Protestors in Charlottesville VA and across the country are showing their ignorance by attacking monuments honoring Confederate soldiers. Author Dinesh D’Souza spoke out about the recent protests, explaining why the attacks are misguided.
“To me there’s a bigger story here – the left’s attempt to blame slavery entirely on the American South,” the author contended. “This is a big lie, because number one, most Southerners did not own slaves, nor did most Confederate soldiers. Number two, the Northern Democrats in the preceding 40 years before the Civil War aggressively protected slavery. And they worked in cahoots with Southern Democrats.
The fight over slavery wasn’t between North and South. It was between a pro-slavery Democratic Party and the anti-slavery Republicans. This entire controversy, and the larger effort to remove Confederate memorials all over the South, is an attempt to cunningly conceal the Democrats’ historic role in protecting slavery as an institution.” (Source: wnd.com)
The protestors are giving a free pass to the Democratic party, which has historically been the driving force behind slavery and white supremacy groups. If the protestors truly cared about slavery, they should stop supporting the Democratic party and start tearing down all monuments honoring Democrats regardless of what state they’re from. Instead, they overwhelmingly align themselves with the Democrats, while attacking Republicans like Trump and Pence, calling them racists and fascists, as shown in the photo above.
Amazingly, the Democrats have managed to hide their pro-slavery, white supremacist roots from their political base and done it so successfully, many Democrats now believe white supremacist groups are part of the far right, when history shows they’ve always belonged to the far left, Democratic party. White supremacists promote this deception by portraying themselves as part of the right, even showing up in Charlottesville with signs saying, “Unite the Right.”
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Another perspective
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/08/unlearning-the-myth-of-american-innocence
Keep an eye on this statue of Albert Pike, Founder of the KKK and Confederate General. I bet it won’t be touched because Pike was a 33rd degree Freemason. This statue is in DC, in Judiciary square.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigadier_General_Albert_Pike
Is this really what the media Is potraying it to be? The shields and helmets on both sides are identical, and look expensive. How do they come up with these things in large quantities so quickly? Who is paying for them? The KKK costumes are laughable. The chanters have zero expression on their faces, no passion whatsoever. Looks like bussed in, paid actors by that dragon, Soros and Move on.org. Why were the police complicit? Why was the murderous driver’s social media account wiped clean afterward? To hide his political affiliation and obsessions? Was there not a recent post here stating that Obama and company’s next ploy was to bring in paid leftists posing as conservatives behaving in a vile manner to smear Trump and all conservatives to create anarchy? They got caught doing just that in Chicago at a Trump campaign rally. It seemed too bizarre to be just two radical sides battling one another. “The wicked walk on every side while the vilest men are exalted.” Ps.12:8 In this situation, it appears the media is falsely setting up conservatives and Donald Trump while exonerating and glorifying liberals. Seems like a diabolical deception to create chaos, amplify the racist card, smear all conservatives as alt right bigots, set up and blame our president for bigotry to concoct more impeachable ammunition as the Russian story fizzles. They are trying to overthrow him while they incite civil war to divide and conquer so they can usher in the loathsome Beast and beast system. This is the birthing stage of civil war, I heard the Lord say. Is this why they are using civil war icons? Keep questioning. Keep asking our Heavenly Father. I ask Him to postpone judgement for the sake of the elect But mostly, let’s keep trusting His guidance and protection. We are only safe in the secret place of the Most High. We have to dwell there in these chaotic times. He is our Strong Tower.
Cville event falls in line with the Larry Nichols interview with Lisa haven you covered in an article a while back.
I am sad that we are still fighting over race, statues, who did this or said that…yet…while all this diversion is going on within our country we have a much bigger problem…other countries looking to go to war with us?! Will everyone be shocked once they are on our land…will the subject of race and statues be the topic of conversation or can we just stand together as one and show other countries we have our ducks in a row and stand united?!!
I agree Jen. The enemy seeks division, so we must pursue unity. With that in mind, the Charlottesville story is important for all of us to see how communist agitators, led by Obama, are orchestrating fake events designed to divide us against one another. The Bible instructs us to be on the alert because our adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. (1 Peter 5:8)
While I agree that the enemy does and always will try to divide, it is also true that a country needs to deal with the sin in its camp. The sin of slavery and racism has never been fully dealt with in our country. For black Americans this is more easy to recognize than white because we have experienced it- on a daily and regular basis. When we look at the Bible we see time and time again how the just rulers would tear down the idols, the statues, the poles that represented sin in their nations. Perhaps we are seeing the pulling down of some of those symbols of sin in our own country- ultimately leading to a true and lasting racial reconciliation in our nation. I personally see the confederate symbols coming down as perhaps a good sign that maybe some deep rooted things in our county’s history are finally be pulled up. You would have to be black to understand the continual trauma and reminder that an 80 something year old man must feel as he walks by the statues day after day as he picks up his morning coffee. As he is reminded of what that person thought of him as a human beng and what he did to his ancestors. While the left or the right may be staging whatever for their own political gains, the truth still remains that these symbols are representing a very painful past for African Americans. Do we hurt one group so that another can feel pride about what their ancestors did or accomplished for a cause that was so traumatic and dehumanizing for its fellow man? We must realize that in order to deal with the evils of other counties against us we must also deal with the evil that lurks within. We cannot be a nation that leads others to Christ or hopes to usher in great revival until we allow God to search deep within our hearts and cleanse us of our sin. Unfortunately I have seen so much racism within the walls of the church amongst my brothers and sisters. This is purging. It hurts and it’s ugly but it must be done if we hope to be true vessels of Gods glory.
This was a staged event designed to divide us. Let’s not allow that to happen. This is not about race. It is about destroying our nation.
To the contrary, if responded to in a Godly, humble and sincere way…great, true and deep healing and reconciliation can come. What the enemy means for evil can and often will turn for good if we respond in a way led by God. If there is bitterness or unresolved issues in any relationship the people involved on both sides must be willing to admit wrong and ask for forgiveness. And of course the afflicted party must be willing to forgive. That never happens unless the issue is brought to the surface and dealt with. We can’t just not talk about it and assume everything is ok when it is not truly ok.
