On December 29 2015 I had a dream about gun confiscation coming in the future of America.
There were only three people in this dream and most of it centered around myself and a co-worker, which was a young lady with long brown hair. We worked for the same company and reported to the same boss. We did not work in an office, but travelled separately all over the United States.
I understood in the past we had worked together well and had been united in our purpose and mission. However, more recently a division had arisen between us. She became increasingly hostile and aggressive toward me. Eventually she started seeking to kill me. She carried a hand gun because she intended to kill me. I carried one too, but only for self-defense.
During most of the dream, she was hunting for me as I travelled all around the country. She was the hunter and I was the hunted. I travelled over beautiful mountain ranges always staying one step ahead of her. In all of my travels, I never saw any other people.
I was very pleased with my success in outsmarting her and avoiding her, but she was frustrated in her failure to find me and kill me.
Our boss was an older woman with blond hair, shorter than my co-worker’s hair. As the division between myself and my co-worker grew, our boss was completely on her side and shared the same hostility toward me. The more time passed, the more I understood both of them wanted to kill me.
The scene changed and I was now standing outside on a patio overlooking a mountain range. She had managed to find me and I saw her walking toward me. I felt confident I would foil her scheme again by escaping as I had so many times before. It had become somewhat of an amusing game to me. However, just as I was about to make my last second getaway something unexpected happened.
As she approached me from my right side, our boss showed up and approached me from my left side. Both of them were holding hand guns aimed at me. I was backed into a corner with nowhere to go. I was holding my gun in my left hand (which is odd because I am right handed), but it was aimed at the ground, not at them. So they had me trapped with no way of escape. I could tell by the hostile look on their faces they fully intended to kill me unless I dropped my weapon, so my choice was to either die or drop my weapon. Reluctantly, I dropped it. That was the end of the dream.
Interpretation:
I believe the company we worked for represents our country, the United States of America. I believe there were no other people to be found anywhere because I represented the entire Christian population and my co-worker represented the entire non-Christian population.
I understood we had been united in the past, but had grown more and more divided until we eventually became mortal enemies, which represents the history of our union and the current trend of increasing division and hostility against Christians.
I believe our boss represented the leader of our country, and was the same lady I saw in another dream, which I shared in my previous post, U.S. Government Planning Mass Murder of Americans. In that dream, I saw a woman was left in charge of our country after Obama completed his assignment here and left the country. He had chosen her to complete the mission that he had started. I don’t believe she was elected, but rather appointed and left in charge.
In another post, Hillary Clinton Orders Confiscation of Guns from American Citizens, I shared a dream, submitted by Gregg Bassett, in which he saw Hillary Clinton in the oval office ordering gun confiscation. Here is an excerpt from his dream:
I had the following dream on 10/20/2015 – simplified, I saw Hillary in the oval office. I did not see anything about how she got there, whether she was elected or perhaps appointed, but she was there and was giving orders, instructing militants to go and confiscate guns from the American people. In all three dreams I clearly saw her face.
Gregg’s dream was confirmed by a vision received by Brian Carn. Brian saw a woman like Athaliah, the daughter of Jezebel, who would lead our country after Obama. I shared his vision in my post, An Attack Worse than 9/11 is Coming to America. Here is an excerpt from his vision:
I had a vision maybe last week and in the vision I was having a conversation with Hillary. I said to her, “Are you sure you want to be President because the next eight years are going to be worse than the last eight years?”
She smiled and said, “Yes.”
When she said that I heard military jets flying over my head.
I am really prayerful because before Obama came in office, the word of the Lord came to us and told us that Ahab and Jezebel would rule for two terms. I didn’t call them that, God did. And the Lord said that after they got out of office, after that, Athaliah would come next. Athaliah was Jezebel’s daughter who was more domineering than Jezebel. See Jezebel was sneaky because she ruled behind Ahab, but Athaliah was domineering and killed even her own children to get in power.
So this next movement that is coming to America, which is really demonic, is a feminist movement, very domineering, which is dangerous because the feminist movement is the fuel to the homosexual agenda, the pro-equality.
Based on my previous dream, Gregg’s dream, and Brian Carn’s vision, I believe an evil woman will one day replace President Obama. I believe she could possibly be Hillary Clinton, but I was not shown her identity. Whoever she is will take action to disarm the American people as one of her top priorities.
I believe the reason why my co-worker was a young lady full of hostility toward me, a Christian male, is because she represented what Brian Carn saw, a future feminist movement arising in America during a time when an evil woman leads our nation. At that time, feminists will show demonic hatred and great hostility toward Christians. Women will increasingly take on roles that have traditionally belonged to men, including aggressive and hostile behavior. However, they will have very limited success in their persecution of Christians until the female leader of our country exerts her authority to help them. When that happens, Christians will run out of escape routes and choices because the power of the federal government will bear down on us. Our only choices will be to either surrender our weapons or be killed.
I believe what I saw in this dream was the beginning stages of the rise of the antichrist. The Bible describes a brief period of time coming in the last days when God will allow Satan, through his demon possessed antichrist man, to make war against believers and to overcome us.
It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. (Revelation 13:7)
Although this spirit has been waging war against Christians from the beginning, the war has started ramping up and will continue until we see this prophecy fulfilled.
Antichrist Federal Government:
Our federal government is now completely controlled by the spirit of antichrist. Their evil plans include twisting scriptures like Romans 13:1 to convince pastors to cooperate with their efforts to control and relocate Christians. Sadly, they have had a lot of success because many pastors don’t know the scriptures.
Romans 13:1 instructs us to be subject to the governing authorities, but keep reading! The next part of the verse tells us there is no authority except from God. In other words, we are only obligated to obey our governing authorities if they obey God because apart from God they have no authority!
Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. (Romans 13:1)
According to alternative news sources, agencies of our federal government, including FEMA, NOVAD and DHS, have already recruited over 28,000 pastors to help them bring Christians into submission. Dave Hodges, founder of the Common Sense Show, interviewed Pastor Walt Mansfield, who was one of the first pastors to join the Clergy Response Team. From that interview Dave learned “their initial and primary training was to tell their flock to obey the DHS version of Romans 13.”
Pastor Mansfield attended several briefings and he could barely believe his ears. He learned of the government’s plan to enact martial law as well as to implement forced population relocations. Mansfield emphasized that when martial law is enacted, the enforcement would be immediate. In other words, family members will be separated from each other and part of the training that the clergy received was how to comfort separated family members.
Pastor Mansfield emphasized that the FEMA/DHS drills were predicated on bioterrorism. This is exactly what my relocated FEMA source told me before he and his family left. The pastors were trained to go to homes were people refused to be relocated by the authorities and their immediate job was to convince the reluctant to willingly go to the relocation camps. Ostensibly, this was to be done in lieu of sending in the SWAT teams.
I asked Mansfield if FEMA camps were real and he stated that much of the clergy training focused around this scenario of pastors operating within the forced relocation centers. The main goal of a pastor assigned to a FEMA camp was to bring order and encourage compliance with DHS requests, hence, the emphasis on Romans 13.
The pastors were forced to sign non-disclosure. Interesting, the pastors were told not to quote Scripture. The DHS document which was prepared for the pastors clearly stated that Scripture had been used to “oppress” people in the past and the presenters strongly discouraged its use. (Source: Common Sense Show)
Any government that tries to take away our God-given rights has forfeited their God-given authority because they have no authority apart from God. Therefore we are not obligated to obey them.
Right to Bear Arms:
Our founders identified the right to bear arms as an inalienable right, which is a God-given right that no government has the right to take away. In 1791 they made it the second amendment to the Constitution stating, “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
The following quote from Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence and America’s third President, warned if we ever forgot our liberties are the gift of God, it would only be a matter of time before we lose them.
God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed! I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and His justice cannot sleep forever.
Today we are in danger of losing our right to bear arms because we have forgotten it is the gift of God. Anyone who tries to take this right away from us is not from God, including the federal government.
Conclusion:
In my dream, I dropped my weapon to avoid being killed, but I don’t believe that means we should disarm. I believe it was only to show the extremes to which our government will go to confiscate our weapons, even killing anyone who refuses.
A wise man sees trouble coming while it is still a long way off and hides himself from it while a fool proceeds on his way and are punished for it. (Proverbs 22:3)
I believe the dream was given because God wants His people to know the scheme of the enemy while we can still do something about it. Today we still have choices, but if we stay on our current path our choices will become increasingly limited until eventually the only choices left will be to disarm or die.
What should we do? Each person must answer that question for themselves, which means each of us must seek direction from God for ourselves. Some might be given specific assignments requiring here while others might be instructed to leave the country. As always, the best place to be is where God tells us to be and the safest place to be is as close to Him as we can possibly get.
“I love You, O Lord, my strength.” The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. I call upon the Lord, who is worthy to be praised, and I am saved from my enemies. (Psalm 18:1-3)
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Sujit,
I understand where your coming from and respect your thoughts and concerns, but here’s my thoughts.
Where does evil draw a line when they pick up a weapon? A weapon is a tool just like a shovel or chainsaw etc, it does the job for what it’s intended purpose is for. If I dig a mile long ditch or cut down a forest do I look at them as my saviors since they provided me the means in doing it? Absolutely not. Do I give praise to God for helping me achieve the end result, absolutely. If someone looks at them as anything more than what they are, then evidently there is something wrong with that person even before they pick up the tool. We must remember that God and Jesus are the ultimate victor here, it’s not about us, it’s about his kingdom and bringing in souls for his kingdom. We each must do what God instructs us to do insomuch that whatever we do brings glory and honor to God.
I agree.
I’m a single female in my 50’s. I have never owned a gun except until a few months ago. The Lord spoke to me in regards to preparing for the coming storm and he included arming myself in the list of directions. I initially was not comfortable with buying a firearm for home defense, but now after seeing the ominous storm clouds approaching, I’m so happy that I obeyed the Holy Spirit. People make being led by God complicated. They override His leadings by overanalyzing His promptings. I am learning every day to just allow him to MOVE me and not resist Him. We really have two choices. We can wait for our homes to be invaded and possibly be brutalized or we can protect ourselves and our families until death. I choose to stand up and resist the enemy with every fiber of my being and trust my Heavenly Father to do the rest.
Not trying to be argumentative with anyone, but does God look more favorably on a person who allows an evil filled person to kill and destroy ,than a person who defends family,friends and those who are unable to defend themselves from said evil person? I was always taught to fight for and protect those who were unable to do so. As God has given man to be the head of the household and also to look after and protect the weak and elderly,it is not only our duty but our obligation( by any means available )to do so even if it means laying down our lives in the process, is that not the true love Jesus talks about? Laying down ones life for another? As for me and my family we will not surrender to evil or stand by and watch as innocent people are killed and tortured.
May Gods protection be will us all in the perilous time’s that are coming.
It is not so much the desire to defend and protect that one need question. It is where do I draw the line when I pick up a weapon. Yes, I may have picked up my weapon to defend those who cannot defend themselves, but that weapon gives me power, and with power comes the danger of it corrupting me. Because we are all imperfect human beings, no one is immune from this danger. Very often, I might turn into the very monster that I wanted to defend against when I picked up a weapon. I may begin to look upon my weapon as my savior rather than Christ, himself, or worse, the people I defend might look upon me as their savior, forgetting that I am a mere man, and the attention and glory that comes my way through their praises may puff me with pride, all to my detriment.
