In a dream two nights ago, I was in an outdoor space, talking with a man. I do not know if he was human or a Messenger of God. In the dream he said, “God is doing something with His Chosen and Elect.”
I looked at him to consider his statement and the words, “the Chosen are God’s Elect.” came forth from our mouths.
Then, the words, “The Chosen and Elect are foreordained by God.”
It seemed a knowledge was being placed within me. As I stood there in the dream, I spoke these words, “The rest are prayed in”.
Then I woke up.
Interpretation:
As I prayed over this, I believe foreordained would mean they were chosen of God as His Elect prior to birth.
Biblical history of this would be like Samuel, Sampson, John the Baptist, of course Jesus and even women like Mary, Deborah and others. This would include the Prophets and Seers in scripture and beyond to our present day and into the future.
The other part of “foreordained” would mean they may not necessarily have recognition by their present day religious authorities, to be “ordained” into God’s mission field, because God Himself has already ordained them. God is still in the business of choosing people before they are even born to do His work and His will.
This choosing before birth, as in Elizabeth’s and Sarah’s case, prior to conception has staggering implications. If we comprehend we have a limitless God, His ability to create and choose is well within His abilities. God has the ultimate foreknowledge.
As I considered this dream, I realized our Father is very strategic in placing His Chosen Elect into each generation. Then I remembered speaking with both a Hasidic Rabbi and a Reformed Rabbi while attending University studies. Both had this to say:
There are not less than 36 tzaddikim/righteous persons in the world in each generation who receive the Shekhinah/the Divine Presence of G-d. — Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 97b, Sukkot 45b
The notion of not less than thirty-six righteous ones appears in the Talmud, the oral tradition of Judaism. They come at times of great peril, called out of their anonymity and humility by the necessity to save the world because they can and because we need them.
Hasidic, Orthodox and Reformed Judaism, according to the Talmud, believe there are not less than 36 of these Righteous Ones in every 30-year generation. I believe, that if these are the “Chosen Elect”, the number will be infinite in the coming days.
I believe they do and will lead and “pray in” the lost, the unsaved who are willing, as they pray for the salvation of the world. Salvation is the only way to save in this world.
I believe they have sacrificed their lives and their own agenda to serve God. That said, these are not flawless, they battle with their own sin and inadequacies as do we all. The difference between the “Chosen Elect” and the rest of us is a complete and total abandonment to the will of God.
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Please understand I am saying this out of love for my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I just learned about the true nature of the Talmud a year ago, and after reading some verses I became angry, sad and sick to my stomach.
The Talmud also calls all Goyim (non-Jews) as cattle, beasts of the field, only made to look like man to serve the Jew. The Talmud also says it is nothing to have sex with children, or to take a young girl’s virginity as her hymen will grow back, it is like sticking your finger in her eye. It says Jesus was born of a whore and that He is boiling in a pot of feces for being a false prophet. It also says it’s ok to sacrifice to Satan from time-to-time so that he will leave Israel alone.
So if you’re going to quote from the Talmud to back up your dream, please research the book and understand it is a Satanic book written when the Israelites were in Babylon, when they should have been repenting of their evil, but instead decided to follow Satan so they could gain freedom. It is there the Talmud was created, as well as Babylonian magic money, today known as fiat currency. I would honestly not use the Talmud to back up anything that you’ve gained from Christ. The Talmud is of Satan. And Christ and Satan have nothing in common. He is a liar, Christ is the truth.
Orthodox Rabbis have admitted they do not follow the Torah but the Talmud. That wicked book is their holy book. Tex Marrs spoke a lot about this and is a good introduction into Judaism. They also admit the serpent is their god because he gave them wisdom and knowledge.
Christians really need to wake up and understand the world we live in. Most of what we’ve been taught in school is a lie, designed to make us not believe in a creator. God has been deprogramming my mind and uncovering all the lies. The level of deception currently over the whole world including over Christians is MASSIVE. When I found out, I cried heavily. I guess I just felt so sad and angry that we’ve been lied to about the world around us, to hide the fact that this place was designed by an intelligent being.
