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Pope Francis Continues Shock and Awe Campaign

February 19, 2016 by Debra Elramey 58 Comments

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“For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” (Matthew 24:24)
Has anyone else noticed that every single day the Pope makes headline news? Some news isn’t worth printing while other news should raise your spiritual antenna to the highest level. Would you call this a newsworthy headline: “Pope Scolds Over-Exuberant Pilgrim after He Makes Him Fall over a Child?” Apparently the Pontiff lost his temper during his visit to Mexico after one of his zealous followers pulled the “Holy Father” toward him and caused him to fall over a child in front of him.
Why would such a story merit news headlines? Could it be because his multitude of followers has put him on a par with God, thinking him holy and just, perfect in all his ways? To these blind souls he is like God on earth, above reproach. Infallible. The fact that he has a temper must have been a shocker.
And now he’s appointed himself God’s judge upon the earth, accusing Donald Trump of not being a Christian. The Pontiff told reporters at NBC, “a person who thinks only about building walls is not Christian.” To which Trump responded, “For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful.”
Rick Wiles at TruNews exposed this hypocrisy in the article, “Mr. Pope, Tear Down That Wall!” with his statement, “If the Pope believes in open borders he should tear down the walls of Vatican city and accept Muslim refugees.”
 
You might not be a Christian if… 
 
If you believe in borders. If you own guns or if you are a weapons manufacturer or dealer. But no worries. You won’t go to hell; you’ll only miss the marriage supper. For the Holy Father has declared that for lost souls “there is no punishment, but the annihilation of that soul…The souls that are annihilated will not take part in the banquet; with the death of the body their journey is finished.”
Aren’t you feeling better now, all you “fundamentalists,” as the Pope calls those who oppose his “ecological conversion”… all you who still live in the dark ages and are “obsessed” with abortion and oppose the redefinition of marriage…  all you capitalists who resist his communist agenda.
The Pontiff treasures his gift from Bolivian President Evo Morales, a “communist crucifix” featuring a hammer and sickle, of which he said, “I understand this work. For me it wasn’t an offense. I carry it with me.” Funny how he hates wealth but lives in the midst of it.
“While surrounding himself with all three, the Pope decries walls, guns and wealth. Show me a lefty and I’ll show you a hypocrite.”
~ Philip Schuyler
The Divided Church
  
I saw the handwriting on the wall when Benedict XVI suddenly resigned, the first Catholic leader to step down since Pope Gregory XII in 1415. While progressives were exhilarated by the new Pope’s political ideologies, old school Catholics became deeply troubled.
Our former neighbors across the street would be among the alarmed, as they strictly adhered to every church rule, even receiving a “parishioner of the year” award for having produced more children than the old woman who lived in the shoe. Though we’ve lost touch now, I wonder what they’d make of the Pope’s latest declaration that “Catholics do not need to breed like rabbits.”
However, some millennials are praising him for his liberal ideas on immigration, the economy, and climate change. Shocking that they don’t realize that he and his globalist cronies in the current regime view climate change as more deadly than terrorists butchering Christians.
 
A Historical Meeting 
 

On 2-15-16 Steve Quayle sent Rick Wiles a photo of that historical meeting in Havana between Pope Francis and the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill of Moscow. This was the first such visit between a pope and patriarch since eastern and western Christianity diverged in the 11th century – the first in a thousand years.

 

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It just so happened that they were both on official visits to Cuba – fancy that. Afterward, they signed some sort of declaration, “a series of initiatives,” according to NPR. Pope Francis, the great ecumenical pusher said, “We spoke as brothers. We have the same baptism…”
Note in Steve Quayle’s  photo what is atop the gold pedestal: a skull and bones beneath the crucifix. Photoshopped or not, what does that image tell you about this historical meeting?
Wonder what that “series of initiatives” entails. And why is Cuba suddenly in the spotlight, with recent visits from the Pope and POTUS? Remember: If you see something suspicious, say something.
 
