Update on the UVXY Blast Off

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In a previous post, I shared a vision, which I received on July 5 2016, in which I saw the price of UVXY move down a little, then sideways, then the line formed into the shape of a rocket, then it went straight up before veering off to the right. I was not shown any numbers or dates. UVXY is an inverse ETF, which means it moves in the opposite direction as the stock market.

According to Jim Reeve, author of The Handbook of Prophetic Trading, movements to the right represent downward movement because calls are always on the left and puts are always on the right. So when the UVXY rocket veered off to the right, I believe that indicated the price would level off and turn down again.

After seeing the price graph in the vision, I started watching for the sideways pattern to show up. At first, it looked like it was forming in July, but then the price kept dropping. The graph shown below shows UVXY actual price history for the past eleven weeks starting July 13 2016, based on a 2-hour price chart.

UVXY

This graph shows the completed path of the rocket as it moved down, then leveled off on August 9 and continued moving sideways for 19 trading days until September 2. Then the price dipped a little to $16.75 on September 8, then moved up sharply, reaching $25.69 three trading days later on September 13, which was a 53% increase. I was expecting to see it go higher than that, but based on a new graph, which I saw on September 15 2016, I believe that was the fulfillment of what I saw.

Since I did not see any numbers, I did not know how high it would go, but since I saw it veering off to the right, I expected it would be limited. When God does not reveal any numbers, it is tempting to add our own assumptions, but that is dangerous because we are often wrong.

New Graph Shows Next Move

The new graph I saw on September 15 showed the price of UVXY with the left side already completed, but on the right side the line was moving, like watching it in real time. I recognized the left side because it showed what happened over the previous week with the price spiking up to $25.69 then dropping back down sharply, just like it actually did over the previous two days, September 13 and 14. Normally, God does not show me any historical prices in graphs, but I believe the left half was historical because it was already completed and stagnant while the right half was “alive” and moving.

On the right half, the line spiked up steeply reaching close to $25 again before dropping steeply again, but this time it did not stop dropping. It went almost straight down and continued into a free fall, all the way down to zero. Then an alarming message popped up saying something about my account balance being depleted, but it was too long to read it all.

I know it is impossible for it to actually go down to zero, but I think the point is it will go so low it might as well be zero because the losses will be unbearable for anyone who continues holding it.

After seeing this new graph, I was expecting to see the price move back up to $25.00 the next day. I was watching for it and planning to switch sides when it got there, but it only went up to about $24.40 before dropping back down steeply. From there it kept dropping, which was very frustrating to see. I finally closed my position at about $22.50 due to my concerns it was going on down to zero. I am glad I got out when I did because it dropped to almost $16.00.

In the past, whenever God has given me a specific number it has happened exactly as He said. In other words, He does not tell me $25.00 when it really only reaches $24.40. He delivers exactly what He said and even a little extra. So when the price failed to return to $25.00 on September 16, I did not understand why it fell short, but I assumed that was it and decided to just move on. However, I have come back to this because I believe God is consistent in His dealings with us and the fulfillment is still yet to come. I was wrong to assume it had to happen the next day because I was not shown any dates. However, I was also not shown any numbers. I only saw the line on the graph, so I had to estimate how high it went by comparing it to the historical graph.

For the price to move back up to $25.00, the S&P would have to drop back down to the support level of 2120, which is where it was on September 13 and 14, and perhaps a little lower due to the price decay of UVXY. So that is what I am expecting to see happening soon.

Since I saw the price drop sharply after reaching $25.00, I am expecting the S&P to reverse sharply after dropping back below support levels. I have received some confirmations from others on this view. I was amazed when I saw the projection shown below from cycles analyst Peter Temple, founder of the World Cycles Institute, because it confirmed what I am expecting to see.

2016_projection

There are also some prophetic confirmations showing the equities market dropping below the support level (S&P 2120) before reversing and moving higher.

Big Bull Coming Soon

Since I saw a hard reversal after UVXY reached $25.00, I am expecting the S&P to reverse sharply at that point. Since I saw UVXY drop all the way to zero, I am expecting to see a very strong bull market starting at that time.

Back in March 2016, I saw a graph showing a blow-off top pattern, which I shared in a previous post. I have been watching for it all year, but it has not happened yet. A few weeks ago, I saw it again in another graph showing the same pattern with a steep move up followed by a straight drop down. However, this time I saw the market was significantly higher than the previous all-time high, which was 2193 on August 15 2016. I believe the coming bull market will lead to the blow-off top, which kicks off the third hanging man. Based on other graphs I have shared previously, I am expecting the third hanging man to be a big drop because after the blow-off top, I saw the Dow drop to about 15,200. I was not shown any dates.

Conclusions:

I believe God purposely gives us partial information because He is inviting us to seek Him for more details. He is more interested in drawing us closer to Him than how much money we make, although He wants us to prosper in all things (3 John 1:2).

Acting on partial information can be costly, as I have learned the hard way. Hopefully, we learn to seek God and wait for His instructions the next time.

If what I saw is right, the second hanging man is much smaller than many of us have been expecting, perhaps too small to even call it a hanging man. I am expecting a much bigger drop after the bull rally and blow-off top.

Although the profit opportunities for UVXY moving up to only $25.00 are limited, the steep drop back down offers more profits for anyone who changes positions at that time to ETF’s that move with the market, like FAS and SVXY. They should do well as the market moves up.

Anyone using a buy and hold strategy for UVXY should find a different vehicle to avoid getting the pop-up message I saw. Even without a bull market, UVXY decays about 15% per month, but in a bull market it could get wiped out fast.

My plan is to sell UVXY when the price reaches $25.00 and get in on the other side with SVXY and put options for UVXY. Those vehicles offer a way to profit during the bull market, which then makes it possible to purchase more shares of UVXY after the price drops way down.

As always, this information is being shared for prayerful consideration and is not a recommendation for investing.

James Bailey

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Wayne C.
Wayne C.
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September 30, 2016 11:22 AM

Z3,

From reading comments, it sounds more and more like the 2nd Hangman is a small correction and the 3rd Hangman is a mildly bigger drop. It seems like they are watered down from previous revelations.

Apparently, there really are no true “rocket ships”, just a few sparklers and bottle rockets with little punch predicted in the next few months.

None of this sounds like a “wealth transfer” to me. Sure, you can make a few bucks. I would suspect for the vast majority of Z3 investors not using options, these Hangmen have been overhyped, considering the latest Z3 understanding. The Hangmen have gone from explosive to fizzle. Expectations have been significantly lowered.

If this is the Lord’s plan, I would rather have just invested in the Kingdom months ago and skipped making a large “donation” to Wall Street.

Next week marks 6 months since the “rush” to get in the market back in early April to avoid missing the boat. Outside of Brexit (which the majority of folks on Z3 incorrectly called), there has been no major, sudden drop in the markets.

This has been a great exercise in faith-building, patience, and endurance. That has been a blessing.

With all that said, either some are incorrect in their interpretation of the dreams/visions or God is not, in the near term, transferring great wealth to very many Z3 Josephs, in my opinion.

I’m sure some will disagree with me. I challenge you to step back and review the record of the last 6 months. Lots of prophetic words, not a lot of accuracy, especially in timing and direction.

Either we are Josephs or not. I’m seeking the Lord to clearly show me yea or nay. I’m trusting God and will readily accept His truth.

Blessings

Mark
Mark
Member
September 30, 2016 6:38 PM
I feel your pain Wayne. I’ve been holding FAZ since July 2015 with the first post about it I read on Z3. I’ve lost a fortune on UVXY and TVIX (93%). I too thought I was a “Joseph” to help my family and friends who weren’t believing the Blood moons/Shemitah/financial collapse prophecies that were coming out. I sold my house and moved away from the coast. I used a lot of my proceeds to invest in FAZ but lost my shirt. BUT, I have learned a lot about my motives and whether I truly was committing it all to the Lord for loss or gain. At this point, I would be extremely happy to just recover my losses. I trust if the Lord still has a plan to prosper me, perhaps He has another way of doing that. I would warn all others not to take all words posted here as truth. I was naive. But what others say is true and a hard learned lesson: that we must hear from God and not listen to any man. Whether about calamity, finances or other, we need to seek His face. A costly lesson for me, but with all that’s happening in the world, it’s all going down and soon. So better to learn to hear His voice now and take some earthly losses for someone as hard of hearing as I was, than to not hear Him in the very hard times ahead. So blessed be the name of the Lord, who gives and takes away. I still believe He can direct me with the investment I have left, to make the right moves and recover or even exceed my investments. But again, a caution to not make moves just because others seem so convinced. There are too many variables… Read more »
Wayne C.
Wayne C.
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September 30, 2016 7:19 PM

Mark,

I can certainly empathize with you. I applaud your faith and tenacity. I would like to remind you that we need to come to Jesus as innocent, accepting children:

Mark 10:14 New International Version (NIV)

14 When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.”

Most of us have learned a lot about ourselves and our relationship with the Lord. One benefit of my “investment” has been to rely on God more and realize I’m not in control nor do I wish to be. It is so much easier to surrender to Him than to be deceived into believing I am in control. I pray for direction and guidance. I pray the the Good Shepherd will reward all those that have placed their trust in Him.