But we the church have to lead in that Godly response. The world does not know how to do that. It takes Gods love, led by His Holy Spirit.
I just published a new post with more facts about what happened in Charlottesville. Here is the link:
https://z3news.com/w/fight-racism-satanism/
..regardless if this situation was staged or not racism is an issue that is alive and will continue to arise..many situations have not been staged that show racism is alive and well , but as you can see most of the church wants to keep their heads buried in the saND and not deal with it…like you said don’t want to deal with the sin in the camp…glynda lomax put up a prophecy posted here called white slavery where she saw whites being enslaved and in her prophecy she asks the question have you taken part in the injustices…ignoring it is also taken part…well it seems like God isn’t ignoring it either if He asked that question..and your right other nations laugh at us and know we are divided and hypocrites .Putin even brought it up ..America wants to parade around the world and call unity all the while not cleaning up our own house
sahran, just wanted to say I hope you know that the people on this site care about you and understand your life experience and love you for who you are. Don’t leave. Don’t feel alienated or ganged up on! The beautiful thing about this site is that we can root and ground our debates in the knowledge of Christ. Sites like this are an oasis in the desert of society, and healthy debate means disagreeing and being honest and having the emotional tank capacity to hash it all out with our fellow humans and you’re doing a great job. Love you sister
Having said that, it’s important to understand that racism is not something that will ever truly be eradicated. That utopia will not exist on this version of earth. It’s always going to exist in the hearts of some because its root is fear, bitterness and/or pride. I’d like to respectfully dissect your framing of racism being “alive and well” because it’s a common and popular, yet dangerous framing. The danger is that it opens the door to impute motive to a group on a large scale and succumb to the narrative of systemic racism. It’s obvious that we especially as Christians should not be ignoring or defending it, we should be rebuking it ferociously. I’m sorry if you aren’t hearing those rebukes, but with kindness and respect, please be sure it isn’t because you aren’t listening. (this would be my message to the African American community at large) Fear and bitterness beget themselves and sell a colored lens to their buyers. This lens tricks by painting truth with broad strokes of compromised emotion. To take specific examples like Dylan Roof and say what he did and believed is part of a system or ideology that is “alive and well” is a morally dangerous position. To be clear, racism is alive yes. It will always be. Just like murder. But it is not well. An example of true racism that was indeed systemic and indeed “alive and well” was Jim Crow racism. We as a society and state reject Jim Crow laws today. To deny the progress we’ve made, to deny that true white supremacists are a tiny fraction of a minority (that should be rebuked, yes, and with no ambiguity Mr President im looking at you) but to deny that is to eye the cliff of self perpetuating victimization. I say all this with utmost compassion and kindness of spirit and I pray God gives you peace in all things
Donna,
I totally agree with what you are saying. It seems as if many have selective amnesia when it comes to racism and slavery.. Also don’t forget the law of sowing and reaping. America is reaping the harvest. God will not be mocked.
James Bailey: Its not about the south, its not about slavery, its about the deep state trying to create chaos in our land, and to discredit our President. Plain and simple.
Thxs for clarity! Everyone must watch the movie-Hillary’s America by Dinesh because it is literally a history lesson on the Democratic Party!
I have been in the Public/school system at the high school level for years. I just retired out of it. I suspect, high numbers of these protestors are likely those indoctrinated with the liberal “change history switch” promoted by the strong left teachers unions and “Obama implemented Core!” Don’t ever believe the states removed this satanic core!! We were told to implement it 3 full years into curriculum of the schools before it hit the major news! The timing was planned way ahead, by the deep state. Now, instead of “Fed Core” each state has renamed this deceit “state core” like “Iowa core” or “Missouri core” or “California core” they are all aligned with Obama’s “Fed Core standard!” The study content has been rewritten and mandated! Is anyone surprised that these public HS graduates and the many college liberal graduates are marching today against their perceived false American ideals?? The deep dark state has worked for decades to get to this point in history; using their demons to twist the minds of our young, to not sense evil but call it good! I did what I could to present options and point senior students to real history..some were open to hear the truth! Some even spoke out in Government class to rebuke the teacher for promoting Communism!! May God have mercy on those young who are struggling out of givernment taught darkness!! The lies are imbedded in each area of study! Pray for our young! God is their only hope for truth!
Carol- Thxs for info– another new name in the news right now for Common Core is Mastery Based Learning, Proficiency or Competency Based Learning!
Taryn,
Look at the deception of what the elites are calling the core! “Mastery based” what a crock!! It’s their evil bias that they want mastered!! Parents for the most part are way to deceived to pull their kids out of this snake pit! Teachers are to be trusted and some can but not if they want to keep their jobs long!
Yes Carol. I was told to watch common core 2nd grade math lessons on YouTube. If our kids have to learn that way they will not understand addiction or subtraction.
But that doesn’t mean we can give the other side a free pass. I mean, are we all really ignoring the fact that there were literal nazis on the streets that day? Yes, there is hypocrisy on both sides, but I think one side is more flawed than the other. But this is exactly the kind of thing Satan does to turn us against each other! So instead of arguing with each other, we should keep praying, and focus on the coming tribulation ahead
Exactly, I believe it is a combination of orchesrated acts from Tptb working with the left and right with paid agitators, not just one party -this is not anything new, they have been doing this,and men acting out of their own volition….Is David Duke part of the conspiracy congratulating Trump.on Twitter….could be…Is trump discriminating against blacks decades ago also part of it….anything is possible guess
Sahran, this afternoon as I was praying, YHWH asked me if I remembered the day when He told me that my dad would die and I had to leave at once if I wanted to see him alive one last time? I said ‘yes’, and then He asked me if I remembered what deal I had made with Him in exchange for me leaving on this 40 year wilderness experience and I said’ yes, that my dad would be saved’ and ‘How?,’ father YHWH asked me, ‘did I show you that I had kept my part?’