Pope Francis’ Ecumenical Agenda 
 
The deceived masses, particularly the millennials, sincerely believe that Pope Francis is the man of the hour and is moving the Catholic Church and the whole world in the right direction. They see the big picture. But what does that big picture look like?
Like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqNE-y8nL4

 

In light of Bible prophecy, what role do you see Pope Francis playing on the world stage?  Is he a pawn in the globalist’s hands?

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    Debra Elramey

    Debra Elramey's passion is Jesus Christ, and her vision is to see everyone whose life she touches fall madly in love with Him. She lives in North Carolina with her husband and daughter, where she works as a journalist for God’s kingdom, reporting news as it unfolds and disclosing His revelations. Her work has appeared in numerous publications internationally, in print and online.

    Debra is currently working on a manuscript titled "Higher Education: Learning God’s Ways in the School of Life." She also shares her songs on SoundCloud.

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  1. Ed H says

    May 3, 2016 at 12:58 PM

    Who exactly are all these “religious” people praying too. Allah never died for our sins or was resurrected. Buddha nope. How about the new age lady loving herself how’s that going for her now? The Catholic Church has been deceived for years. Google satanic symbolism in the church you will be shocked what you find. Jesus would not sit down with Buddha or Allah he would rebuke them. I was a Catholic in my youth no one brings a bible or even reads it for that matter. Any of you on here that are Catholic this is not a bash on you but on the church. Do your homework and seek the real Jesus of the bible your eyes will be opened that the pope is only a guy in a Halloween costume.

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  2. James D. Malda says

    February 23, 2016 at 6:38 AM

    Pope Francis is already confirmed the second beast or False Prophet by brother Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj…..here is the link below…………

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZloUU-dB9SE

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  3. Debra says

    February 21, 2016 at 1:40 AM

    @Stephanie, the point was made in this article that Catholics are divided over the pope’s political moves, which many feel aren’t appropriate for a spiritual leader to make. Like James said, we aren’t wrestling against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, against wickedness in high places. There are MANY religions and denominations that have fallen into apostasy, having left their first love. God isn’t interested in religious systems. He only looks at the individual’s heart. But he will be removing a few candlesticks from the churches that have joined ranks with the world system.

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  4. Stephanie says

    February 20, 2016 at 10:21 PM

    I’ve said this in the past, and I’ll say it again. Not all Catholics adore the pope! I have many Catholic friends who question some of the things that he has said. I have often thought of introducing these friends to this site, but hesitate bc of tone and things that are said about Catholics as a whole. I love z3news, but often feel that it is not a friendly place for Catholics whether they like the pope or not. Most of us are citizens of the United States, so does Obama views represent all of us just bc he is President? All I ask is that people don’t stereotype Catholics as fitting in one corrupt, misguided package. I know it is no ones intention to turn people away from this site. Thanks again James for all you do.

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    • James Bailey says

      February 20, 2016 at 11:38 PM

      Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)

      At Z3 we aim to expose the operations of these evil spirits wherever and in whoever they are working. Anyone who fights the same enemy will appreciate that, but anyone who is filled with the same evil spirits will not. We have documented in many posts how Obama and Pope Francis are vessels being used by Satan so everyone can choose whose side they are on. The problem is not the tone of the articles, but the spirit of the readers.

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    • Stella Jackson-Obot says

      March 31, 2016 at 9:21 AM

      Hello Stephanie, I was born and bred a Roman Catholic until 1988 when I got born again at the age of 39 and since then I have not looked back. I can tell you things about that religion that will make your ears tingle. Even now my family members are still in it despite all the evidence I have shown them about the errors of holding their missal above the engraved Word of God. To them, the pope is first and the last and they are so sentimental about it. I cannot go back to the darkness of that religion, never.
      Like James said, it is the spirit of the readers that matter not the contents! Shalom everyone.

