Presidential Politics Producing Prophetic Perplexities

Donald Trump

There are many different prophetic words about the upcoming Presidential election. Some say Obama will stay in office as our final President. Still others see Obama staying in, but eventually handing it over to Hillary Clinton. Still others say Donald Trump will win. The only outcome I have yet to hear prophesied is Hillary Clinton winning the election outright. So we can at least rule out one outcome and be thankful for that!

How can different people hear from the same God and see different visions of the future? This perplexity already has some Christians ready to throw stones at anyone who called it wrong, but by saying this they are showing their own ignorance of the scriptures.

If fulfillment was the measure of whether or not a word came from God, then Jonah was a false prophet because he warned the people of Ninevah their city would be destroyed in forty days, but it never happened.

1 Now the word of the Lord came to Jonah the second time, saying,
2 “Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you.”
3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three days’ walk.
4 Then Jonah began to go through the city one day’s walk; and he cried out and said, “Yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown.” (Jonah 3:1-4)

Jonah’s prophecy never came to pass because the people repented from their sins, so God relented and did not allow them to be destroyed.

When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it. (Jonah 3:10)

Another example comes from the prophet Isaiah. He prophesied the word of the Lord to King Hezekiah telling him he would not recover from his illness, but would die. Then the Lord changed his mind and healed the king and added fifteen years to his life.

1 In those days Hezekiah became mortally ill. And Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz came to him and said to him, “Thus says the Lord, ‘Set your house in order, for you shall die and not live. ’”
2 Then he turned his face to the wall and prayed to the Lord, saying,
3 “Remember now, O Lord, I beseech You, how I have walked before You in truth and with a whole heart and have done what is good in Your sight.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly.
4 Before Isaiah had gone out of the middle court, the word of the Lord came to him, saying,
5 “Return and say to Hezekiah the leader of My people, ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of your father David, “ I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; behold, I will heal you. On the third day you shall go up to the house of the Lord.
6 I will add fifteen years to your life, and I will deliver you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for My own sake and for My servant David’s sake.”
7 Then Isaiah said, “Take a cake of figs.” And they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered. (2 Kings 20:1-7)

Isaiah’s prophecy of Hezekiah’s death did not come to pass, so does that make him a false prophet? No, of course not. He is one of the greatest prophets who ever lived. He delivered the word God gave him. It was God who changed His mind after the king repented.

So we have two witnesses, Jonah and Isaiah, who both heard words from God that did not come to pass, yet neither of them were false prophets. In addition, we have many other examples of God changing His mind based on the words or actions of His people, including these passages: Exodus 32:9-10, Deuteronomy 9:25-29, Numbers 14:11-23, Numbers 16:20-35, and Amos 7:1-6.

These things are written for our instruction, so we could understand the true nature of prophecy. It cannot be judged solely on whether or not the events came to pass because God has given us a vital role to play in determining what happens in our future.

People don’t like to hear this because they really don’t want Biblical prophecies, they want predictions, but true prophecies are not predictions. What they really want are psychics rather than prophets. They should call the psychic hotline and stop claiming to be Christians.

Psychics are very popular today, just like they were in the days of ancient Israel, because people want insights into the future without having to submit themselves to God or obey His commands. Christians are doing the same thing today with the gift of prophecy, using it only to gain insights into the future without any intention of re-aligning themselves with the will of God through personal repentance or intercession. God calls this practice an abomination.

9 “When you enter the land which the Lord your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations.
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
11 or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 For whoever does these things is detestable to the Lord; and because of these detestable things the Lord your God will drive them out before you.
13 You shall be blameless before the Lord your God.
14 For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do so. (Deuteronomy 18:9-14)

Verse 13 reveals what pleases God. He wants His people to be blameless before Him. He is pleased when we seek first to be right with Him, to walk uprightly before Him, because this means He is at the center of our lives, truly reigning as God.