That was when I remembered our conversation the other day and I realized that every time in my life something significant as a sign from Yah was about to happen He would bring that through a black ‘messenger angel’ to me. That happened last night and He reminded me of the first time it happened was through a black minister in Columbus, Texas who walked in to my dads hospital room in 1996 and asked him if he could pray for him to get saved and my dad said yes! You see I am a son of those whom yhwh has delivered from the prejudice of the past and your Father and my Father are bringing you and me together on here and this is our Father in heaven who is sending His sign to our generation that while chaos and destruction are increasing on this earth, He is still in control and He is bringing together His sheep and they shall feed in His good pasture and never again shall they hunger nor thirst.’ Sarah, may I call you that? I have never seen you in the flesh but I know you in the spirit and our Father is coming in acceleration at this time and He is lighting fires at this time that I am already seeing in the spirit and you, like your name sake are one of those Father has chosen to be a light among us. I may be tempted to apologize because you will receive also more unpleasantries(read persecutions and slanders and back talk and hatred,etc, but I did not want to talk about it like that?)
As the world grows darker out there and as gross darkness is beginning to cover over the people in this country, [my note: we’ve already seen that creeping across the ‘great sea’ and Europe was first and now it is beginning in america]. Father is shining His light in our ‘virtual’ hearts of the spirit on Z3 at the moment and next we shine that light out to where?
Also, Sarah, still calling you that, hope that’s okay?, my closest friend in the spirit ( as John was Yahuwshuas closest friend spiritually speaking) today happens to be a tall black man.
And now, my new friend, I am anxiously, uh, oops, patiently ?waiting to meet you in the flesh, but don’t you think it is so amazing how we first met on z3news. Wow, imagine if a few years from now and we are sharing this amazing story about how God used a seeming tragedy to a nation in order to ignite His Holy fire of indignation against this onslaught of satan and how He squelched that by bringing together those in the spirit and power of YHWH Almighty. I love the way our Father moves in the spirit., don’t you?
Peace shalom and blessings, Thomas Nodoubt
Hello Thomas, of course you may call me that..a prophetess months ago told me I was a Sarah in the spirit and would birth many….yes, God is amazing how he orchestrates divine appointments..thank you for sharing your experience as well and your patience..the Lord has been showing me I need more patience with my brothers and sister…Can’t wait to see you too..Be blessed
I agree. Deception on both sides and division is the enemy’s goal.
We Should Join Alliance What ever
The Lord Told Do Not Join Them
l AM not in All This Controversy.
This ls The end time,
There Are Some Things We All Not Be Entangle With.
We Do Want To Inherit The Earth.
Read lsaiah 8:13
The Word Declare Thus:-
“Don’t Regard Alliance What This people Calls Call Alliance.
Don’t Fear What They Fear Or Be Awestruck By It.
But
Lord Almighty Consecrated Him”.
This Is The End Time
We Should Not Be Stuck Into The World Controversy.
What at Happens in Charlottesville VA
Are Part Of The Devil Design.
If We Don’t Heed This Warning
The Rich Will soon be Running From Their Houses
Rape And Mayhem Will soon Follow.
Society Will Be Taken Over by The Trouble Makers.
Charlottesville was a “false flag”/staged event. All designed to push the narrative – white Conservatives are racist. Evidence here – https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/08/15/signs-of-charlottesville-white-supremacist-rally-being-a-false-flag/
Remember that the VA Governor is very close friends with the Clintons who “gave” him the election. I lived in NC at the time & heard of countless examples of election fraud! Soros is a top shareholder in Diebold, which provides a significant percentage of the voting machines. ?
Now the narrative is being linked to Christians ?? – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-christian-terrorist_us_59945430e4b0a88ac1bc38a8
I am so tired of the lies, character assassinations of Conservatives & Christians, the nonstop manipulation of the sleeping masses, and the constant tidal wave against morality & God. Sad to say, I have reached my breaking point. I used to pray for God to spare Mystery Babylon, N. America, because of the number of loved ones & friends that reside there but no more. I continue to pray for people’s repentance but my once beloved Nation is cancerous, dirty, immoral & evil to the core. The number of true followers of God has dwindled to a very small percentage in our once Christian nation. The majority of our nation is driven by GREED, POWER, POSITION & PERSONAL INTEREST.
God will supernaturally protect his people from the wicked when judgment comes. However, I have been mourning my country & the loss of what it was & what it stood for since I woke up in 2015. I am done with this mourning. Now I only mourn my Christian brothers & sisters that live among the continual deception, anger, hatred & cruelty towards people following a God-honoring life in the U.S. & around the world. For those that are still asleep, many by choice through their action, I feel little sympathy. Very clearly we are told by Our Father that “my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge….” (Hosea 4:6). NEVER has this been more true.
So glad to be out of the U.S. The stress of living in the country with pro-war/neo-con leaders, the deception, the celebration of sin (LGBT), selling of aborted baby parts, rampant abortion, porn in all things entertainment, the hate & anger towards Christians/Conservatives/people with different views, etc. was too much. Life is too short & God called me & my family out. So grateful for this because at the time, I was still partially asleep & did not want to leave my country. Now, other than to visit loved ones ❤️, I will never return to live there full-time. So incredibly sad. ?
Expat Girl you hit the nail on the head it was a false flag. The evidence suggests that TPTB set up both sides of the protest – and ordered the police to stand down and funnel the right-wingers through a gauntlet… The leftists that got ran over probably don’t realize that the same people who paid them to be there were most likely responsible for them getting ran over. Those who weren’t paid to be there are being played. Their eyes are blinded and they don’t want to look for the truth. I’ve know that the Democrats were the party of the KKK since I was a kid and I’m no genius. Deception is everywhere. Divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book.
Like you I am pretty confident that we won’t come back from this slide. Jeff Byerly has some pretty sobering words on his blog today. The train has left the station. But take heart, for the Glory of the Lord is risen upon His people. It is ours to go on the offensive spiritually now…laying hands on the sick, interceding, witnessing and ministering the Gospel as though we are in the end times, because we are there. As A.W. Tozer put it, practice the presence of God. There is much yet to accomplish for the Kingdom.