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    • Ed H says

      May 3, 2016 at 1:14 PM

      Stephanie bring them here too see. There’s nothing they won’t already know. So my pastor molests a boy. That’s ok he’s human. My pastor tells me atheists will make to heaven. No problem with that theology he’s the pastor he must have heard that from God. My pastor invites other religions to our church and we all hold hands and pray together. No problem there either. Catholics are deceived or just don’t want to see it. There is no excuse. Just the child molestation alone should have made all Catholics go running.

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      • cynthia S says

        September 1, 2017 at 5:13 PM

        Catholics like myself are not deceived. We continue with our Catholic faith because it was instituted by Jesus Christ himself. As for the child molestations, we know more there are also other things that are wrong with the church- the holy spouse of Jesus. We can also decern that satan likes to infiltrate that which is holy and belongs to God. Don’t assume we don’t know what’s going on. Our souls are on the line here. We have our sacraments, rich history, saints, traditions, and most of all, the presense of Jesus in the sacrament of communion. To be honest, in my opinion, we have it all. If anything, we will go underground if more evil infiltrates the church, we wll take our good and holy priests with us. That’s all, I just had to say something on this matter because a lot of Protestants think we do not know what we are doing because of this anti Christ Pope. WE DO.

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  5. Debra says

    February 20, 2016 at 7:23 PM

    *in the paths of righteousness* 🙂

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  6. Francy says

    February 20, 2016 at 6:46 PM

    Thank you Debra for confirming with scripture passages what I have been feeling in my heart. Wow it’s amazing how God works, I feel each and everyday I’m finding a new puzzle piece towards understanding His Word. Thanks again 🙂

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    • Debra says

      February 20, 2016 at 7:22 PM

      Francy, how wonderful to know that the Lord is your Shepherd and it is HE who is leading you in the paths of righteous. Another good passage of scripture to read and meditate on is John 10. It is powerful!

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  7. Francy says

    February 20, 2016 at 2:55 PM

    *whom

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    • Debra says

      February 20, 2016 at 3:18 PM

      *This is a recurring theme throughout scripture*

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  8. Francy says

    February 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM

    I was born a Catholic and God has in a way been working on me for a long time. Making me despise things that are not His without me even knowing it. I have always felt awkward to treat the Pope as most catholics treat him (including my own mother) who believes he is God’s representative on earth, that he’s like Peter who God left in charge of His church. I am a new born again Christian and I do not pretend to know much, I’m not very knowledgeable of the scriptures, so I’m not sure how truthful is that statement, however, I just feel an uncomfortable feeling in my heart when I see many, even my own relatives treat him as someone who’s above others. There’s too much praising and prayers to someone who’s not God going on. I am not sure if he is really a representative of God on earth, I have prayed to God to help me discern this, but it does not feel right to me that many of my brothers and sisters are placing such faith and trust on a man. There are so many things that do not seem right to me about the Catholic religion – how they cover up their crimes, etc. I mean, just the fact that they actually do crimes is absurd! I mean aren’t they supposed to be an example? I know they justify themselves as being human, anyone can make mistakes etc, which of course, does not make it any better, but it’s also the secrecy in how they deal with their cover-ups that really bothers me. Regardless if Pope Francis is a man of God or not, the point I’m trying to make is that I know in my heart God cannot be pleased by how “a man” is treated above others on earth. I’m open to any suggestions… I know I have a lot to learn.

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    • Debra says

      February 20, 2016 at 3:16 PM

      Francy, the good news is that He is teaching you his ways and giving you revelation of who He is. The Word of Truth, sharper than any 2-edged sword, repeats the theme of not trusting in man.
      Jeremiah 17:5 – Thus saith the LORD; Cursed is the man that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm, and whose heart departs from the LORD.

      Psalm 118:9 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.