Goodspeed on your journey out of the lies. It’s not easy, sometimes emotional.
I don’t really understand the concept of people having been chosen other than that all real Christians are chosen. Could you explain this a bit further sister?
I agree with this 100%
I was unsure as to which contribution to post this under but just wanted to share it. http://elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=20731 I am not familiar with the author but was taken by his assertion that we are in the season of the color red. He mainly covers how God is speaking in sports through the color red but also how the Blood of Jesus is to prevail over all other blood sacrifices. He never got to Reddcoin but I sure thought of it.
The LORD has told me also that certain people are chosen / appointed / called before birth to certain tasks and GOD always shows HIMSELF to these people in such a way to make sure they know HIM . I did not become a Christian till I was 28 , I should still be in jail for some of the things I did . Yet GOD saved my life supernaturally when I was 8 & three times in the Army before I became a Christian . I have found all those chosen / appointed / called have had a rough life in some way , which is proof of your calling which Satan knows about and why he tries so hard to stop us . Many on Z3 are in this group , the rest are prayed into the kingdom I believe . Thank you Sister Kasey & Blessings .
John: I believe that this is very true, the adversary, the enemy of our soul spends 24/7 in relentless pursuit of the chosen/elect/appointed. That said, scripture tells us that these difficulties and trials will refine our character, making and molding us into something that God can and will use. Strengthening us so that we do not fold under pressure. Even as with Job, the Lord allows us to be schooled in this way. Blessings, KSB
Hi Kasey,
Thanks for your great input to Z3. You are a blessing! Just curious about when you went to Asbury since my brother and sister in law went there as well. Way back in the early to mid 80’s I think. Would be cool if you knew them as I would love to bring them into the deeper things of the Z3 world and you might be a catalyst! I haven’t been able to bring my family into what’s really going on but that time is coming. Probably need some of the events to happen first to open their hearts and minds some and actually see some prophetic words being fulfilled in plain view.
Bill F. I was there 2006-2007 at the Wilmore Campus. A great experience. Keep praying for your brother and sister -in-law. From what I see, fear is usually what holds people back. They fear what they do not understand or at times what they may have been taught that seems different to present day events.
Kasey, I believe that this is so true, Those chosen/elect will know who they are. There is a huge, intense lifelong price to pay, that begins with childhood throughout one’s life.
Sue C. The sacrifice is for life, there is no turning away.
Hi Sue… John Berry and Kacey are both right! I have gone through alot in my life which I have told John about some of it! From about the time I was born, Satan has tried to physically get to me and has tried kill me several times! Yahuwah has protected me every time! For years I thought I had the worst luck and nothing could go right… My life has NOT been easy! I have had easy or right for a short period of time, but it has not lasted as long as I would wish it would! But now I understand why. What my work will be here soon… Yah has lead me to that understanding! Lately… I have been having alot of deja vu. Very different then in the past! It is stronger now and last alot longer. I believe I was shown my life before I was born! Everything I would go through! I believe, when the time He chooses, I will know everything He wants me to know. Like a seer! My eyes will be completely opened to see the unseen! I feel I am ready, but that is not my decision and I know I have to wait! Keep a low profile as much as possible! There is so many who limit Yahuwah! Which is the wrong thing to do! He is the almighty and very capable of doing way beyond our imaginations can think of! He is one awesome guy and I am so grateful for everything He has done for me! I will sever Him and Yeshua forever, because that is how much I love them! Many blessings to you and everyone! Shalom
