Here is another confirmation we are getting close to another big drop in the stock market. Yesterday, a visitor to this site named Edward shared the following prophetic dream.
I had a dream where men were trying to pull a very big rock (the size of a small car) up from the 15 floor to the 18 floor. The rope went up to a pulley that had MAY written above it. They had no problem going from 15 to 16 to 17, but when they got close to 18 some of the men lost their grip and the rest of the men could not hold the weight of the big rock and it fell back to the 15th floor and broke into pieces.
Also, last week just before I woke up I heard, “The crash is close.”
Carl Chilian provided the following interpretation.
That’s an important dream. It’s a picture of the DJIA since August, which is the 15th floor. The August low was 15,370. Since then the Dow has been climbing past the 16th and 17th floors. In your dream they lose their grip as it approaches the 18th floor. We’re there this week.
Today we got the closest with an intra-day price of 17,977. The “May” you saw over the pulley is the all-time-high 18,232. The rock falls back down to the 15th floor. It makes sense that there would be a bounce in the market at a previous important low, so maybe we see a bounce around 15,370.
I believe the word Edward heard telling him the crash is close confirms Carl’s interpretation of the dream. I also believe it is significant the rock broke into pieces after falling back down to the 15th floor. That would make it impossible to hoist it back up again, which means this drop will hold and set the stage for further moves to the downside.
Although I don’t know Edward, I am sharing his dream because it confirms other revelations received by several people, including the dreams I shared in my previous post, Markets Moving into Fast Reverse and Crashing.
It also confirms what I saw in a dream on March 1 2015 in which I saw President Obama authorizing $1.2 billion in military aid. I saw Obama’s actions would mark a turning point in the markets. I saw an inverse ETF called FAZ started moving up from that point forward, which ended it’s long-term downward trend and marked the beginning of downward movement in the stock market. That event was not the big crash, just a turning point prior to the big crash. Based on what I saw, the markets turned immediately when Obama authorized aid. In the dream it seemed like it all happened on the same day. I shared the details of that dream in my previous post, The Event Before the Event.
So we could see President Obama authorizing $1.2 billion in military aid followed by a drop in the stock market back down to about 15,000, similar to what happened in August. However, this time there would be no recovery. Instead, the drop would set the stage for a bigger crash coming soon afterwards. I shared the details of the bigger crash in my previous post, Warning: Sudden Economic Collapse Coming in 2015.
The stock market is now very close to the 18,000 resistance level identified in Edward’s dream, which means this could be a good time to buy put options or inverse ETF’s.
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Weather, great comment on this original post. I’ve also been thinking about reviewing this for a while but couldn’t remember under which post it was titled under. The only other variable I’m wondering how it would play out is the sequence. In our most updated understanding, we don’t have it dropping down from 17,900 to the 15,000s directly. Rather we have it dropping from 17,900 to around 16,900 – 17,100 and then retracing back up 75% to about 17,600 then dropping to 15,000. But it also possible God was just talking about going from the high of 17,900 down to 15,000 and perhaps didn’t feel it necessary to include the intermediary graph that James so.
Can I post something regarding how much stock market might go down. But it’s only my guess. When I was drifting to sleep I kept wondering about stock market and I saw those numbers 30 and 80. I was wondering what those two numbers mean. The two stocks I hold is TVIX and UVXY. It is possible that Dow does go to 15,200 in next couple of weeks then goes back up about 75%. Well, when it goes back up 75% Dow will be around 17,000 and UVXY will be around $30, then it goes down again and the next target for UVXY will be 80 dollars per share. I’m not totally sure but I’ll keep those two number in my head.
Time will tell, but I am not expecting to see 15,200 until after the crash begins on April 25.
Boo ya! The month of May…… and we thought it was just indicating the all time high of 2015, when all along, God was naming the month. This May it crashes down to the 15th floor. God is blowing some head gaskets here…..lol….. and reminding us. Look at what this dream indicates, that we don’t quite make it to the 18th floor, but he says when it gets close to 18. To me this is confirmation of the 17,900s. Boom!
I know it has been a while since this prophetic dream was posted. But I was reminded of this prophecy looking at the DOWJI for the month of January 2016. This index went down to 15+ and is now gradually rising with today at 16+. The Fed has this week injected money for investment to push this index up (the rock being pushed up by man’s hands) . We should watch this index from here on…remember the rock had MAY on it. Also the other prophetic words provided by Jim Bailey under this dream have not yet come to past. Let’s keep watch.
God bless!