31 Do not worry then, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear for clothing?’
32 For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things.
33 But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. (Matthew 6:31-33)

True prophecy is a tool to help us get re-aligned with God, to get right with Him, so the scheme of the enemy cannot prosper against us and the will of God can prevail in our lives. Righteousness is the ultimate goal of every true prophecy.

Every word spoken by God is always for the advancement of His kingdom, for the establishment of His will in heaven and earth. His power and dominion are released through His words, including the written word and the prophetic word. This is how His kingdom operates, which He demonstrated when He spoke the world into existence in six days. His words are released to His prophets for the same purpose of advancing His kingdom, but the fulfillment is not automatic because God has given us a free will to choose whether or not to obey Him or align with Him. The prophetic word gives us an opportunity to advance His kingdom if we choose to take action, but if we refuse to cooperate His kingdom will not be advanced and the scheme of the enemy will prosper. He has given us the power to choose life or death, blessings or curses, so we must choose wisely.

If prophetic words were just predictions, the only benefit would be the advancement of our own kingdom, not God’s kingdom, because we would be empowered with greater knowledge without greater dependence on God. That would be counterproductive to God’s plans and purposes for us because without Him we can do nothing. So when we hear a prophetic word, we should be seeking God to understand His ultimate purpose, how He wants us to align more closely with Him through this new information.

Some words are given as warnings of what will happen IF we remain on our current path while others are given to inspire hope in the better plans God has for us, which we can have IF we align ourselves with Him, but whether or not these words come to pass depends on how we react because God has chosen to put the future in our hands. He created us in His image and gave us dominion over the earth.

27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” (Genesis 1:27-28).

Our choices, our prayers, our words, our actions, and even our thoughts will determine what happens in our future.

So when we hear prophecies of terrible destruction, they are not given to torment us or to entertain us, but to call us to action, to cause our faith to rise up so we turn to God and cry out for His mercy, and so we sound the alarm to warn others. If enough people respond properly, disaster can be avoided and the will of God can be done. He does not even require repentance from the whole nation. He only requires His people to repent from their hypocrisy of calling Him Lord without obeying His commands. If enough of His people will repent and cry out to Him, He has promised to heal our land.

If My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:14)

This is not an attempt to diminish the dangers of false prophecies because they are a very real danger, which Jesus warned us about. We must guard against them because they are  surely among us. They are the ones saying all is well, peace and prosperity are here to stay! Their messages require no re-alignments, no repentance, and no changes of any kind, just let the good times roll! They refuse to speak unpleasant, unpopular warnings because they are hirelings who love their power and position more than they love God. Yet their messages are embraced wholeheartedly because they say what we all want to hear. For more on judging false prophecies, please see my previous post, Eight Rules for Radicals.

The people of ancient Israel rejected the true prophets and flocked to the false prophets. We see the same things happening today. Christians are slandering the true prophets by calling them “fear mongers” and “messengers of gloom and doom,” not realizing they are slandering God who sent them with instructions to deliver His words. Then if the warnings are heeded because a remnant repents and judgment is postponed, these same Christians are the first to slander the prophets again by branding them as false prophets. This is the condition of the church today in America.

So who will win the Presidential election? I believe all of the prophetic messages I have heard are from God, even though they are seeing different outcomes. In the one case, God is exposing the scheme of the devil, which is for Obama to usurp America’s Constitutional process by remaining in office and eventually handing power over to Hillary Clinton. I would not be surprised to see Obama attempting something like that, but those schemes will only succeed if we allow them to. On the other hand, I believe God has offered us Donald Trump as an alternative, which would postpone judgment (at least the worst parts of it) giving us another opportunity to get it right and a window of time to bring in the great end-time harvest. God has left it up to us to decide.