The intention is all good, but even scripture attests to the inherent danger (Judges 7:2). Everyone has to decide for themselves. Scriptures attest to the fact that while God can supernaturally deliver people from a powerful enemy, he can also use individuals and armies to accomplish the same. But, the danger of pride, hero-worship, and corruption is there.
Hi Sujit,
Your comments show that you have a conscience. Those that would kill us do not have one, the intent for harm is already in their heart. Those that hate God, love death
Hi Karen,
I was backing up what your wrote in reply to Cliff, not as criticism. I apologize if my words conveyed the opposite intention.
Sujit, I knew that, no offense taken…as I said you have a conscience. That is a God thing, a good thing. This is a weighty matter, huh? I agree with you. You have put thought into the responsibility of protecting and defending. By contrast those without a conscience do not consider those things, while we must. In this country our basic necessity of preserving our lives, the most basic human instinct, is gradually being taken away. We have to think about these things, seek the Lord for our own personal direction, then we have to settle it in out own minds. Blessings.
Hi RLB, You have spoken well.
Great discussion came from this post James! Very helpful and timely ! I see more clearly about
Defense of my loved ones, resisting evil, taking stand for Jesus. This topic came up in our home group just recently and I have been given some ” Word Ammunition”—Thanks!
Just as the word says “Take the gospel to the ends of the earth and to every creature” paraphrased.
Also ” Don’t throw pearls before swine” are both True—Yes! Holy Spirit is our “Context”
Thanks to all who gave great questions & great answers Blessings to all!
James I think now I should tell you about a dream I had on December 4 2014 I was in a hotel room it was my last night living in ca I was 34 the dream was very short I dreamed I was raptured and was immediately brought back with others we were on a hill or mountain and there was people who were running towards us they were rioters or zombies and they wanted to kill us I put my plams out light come from them and hits the people who were coming after us the dream ends here I woke up with a headache after this so I’m thinking it was from me but after a year of reading this site I’m not so sure now it was I’ve always been 99& sure it was just me but I think you should judge this just the same thanks James
I just watched a documentary on the blood moons and the 6 day war in 1967. Israel had to defend itself or it would have been wiped out. But along with defending itself, God did some supernatural things where the enemy saw angels surrounding them and they surrendered.
As for the dos & don’ts of gun ownership and the WHO and WHAT the 2nd Amendment is in place for:
In the increasing deterioration of the climate we all face, would we (now) still enjoy this very freedom we exercise on this site; the ability to exchange thoughts, ideas, convictions and be an encouragement to each other? Just as the jail cell must have bars, and prisons must have walls, imperfect humans given governing authority can be tempted to exceed their lawful boundaries. When this occurs, it is sometimes at the cost of life or limb to innocent, law abiding victims. If we did not all live in a fallen world, with it’s various physical realities, only then, the 2nd Amendment and it’s provisions would not be necessary.
Was the revolutionary war needless? Was George Washington a Christian man?Of course not and Of course he was, through his writings you will see that God was his major influence and protection through that war. If he had layed down his arms as the British intended/expected him to do (just as this gov is trying to do now)and surrendered there would be no America but just an extension of England the very people and tyranny our fore fathers had escaped from.God was the deciding factor in the war as he will be in the one coming. Whether people decide to surrender their arms that’s their choice, we all must follow the direction God leads us not our own thinking or anyone else’s advise.
As a non-American I see some challenges to your article, while I am not against gun ownership, it is difficult for some of us to wrap our heads around the gun culture that exists in the United States. A case could be made that it is anti-scriptural, as Jesus speaks of peace, turning the other cheek and loving the enemy/sinner.
God also said justice is His to carry out, and the American gun mentality says to defend yourself at all costs and even kill someone if necessary. I find no support for this thinking in the Bible. Many fundamental Christians are against violence of any kind including gun ownership.
We need a sober,balanced debate on this controversial topic. I am not trying to pick a fight with you, only to see where scripture can guide us and shed light on the issue.
The scriptures are clear on this topic. God supports our right to own and use weapons for self-defense, as proven by these scriptures:
“If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.” (Exodus 22:2) So there is no guilt for his bloodshed because God recognizes the right of the occupant to use force to defend himself.
King David wrote, “Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle;” (Psalm 144:1) So again, God is in agreement with using force and even provides our training.
35 And He said to them, “ When I sent you out without money belt and bag and sandals, you did not lack anything, did you?” They said, “ No, nothing.”
36 And He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
37 For I tell you that this which is written must be fulfilled in Me, ‘ And HE was numbered with transgressors ’; for that which refers to Me has its fulfillment.”
38 They said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough (Luke 22:35-38)
So Jesus clearly recognized our right and our need to own and carry weapons because He instructed His disciples to buy swords.
There are no contradictions with any of the teachings of Jesus to love our neighbor. We are not looking to harm our neighbor unless our neighbor comes to harm us or our family. We use force only as a last resort to stop them, and these verses make it clear God supports our right to defend ourself.
My friend I am afraid you are taking the above scripture verses out of context and cherry-picking verses that suite your argument. Why rely solely on the OT when Jesus overturned the “eye for an eye” mentality with the golden rule?
You are not very convincing James, and I would say there are many Christians who totally disagree with your viewpoint.
Hi Cliff,
I don’t think James Bailey has said anything about taking revenge. We know taking revenge does take some forethought and that is the eye for an eye kind of thing I think you are talking about.
