Several prophetic warnings regarding Germany have been shared in the past few weeks, as listed below.
Z3er Michelle shared the following warning in an email sent on May 9 2016:
“My 73-year old husband last night at 6:00 pm on May 8 2016 became very out of character. He looked at me strangely and said, ‘Something big just happened in Europe.’ I looked at him and said, ‘It has to do with the money system.’ He sat there dumbfounded for another ten minutes and the Holy Spirit said to him, ‘International banking system.'”
Z3er Scott shared the following warning in a comment posted on April 26 2016:
“I had another short dream or vision on April 15 2016 where I quickly knew the word ‘Germany’, and I was shown a computer screen that everything had just gone blank or disappeared, and the screen went to what I think is like a start-up page, or whatever you call it, and all the icons disappeared and only two were left and they kind of migrated up to the upper left hand part of the screen, I just knew something happened suddenly that changed things and something along the lines of trading, etc., got shut down or stopped.”
Z3er Phanuel shared the following warning in an email sent on April 26 2016:
“I had a few dreams this weekend that the DAX (Germany’s stock market) is about to get slaughtered, falling to 8600-8900.”
At that time, the DAX was at 10,259, so it would have to drop 16.2% to get to 8,600. However, it closed on May 16 at 9,952.90, so it has already dropped by 3% in the past three weeks.
Z3er JW shared the following prophetic dream in a comment posted on April 26 2016:
“In the natural I have this very nice BMW–very fast and powerful. A couple of nights ago, I dreamed I was driving a similar car up a steep hill on a two lane highway. Toward the top, the powerful expensive car started losing power and barely made it to the top of the hill and stopped.”
“As I was wondering what was up with that, I looked back down the hill and a late model Volkswagen sedan was coming fast up the hill in the other lane. There was a young guy driving it and it did not power out like my car, but he had to slow down a bit as he came up near me but still evidently had plenty of power to top the hill and just keep going down the other side. But, as he got beside me in the other lane this, sort of, clamp thing came up over his car and stopped the car dead, right next to mine, at the top of the hill.”
“I remember it occurred to me that his car was a much less expensive model than mine but easily made it to the top with plenty of power. Then I saw the guy get out of the Volkswagen and he was very upset that the clamp stopped him and held him back from going over and down the other side of the steep hill. I got out of my car and walked to look over the hill–down the other side. The highway did not continue. It ended right there at the top of the hill.”
“Down the other side was a green grassy field. It wasn’t very steep down the other side–sort of steep, but only somewhere around 45 degrees. Near the top, however was a series of wooden lodge pole fences, like you see bordering upscale ranches. There may have been some barbed wire along them also. This series of fences only proceeded perhaps thirty or forty feet down the hill then the rest of the hill, way on down, was just green grass, very pretty. As I stood there by the fences, there were some pieces of the lodge poles about three feet long siting in a row, maybe six or eight of them as I recall. I felt compelled to pick them up, one at a time, and throw them down the hill. End of Dream.”
Interpretation of JW’s Dream:
JW shared the following interpretation of his dream:
“I felt like the guy with the less expensive car was someone taking puts or options against the market and being sorely disappointed when he was stopped at the top of the hill. Similarly, I felt my expensive car slowly and barely making it to the top is my very heavy and expensive FAZ holdings. Also, the fences being barriers near the top of the hill probably represent some kind of market barriers as the market drops.”
On April 26 2016, Z3er Hilbilee, who teaches classes on dream interpretation, shared the following interpretation of JW’s dream:
“Both cars are German and they have reached the top. However, it’s not as if there is a steep drop in the highway. There is no highway! Is this the end of the road for the DAX? It appears there is no German market to continue, but there will still be a decline (grassy steep hill).”
Since JW saw the German cars moving up to the top of the hill, my interpretation is the DAX is going to make another top before crashing. The previous top for 2016 was April 20, the same as the Dow. Just as we are expecting to see the Dow make a steep climb over the next few days, the DAX is likely to move up at the same time. So the fulfillment of this dream could be coming very soon, or perhaps there is another steep climb coming at a later date.
JW’s impression that the powerful BMW represented FAZ sounds right to me because it is a high-powered investment vehicle, which would lose value (lose power) when the markets move up. However, the BMW still had some hope of sliding down the grassy hill while the less expensive VW, which he felt represented options trading, had much bigger problems, demonstrated by the clamp preventing it from going down the hill and the driver getting very upset. It sounds like a major market disruption.
In January 2015, Z3er Michael Perritte received a prophetic dream revealing a coming crash in the North Dakota oil fields followed by a crash in Germany. In his dream, the two crashes were separated by a shift in the classroom he was in. Just one month later, in February 2015, the oil fields started collapsing, resulting in many people losing their jobs. Michael felt the shift in the classroom represented the transition from one school year to the next. We now have just a few weeks remaining in this school year, which means the collapse in Germany could be very soon. The details of Michael’s dream were including in my previous post, Prophetic Dream: German Economic Collapse Coming Soon.