James Bailey

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Mike R
Mike R
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August 1, 2016 9:34 PM

With this logic I can “prophesize” every day in any decade of any civilization and claim to be a successful prophet. Repent or be destroyed… At what point do we hold “prophets” accountable????? If you can’t call the future right, especially with certain specifics then you are not talking from God but merely speculating or worse. Too many people are claiming to be hearing from heaven but are preaching/spreading lies. It is time to start sifting the wheat from the chafe.

savedjon
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August 2, 2016 11:45 AM

Mike R this is EXACTLY what bothers me….We have had revelations, visons, dreams trance’s you name it… with completely different contradicting “words from the Lord”. Many of these “words” are accompanied by Jesus, Angels and Indian Chiefs and other “messengers”. If an Angel gives a word to one that Obama is going to stay in the white house and another Angel gives another a “word” that Trump is going to be president obviously both of the prophecies can’t be right. The next president is either going to be Trump, Hilary [or as many other were told by angels Obama is going to stay in the white house]. There could only be one outcome.
God wouldn’t give two conflicting “words” because he isn’t the author of confusion. God sees the end from the beginning He doesn’t have to hedge his bets and give all the possible out comes to cover the bases. My question is who are these “angels” that are giving deceptive prophesies? It seems clear to me that the devil is heavily invested in confusing the body of Christ. Lets admit right now folks as Jesus said regarding the end times “even the elect will be deceived”. We need discernment now more than ever… because two thirds of these prophecies are clearly not from God.

1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 1, 2016 11:35 PM

With 28 likes and counting on Mike R’s post, I sense there may be some misunderstanding here, so let me chime in one more time. Mike R, the logic you are referring to is not the same as James B.’s logic. Isaiah and Jonah did not say repent or be destroyed, they just said judgement was coming (with no mention of repentance) and it didn’t come. Here’s a simple answer to know a true prophet, if the nation is in sin a true prophecy will not tickle itching ears by saying all will be well, like James B. said. Rather, it will either say judgement is coming (as in the aforementioned prophets) or that it’s coming unless we repent (as in many other prophets in the Bible). Make sense or do we all need to have further dialogue?

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 1, 2016 10:59 PM

Mike R, the Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth as we read and study the Bible with His discernment. Right now He is telling me (based on His Word and His inner voice) that severe judgement is coming to our nation sooner unless his people repent and intercede. According to the Bible, Mystery Babylon (America) will be destroyed in one hour… So yes, our judgement is coming eventually regardless of our level of repentance and prayer. But at this point the churches prayers could stem the tide of God’s judgement for a season. Glenda Jackson even said God told her judgement would come (by this election) unless the church became the house of prayer God called us to be. The Word says we prophecy in part and I believe this could partly mean what James Bailey is referring to in this post. Prophecies will cease but love will have the final say.

DeeVC
DeeVC
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August 1, 2016 10:37 PM

With all due respect, God is no the author of confusion nor does He lie. Could it be that some are wrong and deceived. Everyone is not correct and every single prophecy is not of God. God does not play games!. Yes we are all accountable and we must live right before the Lord while we press and pray our way through. Nevertheless every prophecy is not always of the Lord. Soon we’ll see who was truly God’s prophets and who was not. November, God willing is not to far off. When one reads the bible, the true prophets of God did not have to bend and stretch words to try and accommodate the flow/issues of the moment. Sorry to sound crass, it is just simply to many voices speaking who are not speaking in sync. God is of truth, holiness, decency and order!!

Mike R
Mike R
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August 1, 2016 10:17 PM

I’m sure you mean well but your statement “I believe all of the prophetic messages I have heard are from God” is a bit troubling. Any time in history a message of repentance is a good solid one. The problem now is too many people are claiming to be hearing from God and claiming to be prophets. In the 3 thousand + year history of the bible we have maybe 20 or 30 prophets — because the rest were proven false. The end is definitely nearer but the divergence of messages should be questioned. Maybe I’m being Thomas here but am thinking 90% of the “prophetic messages” are man made or satan inspired. At some point “prophets” need to be held accountable.

