Alison Pound’s recent word about detention camps for illegal immigrants reminded me of a dream my 11 year-old daughter had last year about President Trump and detention camps, which is shown below.
“I saw a huge pit. It looked as if a meteor had struck the ground to make the hole. There was a huge chain fence and brick wall all around the pit. Inside the walls, I saw guards standing around and other people who seemed like prisoners. I could tell they were Christians because one of them muttered that the music one of the guards was playing wasn’t Christian.
The prisoners were doing work – carrying boxes and setting them on shelves. They seemed brainwashed or like they didn’t really understand the situation they were in.
All of a sudden, four helicopters appeared, bringing more people into this facility. The newly arriving people were like the others – Christians who didn’t understand the situation at all.
Then Donald Trump came out of the lead helicopter and pushed the rest of the people inside and locked the door. He was dancing around and laughing and smiling at what had happened, like it was the best thing ever. He seemed like he was drunk. It was weird. I think he was possessed by a demon. He danced back to his helicopter.
Then the helicopters took off. As he was leaving, Donald Trump looked over the site and had an evil smirk on his face.”
Interpretation:
Trump’s unspoken agenda may be to establish and legitimize government (FEMA) detention camps, which at some point will be used against American citizens.
Author: Michael Fisch
Michael Fisch lives in Idaho with his wife and two daughters. He believes we are living in the final days of this age and looks forward to the return of Jesus Christ, who is coming in glory to rule the earth righteously from Jerusalem. His favorite verse about these final days is Daniel 12:3: “Those who are wise will shine like the bright expanse of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.”
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Matt 11:25 KJV: “… I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and earth, because thou has this these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.”
Thank you dear brother in Christ for sharing your daughter’s prophetic warning dream from the Lord. God bless you and your loved ones ?????
I feel lead to share my dream, I shared on here over a year and a half ago in comments. In my dream we were told of a ball at the White House. Obama made sure we knew we would have to pay $400,000 a plate. We all we running to find that kind of money. We knew if we didn’t we would be killed. (I instantly knew the taxing of the people would be huge) we all managed to get our money together and at the ball Obama and Michelle were the host. They set traps for you. One was if you drank the alcohol they were serving, they took you out back to slaughter you. Then they sent soldiers to me accusing me of drinking. They seem to me to be Russian soldiers. I denied and told them I don’t drink alcohol. They accused me of lying. They took me and my grandson, at the time he was around 4 years old, out back of the White House. The soldiers started burying my grandson in front of me alive. And for some reason my spirit New this was mud mixed with cow dung. My grandson was screaming and they were laughing. I begged them to just kill me and let my grandson go. After he was buried, the soldiers walked away. I looked and my grandson’s hand was popping out of the soil. I grabbed his hand and pulled him to me. I heard many being tortured and screaming. As I was coming out of the dream, I heard God say “It will be like Hitler and Nazi, Germany all over again”. Now looking back on this dream 2 years later, I believe the $400,000 was showing timing on the change over of leadership. Trump has said he won’t take the $400,000 salary from the people. Also the cow dung was about timing as well. Just a few months ago I was doing research on Hitler and found an article where he had a fetish including “dung” , he liked cow dung spread on his niece, that he had sexual relations with. I believe Trump and Obama were changing hands but both in control.
Thanks Tonya Davidson.
The financial collapse of the USA is imminent. Trump in not warning the people, this is allowing a pit to be dug that many Christians will not be able to get out of.
It is said Trump is aware the financial collapse is coming, and is trying to set up a replacement dollar system. His joy could be the implementation of this new system. It is said it will bring down the Federal Reserve System, and Central banks.
But he may not be aware of the severity of the impact on people. Many Christians trust Trump, and will be bewildered by this turn of events. Trump does not know the ramifications of all his decisions and thinks he can handle anything.
Trump may ask for prayer, but may trust himself. Many Christians trust in man first, then cry out to God to deliver them. But sometimes there is no answer if God warned and warned, but they did not listen.
Those that are listening to the Lord and are placing their trust in Jesus, are preparing. It will not be easy for them to get through their own fear to help others when the time comes, as everything will be so overwhelming.
But his word says, that a God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and love.
I wonder if this dream relates to the human caravan as of now and not so much into the future. It makes more sense to me as I think of it in this way.Trump could be feeling glad he has dealt with the problem of the influx of people, some of whom could well be Christian???
If Trump was doing a good thing, then why did the dream end with this, “As he was leaving, Donald Trump looked over the site and had an evil smirk on his face”?