Back in 1973, David Wilkerson received a prophetic vision of a global economic collapse. He said, ““It’s going to start in GERMANY!” After that he says it will “spread to Japan, and finally to the U.S.”
Conclusion:
The western financial system is a house of cards termporarily held together by lies and manipulation. Buried in unprecedented levels of debt and exposed to unprecedented risks of heavy losses from financial derivatives, it is only a matter of time before the system crashes. The recent increase in prophetic warnings suggest the time could be soon and market disruptions could be severe.
While the crash would be bad news for most investors, it does not have to be bad news for everyone. There are ways to make profits from the downturn through inverse ETF’s, like FAZ and UVXY.
A crash in Germany would put immediate downward pressure on the euro, which represents another investment opportunity, not only for forex traders, but also for investors in the stock market through ETF’s like FXE, which targets the EUR/USD currency pair. Buying shares outright would not be a good idea since it moves in the same direction as the euro, which is likely to go down. However, put options are available for FXE at very low prices. Options trading is always high risk, but perhaps even moreso in this case if JW’s dream was interpreted correctly.
As always, these comments are not recommendations for investing. This information is provided as a starting point for prayerful consideration about what to do about it.
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I had a dream on Sunday that may be of interest.
It started I was watching a member of congress enter capital hill with virus test kits, then I saw him complain to his staff that they had to pay someone in Ireland for their development of the virus and the kits to detect it, however the staff member told the representative that there would be plenty of money for them as well. While I did not see which representative it was, it was someone who professed to be an ally at least of Christians, however he was using that perception to betray the country and the world.
Later I was walking in an grass parking lot, the kind used for overflow parking at my mom’s church. I saw a bi plane in the sky, it had a tattered right wing and started to have the engine and then it started tumbling end over end as it came down right toward me, i tried to run away but I fell and the plane crashed upside down next to me, I knew that the pilot was killed, but even though the remains of the plane’s left wing was but inches from my right leg If felt the tremor as the plane hit I was not injured, as the plane did not explode, the reason is that it was out of gas. So I got up and walked/staggered away
There is more, but I will leave it here,
I see the plane as the economy in tatters, the right side of the economy, I think represents the private sector side, that was in taters, while the left side, the public sector government side was doing fine, but without enough fabric left in the private sector there is not enough money to keep either side solvent, and the public welfare state will crash as well, because soon the economy will run out of gas and come crashing down, and this will happen sometime after there is some funding for a viral outbreak,
A day or so after my dream I saw that the US congress was working on a Zika funding bill,
“[A] member of congress…who professed to be an ally at least of Christians, however he was using that perception to betray the country and the world.”
Well, at least that narrows it down to 431. (You did refer to the member as a man.)
Yes and a member of the House of Representatives, but that is about it.
Hi Bob,
I’m no technical guru. I can’t figure out how to post articles from my phone. Going to ask my daughter how to do it. Yesterday Zero hedge posted an article about UVXY and other etf’s. They are at an all time high ever!!! Some one is betting this market is going to crash.
Hello Ed,
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-17/someone-really-wants-market-crash
Copied this From the Zero Hedge article blog comment, take it for whatever it is worth quote:
“VXX is trading at 15.40 today… In Feb 2009 it traded up to $7680… With all the pundits saying the next crash will make 2008-9 look mild in comparison”
A lot being observed of the latest George Soros move, do folks realize he joined the Nazis at age 14. He has said it was the best time of his life. Soros has crashed countries economy’s and as taken enormous gain for himself.. He is an economic hit man of the highest order and plays in the shadows.
From Dave Hodges writing , food to throw on the table and chew on. Soros does not due things on a whim .
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/05/18/soros-is-collapsing-the-dollar-and-setting-the-stage-for-ww-iii/
Another indicator Zero Hedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-18/saudi-arabia-admits-full-blown-liquidity-crisis-will-pay-government-contractors-ious
Things are manifesting fast, more road signs.
Peace
Nita Johnson writes that Soros also paid dearly for the Obama election fraud to occur.
The only thing God is telling me for some time is to stock up on food & water….you can get gold or silver, but that ain’t going to help! It’s not going to be like you have gold so you can go do some groceries, the famine will be real, so people are going to loot! The only thing to stock up is food, water, blankets, medicine, the simple things, not to make a peofit out of the falling/crashing markets….
What is your suggestion for preserving temporal wealth?
Everdyce,
What about the new underground economy , black market, that will be created.?
All through out history when things go wild weasel a new black market is formed.
Gold for bribing and silver for barter.