Hello Jeannie. Yes, Jesus is awesome. You are in our prayers. He has a wonderful plan for you. And yes the persecution does begin from the time you are born throughout the rest of your life. The closer you become to Jesus, the more intense the persecution will become. Through all of it a deep work is being done. Always remember Jesus has a hedge of protection around you and that angels encamp round about you. I can absolutely attest to that. I am 62 years old and throughout my life satan has tried to abort the plan of God for my life many, many times, from the time I was born. I have had a jealous ex-boss put out a contract on me, an ex-husband pull a gun on me, someone physically had hold of me to kidnap me, someone tried to come through my bedroom window who had followed me home from the gym, and on and on. A couple of years ago a car going approx. 70 mph tried to hit me head on on purpose and as I miraculously missed being hit, he slammed into the person behind me. I had two of the dearest people in my life with me, my mother and my grandson. About 3 mos ago while in the post office line a demon possessed lady that I had never seen before started screaming and tried to attack me out of the blue, but was held by back by someone. I have always been a normal, respectable person who has never lived in a bad part of town. Well maybe I would not say normal lol. I grew up in the 70’s with little supervision. I do have street smarts. I believe that too was part of the plan of God for my life. I live near Ft. Worth, TX. Greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world. If you have not heard of it, there is a book called “My All for Him” by Basilia Schlink that has helped to nuture my relationship with Jesus and my love for Him. We can become so distracted. I try not to become bitter, forgive others, be obedient and totally put my trust in the Lord. He has never not made a way. There have been times that I was so sick or worn out that all I could do was say the name “Jesus” or “Jesus help me.” Like Kasey, I have also been bedridden in my life, for a few months. He knows how much we can endure. It is absolutely all worth it. I live a productive life and Jesus continually pours out blessings. God bless you!
Kasey, I have no doubt that if the chosen/elect were given the choice would choose to pay the price all over again. God’s grace is sufficient and the relationship, protection, provision, healing, rewards and benefits are more than worth it. Where there is no way, God always, amazingly, each and every time, makes a way. Through all of it you learn to die to self. It is truly a life adventure. It is not about the chosen/elect, but about God’s purpose and plan for others.
John, I believe that this is so true, Those chosen/elect will know who they are. There is a huge, intense lifelong price to pay, that begins with childhood throughout one’s life.
The Talmud, the oral tradition of Judaism, is a big Red Flag.
The Talmud was present in Oral form during Yeshua’s lifetime, it was written later as a commentary on the Torah; which is the Old Covenant. It is important to remember that Yeshua Himself stated: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”
These Hebraic writings and oral traditions were what Yeshua was raised upon, in fact we need them in order to fully understand His references to them within the New Covenant.
The religious leaders of Yeshua’s day had lost the “heart” of Torah and many other Hebraic writings. It was their lack of living out the Torah that Yeshua had issue with, not the word itself. They were hypocritical, speaking the Law and oral traditions but not living it. This is an age old problem, still present today. KSB
And to add here is a word from Lonnie Mackley
“God Is Going To Start Renewing Your Youth!”
Aug. 25th, 2018
PS 103:5 who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
While in prayer the Lord showed me something very interesting that He wanted me to share with you right now. I saw a person that was looking into the mirror, and as they did they just thought to themselves; “I am too old, sick, tired, and broken down to do anything for God now”. Then I saw in the vision two cars; one was an old broken down jalopy, and the other was a finely tuned sports car.
I felt what the Lord wanted to say to you is that He understands that although you may feel very old, sick, broken down, and unusable right now; that He is going to renew and rejuvenate you where literally every cell in your body will start to revert back to an earlier age. And this will be like an old broken down jalopy being miraculously transformed into a powerful and highly efficient sports car!
JOB 33:25 then his flesh is renewed like a child’s; it is restored as in the days of his youth.
And as this happens, instead of dreading to go look into the mirror in the morning, you will rush to look in the mirror to see what new change has occurred overnight. This will literally affect every part of your body; like an age reversal. People will keep asking you what you are doing that makes you look younger and this will open up an opportunity to witness and pray for God to touch them as well.
So even though you may feel like that old broken down jalopy right now, the Lord is going to begin to change your body day by day and restore it in every way so that you can truly be whole and ready for this harvest and the demanding times ahead. Your strength and vitality will be restored in every way needed! So take new hope today dear one, because God is going to start renewing your youth!