Bless you, My Brother!

Mark
Mark
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September 30, 2016 10:36 PM

I wholeheartedly agree and accept that Wayne. Whatever we hold back from the Lord needs to be dealt with until we accept unconditional surrender. I’m still learning but the great desire is there.

Chris A.
Member
September 30, 2016 12:38 PM
Hard to hang a man when all he is doing is jumping off a footstool.When I have more time I will post more on my thoughts this weekend. All I can say for now is that today is the last trading day in the year 5776 so I think there is a yuuuge [Deutsche Bank] event coming timed with the feast days of the Lord. Wayne I feel your pain. This has been excruciatingly agonizing to put up with these many months,and the only thing I can even compare it to is what Joseph must have felt like when he was a prisoner sitting in the pit. The only thing that keeps me in the game is the John Denver crash vision I was given back in August. For those not familiar with that Its in another post on this site. His plane crashed on 10/12/1997. I may be all wet ,but 10/12 is Yom Kippur ,and the more I think about it the 1997 just may be the closing price on the S&P 500 exchange on that date. I think what James has seen is what happens during the blow off top after this event has transpired.This will be when UVXY is systematically ,and mercilessly crushed in order to drive the market to its all time high just before this bull is finally shot ,and slaughtered.The run back up to all time highs will be fueled with more bail out money thrown at the market by mother Yellen [JM’s ” Whole Foods moment”] at the FED ,and all the other central banks. I also think this will be the set up excuse all the central banks will use to go negative on interest rates including the FED. When this happens the equity markets will go wild ,because it will… Read more »
Wayne C.
Wayne C.
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September 30, 2016 12:49 PM

Chris A.,

Great observations and comments!

Thanks

Javita
Javita
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September 30, 2016 12:52 PM

Chris, I want to be sure I catch your further post this weekend. How long do you think the blow-off top will take to reach its peak? What month are we looking at?

Chris A.
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September 30, 2016 1:22 PM

Javita, Personally I am just following the Lords appointed feast days, because I think his signature is going to be all over this event. 10/03 is the start of the new year Rosh Hashana [actually the evening of the 2nd]. 10/12 is Yom Kippur the Day of Atonement , and between the two feasts is what are called the Days of Awe,and finally you have the Feast of Tabernacles that starts on 10/17. If I were to make a prediction it would be this whole thing is in the toilet by the end of October ,and certainly no later than mid November. Just due to the fact that there is just way to much overwhelming evidence in the prophetic as well as political ,financial ,military,and economic realm that are coming to the forefront. All I can say is GOD help us all in the days ahead ,because in my spirit things are about to get incredibly difficult for all of us with or without any kind of financial blessing.

Gary
Gary
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September 30, 2016 9:14 PM
Chris, thank you so much for your insight. I am definitely on the same page as you as to the significance of the upcoming Jewish Feasts with the events all around us – including, but not limited to, economic matters. During my recent study of and preparation for the upcoming Fall Feasts, I came across an interesting tradition of praying and seeking the Lord with a focus on the 10 Commandments on each of the 10 days from Rosh Hashanah (Trumpets) on October 3rd to Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) on October 12th – starting with the 10th Commandment on the Feast of Trumpets and ending with the 1st Commandment on the Day of Atonement. If anyone is interested in digging deeper, I have included an excerpt with more details below: “And . . . [Yahuwah] spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. Ye shall do no servile work therein . . . .” Leviticus 23:23-25 No common work is to be performed on Feast of Trumpets, but it is a day of soul searching, seeking if there is any area of the heart, mind and life that is not in agreement with the standard of the holy law. Day of Atonement comes ten days after Feast of Trumpets. The days from Feast of Trumpets to Day of Atonement are days of continued soul-searching, preparing for the huge blessing awaiting those who by faith experience cleansing from sin on the Day of Atonement.  All the Israelite nation was to unite; all believers today are to unite in repentance, confession and the restoration of every wrong.  Thus, these feasts should not be thought of… Read more »
Lynne NZ
Lynne NZ
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October 3, 2016 10:27 AM

Hi Gary, thanks for this, I will pick it up tho I am a day behind so will have to do catch up! Thanks for the effort you put in.

Ed h
Ed h
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October 3, 2016 9:31 AM

Gary,
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. I’m in as well on this.
God bless you brother

Debbie
Debbie
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October 1, 2016 11:20 AM

Thank you so much for this. I was asking God this morning to help me understand His feasts and how to draw closer to Him. He told me if you love me you will obey my commandments. I plan on following this.

Gary
Gary
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October 2, 2016 1:56 PM

Hi Debbie! I am glad you found this helpful and am excited to see what the Lord has in store for us as we spend time focussing on each of the Ten Commandments during these important Fall Feasts over the next 10 days.

If you are interested in learning more about the Jewish Feasts, I have been blessed by teachings from Perry Stone, Mark Biltz, Michael Rood, Jim Staley and Scott Velain to name just a few. Many of their videos can be found on YouTube.

Shanah Tovah!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
October 11, 2016 4:05 PM

Yes Gary
They are the Lord’s feast days and we will continue to celebrate the feast of tabernacles (sukkot) through the millennium reign (Zechariah 14:16). Yom Kippur is the most holy day of the year. The events of revelation 8:1-4 and 15:4-8, are very similar to a Yom Kippur service. Let us join in a holy fast from sundown to sundown.

Shalom
Shanah Tovah
Baruch Bshem Adonai

TomP
TomP
Member
October 11, 2016 4:38 PM

Hey Phanuel,

Should fasting have started yesterday, (10/10) at sunset and the breaking of the fast is today (10/11) after sunset? When I had looked up the feast days, this is the way I understood t after reading that the evening prior to the actual day is when Yom Kippur begins!?

Thanks for any assist in helping me understand this.

Blessings!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
October 11, 2016 4:45 PM

Hi TomP
The evening is the beginning of the day according to Genesis. So Yom Kippur is from 6-7 pm today to 6-7pm tomorrow

Francy
Francy
Member
October 11, 2016 4:26 PM

Hi Phanuel!
The Holy Spirit prompted me to celebrate the Lord’s feasts… I have a question…Yom Kippur begins tonight until tomorrow night is that what you mean by sundown to sundown?

Sonia
Sonia
Member
October 11, 2016 7:52 PM

Hello Francy, I will be celebrating Yom Kippur as well !
Many blessings to you and to your family !
Shalom!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
October 11, 2016 4:42 PM

yes Francy
Recall in Genesis ….the evening and the morning ..
sundown today to sundown tomorrow.

Shalom

Wayne C.
Wayne C.
Member
September 30, 2016 9:33 PM

Gary,

Thanks for sharing your study. Great idea and template.

I’m In. I’ll print your post out to focus on each Commandment on the appropriate day.

Blessings!

TomP
TomP
Member
October 11, 2016 9:46 AM

Gary,

I wanted to share with you that I have been following this template. It’s difficult to put in words, but I’ve experienced an amazing increase of, “deepness” in my relationship with God.

Thanks for sharing this!

Chris A.
Member
September 30, 2016 9:26 PM

Gary, you can most assuredly count me in on this.I have never thought about it this way thanks.

Gary
Gary
Member
September 30, 2016 10:11 PM

Chris & Wayne, thank you for your prompt response and for joining in on this. I don’t think we can go wrong when we empty our hearts out to the Lord and seek His forgiveness – particularly as we see so many things in our world unravelling so quickly.

This template provides an interesting perspective and allows us to spend dedicated time throughout each day searching our hearts in very specific areas. I am attending our weekly Men’s Ministry tomorrow morning (with around 60-80 men) and hope to present this idea to several of them to see if they would like to join in as well.