Example today of the creative underground economy. I am not endorsing fraud, just making a point.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-18/caught-tape-feds-bust-biggest-ever-food-stamp-fraud-history
On 4/30/16 while pondering Z-3 dreams and market activity; the Lord spoke to me: “I have shown you things also. The crash has already begun. It will come in 3 waves” (from a dream on 1/30/16). “You look to the DOW and don’t see anything. Look to the global economies for this is global. It’s in the Dow also but being hidden by manipulation” In the dream (on 1/30/16) people were all watching this happen on TV and I was given an old fishing lure to find food with. EOD. I was not shown how long this will take to unfold but people will be desperate at the end of it.
For a long time I felt in spirit that there will be hunger in America. Only one person listened, who was a stranger, I felt they needed to hear it, asked me if I was a prophet. I said no, I just felt you needed to hear this. She answered that is very strange as she recently moved with her family and felt the need also to stock up on food stuffs but had not acted on it. My reply was: ‘You got your confirmation’.
I was listening to the CBC radio today as they were talking about “wheat blast” fungus in Bangladesh.
http://www.capitalpress.com/Research/20160518/cimmyt-battles-wheat-blast-outbreak-in-bangladesh
Rick Wiles also spoke of famine coming. David Wilkerson spoke of tripping over dead bodies in the street who died of starvation.Michael Boldea spoke of a wheat field of which 1/3 was burned by fire (present way of eradicating wheat blast).
https://www.handofhelp.com/vision_58.php
Hi Gary Lee: Any idea about what might be a good indicator for watching the global economy as opposed to watching the DOW?
You did not pose the question to me, forgive me if it seems I’m barging in.
The global economy is, of course, composed of national economies. For a global picture, I suggest IMF global “growth” revisions, and the major economies’ individual GDP revisions. (Never projections.) I know that most everyone suggests that they’re all fabricated, and to some extent I agree. But, the slope of the revisions is the tell.
Baltic Dry Index is a simple factor to examine.
Additionally, look at absolute import and export numbers from the major economies. For example, China’s imports and exports have both been dropping for multiple quarters.
Since the USA is still, by far, the world’s leading economy in absolute terms, I suggest the U.S. labor force participation rate, energy usage, and miles driven.
I think this small handful of things gives a good feel for the real economy of the world.
Equity indices are not economic indicators, at least not in this day and time.
Thanks, Dean.
I’ll begin to watch these.
Thanks Dean
This is very helpful info. I’m not all that knowledgeable on economics. My dream corresponded with James 1 month delay Jan 30 2016 and lines up with James 4 seasons macro view. No idea of what the 3 waves equate to but assume its global in nature rather than DOW movement (which will also be affected).
George Soros
http://www.thedailyeconomist.com/2016/05/george-soros-dumps-stocks-to-buy-gold.html
Today from Harvey Organ:
Deutsche Downgraded!!
GERMAN BANK DOWNGRADES DEUTSCHE BANK STATING THAT ITS PROBLEMS ARE INSURMOUNTABLE!
http://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/harvey-organ-deutsche-downgraded/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Silverdoctors+%28SilverDoctors%29
James,
I was finally able to access this site after a couple hours of “internal server issues”….I have to say I was a bit beside myself not being able to log in. I needed my, “Z3 Family” fix! All is good now…:) I missed ALL of you!
TomP, I feel the same way! It was driving me crazy. I check this site every hour or more and that little episode was not fun!
Hopefully we will not have any more problems like we had yesterday.
Ditto, I was busy all day yesterday with our dog “Fred” who would have died of a bacterial brain infection, had we not taken him to the vet (German Shepherd cross). Slept outside with him on the acreage all night (floor was too slippery for him to walk, as he was always flopping over, and couldn’t stay on his feet; in danger of banging his head on the tile concrete floor). Much better today although the hind legs are still giving way and too wobbly to walk.
James, I had a dream about 6 years ago which I may have shared, were this elderly couple that were German lost everything they owned including their house because they had all their money in retirement and the government came in and took it.
I’m not sure if this has to do with the topic, I’ ve heard that an anonymous put a head of a pig in the Merkel office. All this political issues about refugees, and economical austerity, I think Germany is not as good as they was some years ago, in a economic and political way. Germany is one politic entity, but maybe the dream of BMW and Volskwagen represents the two Germanies (East and West) since the moment till today there are significant diferences between both of them.
Amen James! Stay Strong!
As a seasoned businessman, I know that it takes the investment of Capital to realize actual returns. James, you are helping the Church prepare to invest real Capital on this earth to assist in bringing souls to Jesus. We are God’s Voice, His Hands & His presence on this earth (and we need Capital to bring this harvest to fruition).
Tim
I’m not sure if this has to do with the topic, I’ ve heard that an anonymous put a head of a pig in the Merkel office.
DB/Goldman Sachs The Daily Economist.
http://tothedeathmedia.com/major-banks-desperate-for-liquidity-want-you-to-open-new-accounts/
Yep. I think maybe it’s really getting serious.