Kyle S
Kyle S
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August 1, 2016 11:52 PM
Mike, there are hundreds of prophets in the Bible. Most of whom we don’t know their names (1 Sam 1:10ff, 1 Kings 18:4), some of whom we know only a little about them 1 Kings 1:11ff, some we know their names and only a little of what they said: 2 Sam 12, and a few we have a lot of what they said (Elijah, Elisha) and some were literary prophets who’s words were transcribed (Jer 36:4). In the new testament, we see the same – Anna, and then in Acts there were many prophets (Paul is numbered among them Acts 13:1), Acts 11:27 talks about a group from Antioch triggering the collection for the famine, we see Phillip’s four daughters were prophetesses – Acts 21:9, we read that Timothy was prophesied over. Prophet is the only spiritual gift to make all the lists (Romans 12, 1 Cor 12, Eph 4) and the church was so full of them Paul had to write instructions in the above books and devote a whole chapter on how to do it in 1 Cor 14. This did not stop, there is no place in scripture where it says this stopped. Instead it says in 1 Cor 13 that today we prophecy in part. And in 1 Cor 14 we read that the spirit of the prophets are subject to the other prophets. We are to weigh what is said, and in 1 Thess 5 we are not to quench the Spirit nor despise prophetic utterances but are to examine carefully what is said. Paul states that we are to earnestly desire to prophecy, not avoid it and that his instructions to the church on prophecy are a COMMAND FROM THE LORD (1 Cor 14:37, and note v 38). So sorry Mike, your statement above… Read more »
Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 2, 2016 12:24 AM

Good verses, Kyle. Mike, maybe you are not misunderstanding James afterall. Maybe you need to seek discernment on this and take a look at those verses Kyle pointed out. Why? Because confusion results when the Word is not your compass. I’m not accusing you, but rather encouraging you, brother! Let iron sharpen iron and seek The Lord on all this. Blessings.

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 1, 2016 11:43 PM

Oh come on now Mike R., now you’re just trying to make James look bad;-) He of course meant the prophecies he has heard that lined up with the discernment of the Holy Spirit, not the false prophecies floating about.

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 1, 2016 11:51 PM

.. And those prophecies that line up with the word, of course:-) James, when can I quit my full time job and become a website admin for you to help moderate?! I don’t think I’ve ever misunderstood anything you’ve said! Lol, but seriously, I know it can be easy to misunderstand, that’s why I always read carefully, but it helps that I know your heart (after reading your posts for years now!).

Matthew Weiler
Matthew Weiler
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August 4, 2016 10:57 AM

20 or 30 prophets?? lol… That’s quite a statement implying you are privy to who is a prophet and who isn’t over the last 3 thousand years… Are you kidding?? I’m curious, what is your criteria for considering someone a false prophet?? Only God knows all who speak for him, even with modern means of communication I’m sure there are many ‘hidden’ prophets that have a small circle of influence and are known by few. I’ve met a few ppl over the years who don’t have a public platform that walk in more prophetic then you can only dream off ..

Lee
Lee
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August 1, 2016 9:31 PM

So who do we believe to be our “modern day” phophets? Simply put, I want to keep score. I want to put them to the test, and that test is ACCURACY. Isn’t that what the bible also teaches us?

I think you make many wise comments in your post, but your last paragraph gets me scratching my head.

So who will win the Presidential election? I believe all of the prophetic messages I have heard are from God, even though they are seeing different outcomes. In the one case, God is exposing the scheme of the devil, which is for Obama to usurp America’s Constitutional process by remaining in office and eventually handing power over to Hillary Clinton. I would not be surprised to see Obama attempting something like that, but those schemes will only succeed if we allow them to. On the other hand, I believe God has offered us Donald Trump as an alternative, which would postpone judgment (at least the worst parts of it) giving us another opportunity to get it right and a window of time to bring in the great end-time harvest. God has left it up to us to decide.

So what do you mean by “if we allow them to” when referencing “Obama attempting something like that”? Prayer and repentance or something else? And if we do “pray and repent”, that could be diverted and we’d end up with Mr. Trump? Now, I agree wholeheartedly that we (the Church) and the nation needs to pray and repent. I also think Trump appears to be the less of two evils, but has the potential to do good.