False flags and diversions! It’s what we are living through right now! Prophets are warning the soon attack of the Russians coordinated with the Chinese upon our own soil!! These two plan while we send massive troops and ships to Asia worried over N Korea! Our homelands left wide open to invasion! Rick Wiles is one of many who saw Russia and China attack the US during Christmas holiday, when decorations are up!! Divide and conquer that’s what this season is about!
Expat Girl, America will NOT be saved. However, we, as Christians, are to be contending for the faith and we are to be proclaiming the gospel to places like America since it will be destroyed (it’s just a matter of when). As Ambassadors of Christ, we are to save as many as we can save and then let the devil have what is left. Our purpose is not to save America, but the lost people in America and the world. You have to be powered up by the Holy Ghost to cut through all of the brainwashing by Common Core and the other ‘programs’ that are out there to be able to reach the lost people. First and foremost, you have NO power unless you are IN Christ, have your household and marriages in Order, and are being led by the Holy Ghost. The devil will only flee and respond if you have more power than he has. This is where our efforts should be now so we can stand against the wiles of the devil. Do we have the power and the authority to do so? Sadly, many ‘Christians’ do not, as many of them do not even have the Holy Ghost or do not know Jesus Christ personally. You can download the information you need from getyouranswersonline.com or find a place, books, or teaching somewhere to get the answers you need to be able to stand in this evil day. I do not care if you get the information from the books I have mentioned or any other place, but get the power you will need to stand against the devil. The devil is flexing on America because Americans have not stood up against him to make him run away. Get with the Lord Jesus Christ and ask for guidance and help to do HIS work here, which is to destroy the works of the devil. He is counting on US to get up and stand against the devil in this evil day.
This isn’t about which parties are right and wrong and which ones stand for God. I can say God is NOT represented in either party. White supremacy is wrong and evil that’s what needs to be said. This is about people standing against racism. People shouting “blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us” are acting against God and believers should be pointing to the love of God. Finger pointing to the other party only fans the flames of division.
Trump is usually so verbal of things he doesn’t like but is currently making exuses for white supremacists. Or in the very least, dodging the issue (much like Obama did with radical Islam). I don’t believe we should make excuses for Trump’s behavior.
Yes, I believe he was chosen by God. God told me to vote for him because certain things needed to be put in place. But I was fully aware that his presidency was not going to bring back holiness to this nation. On the contrary. Even so, I trusted God though I struggled to understand why he wanted Trump.
Please believers, no more excuses for Trump. Horrific events like Charlottesville are opportunities to share Christ’s love rather than defend broken men and point fingers at other broken men. Let’s point to and defend Christ in all we do shall we?
God told you to.vote for him and you still have discernment to see he has major flaws and not defend every move he makes as the sayING ” touch not mine annointed” and realize his purpose in office was to full full God’s plan not the desire of men’s heart …you are truly rare …Be bleased sis
Sahran, welcome home sister. We are all on here to learn and to grow in Yahuwshua haMashiach and to wash our robes and garments in His blood.
Our Father has me as one going out to the highways and byways in order to ‘ compel them to come in so that my house may be filled.'(Lk.14:23). Right now, I ride a bicycle a couple miles into town and He sets up divine appointments at a local coffee shop. I never know what the people will look like in the flesh but they seem ‘highlighted’ in the spirit to me. They just stand out and there is a glow given off by them. That glow is what you have also. And a peace. Don’t let satan use distractions, no matter how innocuous take you out of that place of peace because then he will succeed in cutting off that light shining out of you causing you to glow. When you walk around you will notice people looking at you but it is not always [my note: I ask you to forgive me and to charge me with any account of wrong prejudice incurred toward you on account of those walking out their lives in the flesh]. It is not always those with evil in their hearts but it is an attraction in the spirit. Tonight, I walked back to sit down at my table and a young black man and his daughter were sitting at the table next to me that I had not seen walk in . But, when I saw him, I could not take my eyes off of him and finally, after almost 5 minutes of trying to figure out where I had met him before or where I knew him from or maybe he was the brother of someone I knew and he just looked similar…all of a sudden it hit me and I asked him, ‘ Do you know Jesus?’ And his eyes lit up and we spent an hour and half fellowhipping and sharing and his daughter wrote me this note and left it for me before they left. “bye! Have a great night may God bless you angel! Ariana and your Friend ❤️
You’re glowing my sister.
And o, I do have whit(er) skin than you. But don’t hold that against me but do please forgive me even as Paul in Philemon1:10-18 said,
“I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:
Which in time past was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me:
Whom I have sent again: thou therefore receive him, that is, mine own bowels:
Whom I would have retained with me, that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel:
But without thy mind would I do nothing; that thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity, but willingly
For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever;
Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord?
If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself.
If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account;
Blessings and shalom in Him
Brother, my heart was heavy but I thank God for his mercy and grace and you for allowing Him to use you on this mighty way…Thank you for this word of encouragement and be blessed.
As I was in Father’s Presence earlier He reminded me of you and when I started to pray He flashed a picture of Sarah before me and impressed this scripture to share with you.
‘Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?’?Gen18:12
The word He highlighted was ‘pleasure’. I felt He wanted me to tell you that yes, you will see ‘pleasure’ in your time.
…and we shall know if we continue on to know the Lord.
I have struggled these past years and Father is faithful and has step by step taken me and cleaned and washed me(of all the sins and ignorance I had been struggling under-and yes, some of it was my own fault! I Knew better* and yet in my mind I justified it and that was my undoing and prolonged the process. ). He is doing a quicker work today I can see and you are one of His. Fear not neither let your heart be troubled little one. He is our strong tower that we run into and are safe.
* I could have tried justifying my ‘sin’ by claiming as Eve that I was deceived by the pastors, those wolves in sheep’s clothing, who encouraged me in sin but we both know I could not have been lead away into sinning had that temptation not had any root in my heart. And besides, there are way too many mature believers on here and one of them would for sure see right through that flimsy excuse! !!!
