here<\/a><\/strong>. Below are important exchanges from Dr. Collins\u2019s transcribed interview:<\/p>\nThe hypothesis that the COVID-19 pandemic was the result of a lab leak or lab related accident is not a conspiracy theory<\/strong>. Despite previously disagreeing with the lab leak theory \u2014 both in public and in private \u2014 Dr. Collins testified that the lab leak hypothesis is indeed not a conspiracy theory.<\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cAll it\u2019s calling for is a \u201cyes\u201d or \u201cno.\u201d Is the possibility of a lab leak a conspiracy theory?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cYou have to define what you mean by a lab leak.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cPutting aside de novo, the possibility of a laboratory or research-related accident, a researcher doing something in a lab, getting infected with a virus, and then sparking the pandemic. Is that scenario a conspiracy theory\u201d?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: <\/strong>\u201cNot at this point.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\u2026<\/p>\n
Majority Counsel: \u201cWe have talked about this an awful lot, I think I know the answer to the question, but I want to ask it. Is the origin of COVID-19 still unsettled science?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cYes.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nThe \u201c6 feet apart\u201d social distancing guidance that federal public health officials endorsed was likely not based on any science or data.<\/strong> Dr. Collins agreed with Dr. Fauci that he has not seen any evidence to support the \u201c6 feet apart\u201d directive \u2014 which was promoted by public health officials and caused widespread economic and social damage to Americans.<\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cMoving on to social distancing and the various regulations surrounding that. On March 22, 2020, the CDC issued guidance describing social distancing to include remaining out congregant settings, avoiding mass gatherings, and maintaining a distance of approximately six feet from others when possible. We asked Dr. Fauci where the six feet came from and he said it kind of just appeared, is the quote. Do you recall science or evidence that supported the six-feet distance?\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: <\/strong>\u201cI do not.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cIs that I do not recall or I do not see any evidence supporting six feet?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cI did not see evidence, but I\u2019m not sure I would have been shown evidence at that point.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cSince then, it has been an awfully large topic. Have you seen any evidence since then supporting six feet?\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: <\/strong>\u201cNo.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nNIH often lacks the necessary subject matter expertise to ensure U.S. taxpayer funds are spent safely.<\/strong> Concerningly, Dr. Collins was unaware of any NIH policy that ensures foreign laboratories comply with U.S. standards and are not at odds with U.S. national interests.<\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cThank you. We\u2019ve asked a number of people regarding the vetting or certifying process of foreign labs that receive U.S. dollars. Do you know what that process is?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cI do not.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cTo your knowledge, does NIH certify foreign labs that receive U.S. dollars?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cI don\u2019t know that.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\u2026<\/p>\n
Majority Counsel: \u201cAgain, what we\u2019re trying to figure out is if, like, you get a proposal that has a foreign lab on it, if the NIH would do all the work themselves, or if they would call the State Department, or if they would call some other department to try to determine if that foreign lab is reputable.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cI don\u2019t know.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nThe Trump Administration led the charge to rightfully terminate and later suspend EcoHealth Alliance, Inc.\u2019s grant in April 2020.<\/strong> Dr. Collins testified that he supported every enforcement action suggested by the Trump Administration and executed by the NIH.<\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cMoving into 2020. Before we start with individual letters, we asked Dr. Lauer and he testified that he would not sign or send a letter that he disagreed with. Do you have any reason to doubt that assertion?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cNo.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cDo you agree with every enforcement action the NIH took against EcoHealth?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cYes.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins claims that Dr. Fauci invited him to participate in the infamous February 1, 2020 phone call that allegedly \u201cprompted\u201d the public narrative that COVID-19 originated from nature and that vilified the lab leak hypothesis.<\/strong><\/p>\nThis testimony directly contradicts earlier statements made by Dr. Fauci.<\/strong><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: <\/strong>\u201cHow were you made aware of this call?\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nDr. Collins: <\/strong>\u201cI was, I think \u2013 again, it\u2019s four years ago \u2013 initially informed by Dr. Fauci that the call was happening. And then, I think I got this email forwarded about what the agenda was going to be from Dr. Farrar, who was clearly the person organizing the call.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\nMajority Counsel: \u201cDid Dr. Fauci ask you to join the call?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\nDr. Collins: \u201cYes.\u201d<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n
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There we have it. Ex-director NIH Francis Collins had NO data and has not seen any data to support the social distancing edicts from HHS.<\/p>\n
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The transcript itself documents that Director Collins had evidence that masking would harm children.<\/p>\n
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Q: In the realm of masking, obviously masks became this big to-do during the pandemic. One of the specific aspects that we are interested in is the science and data that supported it for children. So the WHO recommended against masking children less than five because masks are, I’m quoting, not in the overall interest of the child, and against children 6 to 11 from wearing masks because of again, quoting, the potential impact of wearing a mask on learning and psychological development. The United States recommended masking kids as young as two, so directly contradicted the WHO’s recommendation on that. <\/strong><\/p>\nDo you recall what science or data backed up that recommendation?<\/strong><\/p>\nCollins: I have no knowledge of that. <\/strong><\/p>\nQ Okay. There are now studies coming out regarding learning loss from both school closures and childhood mask wearing — for masks specifically, kids not being able to see adults form words and things like that and it’s causing speech issues. Are you aware of those issues? <\/strong><\/p>\nCollins: In a general way, yes. <\/strong><\/p>\nQ: Do you agree that there’s learning loss and other unintended consequences of mask wearing? <\/strong><\/p>\nCollins: I have to depend on the experts who assess those things who have evidence, they say, that that’s the case.<\/strong><\/p>\n