But I cannot reconcile this either/or statement you propose to validate both prophetic messages as being both accurate. I just have to respectfully disagree.

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 1, 2016 11:07 PM

Lee, I encourage you to read Glenda Jackson’s prophecy about this election. He basically told her the judgement would be averted if the church prayed like never before. He also showed her what the judgement would be if we didn’t pray.

Mar R.
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August 1, 2016 11:41 PM

I was getting confused about all the different prophetic words out there so I did what we should all be doing, I went to the Father myself to ask Him to show me what He wanted to show me about this matter. Honestly, I don’t really even care about politics that much, only to the extent that it affects the direction our nation is moving in. God has allowed people in positions of power for various reasons. We should pray His Kingdom come and His will be done.

Anyway, the Lord showed me two different things that seem to say the same thing. First I saw Obama push Hillary and Trump to the sides and moved in front of them both. This was before either Hillary or Trump was nominated as their parties candidates. Just last week I had a similar vision. I saw the globe tear apart or unzip and then two bobble head type figurines of Hillary and Trump stepped out of the globe but then they fell over and their heads broke off. Then I saw a giant head of Obama appear. It was just the head.

Not sure what either of these visions mean. My feeling is that something is going to happen, perhaps on a global scale, that will cause Obama to have to intervene and stay in office. I do think that maybe either Trump or Hillary will be elected but then before they the office something might interfere with that, but that is just based on the picture/vision I saw. But Glenda Jackson’s prophetic message rang true to me when I heard it.

We certainly have plenty to pray for.

S Renee
S Renee
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August 2, 2016 11:43 AM

Your vision sounds like a warning and indicates that there is still a lot of prayer needed. It does not have to come to pass if the Church continues to pray and repent on behalf of our nation.

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 2, 2016 12:26 AM

Yes thank you Mar R. Your vision lines up with Obama being the Antichrist, that’s for sure.

Mar R.
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August 2, 2016 11:40 AM

Well, I am not sure if my visions confirm Obama as the Antichrist. Time will tell and for those that are seeking truth, the Spirit will reveal more as needed. But it certainly has caused me to be more alert and prayerful. I also have the sense that the election results will be irrelevant long term based on what the Lord is showing me. Granted, I have felt led to pray more for God’s Kingdom to come and personally that I will be humble and open to what He wills to do.

Denise Jackson
Denise Jackson
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August 2, 2016 10:28 AM
If I may be permitted, I would like to share some thoughts. What I would like to submit, I preface by saying I submit humbly and with the fear of the LORD. It is my hope that my passion for truth not be mistaken for highmindedness. With that.. I notice no one seems to have read Deuteronomy 18:22, which says “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.” This verse does not leave any wiggle room. We should never have to make circumstances “fit” a prophecy, nor should we ever justify why they don’t match up. We have read many things from many people claiming to have heard from God. Case in point: The upcoming election. I believe we should be very suspect when one person says Trump will win and another says Hillary will win, and then a third says Obama will remain in office. Two of these people are not hearing from God. God is not the author of confusion. God is consistent. He never changes. If he is telling one person Trump is going to win, then he will tell this to all of his prophets. I see an example from God’s word, which to me shows God is consistent and doesn’t change his edict. In Exodus, we see God speaking to Pharaoh through Moses. We all know the account. He sends various plagues on Egypt, but the point I’m trying to make is when he said he was going to send frogs, he sent frogs. He didn’t then make Moses look the fool by sending flies. Moses prophesied before Pharaoh. If… Read more »
Lee
Lee
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August 2, 2016 2:37 PM

Thanks Denise, for a well thought out, researched and reasoned response to the issues of prophecy at hand here. And I fully agree with you.

john
john
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August 20, 2016 1:43 PM

you sir are right may God get the glory be ready he IS coming soon
i saw week ago study Habakkuk man walking around a mountain plagues would come out his footprints but there where people in his hand were safe i could not see his face only the of his white hair Abide in Jesus Chirst and he wwill abide in you

Kimberly Kamau
Kimberly Kamau
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August 7, 2016 7:32 AM

Well said Denise, thank you for sharing😊

Martin Semrok
Martin Semrok
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August 3, 2016 5:03 AM

10 wise virgins? Typo?

