“I placed your king in the position to bring war and judgment upon this land and people.”

My son, My people who are called by My Name have trusted in lying words because they are deaf to My voice and only hear the words of the Hannaniahs. My house has become a den of robbers, of which I have seen all the lies and deceits by those who call themselves pastors, teachers, evangelists, prophets, and worst of all, apostles. These wolves in sheep’s clothing have succeeded in stealing the very life from the sheep and put them under a hypnotic spell.

And now that you have done all these works, saith the Lord, I will remove My Candlestick from your midst. You will rise up early to seek Me, but I will not hear, for when I called unto you, you did not hear.

My son, I have asked you to pray not for these people, neither lift up, cry, or intercede for them, for I will not hear. This people, who call themselves by My Name, neither worship Me nor call upon Me. They call out for the king to save them, to feed them, and to heal them.

My son, I have had enough, and My anger is now kindled hot toward these people. Hear Me now, people who call yourselves by My Name, I am against you, and you will feel My fury coming down. Worship this king if you will, for he does not honor Me, but honors the god of forces. Seek him when famine is on the land and see if he will fill your stomach or only fill his.

My son, I am bringing war to this land to make My People seek Me since they will not seek Me any other way. Just as I took away My Glory from Shiloh, I will take My Glory away from America. I placed your king in the position to bring war and judgment upon this land and people. Wake up, My people! See the king as he really is – not a blessing, but a curse.

My son, pray for My remnant that they not be swayed by the evil in this king. Prepare for war, for it is coming soon, just as I am coming soon – Get ready!! I love you My remnant, hear My voice.

The Father

Scripture Reference:

8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.
9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?
11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord.
12 But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.
13 And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the Lord, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not;
14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.
15 And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.
16 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee. (Jeremiah 7:8-16)

Author: Byron Searle

Byron Searle was in the US Air Force Security Service and worked intercepting and copying electronic communications.. He has been married for over 40 years to a wonderful woman who was also in the USAF.  Byron gave his life to Jesus Christ in 1981, but lately the Lord has led him into a deeper walk and is now revealing secrets.

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Nora
Nora
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April 17, 2018 7:06 AM

Like many, I have been praying for our president. Your statement of “the evil in this king” doesn’t resonate and makes me wonder about your post (s). In Obama there was definite and obvious evil, also in Hilary. Early on before the race Trump was not gung-ho about running; he did not push or set himself up, and it wasn’t as though a large group rallied behind him either. Since he’s been in office, Soros and others with evil intentions have pushed hard to get him out of office, with riots, with slurs, with impeachment. Luke 11:17 speaks of a house divided, and if Satan is divided against himself, how will he stand. I agree that God put Trump in office for His reasons. Trump is a sinner, like the majority of the world (I don’t know his heart, or about a profession of faith). Trump is not a savior, and I haven’t met one or heard any who look to him for feeding/healing/saving (which many did with Obama). There were only 2 ways the election could go, with Hilary it would have been a curse; so now is a curse as well? Meaning whichever the outcome, a curse was before America. I understand that there will be the demise of America, and I believe that the election of Trump was by the hand of the Lord. But I believe the Lord listened to the prayers of His people, and that’s why Trump is in office, he’s there for a time. I believe there is evil in some of those around him, and that the good counsel he seeks is tainted by those of evil, that’s why we are in prayer for him and for the Lord to influence his decisions.

Ken L
Ken L
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April 17, 2018 11:46 AM

Because of our sinful nature, I am sure there are evils in everyone of us, including our President Trump, and God definitely has the right to call out the evil in any of us.

Jen
Jen
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April 18, 2018 5:55 PM

I’ve discerned absolutely *nothing* about Trump which even REMOTELY resembles the Kingdom of God. Pride, arrogance, offense (unending tweets, name calling etc), lust of the flesh, power, greed, LYING and the list goes on. Christians were absolutely deceived. How can we possibly call ourselves disciples of Jesus Christ while putting ANY faith in a man, let alone DJT.
Blessings to all.

Lorna Graham
Lorna Graham
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April 20, 2018 3:45 PM

I feel, as Lois Vogel Sharp said yesterday on her YouTube video, we need to be very, very careful about calling anyone a FALSE PROPHET!! She was speaking about people calling false prophets those who believe that Trump is a Cyrus,etc………She believes it is a very dangerous thing to do!! I have to say that, while none of us WORSHIP Donald Trump, and we do recognize his faults and failings ( which all of us have), we can recognize the Awesome, Sovereign Power of God in bringing him on to the American political stage at such a time as this!! And we SHOULD be praying for him!!! And I wholeheartedly agree with all those who have expressed their recognition of what GOD is accomplishing through him!!!! Let us be united on this thing!!! Praise be to the Lord!!! Blessing, and praise, and honour be to Him!!
As someone has already said, the alternative was, and STILL WOULD BE (in the case of non re-election) FAR WORSE………….!

Donna
Donna
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April 19, 2018 1:19 PM

WHY DO ALL THESE COMMENTS ANNOINT HIM A KING? IN THE U,S, WEHAVE NO KING EXCEPT JESUS.

Scott
Scott
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April 17, 2018 10:02 PM

This is mostly about the chastisement of American pastors…
“My son, I have asked you to pray not for these people, neither lift up, cry, or intercede for them, for I will not hear. This people, who call themselves by My Name, neither worship Me nor call upon Me. They call out for the king to save them, to feed them, and to heal them.”

George
George
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April 17, 2018 5:44 PM

@Nora

Once again…Got a shred of evidence to prove any of this?
‘what Trump says makes me feel good’ isn’t an acceptable argument.
Bush,Obama,Hillary,and the other globalist shill deceivers in power;also know how to get people to blindly follow them through psychological manipulation techniques.

Skills that deliver feel good signals to the brain,and make one abandon all rational discourse.I can’t see how you guys here are being any less cult like;then the people that were crying in happiness,while Obama mind programmed them in his presidential addresses.

Neither is ‘God told told me [or this other guy],that Trump has come to make things better’ a real argument.Not a logical discourse at all.

The hobo on the street corner also insists that God has revealed things to him.
There is a small chance the hobo’s words might be legit.Or he might just be a liar,mentally ill,or hearing from a deceiving spirit just claiming to be God.
It’s just reality that not everyone that claims to have a message from God,actually got it from him.

Thumb down my comment all you want fella’s.
And thumb up Nora’s comment until she has more likes then the dollar value of bitcoin.Your feelings still won’t change a sugar coated fib into reality one bit.
No more then Trump bragging about the fake Stock market,makes it a legit accomplishment.

