I received a word on September 24, “Watch the Vatican. They will side with the man of sin. Their leader will be the false prophet.”
So is it possible that if the current pope is forced to step down and a new one is appointed in his place, then at a certain point in time, the new pope and some remnant faithful Catholics are driven underground while the evicted pope returns as the head of the Vatican?
Further, when I read about the city of seven hills, I am instantly drawn to Revelation 17:9, 18. Both verses have something to say about the woman with the cryptic name: “Babylon the Great.”
9 Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, (Revelation 17:9)
18 The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:18)
Could the destruction of the woman at the hands of the first beast as described in Revelation 17 be God’s judgment on those who choose to remain at the Vatican instead of going underground as part of the persecuted church?
Perhaps there are faithful Christians at the Vatican and it is them that the current pope is at odds with? So perhaps such a rift in the Vatican is likely?
What about America being Babylon? Well, the scripture does say that Babylon has daughters. And a part of the name of the woman in Revelation 17 is “The Mother of Prostitutes.” So, to me, it seems that if the mother is Babylon, then the daughters are also Babylon.
We all know only in part right now. While it is very much possible to use this partial knowledge to come up with a theory as to how things may play out, the danger lies in losing sight of the fact that this is just theory.
May I remind Mr. Thomas that Rome is not the only city sitting on seven hills. Other cities include Mecca and Jerusalem. Who is to say that a false church might not be centered in those places? Mecca is the spiritual home of Islam and Jerusalem has not always been faithful to the Lord. Let’s keep an eye out in all directions to see where the false church will come from .
Sujit Thomas says
I acknowledge that I do not know everything. Neither do I claim that the word I received on Sept 24 is a complete picture of how things will unfold.
But I know this: on Sept 24 I was praying over a word that Joanie Stahl had shared about the sign of the final end, and it was during that time that I received the word I’ve shared. That is what I received in my spirit.
I also know that there are many positions on the identity of the Babylon of Revelation 17, but the facts that this Babylon is called the mother of prostitutes in the scripture and that the scripture elsewhere seems to call any nation engaged in spiritual adultery a daughter of Babylon are like little nuggets that have been impressed upon my spirit.
Beyond what I’ve received in my spirit, I do not know anything.
Peter Harbison says
Not sure if this is relevant but at the end of October the Vatican is hosting an event with COMECE (the Commission of Bishops Conferences in the EU) entitled (re)thinking Europe, with Pope Francis in attendance. It will be interesting to see what they conclude.
In the Catholic Church it is impossible for a Pope to be forced out of office. if he were pushed out of office against his will, his removal would not be valid, and he would still officially be Pope. That’s why Pope Benedict emphasized in his resignation letter that he was resigning with full freedom.
British Tom says
When the real persecution is established you wont be catholic. There will be no division amongst the persecuted. We will all be Christians focused on Christ. Not Mary not Peter not rituals. The archbishop of Canterbury like the pope is a wet lettuce and false pastor. We will all be tuned into Jesus via the Holy Spirit with all the silly denominations gone. Wewill finally have abandoned tge doctrines and religions of men that have been added. Jesus alone will be the main reason they come for us.
The pop will be given authority to make war on the saints to put the mark or the number of the name of the world leader the head of the beast government on every one on earth the ones that will not bow down to the authority of the world government and the world church will be hunted down many will be headed . he is the one riding on the white horse going forth to conquer in the name of world peace the false prophet
Cobus Brits says
Sujit, Torben Sondergaard who made the film ‘The Last Reformation’ which is based on how the Acts church operated has some very good instructional videos. 24 odd of them.
Anyways, he describes in one of them how the Protestant churches developed from the Catholics and were percecuted by the latter. But later on how these Protestant churches themselves became corrupted – in essence, daughters of the Prostitute.
Rick Joyner in one of his prophetic books, think it was ‘The Final Quest’ described how all the different denominations were seen on an island buffeted by huge storms and waves. Because of every denominations own perculiar doctrine, he saw them as scewed buildings with here and there a light in it (true believers) and how the continual pounding of the waves flattened all these buildings. These lights became then one building by themselves as we are the living stones in Gods temple but how the waves unrelenting power would sweep away even a lot of these living stones.
Quite a sobering picture. But the point is that it is only those that are totally sold out to Jesus that will survive these storms. Everything else can be considered ‘Daughters of the Prostitute’ and its influence on believers.
Sujit Thomas says
I am familiar with Torben, Corbus, though I haven’t watched all of his videos. His movie The Last Reformation was a great blessing to me. I’d encourage everyone to watch it.