Denise Jackson
Denise Jackson
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August 4, 2016 5:02 AM

My apologies, Martin. There were only 5 wise virgins; five of them were foolish.

Dean
Dean
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August 2, 2016 1:03 PM

Based upon the numbers, I would say quite a few people have read Deuteronomy 18:22.

Joe
Joe
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August 2, 2016 11:07 AM

Words of wisdom.

Cali
Cali
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August 2, 2016 12:03 AM

I asked the same question and ended up in Jeremiah 23.
That said, i honestly don’t care,why? Because i know what time it is! You know those Blood Moons were not up there just for decoration even tho “nothing” happened last Sept. It will, we have been warned , and warned and warned some more Duduman, Wilkerson, AA Allan and many more Ken Peters..(many having the same warning dreams, visions……)
The NWO is here, Obama said it clearly in his speech in Canada or whatever.
The Bible tells us Matthew24 and so on… there is no stoping this,
He is coming! And things will go down before He does, it’s Bible! It is up to each of us to Repent, really Repent, , America is done. ( for me that was sealed with the Supreme Court ruling on same sex m )
AA Allan’s vision on the Empire state building reminded me of Pastor Benjamin’s “Americas last breath”.
America threw God out of schools out of the Supreme Court out of everything even churches,…they want The Beast and that’s what they will get.
Our job is to Repent and wait for His orders, Soldiers , all for Him and His Glory.
(It’s all about them lost Souls whom He Loves and Bled for<3)
But don't take my word for it, open your eyes! And ears! anyone heard of any wars and rumors of wars lately? Hosea prophecy? Earthquakes? You do know they have everything ready for the Third Temple in Jerusalem…they said it can be up in 6 months..
So about elections, bring it.
I love you Lord<3 Come Lord Jesus!<3

Mike M
Mike M
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August 2, 2016 10:01 AM

I know what you mean Cali. Last summer I believe I heard pretty clearly regarding 3 specific things that were going on at the time that grieved God.
1. Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage
2. US treaty with Iran
3. Videos exposing Planned Parenthood – reminding us of what an abomination abortion is…
We have not turned the tide on any of this. I believe that these things (as well as others) are being held against the US. I am not trying to discount the election, but I sense that there are more foundational things that will determine our fate. Indeed it seems a great shaking is coming, which will cause many to seek the truth. We are already seeing the beginnings of revival if we have eyes to see. Even those at my workplace who have resisted the gospel for many years…now receiving Christ.

1 Corinthians 13:13 Now abide faith, hope and love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

May God bless all the brothers and sisters of the z3 family. Thank you saints for having hearts to dig into all of this, and hearts to really seek the Truth. You are all a blessing.

Cali
Cali
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August 2, 2016 2:26 PM

Amen Mike, on all three points, totally, could not agree with you more.
ISRAEl<3!!! Jerusalem<3
Blessings