Nora
Nora
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April 18, 2018 5:14 AM

@George
Interesting that you ask for “a shred of evidence” while you give none in anything you say. Trump is a “globalist shill” according to you. Proof? You give none. What about this one “our presidents have been chosen for us for a long time now”? Proof? Throughout your responses you offer zero proof, yet somehow you’re being “logical”.
God’s word says that God raises up kings (leaders) and brings them down. That’s how I know God put Trump in office. Just as God put Obama in office. They were put there for God’s reasons. The shadowy “they” that you believe are running this world, aren’t running anything = God allows those in position of power (whether elected/connected/wealthy) to do what they are doing. And your “what Trump says makes me feel good” comment
is hilarious; his name calling, immaturity, and reactionary responses are more than embarrassing (not to mention unprofessional/unpresidential).
Read Judges 11 and see another worthless man (Jephthah) that God used to lead. Trump had the needed qualities for the time. So stop focusing on Trump, and focus on the Lord (as many of God’s children are doing). And for all of those who aren’t doing that>focusing on the Lord, He will get their attention.

Lorma Graham
Lorma Graham
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April 17, 2018 7:47 PM

In answer to George: Some of the most astonishingly apt messages I, and others known to me, have received from the Lord, were delivered through an unlikely vessel —a man who had spent most of his life living on the streets, but had miraculously come to faith in the Lord! I believe that such people are closest to God’s heart — and the simple mind, untainted by intellectual dogmas, often hears the word of the Lord most clearly!

Brandon
Brandon
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April 17, 2018 7:12 PM

What you need sir is the joy of the Lord. You know, it’s like a bag of skittles. “Taste the rainbow” haha. I love your rant! It made me smile. Thank you. You made my day.

Thumbs up,
B

tom L
tom L
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April 17, 2018 8:02 AM

Amen in to that

Anna Langston
Anna Langston
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April 17, 2018 9:09 AM

I usually agree with Byron Seale’s posts but this time I feel a check in my spirit. We had two choices: Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. I prayed hard before the election and I firmly believe Trump was chosen for this time. I do not believe God did this deliberately to bring about a curse, but to give us a CHANCE to turn back to God. What we do with that chance is up to us, not Trump. We all know trouble is coming, be it economic collapse, famine, wars, or whatever, but I do not believe God is going to close His ears when we cry out to Him. Donald Trump may be a sinner, as we all are, and none of us has the authority to judge him, but I can tell you that I will take my chances with Donald Trump any day over Hillary Clinton.

MajMatt
Member
April 17, 2018 6:10 PM

Relevant to this discussion:
Heritage Foundation: 64% of Trump’s agenda already done, faster than Reagan

With unprecedented speed, the Trump administration has already implemented nearly two-thirds of the 334 agenda items called for by the Heritage Foundation, a pace faster than former President Reagan who embraced the conservative think tank’s legendary “Mandate for Leadership” blueprint.

“We’re blown away,” Binion said in an interview. Trump, he said, “is very active, very conservative, and very effective.”

What’s more, he said, Trump hasn’t just focused on one agenda area, but he and his team has pushed through administrative moves on foreign policy, deregulation, immigration, tax reform and health care, moves often ignored by the media.

“It is a huge volume that his administration has worked on and it is a huge spectrum of issues,” said Binion.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/heritage-foundation-64-of-trumps-agenda-already-done-faster-than-reagan/article/2650141

Martin
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April 17, 2018 6:26 PM

And President Trump accomplished it with unprecedented opposition.

Ben
Ben
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April 17, 2018 10:01 AM

I agree 100%. Why do you think they hate him so?

Patti
Patti
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April 25, 2018 8:32 AM

Because he is an unapologetic capitalist who loves this country and wants the best for it. He is not “one of them” – a Washington elite pseudo-intellectual that can be bought. He is actually anti-globalist, and as such, refuses to go along with all of the new world order agenda. He has the guts to say “The emperor has no clothes” and they hate him for it.

jerry rigg
Member
April 17, 2018 9:51 AM

Agreed. Given the choice we had, there was no other viable option. We need to look past someone’s defects of character and get down on our knees and pray for them, something I found nearly impossible to do with Barack Obama, a man given over to evil and malicious intent. I personally do not believe we will be invaded in this country and see war that way. I believe we have already been “invaded” by foreigners, both legal and illegal. War has already broken out, but it is a spiritual war due to these “immigrants” bringing in their foreign gods with them. Where I live in California, this is evident when you walk into any store in certain sections of town, where you cant even read the languages on outside store logos, and entire city blocks look like you have entered Chinatown or Saigon. Having lived here for 50+ years, I can also say it never used to be this way in this town.

Bob F.
Bob F.
Member
April 17, 2018 2:39 PM

I can’t believe what I’m reading…the distaint, contempt and even hatred for Donald Trump. This comes from a spirit and it’s not the Holy Spirit! Who ever said he was going to save us? At best, we hope he can right the wrongs committed by his predecessor. It almost sounds like some of you are upset that Hillary didn’t win.
For me, Trump is an answer to prayer, considering where this country ended up under Obama. Thanks to Obama, you might as well call the USA modern day Sodom and Gomorrah and how much worse would it have become with a witch as president! Yes, I said witch!
Is Trump perfect, or of high moral fortitude? Of course not. Does he care about our country and the people? I would say absolutely, positively yes! So here’s a novel concept, how about showing more compassion and respect for what Donald Trump would like to accomplish and a little gratitude to God for giving us a little more time to do His work!

Linda Courtney
Linda Courtney
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April 17, 2018 3:58 PM

Dearly Beloved of the Lord Jesus,
Reading through these replies to Byron’s prophecy it’s easy to see HOW the Prophecies of Jesus are coming to pass. The Lord tells us that even close family members will turn against each other during the times of tribulation or national upheaval. Some in my family, including one of my daughters thinks Mr. Trump is “brilliant” and will not listen to any questions concerning him. I hold out hope for our President, but I’m concerned.

Mainly, I’d like to point out that the people of God owe their first ALLEGIANCE TO ALMIGHTY GOD, and not to ANY man or woman. After that, it’s up to us to try be keep the peace among our family. However, be aware the day is fast approaching when families will turn against one another in the name of religion or national debate. Some of us may be ripped away from our loved ones, so love them while you’re with them. And do NOT allow a debate about national events to cause hatred among the Brethren.

But, ABOVE ALL, DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE DECEIVED, as Satan will use that platform to destroy the most souls. Stand for the TRUTH of the Word Of God always.11 Corn 13:8 “For we can nothing against the truth, but for the truth.” If our stand for the truth of GOD brings persecution; so be it. But don’t allow fleshly debate of national events or world news to make enemies of the people we care for.
God Be With All Of Us.
Linda

Bob F.
Bob F.
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April 17, 2018 8:55 PM

Point well taken sister. Although my tone sounds tough, it’s not in anger. I don’t follow Trump or anyone for that matter, blindly, I’m much too old and wise for that. The point I was trying to make, is that God’s hand is in this. He appointed Donald Trump to this position, at this hour and for His purpose. what’s going to happen is going to happen, most of it God has already ordained. I guess I just expect Christians to accept that. That’s not to say that no one can say anything bad about him, of course they can and there is plenty of things to say… However, the Liberals constantly spew venomous lies and exude such hate and condemnation it weighs heavy on my (and others) spirit. So when I hear the same negativity from fellow Christians, it’s very disappointing. I think the man has a good heart, and genuinely want’s to do some good things for this country. We need to pray for this man not condemn him.