ISA 40:31 but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
I can use those scriptures
I was trying to look up scriptures to renew the cartilage in my knees about an hour ago.lol our Lord is pretty awesome
Xavier and Kathleen-
I can use those scriptures as well. My doctor has recommended a knee replacement on my left knee due to osteoarthritis, with my right knee not far behind. I am adamantly opposed to knee replacement surgery, as I have complete trust that the Lord is going to completely heal and restore the cartilage in both of my knees. I have a doctor appointment tomorrow to discuss future direction. What a timely post! Yes indeed, our Lord is pretty awesome!!!
Start taking Horsetail tea or capsules every day too!! The silica is needed for that cartilage to grow and heal properly 🙂
God said He made all the herbs for our healing.
I have been harvesting wild medicinal plants for 20 yrs now
Horsetail is one of my favourites
Thank you, Yawchai. Will have to try to that.
Xavier – Thank you , this comes as such a timely confirmation. The Lord has been speaking to me for some time now, saying very similar to what you have said here. He has told me the parts of my body that will not require operating on because He is going to restore them. I know it is hard for loved ones to understand why I have not gone and put my name on the wait list for an operation. I am very aware of causing them grief. Nevertheless the Lord has been speaking about the transformation that is coming for the bride, but that I will have restoration before that. It is wonderful to hear others sharing similar.
This is a very good word added on . The hebrew year 5779 is right upon us now and the nine is for creative miracles. I also have health battles since birth and have been lead by the Lord to study in the natural, relational and spiritual. I have had to try things slowly in the natural because of very poor digestion and candida spread thoughout my systems, but last year I stumbled on the fountain of youth. I was cutting blackberry and got a sticker that hurt in my foot and had just read on earth clinic about someone soaking their foot in borax so I tried a tiny pinch and I swear the next day my friend thought the holy spirit dropped ten years off of me…it was crazy. Even this year people who haven’t seen me in awhile tell me I am getting younger , healthier , and look radiant. I did have to learn a lot because it releases calcium out of soft tissue. Kidney stones, I never had before, seemed to come out of nowhere and I had to use some chanca piedra to break them up. For people who need some info on this topic and history of the use of borax as one of our important minerals for joints an teeth and hormones. Here is a link
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
God created the earth with goodness and man has tried to trick us and get our health and money but there are still some sights with education and information to lead us higher . Thanks Z3News for being one of them. Blessings , JOY
Xavier: I can confirm what you have shared. For over 12 years I was in the wilderness of acute pain and suffering. It was a time of refining my character, humbling me and even crushing me until I was completely empty of myself….that is the only way He could use me. In June the reversal began that you speak of. I was bedridden for two years prior and would beg God to let me die. At this point about 95% of the pain is gone, I am stronger physically and spiritually and become more so with each passing day. My strength is nearing that of one half my age at this point and our Father leaves me in awe of His gracious care and love.
Thanks for your dream Sister. What came to mind as I read your dream before reading your interpretation was Mat 22:14. Many are called, but few are chosen. Praise God we who are saved by the grace of God have been “chosen.” The Lord in his foreknowledge knew who would accept grace before time began. Praise God!!
You’re interpretation however I do not completely agree with. In particular after the sentence:
things seem to get unreliable. I would not at all consider the Talmud to be scripture nor would I ever quote it to explain anything. We need to remember the rabbinic religious system is what Christ was against(Luke 14:5, Mat 12:11, John 2:12-22) and what played a huge role in the religious leaders desire to crucify Christ and to incite the public to agree with them(Mat 23, Mark 12:1-12, Mat 21-33-46).
Blessings,
jmore: The Talmud was present in Oral form during Yeshua’s lifetime, it was written later as a commentary on the Torah; which is the Old Covenant. It is important to remember that Yeshua Himself stated: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”
These Hebraic writings and oral traditions were what Yeshua was raised upon, in fact we need them in order to fully understand His references to them within the New Covenant.