I believe Trump is part of God’s judgement on America , his election brought so many underlying issue to the surface like white supremacist,racism,paedophilia,anti-semism, civil-war,international war etc. just like Bible gave us a sign that “at the last TRUMP” 1Cor.15:52 God is using Donald Trump as the last president to bring issues that are buried(dead issues) to surface (to live) for judgement to come to pass. My candid advice is that instead of defending a party and blaming others while not have a corporate prayer sessions confessing this sins just like I heard a group of intercessors did a while ago ( they confessed that the whites-Spanish descent committed genocide and hatred sin against the native Americans in the process of colonizing America land.) If this is done very well I believe God might decide to soften the judgement a little bit like He did when Ahab repented before Him. Nevertheless judgement will still come to pass. Many black people died and suffered as a result of their color of their skin and an ungodly belief that the whites are a superior race; God will not overlook this, like He choose to permit man to kill animals after man left Eden. God will bring judgement on those responsible for this whether white or black , christian or non-christian etc. Let us humble ourselves before the Lord and repent on our behalf and on the behalf of our natural brethren that God in judgement will make a way out in His mercy. Note : This is just an admonition not a rebuke nor am I taking side . God bless you all.
Trump was being called a racist way before this…when he was sued for discriminatING against blacks in housing decades.ago….and said “would you want to live with them” meaning blacks….I wish people would stop defending this man on the basis that God pUT him in office…if this is the case it doesn’t excuse some of his actions and he has to repent and give his heart to God just like everyone else….im.not a Democrat or a republican, but it grieves me when wHite christians can’t admit that this country still has a race problem and both parties are not here for minorites or when there is an obvious injustice against a minority group will remain silent for fear they look like they are turning against there party..is everything racism ? Of course not, but it does exist and the church is silent cuz they have more loyalty to a party than theIR brothers and sisters. ..
Thank you sahran!!! Best response ever!!!
You must think that Obama was a saint then. Because he was the one to start all this tension. Also I haven’t heard a single racist word from trump. I bet your a Democrat? I’m a Blackman and my late great grandma told me that the republicans were never for slavery it was the dems. Also I’m wondering when will someone call out how Obama never spoke up about the Muslim who did all the shooting up americans and never once call them terrorist. Man I tell you the blind leads the blind. I thank Jesus for waking me up to the truth……
Actually I believe Obama is the AC, and I bet you didn’t read my posts cuz if did you would see I wrote I was ostracized for.NOT voting for.him..before you start jumping down someone throat it’s best to get your facts together…I never said he was a racist I stated that he was called that before and the FACT he was sued for discriminatING and quoted his words out of his mouth…it would help you to research Antwon
People can thumbs down all they want but like many prophets have said God will purify His people.in this season of judgment of all that is not of Him ..when christians turn a blind eye to the injustices of the poor and anyone for that matter. or pick and choose which injustices to fight for….God doesnt turn a blind eye .God knows the heart and there is hate and racism in MANY christians heart black, white, hispanic. Before it was hidden and they could hide it but in the past 10 years it has come out full force and they have been swept up in the world’s mindset. Both parties since their inception have been pawns of TPTB and will continue until the agenda they have started centuries ago is in full swing.I’m so glad I first identify with being a Christian before I identify with a political party or a mere man..
Amen sister!
I challenge your assumption that there is racism in many Christians hearts. How do you know this? What data backs this up?
What happens is when we hold a belief system, it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Let me share an example. When I was moving out of the U.S. 2 years ago, I experienced one challenge after another. I was financially cheated by the local mover, my NC landlord that I had been on great terms with for the entire year of the rental, the international mover, my Canadian realtor in the South American country, a U.S. Contractor living in the country, an American family living in the country, etc. After thousands of dollars in loss in the span of 4 months, I could have ascribed any reason to this. If I was black, I could have stated this was racism because all these people were white. I could have believed that this occurred because I was a Christian, a woman, a Conservative, etc. Then I become the victim because “everyone is out to cheat me” becomes my mentality & then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I went on to 3 more negative financial situations with more white people in early 2017. ?
What I realized is that there are people, even ones that call themselves Christians, that are living very immoral lives. The problem is that we are living in end times where many people care more about themselves & their well-being than your well-being or your family. These people do not share your values. So why do I believe that anything related to who I was had ANYTHING to do with their behavior? These were unethical, greedy people that I had the MISFORTUNE of crossing their paths & being tricked by their incredibly skilled, lying ways & I was just one in a long line of people taken advantage by these dishonest people. Do not personalize people behaving badly. It is on those people – not you. Do not give them the power through their hurtful & corrupt ways to harm you. You are NOT the problem.
I hope this makes sense & can help you reframe your thinking to find a more peaceful existence. I still had bad things happen but I refused to link their money-hungry/cheating behavior to me because I learned of other examples of the same behavior being directed to others of different genders, nationalities, belief systems, etc.
Im.not having a pity party or bitterness is eating me up to the point where I’m consumed..if I was I wouldn’t be on this site..there are many black christian forums I could only be on…look at most churches on a Sunday morning. ..most are all white or all.black…even christian radio stations…all black artists or all white artists…is this true of all..of course not…I attended times square church in NYC founded by David Wilkerson for 10 years and there are over 100 nationalities , but that was an exception.. This is something the church had to comes to terms with and I believe in these last days His remnant will be the ones to break down the walls the church is so comfortable with
Expat Girl, where exactly would there be data to back up racial sin? The last I knew the human sin rate is 100% and scripture states our hearts are evil. Why would it be difficult to believe many who call themselves Christians may have this sin problem? Just because you may not struggle with that particular sin? I don’t have a porn problem and yet this sin seems to be prevalent in many Christian men. I could choose to ignore or deny it because it doesn’t affect me but I recognize it’s a problem.
When we were going through classes through a Christian adoption agency you can bet their was in depth discussion concerning adopting transracially. All the couples there claimed to be Christian with a majority having Christian families/relatives. Our caseworker went on to suggest if our close relatives had issues with a child of another race we might want to rethink transracial adoption. This was 1 Christian agency out of hundreds nation wide addressing a real issue. You can choose to ignore there is a problem but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Good Word Saharan… you speak the Truth.