Joshua
Joshua
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April 17, 2018 8:47 PM

Agree Bob F. And Jesus answered and said to them, “It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. Luke5:31.

tim
tim
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April 17, 2018 12:15 AM

thank you Byron and God bless you and your family.

Many things I have read on this sight indicate to me that the demonic control of addictions (porn, drugs, gambling, alcohol) may be broken by some of the things that are coming. Many people will be seeking God and we should be ready to direct them to our King and Savior.
.
Pray Pray Pray. It NEVER EVER hurts to beg and plead to our Merciful (and Just) Heavenly Father for MERCY (thank God that His Mercy is not totally based on our Righteousness or we would all be in deep trouble.

Thank you and God bless you

michelle gibson
michelle gibson
Member
April 17, 2018 5:31 AM

I had a dream two nights ago that confirms this same thing it is really long so I want post. God is going to take out the false prophets and use the ones that truly know him and his word. People are hungry for truth and the time is late

John Barry
John Barry
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April 17, 2018 7:27 AM

Amen Michelle , the LORD has told me , we have reached the point more can be saved by judgement , than mercy . When GOD takes it all away , then we will turn to HIM . Blessings

Jerome Popiel
Member
April 19, 2018 9:10 PM

I believe, John, that judgement must begin in the church. I still somehow think that love is the most powerful force in the world.

John Barry
John Barry
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April 20, 2018 8:33 AM

Brother Jerome Love is the most powerful force , but is it love to allow the human race to continue in its self destructive behaviour and knowing that for every person that enters the Kingdom , 7 go to hell . I see it as mercy for GOD to stop the insanity and return ASAP . Blessings

Lydia Hodge
Contributor
April 17, 2018 10:09 AM

Yes Michelle the false prophets are going to be trapped in a snare. The Lord of host is setting a trap for them. Last night as I sought the Lord concerning “Who is Donald Trump?”, what was impressed upon my heart is,” Who do you want him to be?” I believe he is going to serve God’s purposes on many different fronts including the judgment of the church. It was laid on my heart that Trump is going to preach a Big Beautiful Gospel that will appeal to many. It will be a worldly gospel that tickles the ears. He has the most powerful pulpit in the land, that of the highest office in the land and it has been given to him for a season. This has already started but you will hear him speak of God more and more, a Big Beautiful God that loves his children and he will call people to prayer more and more to seek God but listen very closely because his BIG BEAUTIFUL GOSPEL will be devoid of truth and the power of the spirit and many will be deceived by it.

Michelle gibson
Michelle gibson
Member
April 17, 2018 8:19 PM

Lydia, in the dream there was this man leading a huge gathering and he was up on a stage and he had a wooden cross on display. people were asking questions about it but he was studdering and had a lost for words. I made my way up front and started answering the people’s questions. The guy leading the service asked me to come and sit by him. I noticed he had an ear piece and someone in the crowd will given him the answers to the questions but he had a bad connection so he couldd not hear very well. Then all of a sudden a man came up from the crowd and said, give it up, your guy in the toriquis suite is gone you have no more help. Then the people were coming to me for help and I was praying for all their needs.. so I am not sure who the man in the torquis suite might be. Except Satan himself. Later in the dream people started putting out baskets to collect money. The people were bringing baskets of money and prayers but when they got up front they would throw the prayers in the garbage and keep the money. I got so angry and I started digging in the garbage to gather all the prayers so I could pray for their needs

Lydia Hodge
Contributor
April 17, 2018 9:27 PM

Wow thanks for sharing that dream. It is a perfect picture of the false prophets. They have nothing real to offer the sheep and they are robbing them and leaving them spiritually destitute. They will be exposed for who they really are and God will provide true shepherds who will lead his sheep to living fountains of water. It sounds like the man in the turquoise suit is definitely the enemy feeding lies and half truths to God’s people.

Donna
Donna
Member
April 19, 2018 12:58 PM

I want to address the people who want to talk so ugly about our current President. So many defended obama by saying if we just pray for him, God will turn him around. We now have a President Trump begging for Prayer and Guidance from the Christian Holy GOD OF THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS. PLEASE CHECK YOURSELF AND UNDERSTAND:
Matthew 12:25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand
JESUS ALSO SAID THERE WOULD WARS AND RUMOURS OF WARS (Matthew 24:6) And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
OUR PRESIDENT IS SIMPLY ACCEPTING THE HAND HE HAS BEEN DEALT, HE IS NOT THE CAUSE OF IT.CAN WE JOIN TOGETHER AND DO THE SAME. COME QUICKLY LORD JESUS.
Revelation 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

IN LOVE, DONNA JEAN CLAMPIT

Lydia Hodge
Contributor
April 19, 2018 10:38 PM

The Lord has impressed upon on my heart to examine all things through the light of his word especially now in these end times. He is my ultimate authority. Of course we should walk in love and pray for those in authority. We must also earnestly contend for our faith. To ask or “beg” for prayer is a good thing as long as that prayer is directed to the one true God in the Name of Jesus. I’m not inclined to believe that just because God is mentioned and prayer is requested that we are being led in the light of the word especially having heard mention many times of the three great Abrahamic faiths and how we all serve the same God. I cannot and will not ever concede that unbelieving Jews (those that haven’t accepted Jesus as savior) and Muslims serve the same God that I serve. I can’t look the other way when those leaders that claim to be Christian celebrate a Hindu holiday in the Oval Office. There is a false antichrist spirit rising in our land that will engulf those that don’t stand for the truth that is found in Jesus alone. He is our only place of safety in these deceptive end times. I pray we all have ears to hear and can rightly discern the true from the false.

Lydia Hodge
Contributor
April 20, 2018 4:15 PM
Sonia
Sonia
Member
April 19, 2018 4:07 PM

Amen Donna ! I agree !

christine chapman
christine chapman
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April 20, 2018 5:34 AM
Lydia I wasn’t going to comment but I felt the nudge of the Holy Spirit to do so…I believe the True God of Abraham , Isaac & Jacob is still on the throne…I agree with everything u have said..Yes we r to pray for all our leaders & those in authority that we may live Godly & peaceable lives…however..In King David’s time …He sat as a King of Israel ..( chosen by Yehovah) ..The Father.. We know David fell into sin & we know the result of that …should I say consequence….that was directly in the Land of Israel …for the governing of that city …that David ruled over @ the time…thru much trial David repented for his sin ..with Bathseba…but both suffered the consequences with the death of their first child… then Solomon was born…but even Solomon had issues…don’t we all. until The Lord in his grace & mercy deals with our issues…..so the Leadership of that day was Judges & Kings chosen by God himself…hence the verse..”praying for our leaders & those in authority.”….I’m also thinking of Deborah who was a Judge… Mother In Israel…so God’s pattern was very different to the political parties we have today..of course there were not so good Kings as well. .IN USA. Republican …Democrats etc…each country a bit different…here in Aust. we have The Prime Minister which follows the English version a bit more…Labour , Liberal party …with many independants & the Green’s party….plus many others. thinking the word Democracy came from Greece….but have to look @ what the true meaning of Democracy is. I know Donald Trump .has said before that he was Presbyterian way back…saw a video where he held up his old family bible but when asked if he has/had ever asked for forgiveness of sin..he answered the interviewer..(pause)… Read more »
Lydia Hodge
Contributor
April 21, 2018 10:22 AM