The religious leaders of Yeshua’s day had lost the “heart” of Torah and many other Hebraic writings. It was their lack of living out the Torah that Yeshua had issue with, not the word itself. They were hypocritical, speaking the Law and oral traditions but not living it. This is an age old problem, still present today. KSB
KSB, I understand you opinion but I respectfully disagree. Jesus is referring to the inspired Word of God given to Moses and the Prophets. We have to make a distinction between inspired and man made writings otherwise we have to open the door to a whole slew of man made teachings and writings, many of which contradict inspired scripture.
The idea of only 36 righteous ones gives way to an idea of a privileged few among the elite IMO. Who knows who these “righteous” are? I’m sure the elite do and I’m sure they sit in the highest positions in the chambers and are “highly” respected throughout the religious system. Sounds a lot like Catholicism as well. Sorry but this pegs my discernment meter and unless there is a confirming witness of scripture in the inspired Word of God I’ll have to pass.
Blessings,
Jmore, what about the TWO witnesses who will prophecy in Jerusalem standing against AC? Talk about a privileged class! (I’ve known people who believed they were one of the two . . ..) God continues to reveal new specifics, which is why we gather at z3.
just watched this about the two witnesses -very thought provoking and only used scripture as evidence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE81HrKxHoo
Thanks Heather for sharing the info on the 2 witnesses ! Great info!
Bless you !
Hi Heather, this teaching was very encouraging! A year or 2 ago I did a study on the 2 witnesses and came to the same understanding regarding the 2 olive trees. I never told anyone because I had never heard it taught. He’s had me in a place of “unlearning” many things that I had been taught in the churches…and I believe that is because I asked him to take from me anything that was not of him. He’s a good good Father!! Thank you dear sister for sharing. You are braver than I. 🙂
well its just simply amazing !! Hallelujah ! I was equally encouraged as well -it also matches alot of things are said here on z3 about normal people doing extraordinary things for the Glory of Our Messiah -and bringing people into His Kingdom- so glad you were blessed by it-He is beyond Kind
Savage, I believe the two witnesses have not yet died a physical death. Scripture dictates that …it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment Heb 9:27 therefore I believe these two witnesses have left the earth without dying. The two names that come to mind are Enoch and Elijah.
I agree that God continues to reveal specifics but we must use discernment. Paul through Holy Spirit writes to Timothy and says: Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Any Word that is not from Holy Spirit is suspect. Just as God seeks to lead us through Holy Spirit and His Word, the enemy seeks to lead us by seducing spirits into deception.
I hear people talking of flat earth and all manner of nonsense in these end times. They are being led down the wrong path because they are not holding to the truth of God’s Word. God has told us through His word to cast down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God (See 2 Cor 10:5) What is the knowledge of God? HIS WORD! If any word doesn’t without a doubt come from the Mouth of God then is NOT to be exalted above the knowledge that He has provided us through His Word. It is to be cast(thrown) down.
A great “falling away” is coming(2 Thess 2:3). A great falling away from the faith. How does anyone think this great falling away happens? Because many are not firmly planted in God’s Word they will be deceived into believing something that is not of God.
Lord, I pray for all here at z3 to exercise discernment that you give us through your Word so that we can hold fast to what is true and disregard what is suspect. So be it!
This also gets my antennae up a bit. I have no problem with the Talmud within the context of commentary, such as Matthew Henry. It can bring context and greater understanding of the Judaism of time, pre- Rabbincal Judaism. However, it is my understanding that Shekinah is not a biblical term, it is taken from the Kabalah. Shekinah is a feminine word, and God, scripturally-speaking, uses male pronouns to define Himself. In fact, the Hebrew uses kabowd (strong’s 3519) which is a masculine word. We have to be VERY careful where Judaism has allowed the mystery religions to infiltrate. I mean, didn’t God destroy Israel and Judah for their idolatry?
There may be 144,000 righteous ones here like there were 7,000 in the time of Elijah.