With respect to the Fall Feasts, it is Mark Biltz’s belief that The Feast of Trumpets relates to Repentence (and is a dress rehearsal for the Rapture), The Feast of Atonement relates to Redemption (and is a dress rehearsal for Christ’s Return) and The Feast of Tabernacles relates to Rejoicing (and is a dress rehearsal for the beginning of the Millenial Reign). Mr. Biltz states that these events don’t all have to happen in the same year however it is his belief that these exciting events (for true believers) will occur precisely on these ‘Appointed Times’.

Wayne C.
Wayne C.
Member
September 30, 2016 1:32 PM

Brother,

I’m in agreement with you, Chris.

The Jewish Feasts are God’s timing, not man’s.

All my trust is in Him, the Great I AM.

Ed h
Ed h
Member
September 30, 2016 6:30 PM

Chris A,
Very well said and so true. Have any of you thought of Murrays post about FAZ at $10,000. That would be fantastic but do you have any idea what the world would like the next morning? God have mercy on all of us.

Wayne C.
Wayne C.
Member
September 30, 2016 6:58 PM

Ed H,

We need His mercy and grace like never before as the system implodes. His light shines brighter as the days get darker.

God bless us all as we seek to do His will and serve as good stewards for the coming soul harvest.

Blessings, Brother

Chris A.
Member
September 30, 2016 8:41 PM

Ed, I think it will be a scene of utter chaos,and even if we take Murrays daughters statements as truth we have some real problems to navigate around. Such as how will we be able to access cash? How do we transfer funds from one failing bank or brokerage to another failing bank or brokerage etc.? The Nazi know your customer requirements are something else to consider. After all just one share of FAZ at those kind of prices just made you a criminal in the eyes of the law…We have to remember that Faz is a weather guage of the financial climate ,and prices at those levels means we are in a category 10 financial hurricane where nothing much will be left standing.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Member
September 30, 2016 9:36 PM

Hi Chris. If Murray’s daughter is correct, then we would sell FAZ at $10,000 in November, and not wait later when it reaches $100,000. The instruction is to give 10% tithe, and give 10% commission to James Bailey. We pay capital gains tax for sure. Flags may be raised and you might be questioned, so pay the tax quickly. We are using PUBLIC knowledge from Murray’s comment of August, 29, 2016, under the article at https://z3news.com/w/60-day-window-national-heart-attack/
Then we are to buy a farm (in a safe area, of course), and silver. So if this works out as instructed, then there will be time in November, and maybe December, to do all these transfers and purchases. I guess this market event, post Oct. 27, is the second hangman… a market crash and not a collapse. If this happens, then the collapse happens in April 2017, as Murray’s daughter said, which I guess is the third hangman. Pray, pray, and pray!

Chris A.
Member
September 30, 2016 10:18 PM

Thanks Marcio.

Chris A.
Member
September 30, 2016 1:38 PM

Javita, Same as it ever was .Watch the video of Dick Fuld, and you can just sense the evil emanating from this man.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/deutsche-bank-ceo-writes-memo-employees-blames-speculators-confirms-liquidity-flight

Chris A.
Member
September 30, 2016 12:51 PM

One final thought. When a man is hung it is a sudden, and violent event that breaks the neck of the condemned. So this second hang man has to be almost fatal ,but not quite.

Cam
Cam
Member
September 30, 2016 12:33 PM

As you all know there as been a lot of asteroid talk over the last week or so. I was actually a little concerned not just from Esther’s word but from many other sources where people were talking about an asteroid during that same time period. I began seeking the Lord, and shortly after, Faith had posted a word from Patricia Green who I think is very credible and hears correctly from the Lord. Patricia went on to say at the end of her video that there would be no asteroid during this time and that judgement had been delayed. I seriously felt relieved. She also stated during that video that ‘very soon there will be a transfer of wealth’ to the remnant. I was also encouraged by hearing her say that. I have never heard her say anything about a wealth transfer so I thought that was very interesting. I just wanted to point that out…the video is great….She covers 7 different areas of how we can be contributing to the kingdom. I want to seek the Lord more to find out what my anointing might be and make sure I’m using my spiritual gift (s) the Lord has given me. Here is the link again if anyone wants to listen to it – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E32x_JDbP0

Ed h
Ed h
Member
September 30, 2016 6:25 PM

Wayne,
I know it’s been said over and over but hang in there brother. Since hitting all time highs, not one of the markets has gone higher. This week and last are just a warm up for shock and awe.
I agree with Chris A. about the feast days and the days of awe.

I listened to Bix Wier interview and he mentioned the good guys want the market to fall at end of Sept and the bad guys want it to fall at end of Oct. not sure why but that’s what he said

If there is a reward for perseverance and long suffering you’ve got one coming to you.

Wayne C.
Wayne C.
Member
September 30, 2016 7:39 PM

Ed H,

Thank you for your sincere, kind words of encouragement. Joseph was long-suffering, along with many others believers down through the ages. I defer to my good and faithful Brothers and Sisters, such as Mark above, that have persevered on this bumpy faith journey.

They have been hanging in the fight for much longer than me. I hope and pray many will see the day when their faithfulness, patience, and earnest, unselfish desire to serve as modern-day Josephs comes to pass. We have been humbled on our journey and have been tested time and again.

God alone deserves all the glory, honor, praise, and thanksgiving…whatever the investment outcome. I’m blessed to have the opportunity to attempt to increase the Master’s talent. I still yearn to hear Him say “Well done, My good and faithful servant!”

Be Blessed, Dear Friend

Ed h
Ed h
Member
September 30, 2016 8:32 PM

Wayne,
I truly mean it. You and all the others who have been sitting and waiting. You are the good and faithful servants. Marks post hurts my heart to be down 93% ouch. So sad you try to do what’s right and it seems like an epic fail. I know Jesus is not looking down saying you should have prayed harder, you should have tithed more, you should have gone long not short. He’s saying hang in my good and faithful servants your “loafs of bread and fish “moment is coming. He’s also saying”you bone heads , when it does happen. SELL
Well he’s probably not saying that but he should.

Wayne C.
Wayne C.
Member
September 30, 2016 9:51 PM

Ed H,

Thanks for calling me a Bonehead! lol For the record, I think I’m in very good company.

I believe I’ve heard the message loud and clear…sell when He tells you to sell, unlike Brexit.

You’ve been a lot more hands-on than many on Z3. I’ve been flying more than usual and it is tough to even check the market when open.

My philosophy, to a great extent, has been to let God take care of business without too much meddling on my part. I’d be more active if I had the opportunity to watch the market from open to close. Unfortunately, that’s impossible in my line of work on most trading days.

I’ll keep trusting and depending on Him. He is good!

I appreciate your heartfelt compassion on all the Z3ers attempting to finish the race!

TomP
TomP
Member
September 30, 2016 3:09 PM

To all patient Joseph’s,

I want you know that I’ve been praying for you today and will continue over the weekend. My prayer is that our Father gives peace in all of our hearts despite what we’ve been experiencing in the market these last several months. That If we’ve made mistakes in our investing decisions that He will turn them around for us, as we know that, ALL things work together for good for those that love the Lord and are called according to His purposes. That He will continue to put on our hearts, His desires on how any funds that He trusts us with, will be used. That we continually seek His will for our lives and we put complete trust in Him that He will bring to pass His will and in His timing.

Stay encouraged and please take some time to thank He, who loved us first.

Peace and blessings to all of you.

Wayne C.
Wayne C.
Member
September 30, 2016 8:00 PM

TomP,

We all need to pray for each other. I join you in lifting up the “Josephs in Training” in prayer. Your words of encouragement are greatly appreciated.

I keep discovering new opportunities to invest in the Kingdom, hopeful that He provides the necessary resources.

It would be such a wonderful blessing to sow many seeds for the Great Harvest and then watch them grow. There is so much we would be able to do to advance His Kingdom on Earth. It would be nice to put the market investing behind us and really roll our sleeves up to move mountains through faith for His glory!

God Bless

Sonia
Sonia
Member
October 1, 2016 3:03 PM

Great word Wayne ! Thanks for sharing !

Richard C
Richard C
Member
September 30, 2016 7:55 AM

I an frankly disappointed. I have been holding UVXY for months anticipating the blastoff. UVXY closed at 80.25 post Brexit (split adjusted) on 06-24-16. Now the target is a rise to 25.00. Some blastoff! I have never lost so much money since joining this website in June. So much speculation with very little results.