But self defense when in immanent and immediate danger of life or limb by means of intrusion to sanctity of home and person is not taking revenge, but demonstrating live saving action. Our life is the most precious expression of God’s love, that we are able to live in Christ. I think it is a personal matter between the man or woman and the Lord, as well. I am against violence, but my self defense is not the responsibility of the one that would kill me, but it is my responsibility.
The Constitution in the land is the highest state authority. It does not rise to the authority of God, yet it has given us the right to bear arms. The right to bear arms was written as a means to deal with tyranny. Most Americans have not thought about that aspect. Without the 2nd amendment secured, then the other amendments to the Constitution will also fall underfoot. The Constitution and Amendments are the basis of our governance. Our higher authority is the Lord.
I think we all have the duty of defending our lives, and the lives of our families, whether that is by owning a gun, or something else, is personal.
I know of one man that most decidedly heard from the Lord about his own life, that he was not to carry or even own a gun. He struggle with this for a couple of years, then made the decision. On an evening coming home from an art show, he was flagged down by some men. He was slain in a most horrible and gruesome manner, and left on fire. He had taken a stand in God, not against guns, but that he was dealing with the knowledge of own martydom. The man was a Bible teacher and had built a home church in the country.
I’ve seen and heard people who engaged in antisocial behavior such as murder and thuggery testify that Jesus turned around their life and who gave up their old ways to become ministers of the gospel. It does not condone their earlier lifestyle. Rather, it is a testament to the redemptive power of God and his unimaginable love for a sinful humankind.
One may be called to be Gideon or Stephen, Joshua or John the Baptist. It is not whether one should or should not carry a weapon that one should question. It is whether I am willing to obey what my Heavenly Father has called me to do.
Let there be no doubt in our minds that sometimes taking up arms even when we don’t want to is an act of love, but laying down one’s life for others is no less such an act. They are not mutually exclusive. Plenty of scriptures attest to this, and they’ve already been quoted.
Satan comes to steal/kill/destroy. When an intruder breaks in to steal/kill/destroy, they are doing the works of satan. Just like we don’t cast our pearls before swine, or feed idols, we don’t present our Godly blessings to satan. In fact, we are to overcome satan. When an intruder is stealing/killing/destroying, you should consider overcoming.
My husband is gone all day while I am left home alone. If a man broke into my house and tried to rape me and if I had the chance to defend myself by shooting him what do you think I would do? I would shoot the man in a heartbeat. If this was your mother or wife or girlfriend, would you tell them to lay there and get raped because you are supposed to love your enemy? You are twisting the Bible.
Life is God’s gift to man, and no man has the right to take it away, but, and this is a very big “BUT,” if one uses this life to steal, commit arson, theft, robbery, rape, and harm his/her neighbor, he or she forfeits that right to life.
If I were in your shoes, I would shoot too. Yes, men too… they are not immune from the danger or circumstances you’ve just described.
Hello James, this is news just reported on RT –
New Year, new gun control: Obama to issue executive order on firearms
https://www.rt.com/usa/327614-obama-gun-control-executive-order/
Thanks!
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James, isn’t it incredible how God is using this website? He has multiplied your efforts and expanded this ministry exponentially. I pray that God brings us all together (all the Z3 readers, people who contribute to this, etc.) for a special fellowship in Heaven. So we can all put faces and names together. I’m so thankful to the Lord for this website. Thank you James, for being a vessel – and for creating a place where all of us, of like-minded faith, can join up together. I believe we won’t be able to do this for much longer. But as long as we have the freedom and Internet access, it’s blessing countless people. Thank You Lord Jesus. Please bless and protect this site, James Bailey, and all who read, write in, and contribute. Amen and amen.
I second that, Jolie!! Amen! Amen! Amen!
Thanks for your feedback and encouragement Jolie! I agree this will not be allowed to continue much longer. I am guessing we might have 5 or 6 more years before we go underground, but hopefully longer.
Amen, Jolie! Beautiful and true thoughts……
Hi Jolie
Again from me Jolie.
Z3news is a special place on the WEB
I agree Jolie! I’ve begun to pray Father God’s Blessings & protection over my Z3 family daily too! I’ve wondered how long we have access and I am grateful for each day. There is a preciuos peace that comes from this community.
Thanks James for tirelessly keeping us informed on what the Lord is saying to His people & to the world at large. May the Lord bless you & protect you & your family as we March forward in the name of the Lord, Yeshua Ha-Mashiach. Of note, the weapons we need to keep in our arsenal are The Word!
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
II Corinthians 10:4 NKJV
Eye-opening! It lead it to search and read the 33 page FEMA training course for pastors. I am not only extremely disturbed by this, but even more disturbed by the fact that our own pastor preached a sermon this year on Romans 13. I found that too coincidental. The thought that many pastors would sell out their congregations and encourage them to go to a concentration camp is unbelievable. I see more and more churches going underground and forming in people’s homes.
One can fight or surrender. If you surrender, then death will not be quick, I think. Should the Jews have fought the Nazis? Does surrendering to evil, help anyone – even the evil doers? I will fight and if I perish, then I perish. Christ said – Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. … Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. He did not say that you should not defend yourself. Resist the evil ones. The ones calling for gun confiscation are those criminals who have trampled on the law of the land, the constitution. We should not cooperate with them.
The two swords in the garden were for fullfillment of scripture and not for self defense. If they were for self defense he would have told the other disciples to go get theirs and they would have all fought in the garden.