      This is recurring themes throughout scripture: the warning NOT to put our trust in man. The Lord has opened your eyes and led you to an understanding of his ways. Stay on the path of righteousness and look to Him and Him alone as your source. He will lead and guide you into all truth. He will be your Shepherd. There is no other. He is he author and finisher of your faith.

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    • Robert Adolph says

      February 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM

      Francy, your foundation must be Jesus Christ. One of His titles is The Word Of God, John 1:1. The Bible, the Word, is our final authority. Not any man. And the Bible interprets itself.

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    • Sandra says

      February 21, 2016 at 10:39 PM

      Here is a great book to point you to the truth.
      http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/

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  9. Robert Adolph says

    February 20, 2016 at 12:48 PM

    One of the areas Dumitru Duduman saw the bombs coming from to hit our nuclear warehouses is Cuba.

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    • Debra says

      February 21, 2016 at 1:57 AM

      @Robert – And the ruling elite are building their doomsday lairs and filling their underground bunkers (at our expense) because they know something is coming. Cuba is too close to home.

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  10. Julia Louise says

    February 20, 2016 at 12:18 PM

    For those who are awake, we see the underlying agenda behind the Pope’s actions. A friend of mine, who is a charismatic Catholic Priest, just announced a six month sabbatical to discern whether or not he is to remain in the Priesthood. He has been reprimanded several times for preaching that certain behaviors are sinful. The Anti-Christ System of the One World Government and the One World Religion is forming right before our eyes. Soon the one true church, those who form the Body of Christ and follow Jesus Christ as their Lord and Messiah, will be driven underground. The Body of Christ needs to be praying and fasting to defeat this Anti-Christ system.
    Revelation 13:11-18 New International Version (NIV) – The Beast out of the Earth
    11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

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    • Debra says

      February 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM

      Julia Louise, if your priest friend is in Christ (and it sounds like he is) the Lord is calling him and others of the remnant to exit the systems of this world, as spoken of in Revelation 18:4 “Then I heard another voice from heaven say, “‘Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues…” Let me agree with you in prayer that your priest friend will receive this revelation.

      “The Anti-Christ System of the One World Government and the One World Religion is forming right before our eyes. Soon the one true church, those who form the Body of Christ and follow Jesus Christ as their Lord and Messiah, will be driven underground.” Yes, I’ve seen this too.

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    • Sandra says

      February 21, 2016 at 10:35 PM

      Here is a book I came across that might help him make up his mind.

      http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/

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  11. Ed Sain says

    February 20, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    “While progressives were exhilarated by the new Pope’s political ideologies, old school Catholics became deeply troubled”.

    Here are Catholic Christians expressing their alarm, regarding this heretic Pope, Francis: remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php . Ann is Roman Catholic and she says depose Francis, as soon as possible; barnhardt.biz .

    By his fruits we will know Francis. Let us pray his fruits are shown to everyone.

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    • Debra says

      February 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM

      @Ed – Interesting titles in these articles: “Pope Francis invokes themes of liberation theology during Mexican visit… Popes February Video Making Al Gore Proud…Pope Francis: A Cure for Neo-Catholitis…”
      I agree with you in prayer that his fruits would be made known to all the remnant, as we know that even the elect will be deceived if possible.

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  12. Wiley Phipps says

    February 20, 2016 at 1:47 AM

    First and Last… Is it a coincidence that Pope Francis is the first Jesuit Pope… and Pope Francis was also predicted to be the last pope by the prophet St. Malachy? The role that the Jesuits have played in politics, re-education, banking, and the NWO is uncanny. Conspiracy theory or truth? Just examine and weigh the historical actions of the Jesuit Order and the current actions of Pope Francis.

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    • Debra says

      February 20, 2016 at 2:22 AM

      No Wiley, I know it’s not accidental that he is the first Jesuit Pope. It was by design. For more than 800 years, scholars have pointed to a prophecy regarding “the last pope,” and of a great apostasy followed by the great tribulation. Many of the “conspiracy theories” are becoming reality.