I believe the reason why it had May written on it was because the market reached its highest level ever in May 2015 at about 18,200. I believe the dream showed how they were trying to prop it back up to that level again. They got very close to 18,000 at the end of December, but it has dropped “like a rock” since then. The dream showed it dropping all the way down to the 15th floor, so I am expecting to see it drop down closer to 15,000.
James, do you think the crash that you saw could be a little after tax season? It just seems to me that the elite would wait to pull the economy that you saw until they get the slaves to pay there tax moneys. BTW, that would be May and it also gives more time for what you saw with the Forex USD/Chf going to 1.35 down then back up. Also I just read where a record number of investers are hedging the markets so that would be a good reason for the powers that be to creat a manipulated rally to drive them out before the real downward starts and would help drive up the dollar which you saw. Just a thought.
I am watching for the signs I was shown. Beyond that I would only be speculating.
Any idea on what the rock broke to pieces mean after it fell to 15th floor?
My guess is that means they will not be able to hoist it back up again.
I could be wrong here but I feel like the rock crashing at the 15th floor doesn’t mean that its just going to reach the 15000s and stop but could be a market crash once the previous lows are tested and break. At that point you could see a complete free fall. Thoughts on that?
Eventually, we will go far below 15,000, but I was shown two signs to watch for that would precede the big crash and neither have happened yet, so I am still watching and waiting for them.
The first sign would be increased tensions between the American people. We have seen some tensions, but I believe events in the near future will cause significant increases, possibly terrorist attacks.
The second sign would be Obama authorizing $1.2 billion in military aid. I was shown that would be the big turning point when the markets begin to drop.
I believe we are getting closer to seeing these signs because the first part of my dream is already unfolding with the strong dollar causing problems for nations around the world. I believe the dollar is going to continue to strengthen because I saw USD/CHF going up very briefly to 1.35. This will cause increased tensions and problems throughout the world. I saw this represented by men at the U.S. table standing up and refusing to sit back down until they were eventually knocked down, which was the big crash and simultaneous devaluation of the dollar.
Ivan, 36 day turn around was not a dream. I was doing some math algorithms at my work, when I felt that Lord was urging me in my spirit to look at that pattern from July 20 highs. The Dow fall to 15000 is a dream shared by Edward which is proving to be accurate. All glory to Jesus, who reveals things to his servants. Thanks for your appreciation.
sorry Vinny I misunderstood that the 36 day turnaround was from a dream. Still, good work following your urgings from the Lord. It is helping me a lot following that pattern and the dream above about the drop to 15000 or thereabouts.
I had a dream on the early morning of Jan 7th, the same day as yours, Faith. In that dream, I was trying to buy SLV calls (options), and when I saw the ticker, it was 15.72, and realized it was too late to buy. It seemed to be an intra-day value. And, I remember thinking, it was just 13 point something yesterday and jumped more than 2 dollars the next day. The dream then, ended. I was not given the timing of when this happens. Almost a 15% jump on SLV would be unprecedented, and I decided to buy SLV March calls that morning. I found out that I could not make any option purchases as my account was locked out. The next day, Jan 8th (Friday), I called my brokerage, and they said it was locked out of purchasing options, because of the volatility. They said that, they locked my account to get my attention. They wanted to know that if I’m okay with volatility in the market and in my account. When I said okay, they removed the lock on my account, and I was able to purchase SLV March calls.
Vinny If I may, I would stay away from SLV calls. Silver could go parabolic while SLV goes down because it’s nothing more than a paper product backed by nothing. When gold/silver go ballistic it will be because the Comex defaults. Your bet could be right and your chosen instrument be wrong….. The miners will outperform by many multiples.
Jeff, I agree with you about paper backed products. I’m not risking too much on the trade described above. And, I agree about the miners as well.
Vinny, I made a comment about your dream about the 36 day turnaround in the Nasdaq. Great call. Am watching your dream and the fall to 15000 in the Dow. Thanks for sharing your dream and good call.
This had been one of the best calls/ dreams to date. Watching to see how it holds up into dropping into the 15000 area of the Dow.
Weather, I’m glad you brought this article back up again. I find the timing of your post interesting. In the middle of the night last night I had a dream. It was very short. I woke up briefly after it and then fell back asleep. At 4:30am this morning I woke up knowing I had dreamed something but couldn’t remember what. I prayed to God that the Holy Spirit would bring back to my memory what it was. This happens to me once in a while. I forget a dream in the middle of the night then in the early morning I will lay there until H.S. brings it back to me – usually it only takes minutes. However this time I lay there over an hour praying off and on until I remembered. I saw in my dream a large “50%” with a voice saying 50% drop in the stock market. I was shocked! Please take this to the Lord in prayer and if anyone receives a confirmation from the Lord would you please post?