The evil smirk on his face confirms what she saw in the previous scene in which it seemed like “he was possessed by a demon”. I think these parts of her dream would have to be thrown out to make your interpretation work, but I don’t think any of it should be thrown out.
Rowena O,
I think this dream being related to the “human caravan” is a plausible interpretation. Some may not care to admit or believe it but there could very well be many Christians in this caravan. It is important to note that this caravan even if a frustrating event has not broken any U.S. laws as of yet. If they are seeking asylum and they do it legally this is not a crime. If our borders are overwhelmed by asylum seekers, the president could decide to detain them in detention centers while background checks and processing takes place. This is a big deal and continues to set precedence for future events, some of which may take place and originate on U.S. soil in the future.
The demonic activity seen in Trump could be racism which includes many other demons. Many more people are affected by demons of racism than actually know it and its roots run very, very deep in the U.S.. We know from scripture that iniquity(immoral behavior) can be passed to the 3rd and 4th generation in a family. Racism can be very subtle and deceptive and can affect people at the subconscious level. This could be a doorway the enemy uses to begin the persecution of Christians, starting with foreign Christians, all while some people in the church actually support it, even if unwittingly. It’s sick to think about. The devil is always looking for legal ground to accomplish his work and when we freely give him that legal ground it gives him authority to operate in ways he normally would not be able to.
In Jesus name I implore everyone to please check your hearts. Make sure there is no hate in your heart for any human being. If Holy Spirit reveals any hate, remit and renounce it in the name of Jesus. Ask Jesus to break any curse of racism that exists in your family. Bind the spirit of racism and hate in Jesus name on every occurrence and ask for God’s Spirit of love in your life. “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.”
Blessings
I feel impressed to lay some of my thoughts out here.
In my recent post (https://z3news.com/w/beware-day-trouble-approaches/) here, I mentioned that I see patterns in Trump and modern-day America of the world to come.
Well, I believe, in this post, the Lord has shown me some examples from the scriptures, and here they are.
We come across a certain character called Demas in Paul’s epistles. In two of them (Phil. 1:24, Col. 4:14), he is spoken of in good terms, but in 2 Timothy 4:10, Paul writes that Demas has left him, having loved the present world.
Demas, once Paul’s fellow worker in spreading the gospel, it seems, turned away from the gospel due to his love for the world. Trump, in all fairness to him, may have started out well, but he is not immune from the love for this world and its riches corrupting him. If it could happen to a gospel worker in the days of Paul, how much more so to people living now?
Then there is the phrase in the title, “President Trump betraying Christians.” Matthew 24:10 seems to say that at a certain point in time, many will take offense, betray one another, and hate one another. In other words, “Christians will betray Christians.”
The post is about Trump, so that’s definitely something to ponder and pray about, but perhaps there is wisdom in me examining myself to see if I could be the next Demas who will betray Christians.
I’m confused by the negative Trump comments on Z3. I’m also confused by the pro caravan comments. I know Z3 isn’t a political forum but it does play a big part. If you didn’t vote for Trump, did you vote for Hillary? Sanders? I don’t understand how someone can be a Christian and vote Democrat. The Democratic Party is basically a Socialist Party now. I voted for Trump. Does he have flaws? Yes. He is rough around the edges, was a womanizer…but he was the lesser of 2 evils. I don’t worship him. He certainly won’t take me down the wrong path. Just knowing the left and Hollywood hate him, makes me know that my vote was the right decision. I’m not trying to create division, I truly don’t understand and would like an answer.
This is not about left vs right or Democrats vs Republicans. This is not about the way things appear to be or the way any of our leaders are saying things are. This is about each of seeking the heart of God and diligently studying the word of God over every other voice. We must learn to tune out every other voice, unless they confirm what God has already revealed to us. That’s the only safe ground and the only way we can avoid getting caught up in the confusion that is so rampant in the Church. The Bible warns about a great falling away from the faith before the Lord returns (2 Thessalonians 2). We don’t have to be part of it, but as long as we hold on tightly to what we think we know, we will not be able to hear what God is warning us to avoid.
@ James Bailey: Truth & well said. ?? Amen dear brother! ????
The Bible also warns against trusting human princes…
Hmmm . . . interesting.
John 2:24, But Jesus didn’t trust them, because he knew human nature.NLT
23While He was in Jerusalem at the Passover Feast, many people saw the signs He was doing and believed in His name. 24But Jesus did not entrust Himself to them, for He knew all men. 25He did not need any testimony about man, for He knew what was in a man.…Berean Translation
Yeshua didn’t put His trust in man either, nor should we.