Earnest
Earnest
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September 30, 2016 7:57 PM
Z3, To all those who have been discouraged and have lost a lot of money like I have investing, I want to encourage you that God is still able to do exceedingly above all we could ever ask, hope, or think. I remember a couple of weeks ago telling God, “I know I asked you if investing was the right thing to do and I know you said yes.” But after losing funds and having to withdraw funds for emergencies, I thought I missed God, but I know I didn’t. I believe God has told many of us to invest at a time which he knew we would lose because he wanted to test our faithfulness and our trust in Him. Most successful businesses don’t achieve their success until they invest a lot of time and money and endure severe losses. Paul said, “I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound.” It’s not just about making money, but it’s about learning priceless lessons along the way. And one of the most important lessons is exactly what Paul is talking about: being able to handle the ups and downs until you reach your goal. Honestly, it isn’t fruitful for God to bless us financially without testing our ability to still trust Him after losing, It would be easy if we didn’t suffer loss, but even Jesus had to suffer the loss of His own life and separation from God the Father before He could receive ALL glory, honor, dominion, and power! If he had to suffer before he could receive His inheritance, shouldn’t we? God has been so faithful, He has given us His Word that says, “Though you slay me, yet will I trust you!” I truly believe that the Lord desires for us to suffer… Read more »
Wayne C.
Wayne C.
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September 30, 2016 10:20 PM

Earnest,

I agree He has been bringing us down to build us up. He is transforming us day by day. It can be a painful process, with lots of humble pie. It is relationship altering and building. He is the ultimate refiner.

Thanks for sharing a very encouraging word during these challenging times.

Blessings, Brother

Chris A.
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September 30, 2016 8:21 PM

Thanks for the true words of wisdom Earnest. I feel the Lord is trying to put us all in a place of understanding to be able to empathize with all the people we are surrounded with in our life that are about to be wiped out financially when this system comes crashing down.

Ed h
Ed h
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September 30, 2016 3:33 PM
Z3, This is for anyone invested in UVXY. You need to ask yourselves some serious questions. Do I even know what Uvxy is? What does Uvxy do? Did you read the perspectous? It tells you all about the fund as well as the decay factor. If you don’t know those answers why would you even invest in it? Not even experienced investors keep this monster for more than a few days. It was created for day traders who wanted more leverage on the Vix futures. . This thing can literally drop or increase over night. James comments are all getting thumbs down. He has shared with us his dreams and we are to take it to the Lord and pray about it. He has never said buy Uvxy today because tomorrow is the day. Guaranteed if you hold this you will lose. If the markets do nothing ,you will lose. If the markets go up but volatility is low you will lose. If markets go down and volatility is low you will lose. The only way this monster makes money is on big wave days. Up or down you can make money, but this is a tool to take out when needed, and put back in the shed when done. Yesterday UVXY calls were the ticket up 145% Today UVXY puts were the ticket up 36% Look I’m no smarter than any of you. I’m not an experienced trader by any stretch of the imagination, but when I saw my buy and hold not working I had to go to plan B. I did not know the markets were going to climb today. But I knew about an hour in so I acted on that. Today I was a Bull. James and all the others who post their dreams and… Read more »
mem
mem
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September 30, 2016 10:23 PM

It only hurts the people trying to surf the slop and chop and market time moves in both directions.

If its not sold at a loss there is no loss (assuming you aren’t using money you don’t have). The degradation factor is well known and “experienced investors” steer clear of it.

The way I see it…for those not surfing. If you already have it and you paid more for it than its trading now just hold it.

The big kahuna crash is going to happen. If you believe that big kahuna crash is going to happen, then that’s all you need to know.

When it kicks off it’s going to happen quickly. When it does, people’s hearts are going to be failing them for fear. Vix is going to shoot up. All the degradation will simply evaporate in an unprecedented fashion.

Experienced traders don’t trade based on a black swan event, they trade based on the status quo. But that is exactly whats going to happen for the experienced traders drunk on normalcy bias.

This black swan is not just a black swan. It is an end of the world black swan. From the common man to the government, they are going to be in denial. Holding fast to their normalcy bias. Thinking they can “fix it” with enough meetings.

While they are in the denial stage. Exit all positions and get to work ASAP!

Psalm 139:21-22
21Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
22I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.

John Smith
John Smith
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October 1, 2016 4:30 PM

mem: This is quite the visionary post… I believe it will be a world changing big Kahuna crash that takes even the most experienced traders down with it. On a few other sites I belong to, no one really believes we’ll go down hard this year, and they’ve been numbed down to the concept of a black swan by the market’s resiliency and always coming back from potential drops. Therefore, once we hit about late Sept., I took final positions to hold through to the crash in Oct/Nov and will not be flipping those as none of really know the hour of real doom, and I believe those here need to be careful to keep this in sight as it will be where the real “wealth transfer” takes place.

I avoided about 6 weeks of the slop/chop back the last of July, whole month of Aug. and first part of Sept., due to my observance of that Three Peaks/Domed House pattern of low summer volatility, and now those patterns are saying we’ve peaked and are going down very hard in the near future along with all those crash charts we’ve been discussing. It is very close now, and the veil should be coming off the beast shortly. I believe this event will be the start of the fall of the second Roman empire (US), and likely lead us into acceptance of a new world currency…. Best…

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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October 2, 2016 5:53 PM

My best understanding by revelation is that we will see a fast move down that is very scary for a very brief amount of time, what we call H2. After that, we go up, and it appears significantly. I disagree that none know the real hour. I think a time is coming, and yet possibly here, where some will. JR

John Smith
John Smith
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October 2, 2016 7:53 PM
Hey Professor: I have a lot of confidence in the revelations of many here, but I also know how things can go sideways. I believe most of us would agree on the final outcome with these markets, but the turns, twists, and delays are all land mines. I missed 400k in 02 because of greed, 1.85 mil. in 08 because of bad timing (and greed), and I just want to be alive and in position when the next big one hits. One of my main points as of late has been to not get too greedy and cute with ones strategy, and to diversify. Hedging can be a great way to diversify at key lows and significantly increase your odds of surviving a delay (not being too greedy): One of my favorites is Ecc. 11. 1) Cast your bread on the surface of the waters, for you will find it after many days. 2) Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth. 5) Just as you do not know the path of the wind and how bones are formed in the womb of the pregnant woman, so you do not know the activity of God who makes all things… 6) Sow your seed in the morning and do not be idle in the evening, for you do not know whether morning or evening sowing will succeed, or whether both of them alike will be good… I believe this passage teaches us about diversification and to not rely on just one strategy, to hedge and cover multiple options, and stay diligent with our sewing of seed. I believe we’re very close to the top at current levels, and even if a higher top is made, those securing FAZ… Read more »
Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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October 2, 2016 8:38 PM
JS That’s all great. You have a strategy. You have negation, you have hedges, you are protecting yourself in case you’re wrong. You have some beliefs about what will happen, and you build a plan around those beliefs. You use things like Pultz windows, Jewish calendar, EW or other chart patterns, lunar eclipses, and such, which are outside my personal comfort zones, but no matter. So, you do what the Lord leads you to do, as will I. No problem. However, as I’ve suggested in the past I would just caution statements like: “I believe many will wake up one day and will say, “sure wish I took a short and hold position in FAZ on 9-29-16”, Many were willing to hold on to FAZ from April to Aug/Sept, so why wouldn’t one want to hold it during Oct./Nov.?? I fear many are going to get too cute with their strategies and potentially look for a higher high that may never come, or over-trade UVXY too much, and miss the “Wealth Transfer” completely” I believe this crosses the line from explaining what you would do, to suggesting what other people should do; to even going further towards criticizing trade actions if they don’t fit your idea of correct. You are not a registered investment professional, and blanket statements like this do not apply to everyone. Everyone has different risk tolerances, investment objectives, etc. So, I counsel to stay away from giving investment advice and stay closer toward what you are doing and how you think about things. Let the Lord speak to each individual on how they are to respond, if at all. This is important because if we begin to “sell” our ideas, or to shame folks because they aren’t following our ideas, it can become manipulative, and we… Read more »
John Smith
John Smith
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October 2, 2016 9:43 PM
JR: My response that many may wish they took a short and position on 9-29-16 was basically a response to Sonia, which agrees with her strategy of picking up FAZ on September 29, 2016 and holding it (It wasn’t an original post of mine on picking up FAZ on that date). I don’t trade FAZ. She has chosen to just sit tight in FAZ and not try to time the markets going up and down based on revelations, or other methods. I happen to agree with her that could be a simpler and potentially better way to go for some than flipping in and out, which is why I caution folks about getting too cute. I am not a registered investment professional, and I typically don’t make recommend to others and normally share what I’m doing. I do add qualifiers many times that this is not a trading recommendation, etc. I typically really try not to SELL my ideas and especially if they are in “one direction”. I don’t think I’ve ever criticized or “shamed” anyone on this site for making bad trading decisions, ever……. If so, please show me an example…. I would appreciate it if you don’t insinuate that I’m trying to do that, as that is certainly not my goal for posting here. I would agree that each investor must let the Lord speak to him/her about their own unique decisions and strategy. We all come at this from different angles, and I don’t necessarily agree with traders putting too much reliance on revelations alone, but that is just me, but I believe in the principals of involving many trading strategies, TA, revelations, history, and diversification. In your post to mem, you said: ” The Lord is much more precise than that. We can establish positions with… Read more »
Francine
Francine
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October 3, 2016 2:29 AM

I like your post John. Rick Joyner told us an investing experience that he had with the Lord. Rick said that he was telling the Lord that he was very happy with the sale of a specific stock because Rick had sold it at the very max price, just before it went down.. The Lord responded something like this: ‘you have NOT done so good’ You have NOT traded according to the principles that i thought to you, The Lord gave this verse to Rick: “‘When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest.” (Leviticus 23:22). Rick said it changed his perspective on trading for ever.