Rahul, I just read your post of 11-16 speculating a drop of up to 50% right before I posted this.
Not sure if anyone’s noticed it or not, but just 7 trading days ago, the Dow was at 17,700. With the 2nd china market crash in 3 days, our Dow is now around 16,700 in pre market. It dropped a whole floor in just 7 days. Some people are looking for the dow to be at 18,000, but falling from 17,700 is close enough for me.
The market is going to crash, there r 2 many economist and prophecy people warning us. This is the biggest bubble in history. I watched the videos by james dale Davidson the one with a sandcastle, and I totally believe him. Also david stockman his November 17 2015 futures now, again I totally agree. The banks r leveraged 80 to 1, in the last crisis they were leveraged 20 to 1. I also have waited years for this crash .God has to allow it to crash or his prophets will lose all crediability. God has been preparing us for the last year telling us it was coming, now is the time let it crash. We need to wake up the people in our nation again, Get close to God because we can not stop the crash any longer.
This seems to have held true so far. We’re back close to that 18 mark again but they seem to be having trouble breaking that barrier. Whats everyone’s thoughts on where we’re at now in regards to how long it can ride that line right below the 18th floor without dropping significantly?
We are close to the crash, I do not know, but the markets may even make a new high before it comes crashing down, but I believe we are right at the door. Only the Lord knows the exact day.
Falling oil prices was common in all stock market crashes. 1920’s, 1980’s, early 2000, 2008 and now here. I feel it is a key indicator.
Dear All,
The crash seems very likely in next 3-4 days and it may go down by up to 50 percent. Dollar is likely to fall alongside. My assumption may be wrong also. Just be prepared. God bless you all.
I prayed on the weekend about what would happen Monday, last night I had a very quick flash during a dream. I was looking at a chart of Wall St and it had gone back up to 860 but was currently now at 840. While thinking about the dream today I had initially thought the numbers were 18600 and 18400, however I cannot honestly say I saw that. I only saw the 860 which could be 17860 also. Regardless, the meaning for me was not to enter another sell order just yet but to wait because its going back up again first.
Thanks Rob I enjoy your posts.
Hi Rob,
May be it was S&P500 which is at 2026.8 at the time of writing? And oil being down 1.42% may be the index will crash sharply.
Carl, in light of now, the isis france attacks, I can’t see the dow ever getting even close to the 18th floor again. We may get a steep drop monday, then the market makers will pin the prices for option expiration time this friday or may rally prices off a monday deep dip. Then it’s onto all the signs for the 25th-27th. Germany is next and I wouldn’t doubt ISIS being the cause of crash in germany, just like the McGeorge dream indicates for the 25th
“…when they got close to 18 some of the men lost their grip and the rest of the men could not hold the weight of the big rock and it fell back to the 15th floor and broke into pieces.”
The closest it got to 18,000 was on November 3. Intraday high of 17,977.85. It’s been falling. Today closed at 17,245.24. A loss of 732.61 points.
I might be putting too much into this, but I thought maybe the 15th thru 18th floors represent also, how much time the US has left from 2015 to 2018 before the ww3 prophecies hit…..hmmmm
Weather the interpretation is related to the economy. Whether the May on the pulley is referring to 2015 or 2016 we will see. I had a conversation with the Lord today and was very thankful for extended grace. Then I spoke to the Lord “so many of your true voices have proclaimed that a crash is coming this year..like Neville Johnson, Terry Bennett, Jonathan Cahn, Rick Wiles, Mena Lee, James Bailey, Jim Bakker.. and many more…Lord you also showed me a collapse is coming this year in 2014 …so if it nothing happens what happens to all credibility?? Many already despise prophetic voices. I was asking the lord….
I never heard Jonathan Cahn say a crash was coming this year. I only heard him share what has happened in the past. I also never heard Neville Johnson say anything about a crash this year. I heard him say he saw the wheels coming off in September, which could have been fulfilled by the slowdown in the distribution industry, which I shared in my previous post, Global Distribution Slowdown Leads to Global Market Crash. Here is a link: https://z3news.com/w/global-distribution-slowdown-leads-global-market-crash/ In any case, the good news is everything is in God’s hands and He is right on time every time.
Amen!
Daniel, thanks for your response!