Hey Sahran,
I’m a white christian. I don’t think our nation has a race problem, I think we have a sin problem. It’s hatred, bitterness, unforgiveness. I take it by your comment that you aren’t white. My thoughts are that God created the races. How we treat each other just reveals the state of our heart and our need for him. I’m sure as a Christian you realize no matter how much we try to reconcile what mistreatments our ancestors did to ancestors of another race,without the grace of God there will be no reconciliation. Repentance of course from the offender but there has to be a willingness to forgive. Anyway as a young white Christian girl I found myself at the back of a bus filled with African americans. As I was getting off I was hit and cursed and talked down to. I have never felt one bit of bitterness toward how I was treated or have I felt anger toward that race. Just so you know, I did not grow up as a privileged white Christian. I grew up in the ghetto, a child of a broken home. I think sometimes we tend to label people “white Christian” based on how we see the world. It’s usually not that simplistic. It’s not all black and white or whatever race you want to call it. It really is about sin and the state of our heart.
Hey sis, thank you for responding ..yes I am black and I try to identify as christian first since that should be our first and foremost identity…I did single out white christians because I have not heard many speak on this issue.. they either dismiss it or label the person as race baiting..or bring up other issues..? forgot political parties..when you see your brothers and sisters hurting for whatever reason at least take it to God and ask Him am.I missing something or how should I handle this situation. At least you understand their is still hurt and bitterness and we need the grace of God to overcome, but there are many who feel there is.not an issue so they have nothing to take to God and have no sympathy.Pastor Carter Conlon from Times Square Church and Tim conway did adress this issue ….true men of God. You ae correct it , at the core it is a sin issue and racism, bitterness, unforgiveness, etc are just many of the manifestations from it..Honestly, politics are hard for me because of course as a christIan I could.never vote democrat just for the simple fact of abortion..but the Republican party , most candidates are so dismissive of minority issues and just the poor in general in my opinion, that im.not compelled to go that route either..only one I would have voted for was Ron Paul but all his supporters knew he would never make it in the White House …TPTB wouldn’t allow it …I appreciate you sharing your experience. ..I am fighting the spirit of bitterness from time to time and if I as a Christian struggle with this, I can imagine how the enemy is deceiving those who don’t know God or just have churchianity
May God bless you and keep you and cause his grace to finish that perfect work in your heart until you are transformed into his likeness.
thank you
Hello Sahran. I am not American and I do not live in America. I am black and it pains me each time I read about racism from whites against blacks, even here in the United Kingdom!
We blacks tend to continue to blame the white people for our circumstances instead of making use of the God given opportunities to compete with the rest of the world. The time has come my sister for us blacks to move on and stay focused on Christ the Saviour/Healer, eschew bitterness, anger, resentment and ask God to help us in our struggles by living according to the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
I have suffered that rejection before where some white shop owners told me to f………off and that they would not serve me, but I refused to allow anyone to label me…..oh no!
Sister it is well, love conquers the enemy. Stay blessed, shalom.
Stella, we have a saying down here where I am close to Mexico that says, mi casa es su casa. My house is your house. And we are all the house of God, His habitation
You are welcome in my house anytime!
Thanks for being transparent Sahran. You help people become empathetic and you’re creating an understanding of how many people feel. No one is perfect and what you say is true, to you and countless others. I’m sure there have been many instances in your life that have shaped your thought process just as the rest of us. You and Lydia both are spot on. I also understand what the others are saying. It’s complex….but really shouldn’t be. As Lydia said , those of us that know Christ should walk in forgiveness and love and as you stated we should also not be dismissive of our brothers and sisters feelings,struggles and real life experience. Love covers a multitude of sins. We can be a bridge and do our part by sowing seeds of love. We can show others extreme love and respect and purposefully sow that into our communities. Unfortunately for us nothing will ever be healed and completely over until Jesus sets up His Kingdom on earth or until we step into heaven. It sucks. Life is hard. We all struggle and no one is exempt from that. Much ?, Katie.
Love you Katie!
I love you too Lydia! ?
thanks Katie..I appreciate it
I love you my sister and I get it. I’m sorry for what you have to deal with. It pains me to see you being misunderstood . Father knows , and He loves you.
Sahran – I am disappointed that you as a member of a group, i.e. Black American, who feels that there has been prejudice against you then feel it is appropriate to stereotype another group, i.e. white American. I have had black friends since I was a child & could never fathom how anyone who was a Christian or even a decent human being, could harshly judge & want to harm someone on the basis of their skin. I found & still find this incomprehensible.
Now there is a backlash against whites as if every person with white skin is the enemy & evil & should be destroyed. White farmers are being killed & having their farms taken by black people in South Africa & in parts of southern Chile. ? Maybe some blacks feel this is quid pro quo.
Regardless, I REFUSE to stereotype entire groups of people on religious beliefs, skin color, gender, education levels & socio-economic levels because it would be WHOLLY & COMPLETELY INACCURATE! Every person needs to be treated as an individual versus being grouped into any grouping & then JUDGED & CATEGORIZED. God sees each of us as individuals, why don’t we? Any actions or words that slander entire groups of people is wrong & unfair & unChristian.
The more I have traveled the world & the greater the diversity of people I have met, the more RIDICULOUS stereotyping is. We need to STOP stereotyping & call out unacceptable behavior & words by others, which I believe those that are truly walking with Christ do. Many of us LONG AGO gave up the popularity contest & realized by speaking the truth & calling out wrongs & reminding society of God’s Word, we were going to be very unpopular.
I will pray for the bitterness you & your friend’s feel. May you find a way to move past your categorization of people so the blame is placed INDIVIDUALLY where it is deserved & not on entire groups of people. May you find peace. ??