Christine,
Thank you so much for your comment. Your confirmation means more than you know. This subject causes so much divisiveness in the body of Christ and yet it shouldn’t. It is so important to follow the word in all things including praying for our leaders but also examining the Spirit behind their words and actions. There is clear evidence (if people would search for it) that both our president and Vice President while both claiming the Christian faith, recognize and support other faiths as equally valid. That definitely reveals a more “multi faith agenda.” My challenge to anyone is have your spiritual ears open, listen to what is being said, pray diligently, compare all things to the word of God. Things aren’t always what they seem. People may appear to represent our Christian faith but listen closely because what you hear may be the words of a dragon.

Sarah
Sarah
Member
April 17, 2018 8:56 AM

The Lord said one name to me. It was during a time fasting, prayer and immediately after having been prayed for by an anointed minister of the Lord Jesus Christ, the name: Mike Pence.

Whatever you may think about Trump, he was compelled to choose Mike Pence. I reject the premise that Trump is a king. I believe he is an imperfect person who God is using for His purpose. He probably had a lot of junk in his life that doesn’t add up to the gospel. If you looked in my past I have more than enough to take to the cross. You could accuse me night and day. Because I belong to Jesus Christ, He takes it on the chin for me and now the accuser is accusing Jesus Christ in the eyes of God the Father, as I understand the good news of our salvation.

Ming
Ming
Member
April 16, 2018 10:30 PM

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for ALL men; For kings, and for ALL that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have ALL men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
(1 Tim 2:1-4)

So, let us proclaim this great promise from God for our US President, Mr. Donald J. Trump –
No weapon that is formed against our President shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against our President in judgment HE shalt condemn. This is the heritage of our President, one of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of ME, saith the Lord (Isaiah 54:17)

Praise the Lord, for HE is Good, and His Mercy Endureth forever!

Michael Brennan
Member
April 17, 2018 7:15 AM

We should pray and intercede for our president and the nation. I agree with you.

However, if Byron is sharing a word from the Lord can the Lord condemn Himself? Was Jeremiah condemned for speaking the word of the Lord in judgment of wicked rulers and a wicked nation? Of course not!

Be careful, my friend. Examine this king of ours and use discernment. Why do you call him a servant of the Lord? He has openly said that he has never asked for forgiveness and feels no need to repent. Look at the fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.

Look around you. Do you see a reprieve or restoration? I do not. I see an increase of unrepentant sin. I see a prideful nation. I see a declining economy. I see falsehoods and hypocrisy in most of the churches. I see a nation on the precipice of a war that it will not win. I see a people that have chosen lies and deception over the truth.

All leaders are established by the Lord and Donald Trump was given to us for judgment our sins. America’s cup runs over with iniquity. America will fall because she wanted a political leader to save her rather than Jesus Christ, the only source for salvation.

We must let pride die and humble ourselves. We must repent and pray for mercy for this nation. Her days are numbered.

Linda Courtney
Linda Courtney
Member
April 17, 2018 11:38 AM

I feel Michael has presented the most brilliant reply to this subject of all. WELL SAID! God allowed Mr. Trump to be put in office. However, regardless of who was put in office Gods Judgment is upon America.

ASHLEY
ASHLEY
Member
April 17, 2018 4:51 PM

Father IS in control. Did he not use heathen Kings in the past to fulfill his plans? Maybe we were given a pint of moonshine or a decanter of fine wine (both still booze!) as a voting choice. If we were supposes to have a glass of sparkling pure water on the ballot it would have been there.. Just thinking out loud…Ashley

Jerome Popiel
Member
April 19, 2018 9:23 PM

Indeed we need God’s judgement because He judges justly. But He has put Trump in place to condemn the leadership and not the nation in general. I believe we will see many indictments and many will fall.

jerry rigg
Member
April 17, 2018 10:01 AM

You hit on a key point…..IF he is hearing from the Lord clearly on this matter. Ive also heard this same “line of accusation” from liberal Hillary supporters concerning Trump, about he never asked forgiveness for his sins. I really wonder if that is something he meant to be taken literally, I believe it could have been true at a point, BUT, I believe he has asked God for forgiveness. If we pray for Trump, can God not work on his heart and bring about amazing change?

eric
eric
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April 18, 2018 12:11 AM

In my Heart I think Your right…and I do believe that we should “Examine this king of ours and use discernment”…..Rev 6:2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
From the Jewish perspective ….. “The White Horse” a country or a group of countries that have blessed/stood by “The State of Israel” since 1947/48.
The Rider will most likely be a champion for “The State of Israel” and for the country or countries that the White Horse represents.
“Had A Bow”…..The Rider has Military Might.(no arrows no bow…just a stick)
“All leaders are established by the Lord”
“And a crown was given to him”
This crown is used differently than the crowns used for the beasts, horns and heads in Revelations (look it up, Greek} . This is the crown of a victor or champion.
“And he went out conquering and to conquer”
I see some military being used but the rider will have Economic Might as well. 6 months of pacing back and forth..1st reply ever….Thanks for your post….. eric

von17
von17
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April 17, 2018 1:51 AM

good verse Ming, I do not put my trust in Trump but I do pray for him and his cabinet daily. The challenges before him make mount Everest look like a small hill–he needs our prayers.

George
George
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April 17, 2018 6:12 AM

Yeah..you’re going to feel REALLY dumb when the economy implodes under Trump,and he’s ultimately revealed to be just another globalist shill.

You people have got NOTHING to prove he was sent from God..Nothing.
All you know is that he tells you what you want to hear,as does the pastors and evangelists that hero worship him.

Show me where in the bible it says that such a person will step up an save this nation [MAGA}.It says quite the contrary actually.

Tribulation worse then the world has ever seen.And things will get so bad that the world will embrace a man completely empowered by satan,to bring back some semblance of normalcy.

Trumps presidency has been very enlightening though.It’s showed me just how many even so called ‘deeply devout’ Christians are easily decieved. Many of the churches can’t even see through the Trump/MAGA delusions,yet they claim they will stand up against the ruses of the antichrist?
Lol yeah ok..good luck with that guys.

Linda Courtney
Linda Courtney
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April 17, 2018 3:21 PM

Well, the Scriptures promise us that even “THE ELECT” will be deceived. In the Strong’s the meaning of the word ELECT usually refers to the Christians.