I want to share a dream I had last night in this dream my dog from my youth jumped on to another dog and they both went down the stairs and the dog from my youth crashed down the stairs and by its cry was very seriously injured this woke me up I was confused as to its meaning then I realised the dog from my youth was a jack russel and the other dog resembles a sheperd dog or stock dog does russel and stock ring any bells
Great dream John! Thanks for sharing.
God has a sense of humor!
Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
weather hope you succeed. I considered options but don’t trust my own judgement on timing. I’ve been expecting crash since 2012 and I’m amazed how market is so manipulated. Each time I think a plunge will occur they pull another trick from their sleeve. If I’d invested in options as I originally intended they would have expired out of the money by now. I did settle on Faz as my prediction on timing is awful. I hope yours is better than mine and I hope you succeed in your investment.
In this highly charged prophetic climate for late november, I favor put options much more than FAZ. With a 3 week option on qqq, bought 10 to 15% out of the money and an equivalent crash like late august we had, I can turn 6 to 8 grand into 1 million dollars. I can’t come close to that with FAZ shares. Options are more risky, but with all the signs to watch, we can be well timed if we know when this fake market is about to crash. With that all important factor of getting some clear timing signs, we are headed into an exciting season. Think of not the money, but what good you could do with it,…. buy bulk food, buy silver, support missionaries, free yourself up from the day job to volunteer to do missions. Its quite exciting to think of the kingdom possibilities…. give thanx!
FAZ has taken a hit because when there is a threat of the fed raising interest rates, thanks do well and make money. Since faz is tied two banks doing bad a rate hike would make faz go down. Due to the great jobs # of 270k jobs gain on friday, this will have the fed leaning strongly to raise rates. Because just a small rate increase would be devastating, due to the trillions in cheap money being borrowed, this would bring the markets down. If all is smooth as honey till mid december, they will hike rates. If there is trouble, it will delay the rate increase. Either way, it looks like an inevitable, that the market goes down. They may prop it up till that sudden time of trouble to get their selves positioned for the drop, but there has to be a correction and what a perfect senario to blame Germany as we are on watch for Nov 25th, from the McGeorge dream/9-13 sign. The other 2 signs on watch are if the dow ends at 17958.26 and then there’s the 15th-18th floor dream, which I put more weight into than the 17958.26 sign watching.
Bever ,
Faz has been getting crushed is there any reason why its so low I think its lower than when the market was at all time highs ?
Today FAZ will go down as if there is no tomorrow.
James what I meant by gold was not T bills backed by gold and I’m probably speculating too much. I think there are a lot of negotiating and backroom deals going on now between USA and China. I tried to get hint, wink any signal from those in know in China but they were purposely tight lipped. The truth is If China wanted to–at any time they could open Shanghai gold exchange and cause gold to be priced by tangible asset(supply/demand) not paper gold. The USA is naked shorting paper gold and keeping gold at artificially low rates to prop up dollars. At any time the Chinese could pull plug on USD but I think they delayed Shanghai opening because a lot of negotiations are taking place now. And chemical factory explosions, take down ($5 trillion) of China stock market and South China Sea threats are part of the USa SIDE negotiations/warnings;.
FYI Americans and Chinese have opposite negotiating techniques. Chinese publicly are polite/respectful but behind scenes tough as tigers negotiating. Americans tend to publicly be loud/threatening but behind scenes act polite/respectful like close friends. So USA is now making a big scene publicly about South China Sea–it catches China offguard as they think things in public should be polite/respectful. Then when USA behind scenes tries to act polite respectful friendly –China will unleash their tiger instincts out of public view and American negotiators won’t understand why they are not acting friendly behind scenes.
But China is in a juggernaut also. On one hand If they open exchange and they own 25-30 thousand tons of gold their $28 trillion in debt goes away. yes I know they reported only 1600 metric tons to IMF but I think that is only central bank gold–they also have two sovereign wealth funds where I think they hold most their gold. But if they open an exchange it will lead to speculation on a gold backed RMB which will hurt their trade as they will have strongest currency. So they are negotiating. This is also why I’m skeptical US Navy in South China sea is really about South China sea as I think it is part of negotiations But I’m probably reading too much between lines
The Nasdaq 100 has been the leader of this market and hit an all time intra-day high yesterday. While I was doing research on the market, the Lord impressed upon me to look at 36 day intervals starting from July 20th, the previous top for Nasdaq 100. From the July 20th top, there has been a market turnaround every 36 days. Nasdaq 100 (intra-day high) on July 20 – 4694.13. 36 days later is Aug 25 (turnaround day). Market made a bottom on Aug 24 (intra-day low) – 3787.23. From Aug 25, 36 days later is Sep 30 (turnaround day). Market made a higher bottom on Sep 29 (intra-day low) – 4053.12, and started rallying. From Sep 30, 36 days later is Nov 5 (turnaround day). Market hit an all-time high on Nov 4 (intra-day high) – 4737.12. I believe the top is going to hold. 36 days from Nov 5 is Dec 11 (turnaround day). Market may hit a temporary bottom on Dec 10.