You have misquoted what Jesus said. He said the prophecy was “he would be numbered with transgressors”, which was fulfilled when he was crucified between two thieves, as proven in this verse:
27 They crucified two robbers with Him, one on His right and one on His left.
28 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And He was numbered with transgressors”. (Mark 15:27-28)
So the prophecy He referred to in Luke 22:35-38 had nothing to do with the swords he instructed his disciples to buy. Also, the only reason Jesus told His disciples not to fight back when the Jews came to arrest Jesus was because He had to lay down His life to save us. He willingly laid down His life for us, so that episode had nothing to do with our God-given right to defend ourselves.
So now back to the original point. He instructed his disciples to buy swords, which He would not do if it was wrong to carry weapons or wrong to use weapons in self-defense. There would be no point in owning them if it was wrong to use them, which is consistent with the scriptures shown below.
Please explain these verses:
“If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.” (Exodus 22:2) There is no guilt for his bloodshed because God recognizes the right of the occupant to use force to defend himself.
King David wrote, “Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle;” (Psalm 144:1) So again, God is in agreement with using force and even provides our training.
James Bailey,
FANTASTIC job on this article, AS USUAL!
Thanks!
James, I wish you would have mentioned the difference between the KJV and the NIV versions of Romans 13:1. THEY ARE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT!!!
I just compared the NAS to the KJV, but they seem to be saying the same thing to me. Where do you see a difference?
KJV says “subject to higher powers.” NIV says “subject to governing authorities.” Same scripture Hitler used. Go to Bible Hub, and you can check out all the various versions, for a side-by-side comparison. Check this out; NIV Luke 2:33 “The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him.” Joseph was spoken of by name, not as the child’s Father, in the KJV. Yes, Joseph raised Jesus and was a earthly father figure, but God is the Father of Christ, that passage discounts the virgin birth. Not sure if you’ve seen, but California has already passed a law for LEGAL gun confiscation.
This is a troubling subject to many Christians. to fight or not to fight. I have guns and intend to use them to provide meat for family and those in need. I intend to use them to protect against murderous marauders intent on stealing, killing, and destroying. As in James dream I will keep and use them as long as i can but when it becomes impossible as in the dream I will probably drop them as James did. the right to keep and bear arms was given to us indirectly by our founding fathers in the constitution and not directly by God. Jesus told Peter to put the sword away for all that take up the sword will die by the sword as James would have died had he not yielded. In Revelation 13:10 right in the middle of describing the time of the beast we are told that he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword, here is the patience and faith of the saints. I personally don’t intend on leaving here before my work is done. Who knows what our Lord can do with us in an internment camp, In Rev.20 the souls seated on thrones who refused to worship the beast died by beheading rather than a bullet or a missile fired from a drone..
Jim McCollam,
You bring out some very interesting points.
Just as our founders believed, I also believe the right of self defense is from God, not from man.
In Matthew 26:52 Jesus was not opposing self-defense, but He was opposing putting our trust in our weapons rather than God. We are instructed to live by faith in God, not by trusting in our own might or power. His statement was similar to Zechariah 4:6, which says, “Not by might, or by power, but by My spirit, says the Lord of hosts.” Other scriptures listed below prove this is the correct interpretation of this verse.
Revelation 13:10 also has nothing to do with self-defense, but is all about our God-given destiny. Some manuscripts read “He that is destined to captivity will go into captivity; he that is destined to the sword will be killed by the sword.” Again based on the scriptures listed below, I believe that is an accurate translation of that verse.
God’s position on our right to self-defense is revealed clearly here. “If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.” (Exodus 22:2) There is no guilt for his bloodshed because God recognizes the right of the occupant to use force to defend himself.
King David wrote, “Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle;” (Psalm 144:1) So again, God is in agreement with using force and even provides our training.
Also, Jesus instructed His disciples to buy swords. “And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.” (Luke 22:35-38) So Jesus clearly recognized our right and our need to own and carry weapons.
Jim, I agree with all you said but would add.
Yeshua before he left Told the disciples in Luke 22:36 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
I believe Yeshua taught there is a time to best show the Strength,Peace, and Power of Father YHWH thru passive means to the point even of physical Hardship (Matt 5:41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.)
But Luke 22:36 clearly and definatively demonstrates that there will come times that Christians are commanded by Yeshua Himself, to place the necessity of obtaining defensive arms above that of even cloathing or comfort.
In Luke 22:38 Yeshua is speaking not to the masses, but His inner circle of disciples – and even then additional clues are given. Notice that though there are 11 remaining disciples – 2 swords were deemed sufficient.
Clearly the dependence was to be on the Father, rather than in the strength of man or his weaponry.
I would also think there only being two swords would indicate that few (sheep-dogs) are called to earthly means of defense.
Even taking it so far as to the point of accepting physical pain (Matt 5:39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.)
Several of the posted visions reference an unknown woman in the white house who is running our country. Each time I read this… I think about Mystery Babylon and the Harlot riding the NWO beast in Revelation 17.
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
That is also the interpretation of Mark Mallett, a Catholic writer on these days…the US is the Harlot riding on the Beast, who hates her….see markmallettblog…
Thanks Colleen… I watched a couple of his videos on You Tube. Although I am not Catholic… I am not a legalist either. It was good to hear a fellow Christian brother sounding the end-times alarm.
Wiley Phipps, I do, too. I posted what I believe is a confirming dream, in response to James Bailey, and got the interpretation with scripture after I posted it. I posted the deeper interpretation above in a response to Peggy.
I know one thing, I will not be surrendering my massive weapon I own (Which is the holy word of God) nor will I surrender my Ephesians 6 military defensive equipment. I am going to keep the whole armor of God wherever I go.
Amen, Matthew!