Why is everyone posting their focus on the almighty $ instead of focusing on preaching salvation to millions who will die and go to hell in the coming crash????????????
God is revealing future events about the markets to His people, warning those with ears to hear so we can relay the warnings to others. He does not want us to remain silent with what He reveals, but to sound the alarm. I know that bothers the devil and his minions because they have controlled the wealth of this world from the beginning, but God has big plans for a great end-time harvest and He is now laying the groundwork by showing His faithful servants how to transfer money from the beast kingdom into His kingdom. Without His help and our obedience, millions more would die lost and go to hell.
Have you ever met a missionary who required no funding? Or any major outreach to the lost? Of course not! So stop criticizing God’s laborers for doing what God has given us to do.
Well said – the website was down for a few hours – wanted to ask:
(1) what was the cause of the problem
(2) whether or not you have considered creating a mirror website outside US
godspeed
-john-
Z3 has always been outside the U.S. The problem was a WordPress plug-in had some bad code in it. Our ace administrator only needed about five minutes to find it and fix it. It took a few hours because it was the middle of the night in his time zone.
I missed the web site when it was down. But I have saved several articles and comments from those who participate. It allowed me to feel confident about my future actions in the stock market without the guidance of this site. (Plus guidance from the Holy Spirit). Thanks to all for sharing.
True that, James Bailey!
James,
Just wanted you to hear another positive result from your faithfulness in dedicating so much time to Z3. Some backstory…my wife, who is a believer, is very reserved and shy’s away from the “supernatural” type experiences even though she is very aware of several miraculous events that have happened in my personal life. When I started reading Z3, I shared with her some of the topics although, she was polite, it was clear she was disinterested. When I started sharing some of my intentions to invest funds and the subsequent dream sequences…she was very skeptical. Lately I’ve been somewhat low-key, but very serious when I bring up current events. So out of the blue, I walk into our great room after a study period and I see my wife on a ladder pulling a larger sheet of wax type paper off the wall. As she pulls it down…in very large script like writing is, “Trust in the Lord God with all your heart. Lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways submit to Him and He will make your paths straight.” Proverbs 3 5,6.
Now that is a statement of what God is doing…he has my very reserved wife placing scripture on our Great room wall in giant letters! I wish I could articulate how so out of character it is for my wife to make such a bold move such as this. Can that verse be anymore relevant to what the Z3 family is going thorough!?
Stay strong brothers and sisters….GOD IS IN CONTROL (yes, I was yelling that).
Wow! What a great testimony. Thanks for sharing that Tom!
Tom P ,
Thanks for sharing that. Sounds like my wife is your wife’s twin sister. She too is very reserved about all of this end time stuff. She thinks I’m crazy and going paranoid . I talk about some stuff with her but keep it pretty low key. I have been praying for her to be open about this.
I talked to her about buying silver , but I got the blank stare look. Well I bought some anyway. She will soon find out it was a good thing.
Thanks to all of you on z3. Just regular people that have a heart for God. God bless you all i
Dear James
I am a regular reader of Z3 and appreciate most of the postings. However I’m a bit concerned that some of the posts and comments seem to promote the idea of a crash in order to take advantages of the profits on the way down. While I realize that we need to be wise and take advantage of the opportunities, we as believers need to realize that the vast majority of our brothers and sisters are invested in a system that takes profits on the way up , are not savvy investors , and stand to lose big in a market crash. Let’s. Not glibly hope for a crash in order to take profits at the expense of our brothers and sisters in Christ. Regards, Forest
The crash has been revealed to me and others by the Holy Spirit as a means of financing His kingdom, which is a good thing and a good idea because it was God’s idea. As He always has, He is pouring out His blessings on anyone who walks closely with Him. Those who choose to disobey and go their own way will have to deal with the consequences of their own choices. We sound the alarm for anyone who has ears to hear, which is all we can do for them. In the meantime, the blessings of God are overtaking all who walk uprightly and His blessings are intended to make us happy and joyful. The joy of the Lord is our strength, so He wants us to be joyful and excited about all of the great things He is doing. There is nothing wrong with that, although it does offend those with religious spirits, the same spirit that has turned our church services into funeral services.
Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full. (John 16:24)
Even Lot’s “sons in laws” (pledged to be married to his daughters) thought he was joking, and didn’t leave the city. Many “Christians” I have talked to, have no ear to hear of judgement or preparation. Indeed many “non Christians” are more in tune to what is happening than “Christians” ( perhaps they haven’t been “vaccinated” with lies).
“He who has an ear, let him hear” is repeated again and again in Revelation. Listening requires humility, pride has no time for listening to others ( remind you of anyone you know?).