Jodi S
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April 17, 2018 2:08 PM

Brothers and sisters! We can note to George in love that his tone sounds as though he is casting judgment against those who disagree with his position: true. And we can also join together and agree with George that it is not up to any single man as to what will happen to this nation, no matter who he might be. God allows every person in power to be there, and by that power alone do they rule. We cannot speculate as to where Trump is spiritually. I will say that listening to Ronald Reagan or Jimmy Carter vs. Donald Trump, I have strong doubts regarding his faith, but as I am full of sin, I will not pass judgment — that is between Donald Trump and the Almighty. The fact that no issue in our nation has been the slightest bit turned toward the LORD of Heaven and Earth, and President Trump has not called us to collectively PRAY against the evil we face is true. But none of that matters. We face judgment now. God understands our need to pray for repentance and to repent and act to support HIS commands publicly, so even that should not be argued amongst us. Let us glorify God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and His Kingdom, being faithful to the Word and know that whatever the moment in time, He reigns. Join hands in the Spirit and Worship continually! Love to every single one of you!

Felicity
Felicity
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April 17, 2018 9:03 AM

We were given two choices. Are you suggesting the alternative would have been better? Blessings.

George
George
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April 17, 2018 4:39 PM

@Felicity

You were given the ‘choice’ between the typical Republican globalist puppet,vesus the Democratic Globalist puppet.
You chose the right hand this time..whoohoo..good for you.

No..actually there never was a choice,because our presidents have been chosen for us for a long time now.You are just given the illusion that your silly little vote matters.

Matthew
Matthew
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April 17, 2018 7:24 PM

Your ‘moral’ arrogant superior nonsens is appaling.

Matthew
Matthew
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April 17, 2018 7:27 PM

Appalling

Lynne NZ
Lynne NZ
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April 17, 2018 7:06 AM

Hmmmm…”You people “…..always a good start….
Blessings! !!!!

George
George
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April 17, 2018 4:37 PM

@Lynne NZ

Hmmmm couldn’t help but notice your complete lack of a counter argument.’You people’ meaning Trump fanboys/fangirls that delude themselves with this 5D chess nonsense,without a single shred of evidence to back it up.

Lol and ten people apparently thumbed up your zero quality post.Guess it just goes to show that in the end the folks commenting on here also prefer feel good delusions,to any hard questions or truth.

No worries fella’s;if it’s the feel goods you want;the antichrist will give you all those you want,when he arrives.He’ll be like Obama or Trump on steroids charismatically. They won’t hold a candle to him influence wise.

Care to take another stab at defending Trump logically folks?
Or are you just going to retain your cultlike mindset,and pretend that your Political champion and your ideals of him are beyond scrutiny?

Abby
Abby
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April 17, 2018 7:50 PM

George, while I respect your opinion and your right to voice it, keep in mind the words that you use to express them and the tone. Satan loves to spread fear and discord among God’s people, and if we feed into that fear and anger, we spread division. Instead of focusing so much on Trump (though it is important to watch him and other political figures), focus more on the Lord, and on preparing your heart for what is to come. That is the number one priority right now, for everyone, whether Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Conservative.
God bless you!

tom L
tom L
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April 17, 2018 7:55 AM

If HILLERY got in we would all be in concentration camps now I think Trump is like Cyrus that through Trump we are given time (grace) to prepare for the Lords purpose.The economy is going to crash no matter who is in office and war is coming to our country. It was the prayers of the saints that put Trump in office. And by Trump and make America great again the conspiracy of the deep state and the plan to overthrow America is being exposed. The beast of Rev is raising and will rise that world government is keep back by the prayers of us believers and in the end those that do not love their life unto death will be purified and all of us will pass through the fire if any one works remain they will have their reward the others will eat from the leaves of the tree out side the city and not be able to enter the city until they learn what they must learn and should have learned here God is the judge and his judgments are just and right.

George
George
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April 17, 2018 5:27 PM
@Tom L “If HILLERY got in we would all be in concentration camps now” There is zero proof of any such claims. all it boils down is that you are stuck in this silly programmed mindset of Trump being good,and Hillary alone being evil. When you actually do your research you’ll find that high level politics,are as fake as pro wrestling.These people will mock and snipe at each other all the time in front of the public eye.But behind the scenes they are perhaps even close friends.It is all a complete charade,and it is very silly to continue to abide in such a useless and corrupt poltical system. “now I think Trump is like Cyrus that through Trump we are given time (grace) to prepare for the Lords purpose.” Well thats what you WANT to think anyways. However using logic rather then feelings; evidence seems to indicate that hes just another globalist shill,and part of the plan. Just because he says what you want to hear,doesn’t make him what you perceive him to be.No more then the liberals falling for Obama’s ‘change we can believe in’ good feels made him a better person.these people are carefully coached in body language,covert hypnosis,and other psychological techniques to affect your perception of them “The economy is going to crash no matter who is in office and war is coming to our country.” thats right it is. A nice logical observation there. Before you support Trump further;maybe you should ask yourself why he told the truth,and called the economy ‘fake’ while running for president. But once in office he immediately turned, and claimed it was legit and great suddenly.You are being led around and set up for a big fall. ” It was the prayers of the saints that put Trump in office. And… Read more »
Martin
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April 17, 2018 6:23 PM

Hillary is a WITCH. “She will be exposed. You have no idea how evil she is” (LORD to Neville Johnson).

jerry rigg
Member
April 18, 2018 10:21 AM

If you ask me, you have a witch and a warlock in Hillary and Bill, partners in criminal activity and traitors to our country.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
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April 17, 2018 5:51 PM

George, if you don’t know if God cares for America, then your issues with Trump are meaningless. Know that God loves you and died for you as the Son became human to die for our sins so that we don’t have to suffer eternal punishment for not repenting, if we believe in His sacrifice for us. God bless.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
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April 17, 2018 11:20 PM

George, if you don’t know God cares for America, then your issues with Trump are meaningless. You’re wasting your time.

Colton
Colton
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April 17, 2018 10:32 AM

The economy was going to implode anyways… at least those with ears to hear have been given more time to prepare thanks to Trump being elected. The swamp is very much being drained but some people are too oblivious and stiff necked to see that.

George
George
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April 17, 2018 4:51 PM

@Colton

Yes the economy was always going to implode,because that was part of the globalists plan to bring in the NWO all along.

But did you ever consider that Trump was chosen to preside over this;because it will make him the most hated man in recent history,when it happens and causes many to suffer?

They have positioned him through propaganda to be the figurehead for the Christian evangelicals,Conservatism,and Nationalism.So when the world falls apart during his presidency,all those ideals will become greatly hated by extension.

That was what the luciferian elite wanted to happen all along.And you guys were pulled in by the prophets an pastors proclaiming him to be Gods helper,and all his fake MAGA talk.

Nope the swamp is NOT being drained.Show me exactly HOW what you claim is being done in reality.