Thank you James. Indeed the best place to be is where God tells us to be and the safest place to be is as close to Him as we can possibly get. I have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back, no turning back. The Lord directed us two yrs ago to leave a major city in USA & move to a less populated area, but we are to remain in America and “occupy ’till I come.” LORD bless
James Bailey,
Incredible interpretation of your dream. Seems like lately my sleep time is less and less, with varied dreams and things that I need to write down, research, and think about. I have found that most of the time recently this tab to your site is open, so I can skip back and forth between sites.
Early this morning I had a dream. My lap top was open on the table. I saw something pouring, buckets of oil, buckets, buckets of oil. One after the other, but this wasn’t an image on the screen, but it was coming out of the screen into the room and more and more. I thought, this is from the website!
Next, I am seeing something in the midst of all this anointing, it is a beleaguered flag, the American flag. I thought what is this? This is an anointing for the days ahead for the church in America. You who have been given so much, will have much required of you.
Next thing, I am in a huge office, something like in the WH. Someone like Hillary Clinton was behind the desk, asking me questions, like being interviewed. She was very harried, and frantic, with lots of interruptions going on. I had the feeling that I was in a job interview. I sat there and waited until I notice on one side of the room were about 10 arched doors. At a particular moment each door opened up from the hallway, and in each doorway stood a man. She gave the nod and starting one by one each man stepped in with an object in hand that I thought was a staple gun, or commercial tape machine, then I realized that there were vaccine guns. When each man had stepped in they then one by one took the weapon they had and place it in a particular rack on the door. These doors opened inward, so the slot for them would be on the outside of the room when the doors were closed. Odd? I thought, is she going to carry on the ministry of health? Death? Why are these weapons on the outside of the door placing them in the hallway. It had the feel of the 1984 book.
The final part of this was that the woman then tells me that she is very tired and wanted to take a nap. She and her husband go to my parents house and take a nap in my father’s office. I thought, what are they doing in my father’s office? She then shows me a miniature WH, not like a toy, but smaller scaled place that looked like the WH. She said she couldn’t run everything, but needed help, so apparently she was interviewing for the job. I thought , there is a government within the government, a hidden hand . I thought, we as a nation are in such big trouble, no matter what way it goes, it grows worse.
Aside from the beginning of the dream with the oil being poured out, I do not have a specific interpretation. It seems to me that it goes along somewhat with your article. OH! I just scrolled up to the picture! Flag and gun.
Karen Sue,
Thanks much for sharing the above. It sounds like confirmation!
This is what has been shown me concerning the dream, a confirming dream in many ways to the dream James Bailey posted in the article.
The buckets of oil coming through the computer, tab on this site, represents the anointing for the church to endure, overcome, and do mighty exploits.
Joel 2:28,29
28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
The 10 men in the 10 arched doors, putting their weapons in the door represent the 10 kings putting their control into the hands of the beast.
Revelation 17:12
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Sleeping in my father’s office, represents the audacity, and boldness by which they that serve the beast will seek to overthrow the Lamb and his followers, being where they out not be. (fornication, abomination)
Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
The woman in the WH represents the whore. (seeking power and control of the nations)
Revelation 17:16
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
The miniature WH replica, represents a kingdom that seems to be one thing, but it something else. Though it’s power is far reaching, in God’s eyes it is weak, naked, and blind.
Revelation 17:18
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
The only identifying symbol in my dream was the beleagered American flag. It’s popped into my mind right now that it is known as ‘old glory’. But we are looking for the glory of God, in Christ. Amen
california has proposed allowing law inforcement to confiscate legal weapons
https://www.trunews.com/california-gun-law-lets-police-seize-legally-owned-weapons/
A new California law scheduled to take effect Friday will allow the police to seize private, legally-owned weapons for up to three weeks without charges or allowing the citizen to contest the seizure.
AB1014 was passed last year in the wake of 2014’s Isla Vista shooting, where teenager Elliot Rodger went on a rampage near the campus of the University of California, Santa Barbara, killing six people along with himself.
Rodger’s parents had reported him to the police prior to the shooting, concerned about his mental health and rants he posted online. But after meeting with Rodger, police decided he wasn’t a criminal risk, and consequently didn’t search his apartment, where he was stockpiling weapons and ammunition.
The new law is intended to stop such a situation from re-occurring. Under the law, a judge has the power to grant a restraining order telling police to seize a person’s guns, based solely on accounts from family members or police that the person is poses an imminent danger to others. The restraining order can be granted without the affected person knowing it exists or being allowed time to contest it.
Under the law, the factors a judge can consider in granting the restraining order include not only threats of violence, but also prior felony arrests (even without a conviction), evidence of alcohol abuse, and even the simple act of recently purchasing a gun or ammunition.
Once granted, police can use the restraining order to confiscate all of a person’s guns and ammunition, and the person is also barred from buying or possessing guns and ammo for the duration of the order. A full court hearing must then be heard within three weeks. At that hearing, a judge will be able to extend the restraining order for an entire year.
“The law gives us a vehicle to cause the person to surrender their weapons, to have a time out, if you will,” Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Michael Moore told Southern California Public Radio. “It allows further examination of the person’s mental state.”
The law expands on California gun laws that are already some of the country’s toughest. Police already have the power to seize a person’s guns if a licensed therapist informs them that the person’s mental state makes them a danger to themselves or others.
Unsurprisingly, pro-gun organizations such as the National Rifle Association (NRA) have strongly opposed the law since it was first proposed. The NRA Institute for Legislative Action, the group’s lobbying arm, has already signaled its willingness to use the courts to battle the law. Noting that the law makes it a misdemeanor to file a frivolous request for one of the new restraining orders, the group has encouraged anybody who feels unjustly targeted to contact their attorneys.
I was just telling my husband about this. I guess eventually only the criminals will have arms because more than likely their guns are unregistered or stolen. Next thing we will see is a huge amount of once law abiding citizens buying guns in back alleys behind dumpsters.