Hi Forest,
A similar question was asked and answered by other Z3 members some time ago. I will try to paraphrase in my own words as the response was appropriate. You need not be a savvy investor to stand on the right side of this eventual market downturn. As Jesus said, “He who has ears to hear, let him hear” and “His sheep hear His voice”. The warning trumpets of impending judgment, the least of which will be an economic collapse, have been blown by the watchmen for quite some years now. God has been merciful in giving His children all of this time to notice the storm approaching and to seek His Will accordingly. I am not trying to sound harsh to fellow believers but at this late hour if anyone is still doing “business as usual” with 401ks, IRAs, money market accts, CDs or other financial instruments then they are asleep at the wheel and hopefully God can get their attention before the boat leaves the harbor. Even secular experts can see the writing on the wall so we Christians have no excuse. God bless.
like soros- he is a billion plus short
Is it appropriate to ask here for Trusted vendors of Silver and Gold and if it is I would appreciate USA vendors you have used
I have purchased from Providentmetals.com and apmex.com. They both ship right away. Apmex.com ships a little faster and has a much bigger selection, but their prices are a little higher.
James, I’ve always wondered, when the economy crashes, and the dollar as well, how will gold be used? Will people be trading their gold for food/water/supplies? I don’t assume people will convert their gold to cash if the dollar crashes.
I believe precious metals will be the only real currency for a short season of chaos.
Modern Coin Mart and Silver.com are also reputable. Modern Coin Mart has a good eBay storefront as well. JM Bullion is another reputable one.
https://comparesilverprices.com/ is a good site for price comparisons.
INVESTOR ALERT: Levi & Korsinsky, LLP Notifies Shareholders of Deutsche Bank AG of Class Action Lawsuit and a Lead Plaintiff Deadline of July 11, 2016 — DB
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Two lanes = two track economy
BMW, VW/AUDI… powerhouses. Apogee of technological development.
Germany – powerhouse economy in Europe
Europe – largest trade bloc in the world
Broken engine – Broken engine of growth?
Clamp – trading restriction?
You know we talk about “derivatives” and “fractional reserve banking” and how major banks and companies are exposed at the trillion or even quadrillion dollar scale. And how all of this is the problem and we should have never left the gold standard. Derivatives rely on trust through the pay chain which is basically counter-party risk…sorta like opening mortgage to buy securities…(We will let you control all of this property for only a fraction of the cost now). Same thing the banks and the Fed do with fractional reserve banking. We know that when these hyper ultra leveraged institutions can’t meet their derivative obligations the whole pay chain crumbles like dominos and turmoil ensues
Options trading is a part of this derivatives behemoth. As long as the status quo is maintained in markets in general, everything will work as it has. However, once that shoe drops and the domino’s begin to fall, being in options is more than risky to use as a remedy/insurance against a derivatives pop. It is basically like trying to put out a forest fire with a bic lighter. It is all fire just one is smaller one is larger, but they are made of the same thing.
Even the inverse ETF’s, I think, are at risk of derivatives all just getting shut, as they use options/swapping (again basically derivatives) under the hood to achieve the leveraged returns.
My point is just that we are talking about using essentially the same thing as both the problem and solution and the irony of that. Perhaps there will be a window of time to get clean out of the smaller derivatives game, before it is too late, but these dreams/words being interpreted as options getting clamped down seem to say the opposite and so it may be worth really exploring the full ramifications or all derivative vehicles being shutdown, not just retail options, but perhaps even leveraged ETFS. : (
What might be immune to this uncharted water effect (assuming markets are open at all) are equities that have no connection whatsoever to derivatives/options/leverage/futures/swaps etc at least in terms of a derivatives shutdown that extends to any and all leveraged/derivative gymnastic vehicles in the stock market. Basically anything that gives you the illusion of controlling/benefiting more of/from something than you actually truly own or should.
Forex actually might be safer altogether that anything in the stock market, at least in terms of rigging and shutdowns, etc
Excellent thoughts! I like your illustration of fighting a forest fire with a lighter. I think if there is a “window of time,” it would likely be desperately short, perhaps less than a day.
If there is a “crash,” as many are fond of saying, I think it will not be within equity markets, but, it will unfold so quickly that the investment banks will stop functioning. If that happens, then all of the smaller entities, including counter-parties to our individual holdings of all types, will fail/freeze/close/declare “force majeure”, and all “paper” holdings will be affected.
I think you may be onto something, with the idea of equities being a little safer, not being directly subject to leverage. But, I would also add that anyone employing this as a defensive strategy be sure to get the equities registered in their own name, or better yet, strive to hold the actual stock certificates, if possible.
I think most people don’t realize that equities that they “own” are not owned by them at all. The broker or other entity with whom they hold their account (or another entity higher up the food chain) typically retains actual ownership of the equity. (I.e., you don’t own 10 shares of AAPL, rather, your broker has agreed to act as custodian on your behalf for 10 shares of AAPL.) No one should overlook the fact that everyone with an investment account is in a position to get “Corzined.”