This is just more of the good cop Vs bad cop bull drama the elite use to further their agenda.Before it was us vs Alqaeda,Osama bin Laden,and finally ISIL.Now Trumps is just furthering the globalist agenda,and falsely claiming he’s just opposing the ‘fake news’ and ‘deep state’.

People are decieved into thinking that Trump,Putin,and XI are fighting the NWO;when in fact they are part of the plan to bring it into being.
They always control both sides of the opposition.the only one Oblivious and stiff necked are the ones actually buying into this silly charade.

Christy
Christy
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April 17, 2018 11:06 AM

Yeah. It’s not Trump’s fault. Place the blame squarely where it belongs please. It’s the ban/kers!!!!!

George
George
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April 17, 2018 4:56 PM

@Christy

But Trump is still working for them unfortunately.
Sorry but the idea of Trump being a crusader fighting to destroy the globalist empire doesn’t magically become real,just because folks want it too.

Wheres the proof he is taking them down?How do you know that it’s not just a carefully scripted play,where they control both sides?
Bush/Cheney vs Alqaeda/Bin Laden ring a bell?

Further more wheres the biblical proof that Trumps is going to deal globalism a hard blow?
Sorry but my bible tells me that the globalist plan will succeed,and that the antichrist will have his world government.Trumps not going to change anything.

Robert B
Robert B
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April 18, 2018 4:37 PM

One thing that is obvious George is that Trump is not a globalist. Makes no sense that the mainstream media and the deep state would fight so hard against him if he was. He has cut funds because America was paying more by far than anyone. The pope can’t stand him which is a good thing. All the former presidents hate him which is great. The problem with Trump is that the deep state is so massive that he is having a hard time sorting it all out and he keeps appointing those types by mistake. Trump was put in for the purpose of exposing all the corruption and removing it imo. He will also help Israel

Jerome Popiel
Member
April 19, 2018 9:43 PM

Yes Robert, that’s one thing that confounds me is all the bad appointments! We have a do nothing attorney general and the assistant is a traitor.

Joa
Joa
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April 17, 2018 7:48 PM

The single most important thing is the freedom of Christians to freely preach the gospel in the public arena. Supreme Court and federal appointments made by Trump are in our favor. Not what we would get from Hillary or Obama

Joyce
Joyce
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April 16, 2018 10:45 PM

Ming I pray that you will be delivered and set free from your delusion that Donald J. Trump is saved and is a servant of Almighty God. According to MY God he is definitely NOT, though I pray that he will become saved someday. Trump is just as evil as Obama and Hillary.

jerry rigg
Member
April 17, 2018 2:01 AM

If believers are falling short, it is in the urgency to do exactly as your scripture indicates, pray, and not only to decide to pray if things start to look bad, but pray without ceasing for Trump and for Gods to open believers eyes who are putting more trust in Trump than in God ….to bail us out of trouble or bring prosperity.

TerriJ
TerriJ
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April 16, 2018 10:08 PM

Seeking the Lord in earnest on how to prepare. Yes, fasting, prayer…time with Him. I have never lived (most of us haven’t) lived with war on our shores. He asks us to prepare…I feel quite anxious, in what ways do we prepare?

Sujit Thomas
Contributor
April 17, 2018 6:08 AM

TerriJ,

I would also encourage you to maintain an attitude of praise and thanksgiving, no matter the circumstances. If you cultivate that habit now, it’ll be second nature to you soon enough, and you’ll therefore not give in to despair when the world grows dark.

I have the following testimony for you:

I was out ministering with a friend on the streets of Chennai. He, unlike me, is into full-time ministry and depends on the Lord for provisions for himself and his family.

Suddenly, his smartphone, whose screen he had recently replaced, dropped from his hand. The screen cracked, and the phone went dead. Guess the first words from his mouth? “Halleujah!” And he said the word with a very cheerful smile. To my knowledge, there was no grumbling or cursing that escaped his lips either at that point or later. I heard soon after that not only was he able to get his phone repaired but also was able to get a cover for it.

John Barry
John Barry
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April 17, 2018 8:31 AM

I love it Brother Sujit , GOD takes care of HIS servants . I work with Linda Heche’s prayer team some and three times in the last two weeks I have been talking to the LORD / just visiting and off hand asked the LORD about something and within 8 hours Linda will email me with the answer that she does not no I have asked the LORD . This morning I was walking my dog and just kind of talking with the LORD about taking some money out of savings for some medical needs , which I do not like to do . When I got back in the house there was a message from Linda Heche ( she is 600 miles away ) saying the LORD had just told her I did not need to worry about money , just do as the LORD leads . Could not have been over 30 minutes from talking to the LORD till the answer was waiting on me . GOD has our backs ! Blessings

Sujit Thomas
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April 17, 2018 9:52 AM

Amen!

TerriJ
TerriJ
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April 17, 2018 6:12 PM

Thank you for this encouraging response!

Christopher Harris
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April 16, 2018 11:55 PM

I gave this link in the other thread but here is a recent video I did on preparing if you are interested, may God bless you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjOa64UdXdg

von17
von17
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April 17, 2018 1:53 AM

In one way you are fortunate to start late. I listened to all the prophetic warnings in 2012, now all my rice and beans spoiled and I don’t have money to restock.

Tom
Tom
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April 17, 2018 2:32 AM

Let your heart not be troubled by this. I believe the Lord sees your faith and heart in listening to the prophetic warnings of those who have brought spoken words consistent with His workings throughout the Bible versus those who speak what the soul WANTS to hear. Your attempts to prepare are a kind of demonstrating faith through works as spoken in the book of James as believing the warning and spending money in preparation instead of something of immediate pleasure such as a new TV or vacation, etc. I do not believe He will let you suffer thru being too soon in doing those things. Trust Him for His supply when these things begin to happen. If all you can afford to put away let it be perhaps a bag of rice or beans that you can go to each day drawing forth what you need and that He can multiply to be sufficient. Perhaps it will be like the meal and oil in I Kings 17, or like the fish and loaves in Matt. 14 and 15, I know of testimonies of miracles of both ways. He sees the heart and there is a world of difference between one who has tried to prepare and yet is not really able to do so and one who just ASSUMES that they can do what they want now and God will supply if things should somehow get bad. His Word never fails and He will honor faith and obedience. Phil 4:19 -My God shall supply…

Christine Beadsworth
Member
April 17, 2018 6:41 AM

according to the Russians who are preparing their people for war, rice should last 8 years! The link is somewhere on Steve Quayle’s site.

Lydia Hodge
Contributor
April 17, 2018 9:28 AM

You know something that has really bothered me of late is the lack of preparation by our government in case of nuclear war. I mean granted I’m sure the government is well prepped and have shelters and escape routes for themselves in case of war, but what about for the American people? When I was a young girl in school we used to have drills. I’m curious why we don’t have drills or fallout shelters? It seems Russia is well prepared for theses things but I feel like we have been left hanging as a nation. Maybe they have them in the larger cities and I’m just not aware. I would love anyone’s input on this.