For me, i took it to the Lord and I felt the teaching was from God and it changed my appetite for getting always the most of everything.

I am not saying that the trading information given in this site is not from God. In fact, i appreciate every one’s sharing of what the Lord showed to them or their view.. I am saying that it is important to take it to God to ask Him how each of us we should trade, The trading world is a greedy world, we must be carefull to remain pure in the midst of it. Just like Gary Lee’s post on Sept 29 very much in line with the Rick’s teaching ‘Interesting that the Lord has given me permission to sell only half of my FAZ @$46.56 to reposition @ $23. GB’

John Smith
John Smith
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October 3, 2016 5:18 PM
Francine – Yeh, I’ve been told to not go for the first and last 10-15%, and keep your underlying goals/risks in mind constantly. I’ve already tried to share some of my past issues with playing market crash periods such as this in hope to persuade some that things can go sideways, even with well laid out plans. My goals for the coming drop are certainly different than for my normal trading, which is why I’m being a lot more cautious on the downside potential, and hedging when I can. There will be plenty of time to trade in normal markets, but opportunities of this magnitude don’t come along all that often, IMO. As discussed below, hedging ones position and taking profits is one way to cast your bread onto many waters and stay alive to fight another day, and the concepts of risk management are well discussed here by James and other folks. I glean a lot from many revelations on this site as well as from other sources and my own TA and revelations, and your right, its something we must take it to the Lord, and limit greed and narrow views. I find it interesting that both you and I are going to maintain a core holding of shorts at this point in the process in the near term. Another option to hedge is to take profits on a good size drop and go into FAS, the opposite of FAX, to account for a short term bullish move. One could actually increase their overall shares doing this, if the moves are large enough, while extending their timeline for the drop should it be delayed, if its done at the correct times. I believe this strategy is in alignment with the Ecc. 11 concepts of diversification. I mean no… Read more »
Richard
Richard
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October 3, 2016 11:10 PM

Is there a place to find Rick Joyners investment advice?

Philip - Sydney
Philip - Sydney
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October 3, 2016 1:55 AM

Well said John Smith – I see your point clearly on FAZ as a long term hold. I am considering a long term hold on FAZ as well.
This is a once in a lifetime crash opportunity. Trying to be too smart buying and selling waves may mean you miss the crash opportunity that will never to be repeated.
regards and I enjoy your posts very much
PHILIP

Sonia
Sonia
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October 3, 2016 6:15 AM

Philip, well said !

John Smith
John Smith
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October 3, 2016 4:56 PM

Philip – Very succinctly put!! I, as well as many on this site, see the coming event as pretty major. It certainly reminds me of 08, but its more global, sizable, and systemic in scope. My main objective is to stay alive, financially, until it goes down, and the powers that control things will do all they can to delay, hide, and befuddle many from profiting from it, so we must be very diligent and account for multiple possibilities (cast your bread onto many waters, and sew seed both evening and night)…..I even have 2 separate accounts with separate firms in case one goes belly up. Those playing FAZ can diversify by taking some profits on a good size drop as well as potentially hedging (one option I put forth on hedging was to roll a smaller size portion into FAS at the low, which is the bullish 3x opposite of FAZ, while maintaining a core position short, and its something that can prayerfully be considered too). I’m doing something similar with my options as indicated… Best to you….

Ole Sorensen
Ole Sorensen
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October 3, 2016 6:14 PM

John, Philip and Sonia:
I’m seeing it the same way. I have a couple accounts, long FAZ. Like others here, I’ve been in these positions for more than a year, watching and waiting. I’m trusting for that Watch and Wonder moment. Thanks to all three of you for the encouragement to hang in there. We’ll need each other when this all happens to make sure we don’t misstep. Peace.

Sonia
Sonia
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October 3, 2016 7:05 PM

Ole, hang in there it is coming…and you are on the right track !
God bless !

Sonia
Sonia
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October 3, 2016 7:03 PM

Great strategy John!
I am also diversifying and minimizing risks by holding 4 accounts in two different firms…
this time around will be different than 2008 in that the whole financial system will collapse …nevertheless not overnight so we have some time to react and adjust to whatever will come our way !
All the best to you !

Sonia
Sonia
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October 3, 2016 6:16 AM

Awesome post John !
God bless !

Michael P.
Michael P.
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October 3, 2016 1:39 AM

John, are you investing in just ES calls & puts or have options on individual banks or something else in the mix?

John Smith
John Smith
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October 3, 2016 6:40 PM

Michael P: For now, its just ES puts options for Oct/Nov. in two separate brokerage accounts. to diversify, I may be getting some more/different strikes in Oct and Nov. I felt like I needed to keep it simple but diversify enough with one symbol (ES) to increase of odds of good hits when it goes, since I’m very used to price/risk/reward profiles on that one. If I were going to get some stock put options, I’ve been looking at BAC, FB, Yahoo, GM, and Winnebago (WGO). Best…. I believe diversification is key on separate symbols.

Michael P.
Michael P.
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October 3, 2016 11:27 PM

John Smith:
Thanks for sharing your views on options for diversification. I always appreciate seeing your insightful posts when I come and lurk on Z3

Ed h
Ed h
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October 3, 2016 7:13 PM

John,
I’m watching FB as well its at a point right now that it could go up or down. Today was up so I did not enter yet. I’m looking to go short but waiting.

John Smith
John Smith
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October 3, 2016 8:09 PM

Ed h, Yeh, its a little bit like Amazn and AAPL, and they need to peak first. When they go, its going to be amazing…

Ed h
Ed h
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October 3, 2016 8:19 PM

John,
Yep I’m not on face book but I’ll join them for the ride down.

John Smith
John Smith
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October 3, 2016 8:37 PM

Ed h: Ha…- Good one… I’m not on FB either. I don’t have the time, nor do I want the Gov. access to personal info.

Sonia
Sonia
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October 2, 2016 4:09 AM
Great post John ! I agree with you… In the days ahead it will be difficult to “navigate the trading waters” and for this reason on September 29, 2016 I also took my final positions to hold through the crash and will not flipping those…. I always sensed that Mena Lee Grebin’s words on the timing of the crash / collapse were true when she said : “there will not be any big crash during the Jubilee”. Jubilee has ended and now is the time of reckoning …. God is about to judge the financial world, ….I really don’t know what it will look like except that it will be very hard for those who are not prepared. As for me, I have pretty much converted all my positions into FAZ positions (I kept a few gold and silver mining stocks ) and I Will stay in the “Ark of God ” until some of the big waves have crashed….. I feel I have done everything I could to be fully prepared for what is to come. I can now relax, focus on God and focus on what He wants me to do next. Talking about the next phase, I have I have started Looking at the different non profit organizations God wants me to donate money to (blessing the Kingdom of God with finances..,). I recently was in Israel and met with awesome people (Jews and Christians) working together to restore Israel …. And I was in awe on how God orchestrated divine appointments for me to meet these people. So as the Scriptures says : ” …to the Jews first and then the Gentiles” that is what I will do : I will first give to the Jewish organizations and then the Christian organizations. There has not been… Read more »
John Smith
John Smith
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October 2, 2016 12:44 PM
Sonia – I believe many will wake up one day and will say, “sure wish I took a short and hold position in FAZ on 9-29-16”, Many were willing to hold on to FAZ from April to Aug/Sept, so why wouldn’t one want to hold it during Oct./Nov.?? I fear many are going to get too cute with their strategies and potentially look for a higher high that may never come, or over-trade UVXY too much, and miss the “Wealth Transfer” completely. For my 2/3 fixed Oct/Nov positions, I’m going to be like Charles Bronson (NRA) – They’re going to have to pry my crash puts “out of my cold dead hands”, ha. Good read on Mena Grebin’s advice, and I think the Lord’s hands are going to be all over the coming events and key Jewish dates and previous crash patterns will likely play out, as history repeats, and God will hold his key dates for judgment/debt cleansing, IMO. On the other hand, there are truly good people here that potential see a potential for a higher high after what ever Hangman we get here next, and I believe it is possible to easily stay locked for a crash while hedging to allow you to play for an extension of the drop time-line (keep you in the game if Man is able to delay the inevitable through manipulation). The way I’m hedging for a potential delay will be to flip my 1/3 higher puts into Oct. calls if we can nail close to the bottom of the next drop and then start to flip those back to further out dated puts (Nov/Dec), hopefully. Someone holding FAZ could take 1/3 to 1/4 of their positions and get the 3X bull fund to hedge at the bottom of H2 to stay… Read more »
Michael P.
Michael P.
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October 2, 2016 6:28 PM

John, excellent comment.