Last election it was either Hillary or Trump. An already evil nation gets evil people to lead it. We are required to pray, and knowing the days are evil to prepare for what is coming.
I should have said to prepare for what is already here.
Drunk with the blood of saints.I think many christians are becoming cosy with the Roman Catholic church and perhapes Trump is also.Many evangelicals are meeting with the pope when they should know better.This is called the eccumenical movement and its from the pit of hell.Perhapes thats why the christians in the dream are confussed because they have been caught.satan is using the eccumenical movement to draw many christians into the final one world religion.Maybe thats why trump,in the dream,looks happy because he is one of them.did he not have his picture taken with pope Francis?Just a thought.
Hi James,
It’s obvious by now that there are only a few believers on Z3, and in the body of Christ in general, that have heard the truth as revealed by the Holy Spirit these past couple of years regarding Donald Trump. You’re fighting an uphill battle, swimming against the current, etc, when you tell the truth about what Trump was really put into office to accomplish and who he really is. The vast majority of Christians simply cannot receive it, and they immediately go into denial/accusation mode to protect their cherished hopes and beliefs about this man. They have a tendency to re-interpret other people’s dreams and prophecies to fit a positive narrative about Trump, or dismiss truthful revelations in favor of hearing what their itching ears prefer to hear. It’s sad and frustrating, but there’s comfort in knowing that just like the enemy has his elitist 1% so does God have His own remnant whom He has called and to whom He has revealed the deeper truths. Even among Christians, maybe especially among Christians, there are the masses…and then there is the remnant. Those who love the truth for the sake of truth, no matter what it looks like, and who reject the convenient lie no matter how many people believe it. In many ways Trump is a more diabolical and effective deception than Obama, because he pretends to be a Christian and a conservative. He in fact is nothing of the sort. I don’t know if he fully realizes what he is doing (I suspect not), because his psychological profile of being a narcissist and a simpleton makes him a very easy man to control by those who are more sophisticated and competent than him and who are far more devious (like all the Goldman Sachs bankers he has surrounded himself with in his administration, as well as many people who have deep state and intelligence community ties). But in the end it doesn’t matter how much he really knows. All that matters is who he really is and what he is really accomplishing, which will be revealed at the end of his term as having been one of the most destructive presidencies to the interests of America and to conservative Christians. Thank you for what you do on Z3. Keep up the good work and keep your hand to the plow. Be blessed.
Thanks Derek S.
Derek, so I take it you are voting for the Democratic Party even by not voting for the Republican Party because you prefer Obama’s legacy over your suspicions of Trump? Trump is a Cyrus and not a David. However, if your choice to vote was for Saul or David, and you knew already that David would sin with Bathsheba and also try to count the number of Israelites and cause a plague and death of thousands of them, would you then vote for Saul? Judge like Solomon, man.
Marcio…you sound like you’re locked in that prison of left/right or Democrat/Republican and so you assume I’m also locked in there with you. I am not. Obama is the antichrist and therefore knowingly and willingly evil. Trump is a narcissistic simpleton who is being manipulated and directed into whatever direction his handlers want him to go. I no longer vote. It’s like trying to vote in Sodom and Gomorrah…all the choices are bad ones. The best solution is to pray and leave the place behind and never look back. Which I have done. I left the US four years ago and will not be returning.
Derek, God bless you for leaving Sodom and Gomorrah, but what about those still here? So your solution for us is to not vote. Then for the Arizona Christians, in your view, stay home as the Democratic nominee Kyrsten Synema is on the verge of winning the Senate race. She is for the Obama agenda and has summoned the support of declared witches.
https://observer.com/2018/10/arizona-congresswoman-kyrsten-sinema-witchcraft-iraq-war/
Marcio…you are bound to do what the Holy Spirit convicts you to do so that you are not found to have sinned against your conscience. I have done the same. I’m not counseling everyone to leave, nor am I counseling everyone to stop voting. That was my own personal calling and conviction. What you do is between you and the Lord, because only you and He truly know what He has placed on your heart to do.
I am only counseling those to whom the Lord has already spoken about these things and placed on their hearts to get out of the USA before 2021. For those who do not have eyes to see or ears to hear this, perhaps their calling is different from my own. The body of Christ has many parts, all working in their own way and doing what they are called to do. Many functions, many destinies, many callings…but still one body. Let’s give each other the freedom in the Holy Spirit to pursue our individual callings without trying to force others to think and/or act as we do, or to condemn them for having a different calling or destiny than our own. Each one sees and understands as he or she is given to see and understand from the Lord.