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  13. Peter says

    February 20, 2016 at 1:20 AM

    Why is there a symbol of the skull and bones on the pedestal that is between them? Is there a hidden message there? We all need to pray into its meaning

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    • Anastasia says

      February 20, 2016 at 5:19 AM

      Please prayerfully consider the explanations provided at the top of the comment thread. It is actually a beautiful symbolic illustration of how Jesus’s death overcame human death–of the life-giving nature of Jesus’s passion and blood. It is biblical too, as Joan points out. Golgotha in the gospels translates to “place of the skull.”

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      • Debra says

        February 20, 2016 at 4:31 PM

        @Anastasia @Joan – I appreciate your detailed explanation of the skull and crossbones symbolism in ancient tradition and the scriptures you shared. There is no question that these are historical facts in church history, nor is there a question of the symbol’s sacred significance. That said, the Luciferians take what may have originally been a holy symbol and pervert it. That is their M.O. You need to understand the schemes of the devil as well as you need to understand church history.

        For instance, the rainbow has always been a sacred symbol of God’s promise, but the LBGT movement has turned it into a symbol of gay pride. Likewise, Luciferians today are using the skull and crossbones as a warning of poison or danger, and it is being used by the ruling elite to signify spiritual power and authority.

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  14. Mike Fisch says

    February 19, 2016 at 11:07 PM

    I thought Trump handled the Pope’s comments about the border very shrewdly. Trump said the Pope probably said those things because the Mexican government presented a one-sided version of the border issue and pushed him to say it. It gave the Pope a way out to save face and avoided a direct confrontation with the Vatican, but also painted the Pope as an unwitting pawn of cunning politicians. Not how you want to be seen as a Pontiff. Trump 1 Pope 0.

    Not that I think national politics really matter at this point, but I enjoy how Trump is exposing the power that be. The Pope is a globalist pushing for the New World Order, and he just got outmaneuvered.

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    • Debra says

      February 19, 2016 at 11:25 PM

      I agree Mike. He is a pawn of cunning politicians and this should be apparent to the world, but I doubt that it is because of the mass blindness.

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      • brian says

        February 20, 2016 at 5:23 AM

        the pope is no pawn debra.

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        • Debra says

          February 20, 2016 at 2:27 PM

          @Brian – Why is that?

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          • brian says

            February 22, 2016 at 12:11 AM

            he knows exactly what he is doing – like Obama. the pope wants Jerusalem and world dominion – he wants to rule from the jewish capital

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  15. Frankenropus says

    February 19, 2016 at 9:12 PM

    The Pope is the little beast. The head of the world church that will help the anti-christ attain power.

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  16. Mathias says

    February 19, 2016 at 8:35 PM

    2328. Prophecy – This world is like a plugged up toilet
    http://prophecy.org.il/2328-prophecy/

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  17. Joan says

    February 19, 2016 at 8:01 PM

    RE:“Pope Scolds Over-Exuberant Pilgrim after He Makes Him Fall over a Child?” Apparently the Pontiff lost his temper during his visit to Mexico after one of his zealous followers pulled the “Holy Father” toward him and caused him to fall over a child in front of him.
    I think that if that happened to me I would react the same way because us OLD folks are easily pulled off balance and it frightens us. So try to put yourself in his position how would you react if this happened to you?
    He was startled and reacted.

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    • James Bailey says

      February 19, 2016 at 8:20 PM

      I agree. He is only human and many of us would react the same way. I think Debra’s point was the story was not even newsworthy to begin with because we should already know he is only human. The surprising thing is millions of his followers see him as something other than human.

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    • Robert Adolph says

      February 20, 2016 at 1:27 PM

      From the abundance of the heart the tongue speaks. I mature Christian leader should have the self discipline, born again spirit, the fruit of the Spirit and renewed mind to always react in love and patience to adversity. Most secular folks can pull this off in public with the world watching every move.