Thanks for sharing these insights Vinny. That is very interesting! I love hearing how God revealed this pattern to you. It is amazing how these patterns hold up again and again. We just need His help to open our eyes to see these things.
Another obvious point: God is showing that this 18-to-15 plunge will “drop like a rock.” It will be straight down.
I just bought $2,500 of ETF: FAZ this past week.
Direxion Daily Financial Bear 3X ETF (FAZ):
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=FAZ
To me it all fits, Dreams, Bo Polny, interpretations. Polny said November Dow would drop below August lows (same as interpretation above)and though there may be short term “dumb money bounces the long term trend will be down after that (Rock broke), and market will never fully recover–Polny predicting 30-50% correction from 3rd week July high(18300 I think) and 90% correction by year end 2016 . It all fits perfectly–good job james, and other posters and thanks be to God for informing us. Piece we don’t have is “event” that will trigger it. James gave us an important marker (defense bill) but that is not the “event”. Anyone remember anything from their dreams that may help us find missing piece of puzzle? i.e. the event trigger? James its Friday here in Asia–didn’t someone post a new vote would occur on defense bill on Thursday your time?
The authorization of $1.2 billion in military aid is the event that I was shown to watch for because it triggers the downward turn in the markets.
James didn’t mean my comment to be disrespectful I love your site and appreciate the time/effort you put into it. I was thinking the $1.2 billion in military aid was more like a sign post, a marker, like a sign that says “dead end ahead” or when Jesus said when you see earthquakes, famines, wars in various places then you will know my return is nigh. He was giving a signpost to look for and that’s what I thought your $1.2 billion was, a sign post that will show how close we are to “the event” . The event I expect to be a cause or catalyst of the crash not a sign post. It could be a lot of things–I was only asking if anyone on site had any revelations on “the event” I do not think it Fed raising interest rates-it could be war or betrayal of Israel, a natural disaster–I don’t know.
Anyway, I have deepest respect, admiration and appreciation of you so I hope you didn’t interpret my comment as implying any disrespect as that was not my intent at all.
No problem at all. I was just trying to explain the $1.2 billion is the sign I was given to watch for, which also causes the downturn in the markets. In my dream I saw both happening on what seemed like the same day. I understand that to mean the military stand we take will make investors very nervous and have an immediate impact on the markets. So it is both a sign and an event all in one.
Thanks James, sometimes when one writes something quickly the tone of intention does not come through with the words and I’m often guilty of that and was hoping I didn’t offend you because I didn’t mean to
I did not even notice anything wrong with the tone so no worries!
I understood what you were saying in regards to a catalyst. If I had to put a finger on the cause, then I would say a commodities crash is coming very soon. I remember an analyst saying to keep an eye on copper and oil prices and to start shorting the stock market when copper falls below $2.25 . Copper prices has fallen precipitously the past few days and stands at 2.263 now. Increasing copper and oil prices are signs of a growing global economy and when prices keep dropping below support levels is a key sign that the global economy is weakening. There are many derivatives dealing with commodities that are held by the world’s biggest banks that add up to many trillions of dollars. Glencore is a company that can start the dominoes to fall if copper prices fall further as I suspect it will going into December. I strongly believe that oil prices will also collapse as we head into December as Iran will put new supplies of oil on to the market along with a strengthening of the U.S. dollar from rate hike talk.
I agree with you Phil. Now Copper has broken $2.25 and oil is moving down fast. I think if oil goes below $40, we will see a crash immediately.