Derek, I have no problem with you leaving the U.S. or not voting from there, but your situation does not apply to those Christians who are still here. We are still under a God given democracy in which we have the duty to vote. When you promote an Obama AND Trump animosity with a position of a no vote, that doesn’t help us when the reason we have had a reprieve WAS because Christians prayed and voted for Trump. An American Christian here who does not vote, although being able to, IS a de facto vote for a globalist, communist, Satanic agenda. Fence sitting for Christians here is not an acceptable option. May God keep you safe in your journey. For some Christians still here:
“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.”
Revelation 3:15-17 NKJV
“Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.”
James 4:17
Marcio…I won’t comment further so as not to belabor this discussion. I will end it by stating that Trump is part and parcel of the globalist, communist, Satanic agenda. He is simply from the right hand path as opposed to the left hand path. They fund and use both sides to further their agenda. It’s like a political pendulum that swings back and forth and incrementally furthers the Satanic one world agenda. Both sides are cold…there is no “hot” side remaining to American believers. It’s all over but the crying at this point, sadly.
Marcio Ferez Jr. : You said “..An American Christian here who does not vote, but is able to, Is a de facto vote for a globalist, communist, satanic agenda. “
Dear brother Marcio, Well, I’m here in America & am a Christian… and did NOT vote as I felt led by the Holy Spirit not to. The selection of President has already been decided for us. I can assure you that I am definitely not a globalist, communist, nor do I support any satanic agenda. ?
Blessings to you and all in Christ Jesus ??✝️?
I did not vote either. Do I vote for the support of abortion or LGBT or do I vote for the support of dividing Jerusalem or giving all glory to oneself?
What I will not do is being pulled into this finger pointing, animosity generating agenda.
The bible doesn’t say not voting is a sin, so I won’t say it’s right or wrong. Maybe God wants some to vote and some not to vote, who knows, and that’s for God to judge.
Hi Marcio,
Does God require the vote of MAN, that He may accomplish His work?
He does NOT, but far too many believe that a vote count to one direction or the other, is what will somehow ALLOW HIM TO ACCOMPLISH HIS WORK! (of course that means to far too many, doing what will bring them the easiest path – their desires, even though Bible prophecy clearly shows us that ultimately that is not going to be the result. Fulfillment of it must and will happen)
Man was made for God, not God made for man. Does the clay say to the potter “I think you need to listen to me or you’re gonna make a huge mistake in your design?
I love you Marcio and know that you follow the Lord with all of your heart. But, this appears to be an area which has escaped Godly understanding.
Dear Christina, Ken, and Deborah,
I have to admit my understanding of rampant evil in both U.S. political parties has grown since 2018. With that said, vote your conscience or don’t vote your conscience. For me, the evils of the Democratic Party FAR OUTWAY the evils of the Republican party. I just could not sit by and let the baby grinding political party continue in power. I need not overemphasize how communist and anarchist they are with unlawful widespread balloting that the evidence is coming out. However, if in your conscience you believe the LORD is guiding you for a no vote, then God bless you. I wish not to get into the right vs left, vote or no vote argument among Christians that tend to divide us for reasons that concern government of this world and not God’s kingdom to come.
Hi Marcio,
I know your heart, for you show it all of the time, so was very surprised by what I read! I had not realized that your last post on this was from 2018
Yes we’ve seen and learned much in those short years. I have to say, its impossible to know how much of what we’ve been “shown” about both parties is likely a lie, trying to portray one as nearly angelic and the other as fully demonic. If we’re supposed to see either party in the “appropriate light”, that is what we’ll be bombarded with through various forms of media. Artificial intelligence is programmed to show us what has been determined by the “powers that be”, that we should believe (thus so any articles start with “this is what YOU need to know!” – be it about how to boil water or who is evil and who is not in politics).
Further, they can and do actually have a way to make it appear that a person is saying something different than they are. This could be why so many of Trump’s comments seem disjointed to the point of fully non-sensical one moment, then he delivers a strong speech the next. Here’s a link about that technology, there’s a video in it which shows the technology in action.. https://www.information-age.com/ethics-ai-123482437/
I couldn’t agree more regarding your observations about the democratic leaders, however there is so much fake stuff everywhere that the only thing we can truly be absolutely sure of in our time is the TRUTH-JESUS!
Thank you and God bless you, Deborah.
Same to you, my brother! You are a blessing Marcio and so appreciated!
Yes,but who COUNTS the votes?
Sinema has actually refused to follow the Soros plan on several different things. Not saying she’s for the Republic.