To on a 3 day fast and ask God what is my role during this chaos, because God had already instructed many to start placed called refuge camps. These places will be supernaturally protected even from the sight of the enemy and to lead others to christ. The harvest and destruction are going to taje place at the same time. God has a role for everyobe of us during these times. So wait on God in fasting prayer to recieve your instructions
It is time for Nehemiah 1:3,4
James Thank you for all your hard work. I read Z3 news every day. I feel that Z3 has a very important mission in these times & times ahead. I feel that God is using this site to warn folks to get prepared for whats about to happen. I think that some of us have known even at a young age to be ready , I have always had a close relationship with my Lord & savior Jesus Christ. I love him & i praise him daily. My & my wife live in Texas & Have been getting ready for the past 8 years we are ready. I would say that most of the people here in Texas are not going to be disarmed. Most of us would rather die before becoming a slave & living in fear. There are several well organized groups All over America that are just waiting for this to happen. Life as we know it will never be the same if & when they try this. Thanks
Thanks James for all you do this site has been a blessing, and I have done the same thing that RLB has done because that is what God has called me and my husband to do. most of the time I am a long Wolf in what I say and do but I keep sharing anyway. Thanks again everyone who shares
Michelle
Awesome word and vision James, and I am in agreement with you. I only speak for myself and do not try and persuade anyone to think like me as , I am getting spiritually and physically prepared for what is coming. I will not give up a God given right even if it means I will possible die. God has allowed me the time to build a safe haven for myself and family and for anyone God sends my way, I have stored up a lot of provisions to feed the people God sends and also a means to protect them if needed , I’m doing as I feel the Lord leads me to do.
With that being said , praise God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and keep the dreams and visions coming, they help me tremendously.
Your brother in Christ, RLB
RLB, overall I agree with you, nonetheless, in regards to this article where the writer refers to Romans 13:1 and the ‘antichrist federal government’, I still try and correct Christians about “the whole” contextual application of Romans 13:1-5. I point out that Paul was actually ‘defining’ the parameters of what a Godly form of government was / is, and if a group of elected officials don’t operate within the confines, ‘definitions’ and limitations given by Paul, then it’s NOT GOVERNMENT, it is TRYANNY, and our founding fathers had a lot to say about that.
One excellent slogan was / is: Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God – Ben Franklin.
Several patriarchs of the OT took their stands against tyrannical governments of their day: the parents of Moses defied the order of Pharaoh by not drowning Moses in the Nile. The midwives defied Pharaoh, in order to help the Hebrew mothers and God blessed them with their own families. Rahab defied the king by helping the Hebrew spies hide.
In my opinion the best example would be David defying ‘king’ Saul. Please take note of my comparison between then and now: Saul, the anointed king, (obama?) grew to hate David (Christians and gun-owners) and wanted to kill him. Well, David, knowing the governing authority wanted him, should have turned himself in according to the DHS perverted version of Romans 13:1 – instead, David resisted and fled, taking his means of self-defense with him, including his mighty men.
What do all the examples have in common? They ALL risked their lives and fortunes to do the right thing – they took their stand against evil and actively responded.
These are but a few examples… I don’t need to preach to the choir… we may not all be called to bear arms, but we’re all called to stand and resist.
God’s timing is amazing. I just unloaded my third shipment of food and supplies from Sam’s Club and yesterday I bought a shotgun from a man who had advertised it over the local radio station. When I picked up the gun I noticed two Bibles on his table. He said he read a chapter every morning and understood the times we are living in. When ordering supplies consider buying items that can be used for bartering like candles, matches and toilet paper. Great post James. You’re a good man.
A while back Canada had a “long gun registry”( canceled by the Harper government). This became a “shopping list” for thieves as the registry was repeatedly breached. A pastor (I know) who hunts, refused to register his firearms. Why? Because he doesn’t trust the government.
Also RCMP officers broke into many home (and confiscated firearms) during the flooding of High River to “secure” the firearms.
Have you noticed that people in the Bible who even lied to protect GOD’s people were commended (eg.Rahab). Not obeying authorities. Richard Wurmbrand (Voice of the Martyrs) had lots to say on this topic.
On a personal note,it’s not a great feeling to come home to a house full of “officers” with automatic weapons going through your belongings (retaliatory lie to officials, cost us thousands to get our property back; but “to do righteousness and JUSTICE is better than sacrifice”,someone has to stand up for the truth, even if it is expensive, like Jesus who is our example).
So what would your response be if you came home and found Police Officers in your home looking for illegal firearms or drugs? If you had a gun are you saying you would shoot at the police officers who are only doing their duty in trying to protect it’s citizens?
This is a complicated situation we have to deal with, and the Bible provides excellent guidance on the matter.
According to Exodus 22:2, God recognizes our right to self-defense, which is far different from cold-blooded murder. Police officers do not normally break into homes to murder us or steal from us, so there would be no reason to shoot them.
James: I totally disagree with you that God recognizes your right to bear arms and take revenge. You are using selective OT scriptures to back up a personal interpretation.
Read the NT as well.
Where is Martin’s response on his above post?
I also included the words of Jesus, so it is not just Old Testament. I only mentioned self-defense. Revenge was totally your idea.
You have a right to defend your home. If the police are in your home illegally and unconstitutionally taking away your rights, who does that remind you of? Hint: British soldiers, sir.
Was it ok to shoot them? Or are you a Tory?
I wouldn’t recommend shooting police officers even in that case but I’d be boiling mad. I think you have to draw a line. Where is that line? Its BEFORE your guns are taken.
Thank you James and thank you Jerry for the great clarity on a very, very important topic; I can’t thank you enough!!