Jim Sinclair of jsmineset.com has previously posted instructions on how to work with your broker to take actual possession of equities (sorry, I don’t have a link, but the instructions shouldn’t be hard to find). Many brokers simply will not do it.
Nathan,
You obviously have a good heart for people and the Lord. This is my opinion so take it as that only.
Noah was told by God to build an ark . He built it for 120 years and got mocked and ridiculed . He had first hand knowledge of what was coming , yet no one listened to his warnings. So when the rain came down Noah had an advantage because he prepared and had listened.
We are not stealing or taking advantage of people when purchasing stocks or options. For ever one contract , someone thinks It is going up, and there is someone else that thinks It is going down.
Just yesterday alone Faz got hammered. Who ever was for it lost money. Whoever was against it made money.
I hope this has helped . Great question BTW
Thanks for the comment. I think I’m hearing from you that everyone (on both sides of the market) is playing their cards as best as they can, so I can’t take responsibility for someone else’s choices to bet against me in an options contract.
I have a question:
Is it morally permissible to buy options in a context like this?
While the post suggests times when it will make more sense to buy ETFs over options, there have been other prophecies (I’m thinking of the 100 acre bear prophecy) that suggest that options will make more sense in very specific contexts.
My concern is that I’m not sure if buying options based on prophecy is taking advantage of the person who writes the options contract who is presumably innocent and doesn’t have access to the prophetic insight that I do.
On the flip side, I know that many options contracts aren’t written by individuals, but by financial institutions, and that God had shaken the market a lot recently warning traders to get out of risky deals. Also, people only write options contracts if they want to, so I can’t really take responsibility for someone else’s purely voluntary decision.
So, I am fasting and praying to learn how to honor God when it comes to options. If you guys have any thoughts, please chime in. I haven’t seen anyone else raise this moral objection, so perhaps I just need someone to explain to me that it’s invalid.
The money to buy call option is the money you can afford to lose. By this standard , call option is not the risky deal. At the worst, the call option only become worthless. If you deem in June US dollars will devalue, then buying July expiry call option should cover the event of the US dollar devaluation.
Nathan, the money need to transfer to God’s people for the kingdom of God by one way or the other. market is a fair system. There is no moral issue.
Options are risky for everyone, but we enter into them willingly so I don’t see anything immoral about them. I have some now and am planning to get more soon.
This is my thought, Nathan:
It is my opinion that you are a child of Almighty God, and that He is proud of you, and loves you very much.
I hesitate to add another comment to the good ones here, but what we are doing is following in the footsteps of Moses and the Israelites during the exodus. We are plundering the Egyptians on the way out:
“Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; and the Lord had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have their request. Thus they plundered the Egyptians.” – Exodus 12:35-36
Someone once brought this question up about the morality of him winning at another’s loss. The answer another person gave was to make sure you are in alignment with the highest in you and let god guide you as he sees and how you are able to interact with that. Your concern should be your alignment with the highest truth, or god in you. Your concern should not be what others are or are not doing. It is none of your concern nor can you possibly know who is on the other end of this exchange. It is a big enough job dealing with our own lives. the person on the other side of this exchange is here for the same reason you are– to profit from his purchase. No one is pointing a gun at his head. He wants to enter the market and so do you, is there something morally wrong with that?
Thanks for the answers. I appreciate the insight. I will continue to pray about this, but I like what James noted: that we’re all in this market willingly. Thus, implicitly, I can’t really take responsibility for someone who takes the other side of an options contract.
William and John. Here’s my strategy. I have shares of FAZ. If the market goes up this week before the weekend, I’m going to purchase calls on Uvxy and Faz . I’m not going to sell my Faz shares because of the “what if” . I can control 100 ‘s of shares of each for a fraction of the per stock price. That is the money I’m willing to lose.
Also looking at EUO but not sure on the timing of that one yet. Also I have puts on BAC,DB and JPM. Those three I think are going to hit.
Indeed, good point to buy call options. Yes, indeed, you can control 100 ‘s of shares of each for a fraction of the per stock price. I bought a call option of a mining company in Nov. Now, it is already $4 in the money. Now it is acting like each option like one share. Amazing. I am in Australia. And in Australia, I don’t have much choices like you have in US. I like to remind everyone in US that, when US dollar devalue 40%, the gold price should increase extra $1276/60% – $1276( current gold price )=$850 alone by the devaluation factor. This $850 increase of gold price should make the gold mining company’s call option very attractive, it should make any kind of gold mining company’s call option become deep in the money by this increase of $850 caused by the devaluation. I have bought some call option just for 1 cents each. Maybe it will become more than $1 each in one month’s time.
Personally, I prefer call option rather than put option.
i feel that what Michelle’s husband said on May 8, was very powerful. who is this Michelle’s husband, i like to get in touch perhaps there is more information.