I’ve been seeing the number 144 everywhere and all the time. I believe they are here; some may know, other may not know they are part of the 144,000 just yet…what an honor to live in the fulfillment of scripture.
Kasey and James, thank you so much for posting this. This speaks to me. Kasey you are a blessing.
Sue: That is my hope, to be a blessing. KSB
Most serious Christians would probably agree that God knew who would be saved before He began creation, but why would He create those He knew were destined to Hell? No question there are many shallow religious “Christians”. One sign a person is really saved is how they enjoy talking about Jesus. Robert Cook had a radio talk show about twenty five years ago and when he sat down with a group of Christian leaders he would shock them by starting the conversation with, So, what has God spoken about to you today?
GA, It’s important to remember that Jesus died for every sin, past, present, and future. The free gift of grace is intended for all through faith. Some however choose not to give glory to the One who gave them everything and accept His free gift of grace. God’s foreknowledge about the future doesn’t change the fact that everything our Lord created is “good.”
If we understand that what God created is good, yet some of His original good corrupted themselves by sin, then the real question might be: Why does God create at all?
In my humble opinion God creates because if He didn’t evil would win. If sin and evil had the power to prevent God from creating then it would have victory over the decision to create free willed life. So it would appear that Father chooses to create and make an example of evil for all future free willed creatures rather than not create and allow evil to have a deciding influence on the decision to create.
Please know that I don’t write this because I foolishly claim to have all the answers. More so I write this because I desire to know what anyone else’s thoughts might be on this subject that has spent so much time on my heart. Please know though, that I always come from the premise that God is Holy, Righteous, and Innocent. Otherwise how could He judge?
Blessings,
jmore, I just wanted to add that Christ died even for our future sins AS LONG AS we repent. A righteous person can fall from grace if that person turns away by choice.
Marcio, I’m in agreement. I just summed up repentance with faith so thanks for elaborating. Those who truly believe will repent. When we stop repenting we have become deceived into justifying our own wrongful actions and are on a slippery road of unbelief(backsliding). I also agree that man has free will, not only to reject grace but to turn from grace. Ezekiel 18 sums up this topic and the last verse in the chapter means a lot to me. God says: “For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dies, says the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live you.”
Blessings,
Marcio and jmore, thank you for your wise thoughts on a subject the Holy Spirit apparently slipped into my heart. With your thoughts in mind, God still knew who was going to sin and allowed them to be born and spend eternity in Hell. Perhaps God blocked His own ability to see the future of all the souls He created good and with the freedom to choose, including Satan himself. Otherwise, His whole Divine Plan could not have worked or started and He would never have had a family of souls with free wills??? At the end of the millennium there will be a huge number again who will have rejected His gracious offer of sonship, “the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.”
GA, While I would like to continue our conversation and I think there may be truths that can be infered from scripture I feel we would most definitely be entering the realm of speculation and I would not want to do so on a public forum where some may be offended and others may misinterpret, etc, etc. Contact me anytime at jmore7@protonmail.com
One thing I can say for sure. God is good. He is light. There is no darkness in Him at all and He cannot lie. He uses His foreknowledge to help and warn people from doing wrong while giving them hope for the future. He has created in a way as to not be held liable for any free willed creatures wrongful actions just as a good loving Parent is not responsible for a child that goes their own way and corrupts themselves. He loves His creation more than anyone can possible fathom and His absolute goodness towards humanity was revealed on the cross where He was willing, at any cost to free humanity from sin. While we may not understand everything fully we can hold fast to the truth of His goodness and rest in the assurance of His Word.
Blessings,
jmore, I couldn’t agree more. God is good and their is no darkness in Him. GB
GA: I was reading back on the comments. One reason God allows the birth of someone who will not choose Him is because of a future lineage. An example: My mother was not saved and rebelled against God, yet; had she not been born, I would not be here to follow the calling God has placed on my life. Sometimes generations pass before the fruit GOD knew about is seen. Blessings, KSB