Rahul: Yes, it appears to be inevitable that oil will go into the 30s and possibly 20s with the strength of the U.S. dollar due to today’s job report news along with the expected increase in oil supply by Iran now that the sanctions have been lifted. The US dollar has reached 6 month highs and there is a strong inverse relationship between the US dollar and commodities. Bill Holter says that if interest rates are increased, the markets will close on the third day as global markets will collapse and there will be a worldwide depression. Trillions of dollars worth of derivatives are based on interest rates. You will see a derivatives implosion the likes one has never seen before as markets will collapse globally as contagion will spread rapidly. Emerging markets would default on a rate hike. I do not envy Janet Yellen’s position as the head of the Fed as her decision can be a life or death decision for millions of people around the world. Regardless, of her decision in mid December, I believe that there will be a commodities crash will be the black swan event. Keep an eye on copper and oil prices. I remember seeing an article that Glencore would lose x billions of dollars for every 10% drop in copper prices and the prices are continuing to drop. I can’t remember the exact amount of losses for Glencore but it’s huge.
Phil: Peter Schiff commentary:”The Fed has to talk about raising rates to pretend the whole recovery is real, but they can’t actually raise them,”[Fed Chair Janet Yellen] can’t admit that she can’t raise them because then she’s admitting the whole recovery is a sham and that the policy was a failure.” I think the Bankers are behind every decision made by Yellen, so I don’t think there will be an interest rate hike. In fact some people are expecting a negative interest rate. As also for commodities the Bankers will do whatever possible to keep the prices up so that the markets do not crash. I suspect they did it in August last week with oil prices shot up unexpectedly. Anyone who bought such large quantities would have knowingly done it at loss. We will have look beyond ordinary events to get clues about the market.
Rahul: Yes, I do follow Peter Schiff and know what he has been saying about interest rates. He may be right. Regardless, the the US dollar is strengthening regardless whether interest rates are increased or not which will be bad for commodities. Supply and demand factors do not favor the bankers if they try to hold up commodity prices. I don’t think the bankers have ultimate power in controlling markets. Eventually, they will lose control and are in fact losing control. Martin Armstrong stated that the markets cannot be entirely controlled. Many feel that Mr. Armstrong’s strong persuasive views may sway markets and that many may try to use his views to their advantage. Not so…as even Mr. Armstrong feels that his own views cannot control the market as it will eventually find its natural equilibrium. Glencore tried to control copper prices by closing numerous copper mines and it worked for a day but it then continued on its descent the past several days. No…I don’t think the bankers can control it. The dam will eventually break just like oil prices. OPEC will continue pumping oil wide open as they want to protect their market share just as Russia continues with their record output production and Iran will come onstream along with Iraq with more supply. Demand will slow down even more in January as demand will slow even more for refinery maintenance. There is just too much supply with even less demand. China was the biggest reason for the surge in commodities the past few years and they are definitely slowing down in the industrial and manufacturing sectors. I suspect that many banks will go bankrupt with bad oil loans from hedging and oil company defaults shortly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlgIaZ1r6Wk&feature=em-uploademail web bot report about oil gold silver and dollar devaluation
9-11-01 had the bible symbolism of CHRIST FELLED BABYLON (Revelations 18)…..the OT is a foreshadow of the NT. When OT Israel (NT Church in north america) became wicked+apostate, God called Babylon+Nebuchadnezzar (world empire of sinners and obama) to attack and destroy Israel+Temple(apostate Church). It was aweful, but it cured Israel of idolatry. A Remnant of Jews (Christians) returned to Israel 70 years (7 years Trib) later to rebuild the Temple…….The OT Temple = the NT Church (symbolism). We will rebuild the Church (in the Millenial Reign?).
We should purify ourselves (and NOT hate obama). Obama is evil, but Jesus is calling Obama+sinners to attack+destroy the apostate Church. Let’s be like Daniel, and make the best of a terrible situation. The a/c will use COMMERCE, MILITARY, AND GOVT (WORLD TRADE CENTER, PENTAGON, WHITE HOUSE on 9-11-01) to control the world in the Trib.
The saints are led by the Holy Spirit. The sinners are led and controlled by evil spirits. The sinners are blinded, deceived by satan+demons.
Why are we in the endtimes NOW? Its NOT obama’s fault. Its the Church’s fault. The Church became apostate in recent years. “Resist the Devil and he will flee from you”. The Church quit resisting the devil in recent years. ………. . http://www.bible-codes.org
Good usage of the word breaking, as in a possible bounce. I wonder if the word also means that the rock will break thru the previous low before the bounce, but not break thru 15k? Also another person recently commented about a dream where the market went down and his friend started buying back when everybody was saying don’t buy. Soon after the market recovered some and his friend sold before it fell again and made a lot of money. It seems we have a bounce coming soon after the fall….it would be worth considering what to be buying up as the crash happens. Shalom.