Jemba
Jemba
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August 1, 2016 10:47 PM
Unfortunately, we live in a time where everyone is right in their owns eyes, similar to Judges 21 where everyone did what was right in their eyes. There has never been a period of less respect for elders, parents, teachers, etc. Unfortunately, this is where our culture seeps into church culture as well. Everyone who has ever stepped foot in a church believes they are an expert on all things christianity related and these are the types of people who are quick to post comments on youtube or other forums in being quick to accuse people of being false teachers, prophets, etc. Even a quick glance on youtube of our most respected christian leaders like Billy Graham and you’ll see tons of so called christians even quoting the bible calling him a false teacher. The truth is, VERY few christians are educated on prophecy. Their false rationale is if they don’t see it in their churches, then it false. You will find that most people who are critical of prophecy are people who have never been in a prophetic service, environment, received a prophetic word, or even prophesied. What most people don’t realize is prophetic words are coded by God many times so that only certain people whose hearts are open to God can understand them. Jesus said, behold I come back very soon. Before the first century was over, some were already calling him a false prophet. Malachi prophesied that God would send prophet Elijah right before the Mesiah. God happened to reveal to the disciples that John the Baptist was the prophesied Elijah. But according to the other ‘christian experts’ of the day, they would chalk up Malachi as another false prophet. So there’s definitely a lot of ignorance out there. But be that as it may, whether… Read more »
Sisterann
Sisterann
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August 1, 2016 10:10 PM

Just a note for the babes in Christ. The PROPHECY were delayed, not cancelled. Nivenah was destroyed ( Nahum 3:19) and Hezekiah did die.
Repentance brought reprieve.
The Word is balanced If We, turn from our wicked ways, humble ourselves, pray – THEN God will honor the act of repentance.

Geoff Krieger
Geoff Krieger
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August 2, 2016 12:10 AM

Such is the outcome I pray for America. That our days of relative peace would be lengthened before the inevitable judgement written in God’s word.

Julia Louise
Julia Louise
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August 1, 2016 10:04 PM

James, thank you for this post. Yes, two potential outcomes for this election have been given through various prophets, and “God has left it up to us to decide.” We just need to keep pressing on in prayer, repentance and fasting for our nation.

Jeff Byerly
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August 2, 2016 9:36 AM

As for me personally The LORD has told me to stop warning America as of July 1st. There are more than enough warning messages of the coming judgment and they have not been heeded for the most part. The judgment will now come but we must pray for Him to have mercy in the judgment and to stay close to Him so that His people are protected under the shadow of His wings. Right now His judgment is seen by Him lifting His hand of protection, the enemy is mote than happy to do the rest. When the Fathers wrath is poured out His own will be taken out of the way, because He has poured out the wrath meant for us on Jesus and to everyone who accepts His sacrifice and trustsin, clings toand relys on Him.
Unless drastic repentance is done very soon the judgment will continue and America will be completely destroyed.

Mar R.
Member
August 2, 2016 11:46 AM

My prayers have recently changed as well. It feels like my prayers are now more for the Kingdom of God to come in power and authority! I am able to pray for personal humility and repentance, and certainly have felt led to pray for that more than ever with weeping as I read the Word! But praying that the nation as a whole repents doesn’t seem to be in line with what the Spirit is leading me to pray. That seems strange, but could it be perhaps that the time of warning is ending? I am able to pray for mercy though. God have mercy in the judgement that is to come!

Jeff Byerly
Member
August 2, 2016 5:18 PM

Amen to that! This is what we must be praying!
Thank you and May God Bless You with His manifest presence!

Mar R.
Member
August 2, 2016 11:56 AM

Also, in regards to His people being protected, I had a vision a week ago that I already shared on here. I saw Jesus seated at a banquet table. There were many of us seated with him. It was an amazing meal and we were just having the most wonderful time dining with Him! Best banquet ever! But then a clear translucent dome covered the banquet table. I could still see what was happening outside though and it was not pleasant! It was like a horror film with blood and carnage and suffering. I looked at Jesus and He appeared grieved but He communicated to me (without words which seems strange) that they had a choice to be with Him at the banquet and chose not to come. I guess we all have the choice to humble ourselves. I have had other visions of Him clothing me in white, I guess in preparation for the banquet? Please clothe us Jesus!

As the banquet progressed the dome was changed and became opaque and we could no longer see the destruction on the outside.

Thank you Jesus for showing me this picture. We can have so much peace in the midst of destruction as long as we are under the shadow of your wings!

Ken Roberts
Ken Roberts
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August 2, 2016 9:50 PM

Amen, Jeff.

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