Linda Hasche
Member
April 17, 2018 10:30 AM

Hello Lydia,
Here’s the simple answer: there is a planned destruction of MOST of the USA population, according to Deagel.com (with info obtained from the following sources, per Deagel . . .
Sources: US Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, World Bank and European Union.:
http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx

2016 population – 324 million
2025 population – 54 million

Simplifying: KILLING off 270,000,000 Americans within 7 years
Your taxpayer dollars at work.

Linda Courtney
Linda Courtney
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April 17, 2018 11:34 AM

AMEN.

Velva
Velva
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April 18, 2018 9:39 PM

WOW!!

Linda Courtney
Linda Courtney
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April 17, 2018 11:33 AM

If you study it out you’ll find that our Government has drilled hundreds of underground shelters complete with all kinds of luxuries, and tons of food and water for the ELITE of this nation. That is why in Revelation the time will come when the wicked ones living in these “protective” shelters will literally cry out for the ROCKS to fall on them. The Elite will see these is NO escape from Almighty God.

Antwon
Antwon
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April 17, 2018 10:27 AM

Sister Lydia, it’s part of their depopulation plan for American citizens. The Father knows this and this is why he’s telling us to prepare and don’t depend on the government.

Mike M
Mike M
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April 17, 2018 9:56 AM

Keep your rice dry, dry, dry. I store mine next to a dehumidifier. Some folks may have a hard time with this, but I have purchased long-term storage food from LDS. It’s very reasonable on their website. Unbelievably so for things with 30 year shelf life compared to other stuff commercially available. They offer just the basic staples (rice, beans, pasta, potatoes, veggies and dried fruit), nothing fancy. Also canned goods last a very long time. Rotate your stock and use your pantry as part of your routine.

Christine Beadsworth
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April 17, 2018 10:13 AM

do you have a website link for folk to follow up on this? I can’t order all the way from South Africa as postage would make it exorbitant ( and the stuff would probably be pinche don the way!!)but those in US can do so.

Mike M
Mike M
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April 17, 2018 10:24 AM
Tex
Tex
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April 17, 2018 12:22 PM

I have gotten food from the LDS store as well. The dehydrated onions and carrots are very good and we use them in soups and stews all the time. Fair Warning: Flour stored in cans will eventually taste like metal after 2-4 years. I buy everything but the flour. Instead I keep flour in a 5 gallon food grade bucket with a gamma lid, use it up, refill it and keep it rotated.

Christine Beadsworth
Member
April 17, 2018 10:43 AM

discovered that they have stores in many nations!! Check out store locator.

Mike M
Mike M
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April 17, 2018 10:48 AM

Sweet South Africa! See if they will ship from that location. In the US, no matter how many cases I’ve ordered they only charge $1.00 for shipping per order. Part of their mission is to get people prepared.

Just Joan
Just Joan
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April 17, 2018 1:48 PM

This company also provides long-term storage food. Augason Farms. The quality seems to be good, and prices aren’t too bad either.

https://www.augasonfarms.com/

von17
von17
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April 18, 2018 12:35 AM
ok for all the rice experts learn from my mistakes. Russia is cold, rice may last 8 years in cold climate. I live in Philippines it is always hot/humid. yes I put it in sealed plastic containers. But I think there is a diff between rice bought in Western countries and rice bought locally where its grown. Western countries get best rice, bananas et al. For example bananas in your supermarkets beautiful, big perfect but bananas in my locality maybe 2 inches long–ugly. the best food is inspected to send to west. you get the best quality rice and all foods in your western supermarkets I bought local rice in ph not just for me but I was financing a feeding program for kids in ph. I asked locals how to store and studied on line but locals had no clue they eat everything same day –they have never stored as they dont have money to buy more than their daily need so i got no help from people who eat rice 3x a day their entire life. though I took a lot of steps internet recommended–plastic sealed containers I think local rice had eggs or larvae eggs in it that hatched and spoiled all the rice eventually If I had money to do it over I would cook the rice (kill any bugs in it)nbuy a dehydrator and dehydrate it and when needed later just boil in water like cup of noodle soup. another advantage of dehydrating is its a lot lighter and easier to transport if you need to travel with you. I had a stroke haven’t had an income in 6 years so this is not easy for me to recuperate on. But learn from my mistakes and being early to listen to warnings is not always… Read more »
Christine Beadsworth
Member
April 18, 2018 1:15 AM

Hi Von17. You are not alone. I started preparing in 1999 and have had to open my storage boxes multiple times since then and get rid of spoiled expired foodstuffs. Even some of the tinned goods went bad!
I even had provisions and a suitcase in the trunk of my car for speedy getaway but in Jan this year, it all got stolen. I was so disheartened at the thought of starting all over again. Then the Lord said to me gently, “you have prepared well. Now you will see what I have prepared for you. ” In the end, we are going to need His powerful hand of help., no matter how we have prepared and He is able to keep us safe from the hour of trial. The woman who fled into the wilderness in Rev 12 was FED and kept safe!

Dana Brown
Dana Brown
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April 19, 2018 10:12 PM

Christine, I started prepping in 2014-15. I bought lots and lots of canned food, other things sealed in Mylar bags with oxygen absorbers, in 5 gallon food storage containers, boxed, dehydrated, and freeze dried food. And gallons of water. Well, after a few months my water jugs sprung leaks all over my carpeted walk-in closet which smelled mildewy for months so I had to throw away many gallons of water and have the rest stored in our spare bathroom tub, except for two heavy duty 5 gallon water containers I put in plastic storage bins . So only enough for a short term emergency. The canned foods were coming up to their expiration dates, and I was getting fed up with food and supplies all over the upstairs rooms. Then I saw some messages Glynda Linkous had received from the Lord that said we cannot store up enough for our needs and if we do people will steal, but what we share with others (which I had planned on doing anyway with unsaved and family) God will multiply, and provide for us. So last year I donated a lot of food to the local food bank, things that we don’t eat on a regular basis like canned Chile, canned ham and beef, canned soups and stews and kept things we eat which I rotate. I now plan on trusting God to supply when the food we have kept and will share, is gone. One nice thing is having an extra pantry shelf unit in the spare room so I always have extras of thing on hand when I run out.

William
William
Member
April 18, 2018 6:24 AM

von17,
When we are sure we hear the message from the Lord ( maybe through other ), we need to act on it to our best knowledge or ability ( although we need to pray for it first ) . It is a habit. We need to have this habit. We can’t try to ” fine tune ” the message from our Lord. The Lord saw how we acted on. Although you maybe in difficulty right now, don’t forget the Lord is your God. Pray, I am sure He will open a special door for you.

Bill
Bill
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April 17, 2018 9:59 AM

Christine, I bought some half gallon canning jars, filled them with rice, put in a couple moisture absorbing packets, sealed the lids. items will keep for an extended period as long as no air gets to them.