Technical analysis I subscribe to suggests: ‘Monday’s rally was the final wave up of a corrective wave, which would require stocks to decline sharply from here over the next few weeks. Further, there is a Head & Shoulders top pattern in both the Industrials and the S&P 500 that is complete and suggests a decline is likely over the coming weeks. The minimum downside price targets are 17,000ish for the Industrials and 1,970ish for the S&P 500. The next key information we want to watch for is a Hindenburg Omen. If we get one of those over the next few weeks, we could be setting up for a deeper decline than many are expecting.’
From King World News:
A Coming Event That Is Going To Shock The World
Last year one of the legends in the business warned of a coming event that is going to shock the world. How close is this event to unfolding?
The Disease – Deflation And A World Drowning In Debt
Richard Russell warned last year: “The world’s balance sheet is heavily skewed toward debt and loans. On the asset side of the balance sheet we have gold and silver currencies.
Cure That Will Shock The World – Reset Gold To $5,000 or $10,000!
What would make the balance sheet look saner and increase the asset side? It would be to reset gold to a much higher price. Why is it that nobody is writing about this?
Resetting the price of gold to $5,000 or $10,000 an ounce would be a mighty step against deflation.
Buy Gold & Silver While They Are Cheap And Available
I find it odd that no (mainstream) media has mentioned this. If the price of gold is reset it will be sudden and when nobody is expecting it. The price of gold was reset in 1933, in the depths of the Great Depression.
Advice — BUY PHYSICAL SILVER AND/OR GOLD while they are cheap and available.”
http://www.believeinjesus.com
The FED has to either inflate the debt or crash. However, they are definitely having trouble creating inflation in the poor economy. The recent price increases in oil is their latest attempt to jump-start inflation. The supply/demand glut for oil did not really change but the price went up anyway… more manipulation. Inflating oil works… but it also creates consumption and production cost problems.
Jerry… Your comment to reset gold and the KWN article caught my eye because several people are now considering raising the gold price, as a way to force inflation. Economist James Richards addresses this in his latest article:
http://dailyreckoning.com/elites-master-plan-global-inflation-part-ii/
(My opinions only, of course.)
A reset of currencies against gold has been in the works for a long time.
This speech, from 2002, by The Bernanke, has been the outline:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2002/20021121/default.htm
This is the final step:
“A striking example from U.S. history is Franklin Roosevelt’s 40 percent devaluation of the dollar against gold in 1933-34… .”
There is an article on Zerohedge today talking about Deutsche Bank’s problems being insurmountable. It has 40X leverage on its derivatives, meaning that a very slight jolt could sink the whole bank. To help understand this, notice that Deutsche Bank recently offered a high (5%) percentage interest rate to depositors of new money into the bank as long as they agree not to withdraw in for three months or more. It is obvious that they desperately need capital.
I found an article from two years ago stating that Deutsche Bank had 75 TRILLION dollars worth of derivatives at that time. With 40X leverage, that means a net one dollar move against them in the market could theoretically wipe out 1.2 QUADRILLION dollars worth of capital. Now banks hold derivatives in both directions, so the net losses are theoretically much less. But netting only works if every party behind every derivative comes through and pays what they owe. If anyone defaults, the netting begins to fall apart and create a chain reaction of losses that can easily balloon to become bigger than the entire GDP of nations, or the whole world. For comparison, the GDP of the whole Europe is only around 10 trillion.
Even central banks cannot bail out banks with derivative exposure like this, at least not without setting off hyperinflation. This stacking and leaning of derivatives against each other is part of the modern-day Tower of Babel. When it comes tumbling down, a very large part of the perceived money in the world will simply disappear. All this to support James’ post above from even a common sense perspective.
This is exactly why God will tell us when to switch from paper to physical assets. It’s useless havijg millions on paper when the bank goes broke!
Yes, here is the article, dated May 16:
Liquidity Problems? Deutsche Bank Offers 5% Yields If Depositors Lock Up Their Money For Three Months
http://www.zerohedge.com/print/531433
This is indeed desperate.
So, what’s their plan 3 months from now?… (That would be mid-August.)
That article, dare I say, put the “fear of God” in me.
That Deutsche Bank is in deep trouble, perhaps insurmountable, isn’t news. Jim Willie and others have been yelling about DB, literally, for years now.
What substantiates the genuine fragility of the world’s monetary system and its utter unsustainability is this quote from the analyst (who is not some goof, he is an analyst with a 400+ year-old German private investment bank.):
“On the first path (Deutsche Bank reducing assets), the markets DO NOT EXIST IN THE SIZE NOR PRICING to enable it to follow this route.” (Emphasis mine.)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-16/analyst-warns-deutsche-banks-problems-may-now-be-insurmountable
Think-through what this man is saying: it is NOT POSSIBLE for DB to liquidate their holdings, even just enough to reduce their leverage, which is the point of the article. This is not a function of DB, per the analyst, it is a function of the MARKETS, so the same would be true of all mega-banks.