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    • Brenda says

      February 21, 2016 at 1:00 AM

      He is human…………. isn’t he?

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  18. Joan says

    February 19, 2016 at 7:51 PM

    While the powers of this world labeled Him as an earthly king, Jesus, crucified and risen, is the King who conquered sin and death, and whose kingdom will not end.

    Next, the skull and the crossbones has a dual significance. First, Jesus was crucified just outside the old city of Jerusalem at Golgotha, meaning “Skull Place” in Hebrew. The four Gospels all attest to this fact: Matthew 27:33, Mark 16:22, Luke 23:33, and John 19:17. The word “golgotha” is an Aramaic form of the Hebrew word “gulgoleth“, meaning “skull.” The Latin word “calva“, also meaning “skull,” is the root for “Calvary.”

    Secondly, an ancient tradition relates that this spot was also where Adam was buried, hence the depiction of both the skull and crossbones. Today, at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, the Greek Orthodox have a chapel built over the rock of Calvary itself, and the place where the Cross was erected is marked by a silver disk right below the altar. To the right of the altar, there is a crack in the rock. The Gospel of St. Matthew states that when Christ died on the Cross, “the earth quaked, boulders split, tombs opened” (Mt 27:52). The crack continues down to the Chapel of Adam (in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher) where tradition holds Adam was buried and where the Precious Blood of our Lord dripped upon his bones and his skull. Here the blood of Christ flowing from the Sacred Heart of our Lord would have been a stream of redemption, touching all, even Adam himself.

    Christ, the new Adam, obedient to the Heavenly Father’s will unto to death, conquered the sin committed when the first Adam disobeyed God. The gates of heaven closed by the sin of Adam were now opened by the sacrifice of our Lord.

    These two symbols placed on the crucifix help us to remember that our Lord’s sacrifice on the Cross is the greatest act of love God has shown to us. Therefore, each time we gaze upon our crucified Lord we should be moved to say as did St. Francis of Assisi, “We adore You, O Christ, and we praise You, for by Your holy cross You have redeemed the world.”
    http://catholicexchange.com/images-surrounding-the-crucifix

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    • James Bailey says

      February 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM

      Many warnings have been posted here recently about how God is now bringing all of us to a point of decision when we must choose who we trust and what we believe. He is separating the chaff from the wheat. I believe this often comes down to a choice between the traditions of man versus the word of God. The Catholic Church openly puts the authority of the church higher than the authority of God’s word, which opens the door for all sorts of deception. It amazes me to see how far people will go to defend that.

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      • Debra says

        February 20, 2016 at 12:35 AM

        @James – your words brought to mind those of Jesus in Mark 7:13. “Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of God’s word.” Also, I read your posts under “false prophet” and apparently you have seen the handwriting on the wall too, and have been sounding the alarm as you did here: “The scheme of the evil one is for the false prophet to lead multitudes to their eternal destruction, but we still have time to snatch some from his grasp by exposing his lies, praying, and warning people not to follow him.”

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      • Dean says

        February 20, 2016 at 5:42 AM

        “The Catholic Church openly puts the authority of the church higher than the authority of God’s word.”

        I’m a little curious as to how you’ve come to that conclusion.

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        • James Bailey says

          February 20, 2016 at 11:13 AM

          I did not come to that conclusion, the Catholic Church did. Just google it to see the long list of examples.

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        • Mark Shipowick says

          February 20, 2016 at 12:33 PM

          Dean, in the Council of Trent the church officially placed it’s canon law and tradition on par with scripture. This is well known church history and the Roman Catholic church views it as part of its divine legacy – its authority to issue decrees and create laws. This is foundational to the RC understanding of its true identity as the mother church operating under the head of an infallible leader (the doctrine of Papal infallibility was adopted in the 19th century) who sits not merely in Peter’s seat but the seat of Christ. Wikipedia’s Council of Trent article confirms the claim of canon law and tradition as on par with scripture under the subheading “Canon’s and Decrees,” in the last part of the first paragraph.