I have another interpretation of this dream, it bore great witness to my spirit. Will hold off sharing for now. Great dream. God bless!
At this point, can you provide a meaningful outline of what you think will happen? Also, are they raising the debt ceiling?
You don’t get anything more meaningful than what he just gave you. The market is about to turn and enter a severe downtrend. Buy FAZ and other inverse funds.
Looking for a bit bigger picture. I think most people here believe that person in the white house is not leaving. Best way to ensure that is to suspend/cancel elections. To me, it seems that Obama is actually working to cause the market and dollar to collapse. The collapse of the US market and dollar is directly tied to Obama’s goal of destroying the US and remaining in Office. If someone has physical silver in an IRA, at what point should they consider having it shipped home? Again, just curious how all this might fit into some bigger picture from now til fall of 2016.
I liquidated my 401K in 2012… I gladly paid the penalty to have it. Get it out if you can. You won’t have to pay the penalty until April 15th 2016. Even then set up a payment plan and pay them back in their devaluing monopoly money while you hold the real deal. Yes Obama is intentionally destroying the economy. If he slaughters the Golden Goose in Halal fashion, then the desperate masses will turn to him for their daily bread.
Do you believe this crash is going to coincide with the currency drop of 30 percent.
What are a couple of good currency pairs to go against the dollar. I’ve switched everything out of my
Scottrade account, but I wanted to participate on the dollar fall, then switch to the used/chf at 30 percent drop.
Thanks you.
Hi James,
I have a couple questions. I was wondering, based on your dreams, if there is a possibility of a market crash BEFORE the Obama 1.2 Billion. In other words, is there any room for a slightly different interpretation on the timing, even if both events still do happen soon? The other question is related to the US Dollar. Do you think when the Dollar falls at the time of the crash, it will fall in relation to all other currencies or just the CHF? I live in Canada, so it would help to know this when converting currency. Many thanks!
Since I only saw a specific event I don’t know what might happen before or afterwards. However, I believe this sign was given to let us know the big crash is coming soon afterwards. So we could have smaller crashes before this event. We already had one back in August.
Regarding the fall of the dollar, I saw that in a separate dream so I don’t know exactly when that happens. I have been assuming both events happen at the same time, which I believe explains why China gets mad and walks out. However, the Lord has not told me those details so my assumptions could be wrong.
If you compare the USD/CHF from Aug 17-25 to the DJIA they both went down together. The USD started the first leg down on the 10th just a few days before the DJIA started moving down on the 17th. So it is very possible they are together.
That makes sense. So far I have not heard any other explanation for why China would get up from their table and stomp out of the hall threatening to declare war. Devaluing the dollar would cost them hundreds of billions of dollars by allowing us to repay them with worthless dollars. They would not be very happy about that!
That is my interpretation also. That the table is the dollar and it falls on them.
James my thought is China will not be upset about devalue of USD. They’ve known it is worthless for years and do not trust USA. Most that $1.3 trillion they own has been turned into hard assets already–like buying land and resources in Africa–they used treasury bills.
For all the rhetoric that portrays China as wanting to invade USA. Maybe that will occur someday but my take having spent a lot of time in China is last thing they want now is a war–US is a large trading partner–they want a market to sell to –they do not want to kill goose who lays golden eggs and they are not ready for any type of war. Every meeting I sit in in China is about China investing in USA companies- and real estate–no one makes an investment one day knowing they will go to war the next. Hundreds of thousands of students are studying in USA. Believe it or not most Chinese are infatuated with everything American. If USA had intelligent diplomacy, China would be a good ally. China is most capitalistic country in the world–no one talks of communism or adheres to it. It is feudalistic society with a capitalistic economy. I think your dream about stomping out has something to do with USA reniging on an agreement or delivery of gold. I personally do not think it treasury bill related as China has been converting those for years. But Hank Paulson is in China now–who knows what devilish promises Goldman Sachs and US Treasury is manipulating China into agreeing to.
Hi James, Daniel and other, I also thought China will not be too upset about devalue of USD. John Paul J said China will retaliate and dismantle US dollars because US cause the burst of the bubble of housing market in China and Hong Kong. I guess the shadow government will raise up the interest rate after the devaluation of US dollars. So every bubble all around the world will burst including the housing market of China and Hong Kong. And the US dollars will bounce a little bit after that.
Thanks for sharing those insights Daniel. That is an interesting theory, but I am not sure I totally understand it because the Fed stopped backing Federal Reserve Notes with gold back in 1971. So why would China expect to get gold for their treasury bills? Did we make an exception for them?