Sonia
Sonia
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October 2, 2016 4:28 PM

John, I totally agree !
And best to you too !

Corrine
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October 2, 2016 2:42 PM

John, thanks for your post! I always enjoy reading what you have to say. Amen. Blessings,
Corrine

Gary
Gary
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October 2, 2016 5:17 PM

Greetings Sonia! My understanding from the following resource is that a Jubilee Year ends on the Day of Atonement (October 12) rather than on Rosh Hashanah (October 3) – http://thetorah.com/yom-kippur-jubilee-liberty/ .According to this, the Jubilee Year will not end for another 10 Days. Any additional insight is welcome…

Matt NZ
Matt NZ
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October 2, 2016 7:48 PM
Micheal
Micheal
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October 2, 2016 8:22 PM

Matt . With release date of Oct 28 for both China and US anything is possible. Murray where are you man.

Francine
Francine
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October 7, 2016 11:25 PM

A messianic pastor told me that 1) The new year begins 14 days before Passover. And 2) we are in the jubilee year until spring 2017.

The bible said “This month shall mark for you the beginning of the months; it shall be the first of the months of the year for you.” (Exodus 12.2; see also Exodus 12.18; Joshua 4.19; 2 Chronicles 35.1). The biblical beginning of the year is therefore seven months before the date Rosh HaShanah is now celebrated.

Passover (Leviticus 23.5) is celebrated at twilight on the fourteenth day of the FIRST month of the year.

If you google, you will find many references to this on the internet but here is one of them.
http://www.shamar.org/articles/the-truth-about-rosh-hashana.php#.V_hu7pgrLIU

What is the impact on the interpretation of the dream that James got in November 2015, in which he heard, “One-month delay.” ?
James said: ‘First, I have been considering an alternative interpretation of the dates God spoke to me. Instead of basing them on the Gregorian calendar, what if He was referring to the Hebrew calendar?’ But what is really the Hebrew calendar?
https://z3news.com/w/factors-pointing-stock-market-crash-fall/

Another subject to seek the Lord.
Someone can help me to understand?

mem
mem
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October 8, 2016 10:03 AM
The orthodox jews prize their traditions above the scripture and have twisted the biblical calendar to suit their traditions creating their orthodox calendar. Your messianic pastor is absolutely right in my opinion. There is only one “head of the year” defined in the scripture. It is Aviv 1 or Nisan 1. The phrase “rosh hashanah” actually means “head of the year” but the it has been incorrectly used synonymously with “feast of trumpets”. When in actuality, rosh hashanah is Aviv 1/Nisan 1, while the feast of trumpets is a completely unrelated feast/date to rosh hashanah…if you only pay attention to what the Bible says and not the oral torah/talmud. I believe that the language used in the bible to announce the Jubilee year around Day of atonement has been misunderstood and it it is more accurately read/interpreted to mean the announcement of the Jubilee year that is coming in force on Aviv 1. This period of announcement was required to allow the people to prepare for the long period of time where they cannot plant/harvest from their fields. The Jubilee only came, generally, once, in the lifetime of a person (once every 50 years) so it was not a common event like say a weekly sabbath. It required a period of forewarning and incredible preparation to avoid starving to death!. So the coming Jubilee year was announced on Day of Atonement, but did not actually being and start its many binding restrictions until Aviv 1/Nisan 1. Because so many people follow the jewish orthodox/talmudic traditions for the calendar (the same pharaseeic talmud that Yeshua condemned harshly, their leaven) this really throws a wrench in many interpretations that pivot off the feast days. This has been my prayer. “God show me your calendar, show me how to follow Your Feast Days… Read more »
Meghan Marks
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October 8, 2016 8:59 PM

Join the discussion”God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God. However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years. I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.” Galatians 4:6-11

The seasons and festivals are imagery used to understand concepts of the heavenly kingdom. Like Jesus flesh became the curtain of the temple to the holy of holies. There had to be a temple and a holy of holies for us to understand what Jesus did. His sacrifice was like the high priest going into the temple but He doesn’t have to go every year, only once for all. Once He came and fulfilled it we no longer needed a temple because we understood the principle it represented. It wasn’t literal leaven that Jesus was talking about but the small things we allow in our lives that influence every other part of it.

I’ve also wanted to know how to celebrate the truth in a way that honors God and instructs my children. There is liturgy on each of the seasons celebrating the fulfilled prophesies of Christ. I’ve been thinking I’m going to look into these and start celebrating them with my family.

Francine
Francine
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October 8, 2016 10:45 AM

thanks mem. My prayer is exactly the same as yours. So let us EXPECT a clear revelation from the Lord with a beautiful family of brothers and sisters willing to celebrate the true Feasts of the Lord.

Puzzling that according to the biblical calendar, the ‘one-month delay’ received by James in November 2015 would already be over by now (in reference to the dream received in July 2014). The Lord does nothing without first showing to His prophet but He seams to like enigma.

Gary
Gary
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October 8, 2016 8:23 AM

Hi Francine. Perhaps the following will help to explain the Jewish calendar(s). Essentially, there are 2 ‘New Years’ days which co-exist and are described in the context of the Biblical calendar and the Civil calendar:

Nisan 1 (i.e., Rosh Chodashim) marks the start of the month of the Exodus from Egypt and the beginning of Jewish national history. As such, it represents the start of the Biblical year for counting the festivals (Exod. 12:2). Note that the month of Nisan is also called Aviv since it marks the official start of spring.

Tishri 1 was originally associated with the agricultural “Feast of Ingathering” at the “end of the year” (Exod. 23:16, 34:22), though after the destruction of the Second Temple, the sages decided it would mark the start of the civil year in the fall. Tishri 1 was therefore called Rosh Hashanah (“the head of the year”) which begins a ten-day “trial” of humanity climaxing on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). This calendar is also associated with the six day’s of creation in Genesis. As such, the reference to the Flood beginning on the 17th day of the 2nd month in Genesis 7:11 refers to this ‘Civil’ calendar since the Exodus hadn’t happened yet.

Francine
Francine
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October 8, 2016 9:53 AM

thanks Gary, let me study this.
another question: do you know why Deut 14: 22-29 says to EAT your tithes (you, your family and servants)

Gary
Gary
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October 8, 2016 8:35 AM

With respect to the Jubilee year, according to some digging I have done, it starts at the close of the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) at sunset and ends just prior to sunset on the Day of Atonement in the following year. (See http://www.feastsofthelord.net/id163.html).

Lynne NZ
Lynne NZ
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October 2, 2016 8:56 PM

Sonia, that sounds great! I also have a list in my head which gets bigger all the time! The only thing I would suggest for you is that you make sure the Jewish organizations you give to are Messianic. I have heard of many Christians, who so love anything Jewish, that they give to Jews who actively work against those who try to speak of salvation through Y’shua. I’m pretty sure you are…but maybe for someone else reading it might be worth clarifying 🙂

Sonia
Sonia
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October 3, 2016 6:34 AM

Thanks Lynne for the advice but don’t worry the Jewish organizations I want to donate money to work in partnership with Christain organizations and some are messianic Jewish organizations.
Shalom!