This is my experience. .many white christians I have encountered have turned a blind eye to racism,..I have been on mainly white forums and if there is an obvious injustice against a minority most will find a way to deflect..it is my experience and I will stand by what I said. .I don’t see white christians on Fox speaking out against it..but abortion and homosexuality their screaming from rooftops as they shouldnt cherry pick what your passionate about…of course not all, but it is only a few that are vocal that I have seen .I have named the two preachers that I have heard speak about it…im.not speaking from bitterness, I’m speaking from experience…I was honest enough to admit sometimes it surfaces but I take it to God. ..Christians will face backlash when they stand for righteousness. My family wanted to disown me when i didnt vote for Obama.Christians are being persecuted, not just white christians. .I also hope you will also pray for your other brothers and sisters on this site that have that same issue but just can’t admit it
Sahran, you are missing the point. racism is a means of dividing. That’s all. James is right about the dividing of the races to cause discord. Jesus Himself said that a divided house will fall, so why are we falling for the oldest trick in the book? Focus on Jesus and the work he wants YOU to do and not bemoan racism. In the end, does it really matter if a person is racist or not? What matters is that Jesus has sent us – you and me – to bring in the lost people. Repent of this loathing of racism and give it to Jesus Christ so that burden will be lifted off of you. Learn what you need to do so you can fight the devil and make him flee from you. Fight the devil, Sahran, and NOT the vessels or agents he USES to try and subjugate you. In the end, the devil will just throw away those who are racists, so we need to do the best we can to save those who will be saved and not be concerned about what is a racist or not.
‘For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.’
2Co.5:14-17
Sahran, my husband and I are white with a bi-racial son. I understand some of your feelings because I have seen my son treated differently than my other white children due to his race. We live in a predominantly white area. My son is an adult now and I know he carries some wounds from it. It is hurtful and yes people (in the church) can be so blind to it. And yes, we need Abba’s grace to overcome. Bless you.
Thank you, people like to act like it’s just a figment of your imagination and ended when slavery did..and I do realize it is not just blacks, but people around the world experience injusTice and should be prayed for.by the church as well
I feel like the emotional wounds from slavery have never been healed. Only the Savior can help people forgive each other from long forgotten but still alive hurts that must be healed and should never have happened in the first place.
I have to object to any notion that there is a moral equivalence between the Republicans and Democrats, especially when a Christian is trying to make this argument. Political parties have platforms much in the way that many churches publish a “What we Believe” statement or a statement of faith. A party platform lets you know where the parties stand on important social and economic issues. If I were going to create an “anti-Christ” platform, I wouldn’t have to do much work, I could simply copy much of the Democratic platform. We are talking about a platform that goes far beyond the evils of abortion and homosexual marriage.
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/wake-up-christians-there-is-no-place-for-you-in-the-democrat-party/
https://stream.org/lovers-religious-liberty-scant-comfort-democratic-party-platform/ ,
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/04/democrats-are-treating-people-faith-like-criminals.html
Are there Republicans who do not support Biblical values…………….absolutely!!!! Is the solution to the problems of our country found in politics……………absolutely not. Some Republicans are indistinguishable from Democrats. Both can be corrupt and immoral, but party identity is not irrelevant. The Republican platform is in diametrical opposition to that of the Democrats.
Let us be clear, the Democratic position on “hate speech” is precisely what will be used to justify and usher in the persecution and execution of Christians in the future. Christians are already being punished for speaking out against various kinds of sins in Canada and some European countries. Anyone who identifies with a party that so blatantly opposes and shuns Christian values is essentially spitting in God’s face. Realizing that we have a 2 party system with very little chance of a third party rising to power any time soon, doesn’t it make sense to support the party that best reflects Christian values? Given that all man made institutions and organizations are flawed, we often have to decide in favor of the better but still imperfect option .
The news media does everything in it’s power to ignite racial tension. The left knows it needs black voters (roughly 96% of all black women voted for Hillary and Obama in the last 3 elections). “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” , never happened. It was a myth perpetuated by MSNBC, CNN, The New York Times , The Washington Post and other major news media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEhUP4097JM
Satan knows that if he can stir up a race war, he achieves his objective (and the Democrats achieve their objective as well!). Whenever people opposed Obama’s agenda, the national media (Satan’s pawn) was always quick to tell us that racism was the motivation. The national media gleefully promoted the idea that white cops are victimizing blacks and blacks need to stand up and fight this injustice! As more and more facts have come out, we learn that while there have been a few (but not nearly as many as initially reported) instances of some unjustified shootings, the problem is not systemic. The national media and the left will never discuss or show you the other side of the problem because it is politically incorrect; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEbta5E_jqlZmEJsriTEtnw/videos
The national media, the left and many black leaders are quick to talk about incarceration rates as proof of racism. The incarceration rate argument is thoroughly flawed and is promoted by people who don’t want to examine the facts. Men are incarcerated at the rate of about 9 to 1 over women. Does that mean that our criminal justice system is sexist??? Everyone knows that men are imprisoned at a much higher rate than women because they commit the vast majority of crimes. Asians and Jews are incarcerated at a lower rate than whites; does that mean that a pro-Jewish or pro-Asian bias is involved? According to FBI statistics, incarceration rates accurately reflect crime rates among different ethnicities. There are many reasons for this, but the breakdown of the family is at the top of the list.
There is much more that can be said, but don’t be fooled. A lot of the race hysteria is propagated by the enemy to incite violence and hatred.
Race hysteria. ? .there are statistics that show blacks are given higher sentences than blacks and whites are acquitted more for the same crimes..there are many issues within black community within but that is always the argument pepole give when they don’t want to talk about the external factors..
I’m done with this site…all this talk about the narrow path and secret place, going deeper in the Lord bUT most are too busy going deeper into politics and worshipping the president and their political party to even show basic human compassion and empathy to other people…Trump is their idol just how the Democrats worshipped Obama…thank you to the few that actually showed what it is to.be a christian and put aside the political jargon for the day and focused on healing hearts..thank you James ..this site has been a blessing for me in many ways but today was an eyeopener…I’m tired of going into these forums with an open mind only to see how most christians who claim they are the remnant think just like the world and the lost church. ..that’s the whole point in coming here…to fellowship…but lesson learned
I believe you’ve misjudged us Sahran. No one here is worshipping Trump or giving him a free pass on anything. I’ve written several posts and a podcast sharing my concerns about him. Comparing that to what happened with how Democrats worshipped Obama is way off. They truly did and still do worship him.