Washington is chock full of Witches and Warlocks,even amongst the Republicans…
I need to share with you on love that any person that states that they’re the only ones with the truth, and that nobody else can receive the truth because only you have it and that anyone who doesn’t believe in you is simply in denial and that everyone else needs to accept the truth regardless of how difficult it is to receive and that only a person that believes what you do is the true remnant is probably in the most dangerous place they could possibly be in their entire lives. That statement is nothing short of ultimate arrogance and pride. The reason I can state that so confidently is you did not provide one piece of evidence to support your view.
Now I would like to provide one piece of evidence amongst many that your view is not accurate. I cannot remember the last president of the United States who implemented Financial sanctions against a country because that country was holding a Christian Pastor in prison. Donald Trump implemented sanctions against turkey to the point where their currency was hugely devalued till eventually they released the pastor from this dominant Muslim country. I actually can’t think of a better thing that was done by a President in decades. That my friend is hard evidence to support a view.
It sounds like you’ve missed the point here Richard. This is not about Donald Trump. This is about our relationship with God. Are we led by what we see happening on the outside or by the leading of the Holy Spirit in the unseen realm? Are we led by the way things appear to be or by the way God has revealed to us in His word and by His Spirit. And yes, His truths are absolutely the truth, even when it causes others to misunderstand and get confused. It is sad to see so much confusion over what should be such a simple point, but it confirms why the Bible tells us a great falling away from the faith is coming before the Lord returns and why this little girl saw the Christians in that camp were all confused.
I just read an interesting article this week about Turkey in regard to a David wilkerson prophecy I’ve kept an eye on for some time; the prophecy concerns an economic melt down and devaluing of the dollar as multiple countries run on our digital banking system. He said this would all happen after a country in the European/Middle East area defaults on its international loans. Along with that country he saw a domino effect and a South American country went down as well as Mexico in the 2 weeks after the 1st country defaults. And 2 weeks after it all begins the US banks will have to shut down as it will hit our banking system so hard…..and he said there will be 6 months of hell, rioting, the military will have to try to keep rest and no one will be able to pull money from the bank.
So I saw how Turkey and these sanctions could play into this. If you read up Turkey is one of the 4 most at risk in 2018 for defaulting on international loans. So, yet another event that the way things are playing out with Trump, could lead to the melt down here in the USA. It is admirable to fight to release a Christian for sure, but the aftermath of the sanctions may lead Turkey and then the US ….and then the world (since the US dollar is all tied into world trading and currencies) into the worst economic depression of all time.
Then the people who hate Trump and Christians will have that on their minds as they go after believers. The simple lost soul will equate Trump sanctioning Turkey for taking a pastor hostage as the straw that
caused everyone misery and financial meltdown. It won’t be Trump nor Christians fault but it will be the scapegoat and would play a part in Christian hate worldwide.
Here’s one of the articles I was reading; there are more….
https://www.google.com/amp/www.atimes.com/could-turkey-trigger-the-next-global-financial-crisis/amp/
Thank you for reminding me about these prophecies. The financial system will all come down and be destroyed one day and it will be a great thing. Whether or not turkey’s the impetus is neither here nor there. I understand it will be very hard time for the world but the banking cabal must end. I think we have at least 2 more years.
DEREK S. ….. I read a Christian testimony where Jesus told her in a strong voice ”Donald Trump is NOT a Cyrus”. I am British and like a lot of Brits we don’t believe D.T. came to ”save” America but that he is working for the Cabal and fooling a lot of Christians. All my American Christian friends will not accept that D.T. is not a Christian!!! They can’t even see that his promises are false and that he is a liar in the end. I don’t even live in America and yet I and other Brits can see through him.
Hi Jinny…I believe you and your friends are seeing things clearly, whereas most American believers are deceived about Trump. There’s a huge disinformation machine running 24/7 in the US and it has fooled many Christians. Sometimes it takes someone outside the fence to see what is clearly happening. May your perspective spread to many other American believers so that this deception doesn’t catch so many by surprise.
@ Derek S: Amen dear brother in Christ. ???✝️
Is your hope, faith and trust in the One and Triune God? Or is it in the hopes of men who are the opposite sides of the same coin. Discern the difference between easy words and fruit of the Spirit. Both sides will lead us off the path if we are not focused on Jesus Christ completely. We must remain awake and keep our lamps full and wicks trimmed. Time is short and the beast system is here and waiting to proceed once the domino falls. All eyes are on America and “Christians” at this time. When the train derails and the persecution begins in our states, cities, towns and homes, will there be time for us to make it to the wedding supper; or will that door be shut?
Matthew 25:1-13