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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October 2, 2016 6:57 PM
Mem, et. al. Experienced traders trade with an understanding as to why they are in a trade. That is, the trade has parameters, and for us, prophetic markers. Those parameters are around price, time range, levels, or other indicators that establish the basis for the trade. If these don’t exist, then I would say one doesn’t know why they are in the trade, and more importantly, don’t have rules for getting out of a losing trade. The underlying prophetic markers provide the ability to negate the trade. The ability to negate is critical to prophetic trading. The looser the negation rules the greater the possibility for very extreme losses. So, for example, if one takes the position that I will go short until the “crash comes”. That is very loose negation. It keeps you open to losses until “the crash comes” inside an unspecified time window. I guess I disagree that “all you need to know is that the big crash is coming.” The Lord is much more precise than that. We can establish positions with much greater confidence and precision, and thus much tighter negation rules. Thus, if the trade is not doing what I expect, I can get out. All I’m suggesting is that one should know why they are in a trade, so they no how to exit a trade. For me, if there is no negation, there is not enough understanding to be in the trade in the first place. Trade exit is part of the strategy even if the trade is doing what you expect. You still need to exit. You need an understanding of “how far” and “how fast”, or you could be right, but still be wrong in execution. So applying these principles to myself: 1. I believe we are at the top… Read more »
michael c.
michael c.
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October 2, 2016 10:13 PM

Hi JR, Thank you for sharing your experience of how to negate bias.
I will print it and read it often. I appreciate your wisdom.

Stirred-not-shaken
Stirred-not-shaken
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October 3, 2016 7:53 AM

JR, I had purchased UVXY some time ago (I sold it at $22 recently), at a split adjusted price of $30. I didn’t put in a stop loss at say $27 or so, and let it run all the way down to below $20. If I would have applied this advice and placed a stop loss under my position as you suggest, i would have saved a lot of losses. So its wise advice, thanks. SNS

Joe
Joe
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October 2, 2016 7:32 PM

Thanks JR for more making it clear and simple. Appreciate your faith and conviction.Found your prophecies to be the most accurate especially your call during the first debate that nothing catastrophic was going to happen.Thank the Lord for you,James and all others.Please keep updating during the wild rides of H2 and 3 and the Diamond TOP.

Chris A.
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September 30, 2016 11:00 PM

NAILED IT……..

Joseph K.
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September 30, 2016 10:56 PM

If I wanted to begin trading options, is there a good article or other resource out there to help me understand the basics? Thanks.

Ed h
Ed h
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October 1, 2016 8:42 AM

Joseph,
I’m a visual learner, so for me I watched YouTube videos of basic option trading. Don’t try to get all technical with it. Just stick to the basics of options and you will understand them quickly. For a regular stock if you think it will rise in price you buy Calls , if you think it will go down in price you buy Puts.

Pick any company you want. Then start watching how the options perform at a certain expiration date. It’s tempting when you first start , to look down the chart and pick something cheap way down the list. DONT DO IT. Stay with the prices near what the stock is trading at.

Joe
Joe
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October 1, 2016 6:44 AM
Joe
Joe
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September 30, 2016 11:10 PM

Joseph
Tried to learn basics of option trading through internet,talking to people etc but was finding it very hard. One day Lord just downloaded the principles of option trading into my spirit and i just knew how to trade from that moment on wards. Praise The Lord.

Joseph K.
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October 2, 2016 3:32 PM

Thanks Ed h and Joe for the suggestions!

Phanuel
Phanuel
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September 30, 2016 4:13 PM

Ed H
Some of us (including Gary Lee, Peachey, and myself) have also shared the Lord warned us ( in different ways) against taking UVXY positions. We humbly shared those warnings. All we can do is share what the Lord has revealed to us. JB has just shared another warning.

Shalom

TomP
TomP
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September 30, 2016 7:57 PM
Phanuel, I do remember both Peachy and your posts, (don’t believe I ever saw Gary’s) regarding UVXY and they each were clear that the Lord warned you guys personally about this investment vehicle. I also remember that it was clear in these posts that it was for “you” and you weren’t suggesting that it was for everyone. In all fairness, your posts were being weighed against James’ article about the UVXY blast off. Therefore, it was a more complex decision of whether or not to invest, because you had what appeared to be an acceptable opportunity to invest and also people who received personal warnings about it. Note also, that both sides are trusted and credible people on this site. I can speak only for myself and state that I prayed about this investment and based on current results i heard incorrectly or had a biased interpretation. Additionally, throughout this process I had been praying about exiting the position or holding. I’ll state that at times I held because I believed it was the correct thing to do as to holding by faith expecting the predicted drop. Even last week, me going short based on what was being shared as far an imminent drop was also my incorrect decision to enter the trade. As the most recent UVXY update post by James, I entered the trade AFTER the blast off that James saw. Again, be clear, I take full responsibility for every trade decision I’ve made and I’ve continually sought God as to why I’m making the wrong decisions. I am grateful, (as I expressed earlier to James) for today’s UVXY update. While it wasn’t what I would’ve wanted to read/hear, I took the his warning seriously and looked for opportunities to get out of my UVXY position today…unfortunately, it… Read more »
Phanuel
Phanuel
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September 30, 2016 10:50 PM

Tom P
I understand you brother as it is not easy discerning through everything. We are all doing the best we can. It’s also not right to force revelation on anyone, so I stir away from that. Recall I encouraged you to buy FAZ rather than UVXY .., and I said “FAZ was more protected”. At this point I would wait and see what next week brings, because UVXY might still go higher. According to the dream on 9/26 we have a divine appointment next week. Have a blessed weekend.

Shalom

Bhav
Bhav
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October 4, 2016 10:51 AM
I have been involved in tech analysis since >25 years but started trusting bible prophecy, believer’s dream and vision more than those scientific techniques. I also believe many people do not receive dreams and visions from God as they claim, so, I have to trust and ask holy spirit for discernment. ——– 1)I have started cancelling many expensive stock market subscription to save $$$$, as, almost all are consistently wrong and none of experts never said they were wrong or missed huge opportunity. They only declares and promote “few accurate” predictions and anyone will have couple of successful results to display, while, they are providing report and analysis on daily basis. Some people predicts very obvious in the name of prophecy or expertise such as, they declare “top is in place” but they have been telling this since djia was 10k,11k…..18k – yes, they will be correct one day. 2)Bo Polny’s predictions are not accurate either…I watch him, as; he is Christian and he believes in Bible prophecy etc. Most his timeline & predictions are wrong… https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bo+polny+october+2016 3)I believe Peter Temple is genuine, sincere knowledgeable person. However, it seems that he considers and trusts lots in Robert Prechter’s works but I recently unsubscribed from elliot wave paid news letter with following comments as they asked for reason or comment… “”I agree that Robert Prechter is very knowledgeable and respected tech analyst, however, due to huge manipulation and control of world central banks and Fed, I am convinced that neither tech analysis or fundamentals are working as it used to few years back for market forecast (since at least 2008). Everyone knows that one day market will collapse but it seems no one is able to identify even close range or timeline since last 7-8 years and almost all gurus and… Read more »
ChristineB
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October 4, 2016 3:15 PM

Bhav. Thanks for that information and I agree about your analysis on TA.

I had a dream last night that I met Taylor Swift and I was telling her that Father God loved her but not the path she was on and the life she was leading, it actually offended Him. It was not her destiny. EOD.
Very short, real dream.

My interpretation:
Taylor = TA (performance)
Swift = Bank System (speedily declining)
Destiny = Dreams
Path = Trading direction/plan
It could mean that dreams from our heavenly Father will out perform TA’s any day, anytime. That maybe our Father wants us to focus on perfecting prophetic dreaming to get on the best path (winning path) with trading especially in relation to the banking system. His plan is always perfect.

What do you think?

Bhav
Bhav
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October 4, 2016 4:20 PM

ChristineB, Interesting dream. Fully in agreement with your interpretation. thank you for sharing this.
thx again,
bhav

mem
mem
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October 4, 2016 11:17 AM

Bhav – I definitely understand where you are coming from and agree on many points. It is probably a good thing you cut out the stock tip subscriptions.

So what is your plan going forward with all that being said? Are you planning on staying short for the big crash or thinking of going long in the short term and market time? Or are you done with market at this point?