The only reason I can think of for them to demand our gold is if they think they already own it. Otherwise, they could just purchase it from somewhere else. Do you know of any reasons why they would think they already own the Fed’s gold?
In many ways I believe it will be the principalities unseen running people’s rationale and we know the principalities are very smart much smarter than our political leaders due to much longer lives. I think we know that when the evil winds are blowing rationale can go out the window.
daniel the south china sea IS a big deal to the chinese – they have changed their passports to show the spratleys as being chinese territory.
also most of the population are as you say infatuated with the west, the world really, but the majority do not run china – a small percentage does and its this small minority that has eyes on america
they arent creating artificial islands just for the fun of it. they have a reason and a goal.
china imho are preparing for a war
Didn’t China just declare that if the US naval ships came within 12 miles of their artificial islands again, that might launch a war between China and USA? (TruNews, one day this week, not sure which.) And the USA position is that we will not make an exception for China to our “right” to patrol the South China Seas and cross that 12-mile line in the sand.
Yes, I have been following those events, but unfortunately that does not fit what I saw because in my dream it was not the stand that we took that made China mad. It was after we took a stand when the shadow figures knocked over the U.S. table causing it to crash down on our own representatives and pin them to the floor. That was what caused China to get very angry and stomp out yelling and threatening to declare war.
Tony didn’t know how to hit reply on your comment but I agree with John Paul Jackson–next move by shadow govt will be to take down China’s real estate market if Chinese leaders don’t do what told. Since only 10% of Chinese people held stocks–taking $5 trillion off stock market in 4 weeks didn’t affect the leadership as most the people were untouched and didn’t cry out. But a real estate take down would be different as people invested their pensions, their futures, their kids, grandkids futures in real estate. I do not think current leadership would survive a real estate take down as the people would rise up I think.
Debra, I love Rick Wiles and Trunews but personally IMO I live straddling South China Sea spending half my time in Philippines and other Half in China . And I think this South China Sea issue is way overblown. The USA is using it as an issue, the Philippines encouraging them but I don’t think it that big a deal. if it escalates its because powers that be provoked a fight to gain something. IMO, the Philippines is like an annoying mosquito to China and south China sea not that big of deal to China. The USA is trying to provoke something or cause China to lose face. Why? It’s certainly not USA territory–they are using this issue for bullying China on something else. But China has been restrained–they are in no position to engage US Naval power–with a 200 million army their military would be a difficult challenge to US army but with one aircraft carrier–China’s Navy is way out gunned and they know this. A war with their largest trading partner is not what they want IMO. And though I live in the area I do not worry about it.
What James just said all of the sudden seems to make sense. I believe every government is in on the international agenda and with that being so, they’re all expected to react certain ways and play their role as this game unfolds, and I’m quite sure of it. It’s not just a conspiracy theory, it’s real. I believe that when what’s coming to America happens, the political leaders will freak out knowing mass rebellion and maybe even a military coup is coming
And they will turn their back on the international agenda, which China’s also involved in. When they decide not to go with the plan, China will be angry and will execute they’re yuan move in the Middle East with Russia’s help, America will not want to allow the death of the petro dollar so world war 3. Just a scenario.
Hi James you may know this info already, but I did some research on correlations between the dollar index and the DJIA, and their is a positive correlation. That occurs historically. Also regarding the moves that China, Russia and a few others are making against the dollar, it just click with me about how their concerted effort planned to unfold.
One of the biggest strengthening factors of the dollar is its use in oil purchases from the Middle East, so now with Russia effectively taking charge in the Middle East, the premise for the original reasoning for the petrodollars existence seems to have evaporated. The petro dollar began when The U.S. Came to agreement with the Saudis that the Saudis would sell oil in dollars in return for protection from the U.S.
Now we see Saudi Arabia turning towards Russia. Other middle eastern countries are as well. The major blow could be Russia setting up the Middle East for selling oil in Yuan and the Chinese role being getting their international payment system ready and pleasing the IMF for extra legitimacy by being put in the SDR.
Thanks for sharing that!
I already provided an outline in this post. Sounds like they will be raising the debt ceiling again. What a joke it is to even have a debt ceiling since this will be the 75th time we have raised it!
If I read an article correctly, they have temporarily suspended the debt ceiling until March of 2017 after the elections. This means that there is no debt ceiling and can spend at will. This also makes it easier to push the debt ceiling debates even further down the road. My understanding is that we no longer have a debt ceiling “per say”