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          • James Bailey says

            February 20, 2016 at 1:22 PM

            Great answer Mark!

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      • Dean says

        February 20, 2016 at 6:20 AM

        Did Christianity begin with the R.V., or with the A.V., or with the Vulgate?

        No, it began with the body of believers in our Lord, Jesus Christ. From this body of believers, the Church, under the unction of God’s Holy Spirit, came the various works we now call the New Testament.

        “And he said unto them, ‘The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.’ ”

        The written Word of God, infallible, eternal, and unchanging, has been given to us, but apostolic tradition gives the benefit of insight and experience, which is no different from the purpose of modern seminary school. Just simply making the transition from Hebrew and Greek into English is problematic enough.

        “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.”

        Is it “chaff” to imagine the courage and pain of Veronica as she wiped Jesus’s face?

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        • Debra says

          February 20, 2016 at 6:42 PM

          Dean, I wouldn’t liken apostolic tradition to modern seminaries. The early church grew and flourished because they operated by the power of the Holy Spirit, whereas modernism has tried to house-train the Holy Spirit by exalting human intellect and reason over true spiritual wisdom and discernment. As for Veronica, I can’t imagine the woman of compassion who wiped the face of Jesus on his way to Calvary would be considered chaff in the eyes of Christ, our Lord.

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    • Anastasia says

      February 20, 2016 at 5:10 AM

      Yes, this is the Orthodox understanding as well–that is Adam’s skull (death) being redeemed by the life-giving blood and voluntary sacrifice of Jesus Christ. In our Easter prayers, we sing over and over in joyful celebration: “Christ…tramples down death by death and bestows life to those in the tomb”–the first of which, according to tradition, was Adam himself. This inclusion of Adam’s skull in Christ’s passion story is a very old tradition–probably even older than the bible itself, which was, in fact, compiled by the founding saints of the Orthodox Church through intense prayer, fasting, and obedience to the leading of the Holy Spirit.

      Yes, the pope has met with the Orthodox Patriarchs of Constantinople and of Russia, but there is very little real danger of the Orthodox Church capitulating on its differences with Rome. The Orthodox Church authority is widely dissipated between several autonomous churches (Romania, Serbia, Ukraine, Poland, to name a few), all of whose Patriarchs wield the same power as Kirill. They have to be in near unanimous agreement to change the gross doctrinal differences which separate the two churches. That Kirill is likely corrupt and more concerned with the affairs of man than the affairs of God is unfortunate, but he has little power over which direction the greater Orthodox church will take against the challenges of our times.

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      • Debra says

        February 20, 2016 at 7:10 PM

        Anastasia, the pope and patriarchs won’t compromise their church doctrines, I’d agree. But do you see any danger at all in the ecumenicalism/universalism being advanced here? It sounds so good to unite existing religious denominations into a common unity, but it’s all a contrived scheme to deceive the masses. The common philosophy of the age is that all paths lead to God, and one religion is as good as another in getting there. Whoever believes this is under a strong delusion.

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        • Sujit says

          February 28, 2016 at 5:48 AM

          Pope Francis seems to be slowly making bolder and bolder claims, each time mixing a greater amount of falsehood into a smaller amount of truth to ensure his message still remains palatable to his followers. Here is another article where he showcases his true understanding and his mission: http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/pope-francis-to-followers-koran-and-holy-bible-are-the-same/

          Even Ali has posted on her blog on Feb 27 to watch the Vatican.

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          • James Bailey says

            February 28, 2016 at 11:29 AM

            Wow, unbelievable how much darkness and deception is now coming through the Pope. He is filled with the spirit of antichrist! Why should any true believers continue to follow him?

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    • brian says

      February 20, 2016 at 5:25 AM

      there is another story ive heard. its called golgotha because that is the spot or area that david killed and beheaded goliath – hence place of the skull.
      blood dripping on adam dont cut it

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