Again, think this through: what is on the other side of the balance sheet? DEPOSITS. If the assets (DB’s holdings) cannot be sold, then their liabilities (customer deposits) cannot be met, and that is the condition RIGHT NOW.
The only thing that remains is confidence.
Dear James
Do you have more insight about 0.89889 and 0.98889, especially its timing? If 0.89889 ( USD/CHF ) comes out before the Germany Event, it would be a perfect trade for BUY USD/CHF.
I am in a wait and see mode regarding USD/CHF. At first, I interpreted my second dream to be a clarification of the first dream, meaning I never really saw .89889, but as the price kept dropping I began to doubt that interpretation. It now appears to be correct since we are back up to .975. It would take a major event to move it back down to .89889. A more likely scenario is a move up to .98889, which would then complete the big punch and set the stage for the next part of the fight, the move up to 1.35.
Dear James
In your dream you saw the number go up to 1.35, then go down to 1.12 eventually.
Can you confirm 1.12 you saw is 1.12000 or 1.12xxx ?
Can you confirm 1.35 you saw is 1.35000 or 1.35xxx?
Thanks.
I only saw the numbers I shared.
James to quote the end of the article – quote – “”but if JW’s dream was interpreted correctly, options traders could be very disappointed by the payoff.”” – I think this is an important distinction – one I hope we get further confirmation on. – since there are a group of us that are positioning in options and not FAZ shares. If the matter is interpreted correctly – options might be in jeopardy – as in a market shutdown – effectively nullifying options – if it opens past expiration – or other ‘rules on the fly’ might apply. There seems to be a lot riding on this – sincerely and earnestly praying for further confirmation….
I think it would a be better idea to own options as well as FAZ shares. Put money in different baskets. If indeed the option become worthless, it would be a great pity to miss this opportunity.
Hi William – might be a matter of timing – as in – when to close positions in options and park funds in FAZ – there may be a window of opportunity in the early stages of what might be a crash – options would be in jeopardy once the events in Germany (if they do in fact come) – propagate to the main markets – NYSE being the largest – 48 hour window – pure speculation here… we need a clear word on this.
Hi John – new Zealand, I live in Australia. I am thinking to open account in US to trade call option. Do you have any company to recommend for me outside US to apply to open the account to trade option?
Now, the German is telling its citizens to stockpile food and water:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-food-water-stockpile-warning-terror-attack-catastrophe-government-terrorism-a7203376.html
Hi John – new Zealand, I have just found the comments by Lynne NZ from new Zealand about opening an account in TD Ameritrade from new Zealand. I’ll try this TD Ameritrade
There are different markets and different investment vehicles. For example, options trading in the DAX could be disrupted more than the Dow. I have warned about holding long-term options for FAZ, but my concerns are with the company, Direxion, rather than the system melting down. In previous years, I have seen the value of FAZ options drop overnight after Direxion splits shares, which converts standard options to non-standard.
I believe the system will eventually melt down, but the way I understand it based on what God has shown me is the crash of the Swiss franc will be the event letting us know to get out of all paper assets including dollars. Until then, I believe options trading is generally safe. I am planning to buy a small amount of FXE put options in the next few days.
The criminals who are plundering the wealth of the American people make their profits from the very same system we are making ours from, so I don’t believe they are going to allow it to fail yet.
Good advice. People can try the gold mining company’s call option.
When there are huge down moves in the market there always seem to be internet problems and exchanges having problems. Perhaps this is a warning that there may be a shutdown of the options exchange until the market bounces back up or something like that. In August 2015 , during the big down day, I had options which should have been making me lots of money but the spread on the options was huge and I waited for the spread to get smaller but the market bounced and slowly the spreads closed and I got out at a lot less profit than I should have. Just a warning of my experience.
I support the idea that the cars represent German inverse investments and that the put options will rise effortlessly and a lot, but at the peak of their profitability (when the market has dropped most), trading on the stock exchanges will be suspended. Holders of put options will be unable to exercise the processes to make a profit (either sell the option or buy the shares a the low price and sell it at the optioned price).
There-after everything goes down – not because the market rise again (the road don’t exist anymore), but because options will expire while the stock exchanges are suspended and the different instruments within FAZ (as an Exchange Traded Fund) will expire one after the other over time. The fences are limitations that prevents you from taking another route downhill. Removing the logs could be attempts to remove some of the barriers.
Your options will be listed on an American stock exchange. David Wilkerson said the USA markets will crash 2 weeks after the German markets. So sell before you get to the top of the hill – i.e. before the market drops right to the bottom (shorts and options reach their maximum value). Perhaps you should put in a selling order at a reasonable price now.
Regarding the morality of the process: God gave Israel a land with wells that they did not dig, vineyards that they did not plant, etc. We must just realize that it is wealth that God entrusts to us as “talents” to be managed on His behalf. Afterwards it can be used to rebuild a Christian society.