sorts. I know we will be glad we waited for Isaac instead of settling for Ishmael. Stay blessed and rest in His peace.
A couple of months ago, I had a dream where my oldest sister told me, “the stock market crashed, it dropped 2,000 points today.” I remember thinking, wow, that is a big drop for one day.
Sounds like a confirmation. Corrine also had a very similar dream where someone told her of a 2000 point stock market drop.
Hi Phanuel,
You have blessed me once again! WTI has fallen all the way from $51 and just hit your first target of $43.18 before bouncing. I took profit at your level and now I’m trying to decide when to get back in before going short again down to 42.85. The amazing thing about being short oil is the contango is so steep you get paid $10-20% in carry (futures are always higher price than spot, so even if the spot price does not move you make the difference). Please let me know if you get any more insight into the WTI oil market or if you see any more numbers!
Oil
43.18
42.85
42.44
40.12
39.18
36.6
28.88
Bless you brother!
wow Julz
very happy for you. Remember, the Lord is the one who blesses us. I believe JR and JM have a lot more insight in oil. I will keep you updated. You brought me great news and joy today :-). The rest of Z3 shall also be blessed. It actually bounced exactly at 43.18????
Shalom brother!
I am always grateful to God, I also feel it’s right to honour His prophets 🙂
Yes for about an hour it kept crossing through the 43.18 number with lows around 43.1 area. Just enough for me to notice and have time to execute my buy (cover short). It then bounced over 1% to 43.6 where is closed!
Wow Julz
Our God is truly awesome and omniscient. Glory to God!!
One of the reasons for trading your WTI numbers in particular for me is that it didn’t matter when the fulfilment came because you get paid handsomely for waiting (with options, FAZ and UVXY you always have time and decay working against you). For me it also didn’t matter the path towards getting there because short WTI was a good hedge against my long precious metals positions. Oil is the largest component in their production costs and if oil was to take off and go to $100 (before getting to these numbers) you would also very likely see inflation expectations taking off which would also push precious metals prices higher. Similarly if geopolitical risk spiked and large scale conflict broke out sending WTI sky high you would again see precious metals taking off.
When I have permission in the spirit to invest I’m always looking for confluences between balancing the prophetic, balancing the risks in my portfolio and balancing my understanding of what is driving these markets.
WTI correlation suggests retrenchment to 1948/1988 range.
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