By separating yourself, Satan has accomplished his goal of dividing us. He is the enemy here. We can defeat him by exposing his schemes and standing together stronger than ever.
I am.not talking about you but there are some I believe my statement applies to.. ..and .I just can’t fellowship with christians who I believe could care less about the plight of their fellow man and be so callous. Jesus came to heal hearts and have compassion not be dismissive.I’m tired of trying to fit in these forums where I obviously dont belong and read comments that let me know I don’t belong here. Maybe I need to be on forums with people I can relate to and we can help each other and not be told it’s all in your head or its fabricated and not make excuses for a leader who cant call out white supremacists ..he doesn’t know if it’s staged so that argument still doesn’t apply to why he didn’t call them out…anyway I’m done with this issue ..Be blessed
Hi Everyone
I have only told one person this story but I think I need to share it today.
I am a 57 year old white lady, working two jobs every week, who stops for coffee in the morning. For MANY months, a black man would stand outside the coffee shop EVERYDAY asking for money. I told God I would buy him breakfast everytime I saw him.
There were many mornings I didn’t have extra money to buy him a drink and a breakfast sandwich. Sometimes I would look up and say “Really God, you know I am broke this week”. But I still kept my promise to God. On good weeks, I would buy him breakfast AND lunch. Each time, I would tell him how much Jesus loves him.
Why did I do this? Because he is a human in need. Period. It had nothing to do with his skin color. And when I realize I haven’t seen him for a few days, I am reminded to pray for his salvation.
Why am I telling you’all this story? Because we should not judge anyone by their skin color.
Thanks for that great testimony Elizabeth.
Sahran,
You have been on my heart the past few days. I’m sorry if I said anything that offended you or if I came across as not recognizing the failures of the church to address race relations. Please forgive me, that was never my intention. You are in my heart and prayers.
This is very true, Lydia. All the injustice and darkness of the world boils down to sin. Racism exists from every angle but I think it’s still important to acknowledge that people judge others based off appearances, in this case, skin color. This tendecy will yo judge and hurt others based off color of skin never has gone away and will only go away once the love of Christ fills every broken heart. We need to let people of all races see the love of Christ instead of finger pointing at parties or people. We wrestle not against flesh.
Melissa. I totally agree that we need to acknowledge that racism exist and people are hurt by it. Jesus is the only answer to heal the brokenness. I believe that we all have different wounds that need to be cast onto the Lord. He can handle it. I think we run the risk of turning our wounds into idols instead of trusting Jesus that he will heal us. Even racism and the pain it inflicts has to bow to the name of Jesus. The bigger question is do we have the faith to trust him and let it go and walk in love.
Lydia Hodge: Amen sister
This post was not a defense of Trump. It only pointed out how the hostility against Trump and Pence, calling them racists and fascists, is misguided because it is directed at anyone who is conservative or Christian. By definition, a true conservative is someone who believes in and honors our Constitution and Declaration of Independence, which protect the equal rights of all citizens in our republic, which is the opposite of racism and fascism. So the hostility is misguided, and made worse by giving a free pass to the Democratic party, which has been the primary source of racism for nearly 200 years. Of course there have been racist Republicans too, but Democrats have been the primary source of it as the defenders of slavery and enemies of civil rights.
The U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence align well with Christian values, which is why I find it amazing how people who claim to be Christians align themselves with political candidates who seek to destroy those great documents.
i agree that anybody has the right to assemble and protest., personally i could care less about the statues if their up or down…but that friday night they werent just assembling they were chanting hateful things against Jews, .Y cant you assemble without hateful rhetoric? so of course the next day, the left is going to come out…would they have come even if they quietly protested..probably so but the racist chants didnt help either…so im trying to figure out y Trump didnt address that the next day instead of being ambiguous…its plain as day ..i dont know if people are using the argument that the white supremacists can say whatever they want ,including chanting racial slurs under the amendment, if that is the argument coming from Christians….i dont know what else to say
The whole event was staged. The white supremacists were paid agitators. It is all designed to divide us, so we have to stand against them and expose their evil schemes. I will be sharing more details in a new post.
James,Yes and it seems you can see that it has accomplished their agenda.I remember Dimitri Dudeman said years ago that there would be an event I thought he said (causing civil war in middle of country) …which would appear to be about racism,but that it was actually a communist plot….Which when we were busy fighting amongst ourselves,We would get attacked by Russia???Maybe someone remembers the entire Word..Now what happens is people start falling into their unforgivness,bitterness,divisions concerning races.It is a sin issue….
People need to not look at the surface which is what they want..Hey,FAKE NEWS…False flags….nothing is as it appears…Most have not comprehended yet that some of our superbowl half time shows were actually satanically sacrificial performances meant to spellbound the masses…These were done to cause racial division and civil war….You just need to have eyes to see and ears to hear…..
These are not conspiracy theories..
THIS IS A WAR BETWEEN GOD AND SATANS HORDES…
Both parties need to be cleaned up…spiritually
Totally agree with your comment. The problem arises when we attach blame to only one side. So many Christians are blinded by this left /right argument. The only right side to be on is God’s side, and he is neither Democrat or Republican. Christians need to remember this and act accordingly.
Sharan you do realize this was an orchestrated event by the left. Which is communist front organization called Democrats, and by its nature is the anti Christian and Anti God. This event was the Hegelian dialectic in full motion.
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/08/police-charlottesville-was-inside-job-to-ignite-race-war-3544221.html
You are correct Mike. Here’s another article discussing who is orchestrating actions of the “alt-left” & “alt-right” & it’s the same people! http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/08/18/wake-up-people-alt-left-and-alt-right-are-run-by-the-same-forces-the-goal-is-divide-and-conquer/