From my side, I am looking for a buildup of negative events between now and the end of Oct with position exits to be taken in mid to late Nov. If we get to Christmas and/or a US Inauguration with the status quo still going strong, I think we will be back to square 1

Bhav
Bhav
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October 4, 2016 11:40 AM

Hi mem, thank you for your comment. I agree with your Oct-Nov timeframe. I would never take “long position” while dow is 18k. Currently, I’m playing short using tvix-vxx-uvxy etc with appropriate stop loss. In fact, some of my predictions were wrong about tvix this year but I was on track for silver/USLV – up and then going down again.It is moving as I expected and I’m now waiting for gold and silver to make bottom so that I can start buying some physical silver and gold. I believe silver and gold are moving towards final bottom vs dxy will make final top – don’t know approx targets at this point. I follow James & others advise and comments very closely (z3news) and I also follow Trunews as one of the most reliable source.
Thank You, God’s Joy & Peace be with you,
bhav

Ed h
Ed h
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October 4, 2016 12:11 PM

Bhav,
Thanks for sharing this. I too am finding it hard to figure out the future trends. I’m still new to investing but find it very interesting and loving every minute of it. I’m having more success by following the daily trend than trying to predict the trend. I too am watching silver and today it’s getting slammed. If you don’t mind sharing how are you trading Uvxy? Also where do you place your stops? I’m using 20% on UVXY because it’s so unpredictable . Thanks

Bhav
Bhav
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October 4, 2016 2:08 PM

Hello Ed, You are correct saying short term is working little better than predicting trend since last few years. But I have full time I.T job so can not do daily trading. I’m more focused on tvix now days over uvxy.
Today morning tvix was good for trading – buy at open around 17.60 with stop loss of 17.12 but I keep stop loss based on closing rather than just price break. If it closes below 17.12 then will cover the position. I have seen just price break is sometimes misleading. It went to 18.70 and would still buy around 18 with the same stop loss. I don’t do daily trading but mostly 2-4 weeks bear etf – buy and wait approach with stop loss.
I don’t make decision based on ETF chart only but keep close eye on VIX and Dow & DJT. Today, DJT was strong in the morning but was due for correction and I just checked and seems 100 points down from today’s top already. My favorite indicator is RSI since last 25 years. I like LABD & ERY as well – personally looks good buy to me with the stop loss of 52 weeks low. Again, tech indicators are not working out well for medium to long term trend but still not bad for short term.
Thank You, God Bless You
bhav

Ed h
Ed h
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October 2, 2016 10:04 AM
This is for the people on z3 who don’t trade etf’s or options. Or are even afraid to invest. There is a way to make money without options or even shorting one single stock. It’s called crisis investing. The basics of it are that after a serious sell off of any market sector you get in. Yes you get in when everyone else is running the other way. After the 08 crash many companies dropped like a rock because of the economic situation. They were not bad companies but they too rose with the tide and fell with the tide. You can do a basic stock price history of any company and track how they did shortly afterwards. One example Starbucks after crash stock prices 11/08 $4. This is where you start 11/09. $11 One year return. 275% 11/10. $15. Two year return. 375% 11/11. $21. Three year return 525% Starbucks today is at $54. Since 08 it has had one stock split , it was a 2 for 1 that I could find. A 2 for 1 means if you had 100 shares at $10 now would have 200 shares at $5. So had you invested $4000 in 08 today you would have 2000 shares at $54 = $108,000.00 So yes you missed the crash and shorting the markets, but soon after you got in and now have more money than most retired people who work all their lives to save , and you did it with $4000 This is just one of thousands of companies that went way under value and came back to fair value. There are many many opportunities coming. When the rest of the investors are panicking and losing everything is when the crisis investor steps in. Investing is not hard. Investing is not scary.… Read more »
Jas
Jas
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October 3, 2016 9:29 PM

Ed, good sharing. Please let us know what stock you recommend after the next crash.

Ed h
Ed h
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October 3, 2016 10:55 PM

Jas,
Just think of any retailer that will be hurt by people not spending extra money they don’t have. Another example is Lazy Boy . Who’s gonna buy a couch if you don’t have a job. Today they are at $24.46 in 08 they got down to .70 cents a share. 24.46/.70 = 3494% gain in 8 years. Not bad for sitting on a Lazy Boy for 8 years. Could you imagine if you would have bought 1000 shares at $700. That would be worth $24,460.00 today

Lynne NZ
Lynne NZ
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October 2, 2016 10:41 AM

Thank you Ed h, that starts a whole new line of prayer! Look forward to hearing more 🙂

Ed h
Ed h
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October 2, 2016 11:13 AM

Lynne NZ,
We all have our investing “path” it’s whatever the Lord is showing to us .

James had a dream about UVXY that is for him. The dream he shared is for us to take to God. God , what does this mean for me? Is there extreme volatility coming in the markets? Is there going to be something coming that causes this ? How and what can I do to get ready? This dream could be for 4months from now or 4 days. No one knows that’s why we seek him first before jumping on the UVXY train and find out it’s going the wrong direction.

Not one of us can’t say the last 2 weeks have not been crazy with ups and downs almost everyday.

We don’t only have 2 chances to get this right. We have many chances and there are many ways to get there. For all of you under water don’t get discouraged and give up . But don’t just sit there either start being proactive and start studying the past crash cycles and you will start seeing trends and patterns. John Smith is posting about this all the time.

Bond James Bond
Bond James Bond
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September 30, 2016 9:42 AM

James: I’m really confused by this update. The rocket must have had bad “O” rings! I remember you second guessed yourself on the original Brexit dream and it ended up being correct. Are you sure this is not happening now? Is there still a second and third hangman in the mix?

Thorsten-R
Thorsten-R
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September 30, 2016 3:16 AM

Current financial crisis predicted in 1981 movie Rollover
https://youtu.be/m1aQ-XGWors

i think so we arrive soon at the lehman moment for deutsche bank.
would perfect fit elul29 / shemitha crash date this weekend.
hedgefund withdraw cash so i see the path of lehman.

http://wolfstreet.com/2016/09/28/eu-banking-mayhem-one-bank-at-a-time-then-all-at-once/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/run-begins-deutsche-bank-hedge-fund-clients-cut-collateral-exposure

DavidM
DavidM
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September 30, 2016 3:42 AM

I agree, looks like David Wilkerson’s prophecy of economic crash beginning in Germany is at the door. http://yournewswire.com/deutsche-bank-collapse-inevitable-prepare-for-economic-armageddon/

Micheal
Micheal
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October 5, 2016 2:01 AM

Thorsten. Rollover Movie is the Elite’s way of letting us know what is coming. For overseas buyers of FAZ there is the risk of Capital Controls. So exit time is very important.

Manof
Manof
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October 5, 2016 9:05 AM

Found Rollover on YT, thanks for the reference, I hadn’t heard of it before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9yyiD0MTvc

You are certainly correct. Timing is critical. You just can’t wait for everyone in the movie theater to be stampeding for the door. You have to be ahead of the herd. Even if its only minutes. It is almost surreal, seeing the one person, moseying out of the theater while the rest of the audience stays transfixed on the movie, while theater management is still in a state of status quo. Minutes later panic sets in and people are trodden under foot trying to squeeze out of the exits. Management of the theater, recognizes the panic and locks the doors. But the lone moseyer is already outside the theater oblivious to the chaos missed by mere minutes.

Aside from financial markets and capitol controls, this also applies to travel controls and borders. You just can’t wait until the last possible minute when everyone else has already figured out the same thing and there is no doubt anymore.
This poses a dilemma as it requires faith to act, BEFORE you know 100% sure when it will happen. Waiting until it has happened, leaves one totally disadvantaged
Blessings
Manof Tar

Thorsten
Thorsten
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October 5, 2016 8:12 AM

i have the same thoughts.
do you think so after selling there is later no way to convert USD into another currency or what do you mean by the risk of capital controls

Micheal
Micheal
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October 5, 2016 8:38 AM

In the Movie Clip there is talk of capital controls being imposed in US. In that case an overseas investor will not be able to take his money back home in any form,it will have to remain in US.

John Smith
John Smith
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October 2, 2016 11:17 AM

Z3: America is on top of the world because the dollar is the world’s reserve currency. The Russia/China lead coalition to install a new world currency is gaining strength with up to a 57 nation alliance now, and it goes into effect very soon (I believe it was targeted for first of Oct) through the AIIB (similar to our IMF). Soon after, we may see treasuries, bonds, US dollar, and stocks topple, as well as low real estate prices and massive inflation in the US. If you have about 30 minutes, its worth watching the video in the article. If you can make some bucks off a market drop, you’d quickly need to figure out how to protect the value of your money and protect your family. (of course, paying off all debts and physical PMs in your position are advisable) Best….

http://thesovereigninvestor.com/exclusives/americas-day-reckoning-exposed/?z=497177

Joseph K.
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October 2, 2016 3:29 PM

Thanks John!

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