Jerry C, I have a question for you. If men armed or unarmed come to your your door and ask you to come with them, would you or should you use force / weapons to resist them? If you resist they can return with “help” or could simply send a drone to blow up your house. If you survive these actions life as a fugitive begins. This isn’t very far fetched.
Robert… I’m sorry for this being so long…. even as I write and edit this, I have my vest and two ‘friends’ in arm’s reach… (a NKJV and a 9mm) your questions are loaded (but excellent)… given my age and ‘experiences’, and assuming worst case ‘aftermath’ scenarios of your questions, the bottom line is this: I can only hope Jesus Christ is gracious enough to insure that we won’t even be home by the time it gets to your scenario, and that we’ll be long gone.
However, and otherwise, my hope is that I’m the ONLY one home when ‘they’ coming knocking… and, as one retired “special forces trained” LEO once said (when he was asked the same kind of questions) “… well, if I KNOW I’VE DONE NOTHING WRONG, and I look out the window and I see what looks like a ‘hit’ team headed to my front door, it’s not going to be a real good day for anyone….”.
If ‘they’ had a warrant for my arrest and I refused to answer the door, THEY WILL use force to enter my home. That’s protocol.
However, obama’s coming E.O.s will not require those pesky warrants, so, we’re back to square one with the conclusion that it’s simply “not going to be a good day for anyone…”
I am one of those 10% Christians who fully embrace the attitudes of Nehemiah and Davids’ mighty men. (Nehemiah ch.1-4, emphasis on 4:15-17 / with a “stone in one hand [rebuilding Jerusalem’s walls] and a weapon in the other…” and 2 Samuel 23:8-39 with emphasis on verses 8-12. Inspiring…) Bottom line: I will stand my ground… with variations on that theme.
Paul of the NT wrote: God will consider you worse than an unbeliever (lit. infidel) if you do not take care of your own, especially those of your immediate household.” 1Timothy 5:8. I include that to mean that self-defense is an ABSOLUTE.
I also refer to two situations with the disciples of Christ carrying ‘swords’… Peter was NEVER commanded to ‘get rid’ of his sword, only to “put it away” because of the greater mission and the sword would have interfered with God’s objective of Christ’s mission to earth… two (other) disciples brought swords to Christ and were told “that is enough” Luke 22:36-38. While the context here is argued that Christ was to be counted among the transgressors in fulfillment of OT Scripture , we have the position for consideration of the good Samaritan tending the needs of a man who was attacked and apparently unable to defend himself… it was common practice for everyone of that time to carry a fighting sword (approximately 18” in length) as a means of self-defense when traveling from one village or town to another…
In today’s situation, I give you the words of General George Patton: “no one ever won a war by dying for his country… you win a war by making the man die for his”. (clean version)
‘They’ already know I will resist any tyrannical demands to go with them and they won’t waste their time leaving and then returning with back-up. They WILL attempt to force me into the ‘neutralized threat’ category – a Canadian General made that crystal clear… but that’s a whole nother topic.
Concerning a drone… yep, that’s actually a genuine possibility and I have no applicable experiences to use in countering that consideration at this time….
My wife and I both fully understand that when this scenario becomes reality, “and (if) we survive” the initial wave, we’ve already come to terms with the facts that “normal” will no longer apply to our daily lives…
Realistically speaking, we will be joining those countless thousands upon thousands of other individuals in the past 100+ years alone who had their lives upended in a single moment and either became victim’s or fugitives of their own government after gun control was FULLY implemented.
I would recommend to anyone to watch the movie ‘Defiance’ starring Daniel Craig… accurately based on a true WWII story of the Nazi’s vs the Jews, and I also recommend you review Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and what he said about cowardice: http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/34738-and-how-we-burned-in-the-camps-later-thinking-what
Let’s face it, it’s going to get rough, as it’s already pure butchery for all our Christian family who are literally loosing their heads at the hands of the muslims.
I’ve had Christian brothers and sisters tell me they ‘intend’ to be martyrs for their faith… Not on my watch and if I’m in the neighborhood… and not if I have the opposing force in my crosshairs … I cringe at the thought of simply standing there and NOT fighting back… I reiterate 1Timothy 5:8 but I also look at Revelation 21:8 “But the cowardly…. …. Shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone….”. It’s my opinion that the word cowardly covers several categories of thought to include not only those who would not take a stand for their faith and (or) they recanted their faith in order to save their physical lives… but also those who would not take up the sword to defend their lives and the lives of those around them against the hordes from hell. Let’s face it, fighting takes courage… anyone can turn and run, but, there’s a big big difference between a momentary ‘retreat’ and a “run for your lives…”, but again, that’s a whole nother topic…
I wish I could have made this more brief… hope this helps you understand my position…
Spoken well in love, Jerry.
James and Jerry, excellent summation, as we all need to be aware of how the government will attempt to use scripture (one verse taken out of context) to deceive Christians – just as satan tried it on Jesus. I love how the Holy Spirit is revealing all these plans of the enemy in advance, so we are not blind sided. Thank you for speaking out as the Spirit leads!
Anyone guess what Hitlers favorite text was? That’s right! You got it!
This article argues from the Bible for the just use of force in defending oneself. http://www.biblicalselfdefense.com/
Amen Jerry! Excellent! Thank you and God bless you, brother.
James,I read one of Chuck Johnel Youngbrandt’s visions of Gods judgement on America. He talks in great detail about the American Christians, they were in a sense relieved when the Russians and Chinese invasions had destroyed the US government, then they could breathe a sigh of relief being delivered for a short time from the Antichrist government.When I first read this in 2000, I could hardly understand it but now it makes a whole lot more sense.
Thanks and God bless you