George
George
Member
April 17, 2018 5:55 PM

@Von17

What kind of Rice and beans did you get?
If you had dried white rice and dried beans they should still be good for many many years.That is providing that you keep bugs/pests out of them,and prevent moisture and mold from getting into them.
They are expensive but if you’re looking for longevity you might start buying some of the freeze dried food from companies like Mountain house.
Like I said they are expensive,but they can last up to 30 yrs is stored properly.So if you buy one here and there slowly you could have quite the collection within a few years.And they will last longer then typical canned food.

Christopher Harris
Member
April 17, 2018 9:16 AM

White rice, beans and lentils all store for a long time if you keep them in a secure weatherproof container. A good thing to use is plastic barrels with a screw on lid with a rubber seal, you can get these for about $30 and may have contained olives in them, or something similar. Weather and vermin proof. I’ve used them and just clean it out and let it dry before putting the bags inside.

Just Joan
Just Joan
Member
April 18, 2018 12:10 PM

Other things that will keep indefinitely — honey (if it’s real honey and not the high fructose corn syrup mixture sold as honey in most groceries) and raisins will keep without spoiling. (if kept sealed and dry)

About storing rice — I’ve seen YouTube videos of people who put rice in glass canning jars, heat them in the oven, then seal the lids. I assume that’s to kill any bugs in with the rice, keep them from hatching.

You can also make hard tack like they used to give soldiers in the Civil War. (search YouTube for instructions). They’re made with flour + water, then baked slowly until very dry. They can get bugs in them, but will keep for a long time. To use, you’d have to soak them in soup or something. Or you can crush them and use like crackers.

You could also use food dehydrators or the new freeze drying machines to preserve food.

And planting a garden to grow your own food is a good idea too. If only because food costs are going up so much. Many of the storms have affecting farming areas in Florida, and the interruptions will drive prices up.

William
William
Member
April 17, 2018 9:50 AM

Where can you get these containers?

Christopher Harris
Member
April 17, 2018 10:10 AM

I’ve seen them at some fencing/rural supply stores, or you can lookup “livestock drum or barrel” or “olive barrel” on gumtree (for US craigslist?) About 200 litres in size there are smaller ones and a wider mouth is better easier to get bags in and out, check has a rubber seal for lid when you buy, can fit about 5-6x 20kg bags each drum, hard to move once loaded but can be tipped on ground and rolled (careful of rocks) then stood back up (2 person easier) or bags taken out first to move. Those that have had safe food related product are better since you could use it as water barrel as secondary purpose. For water storage on property rainwater tanks from roofed areas are good. The barrels can be kept at property or in a trailer (portable).

William
William
Member
April 17, 2018 10:27 AM

Thanks. Christopher.

TerriJ
TerriJ
Member
April 17, 2018 6:25 PM

I have obtained many 5-4-and 3G buckets with lids from grocery store bakeries…icing comes in them….most are free. They are food grade and they smell pretty good! I wash out…and also use 5G Mylar bags sealed with oxygen absorbers..keep in bucket.

Daniel
Daniel
Member
April 17, 2018 4:05 PM

Here is a primer on identifying food-safe plastic containers like buckets (icing buckets from bakeries, Tractor supply 5 gal food buckets).

https://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Food-Grade-Buckets

Carol
Carol
Member
April 17, 2018 2:33 PM

I’ve ordered food grade buckets and gamma seals from Amazon. Prime ships free, no tax.

Dana Brown
Dana Brown
Member
April 19, 2018 10:21 PM

Winco grocery stores sell 2 1/2 and 5 gallon round food-storage plastic containers as well as gamma lies and the regular ones. Also Mylar bags, oxygen absorbers, (which didn’t keep walnuts I stored in canning jars from going rancid😦!) Winco and Wal-Mart both sell big cans of dehydrated foods.

Ken L
Ken L
Member
April 17, 2018 6:39 AM

Hi von17, I was thinking of storing white rice and beans myself so I researched online and it said that if stored properly that white rice and beans have indefinite shelf life? So I am just wondering if you didn’t store them properly or the online information is wrong.

Jodi S
Jodi S
Member
April 17, 2018 2:38 PM

Agree for sure on rice, unless critters got into bags

jerry rigg
Member
April 17, 2018 10:04 AM

Awhile back, we stored wheat in metal bins and they kept well for years, the key was putting in dry ice into the bins before sealing them. If that might work for rice I dont know for sure.

Ken L
Ken L
Member
April 17, 2018 3:31 PM

Special deal from Dave Hodges with 25 year shelf life, $99 for 4 week emergency food supply.

https://preparewith.com/Dave.Hodges

Travis
Travis
Member
April 17, 2018 12:14 PM

Lol, I did the same thing. I have stocked up now 3 times and have had to sell before items go bad.

Jodi S
Jodi S
Member
April 17, 2018 2:33 PM

I hear you, Von! God will miraculously provide if needed. Manna, remember!!

Jeremy Stager
Jeremy Stager
Member
April 16, 2018 11:41 PM

I have been preparing over the past year, I bought 1 years worth of storable food at infowars.com they have a great store with survival gear, food and accessories. Also buy cases of water while they are cheap only $2.50 a case, I have about 15 cases but still feel like I need more. A good water filter by alexpure the big carbon filters that can filter stream water is good to have.

Mike
Mike
Member
April 16, 2018 10:29 PM

May the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, keep your heart and mind in Christ Jesus.

Fear not.

He will never leave us nor forsake us. Take comfort in that.

Bernie Pavilonis
Bernie Pavilonis
Member
April 17, 2018 1:28 PM

Big gut check in my spirit while reading this post. There was no grace or mercy in it. The scripture portion “In judgment, remember mercy” came to mind. Certainly we should pray (hard and often) about our President (love him or hate him), and about preparation. I do know of a few Christians that are ga-ga about Trump, as if he can do no wrong. I know far more that understand he is not a savior/healer/provider like people who idolized Obama did. And there was NO WAY any genuine Christian could’ve voted for Hillary. I put no trust or hope in Trump for my provision or protection. And yes, certainly judgment will be coming our way (US). We can only pray for mercy and time to prepare. It is definitely time to pray and fast and repent of all sin, and seek God while He may be found

Guido Spinozzi
Guido Spinozzi
Member
April 19, 2018 12:05 PM

I must agree with Nora & Anna Langston! I believe I would not have prolonged freedom, to give-out Gospel Literature & street preach, if Hillary Clinton were president! We must redeem this time! “The time is coming, when no man can work.” Please visit: Lyn Leahz – You Tube, & ignitedChurchlive.com!

Thank you, dear people!

Hisfairone
Hisfairone
Member
April 17, 2018 6:52 PM

As I read these posts I wonder how on God’s green earth will the church ever be unified in Christ. LORD help us all see the TRUTH! Let all your people hear your voice and help us discern Your voice from the deception of the enemy when it comes. Continue to separate the wheat from the tares.

Sujit Thomas
Contributor
April 17, 2018 11:37 PM

Hisfairone,

I remember reading somewhere that what is impossible with men is possible with God.

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