If you look at the Vatican from a 45 degree angle you will see that it is a CROWNED SERPENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Matt Smith says
I believe the Vatican will use this new waive of technology being released to the public, to show many false signs and wonders, thus starting a revival for Satan’s kingdom/Antichrist.
Phil Titus says
I am Christian who believes in Christ but is also a practicing Catholic. Our family is looking for other Catholics who know it is time to start looking for an underground church. Is there any Catholic underground churches in the northeast pa nj area….time is running out we are away and begging Christ for mercy on the church who are sleeping. Even people who are of the world know that something is up their eyes are open I wonder why is the church’s eyes not open?
God\'s Dirt Kid says
Seek and ye shall find, Phil. It is already being done in our area among devout Catholics I am aware. YOU may be called to begin it in your locale?
Your eyes and ears are open Phil and we agree with what they see and hear. This website is for all intents and purposes “anti- Catholic” and you won’t find much compassion here, but will find quite a lot of judgment. We for our own reasons, sought out a Mystical Parish that prides us with Spiritual Communion, which in the absence of the Eucharist, is entirely acceptable. So far, this is as close to an “underground Church” as I have seen. We will not submit to the False Prophet, Francis
The Pope is a Jesuit which is the religious arm of the Masonic order, there is the militancy arm and the political/business arm as well.
The headquarters for the political arm is in London and holds many titles of the royal courts including the second highest commoners degree of the 32nd which is called the keeper of the Royal secrets which should point to where to look for for the AC. The Royl Grter is small triangle above the commoners pyramid and the head of that is the ruling Monarch. Another Branch of the political side is called the Royal Arch freemasonry.
This is what the false prophet does and that is to encourage everybody to take the mark of the beast to but and sell. The pope is not doing this so even though he is part of the religious wing of masonry he is not the false prophet.
The false prophet’s software is running most domestic computers today and business/banking machines, he has actively encouraging 3rd world country to get into digital banking so that the next step will be the world wide implementation of the mark, the rfid chip and later the brain chip.
Daniel tells us that the Lion(England) will have it’s Eagle(US) wings ripped off(War of Independents) and then the Lion will stand up as a man and the mind of a man will be given to it. Daniel also speaks about the 4th Beast which will consume the world and tells us that these beast represent nations/governments.
The only government consuming the world is the UN and it does have 7 heads and 10 horns. The 7 heads make up the members of the UN permanent security council which are Russia(Bear), China(Dragon) England(Lion) and France which is part of the EU which is run by 4 presidents(4headed leopard). The 10 horns are the non permanent members which are rotated out every 2 years. The 5th permanent member of the UN is the woman that rides the UN beast which is the US. The UN is located in New York city watched by the Woman(Statue of Liberty).
Revelation also tells us that the UN Beast will have alion’s mouth and the number of the Beast is the number of a man, this lion beast man of Daniel.
God\'s Dirt Kid says
Oh now, THAT is a VERY deep rabbit hole. Amen, Amen.
Prince William was the 1000th inducted into Royal Garter since it was begun in the 1300s.
As for Masonics (there are actually 100 degrees, not 33 a most believe.) When one studies ancient architecture and understands the Craft Levels of the builders, their power and connections, it (can) give a deeper meaning to scripture about the rock THE BUILDERS rejected becomes the corner stone.
Top dawgs selected the corner stone to begin, and no doubt a group of them selected the one. So…The Rock the (stoneMASONS) rejected becomes the Cornerstone.
Masonry and Christianity are NOT compatible.
The “savior” for Masons is Hiram Abiff NOT Jesus Christ.
And they swear to demon (but most have no clue of the names’ origin). And make ritual promises as they rise by degree to do VERY unchristian things No matter the sins in our eyes they get rewarded with eternity in the Celestial Lodge.
The non-Masonics are called The Profane.
jerry rigg says
Is this word surprising? If it is , it shouldnt be as the Vatican has already sided with the Muslims why not the man of sin as well? Problem is when you lose your source of divine authority in matters of faith and morals (as the roman catholics have after departing from holding only to holy scripture as the source of divine authority) you are susceptible to a lot of error.
Sujit Thomas says
I know the pope has reached out to many faiths and especially Islam. So the one-world religion is definitely taking shape before our eyes.
Marcio Ferez Jr. says
Sujit, may God shine His face upon you and keep pouring His word to you.
Sujit Thomas says
Thank you for the edification, Marcio. I pray the same for you, my brother!
Lydia Hodge says
Thanks Sujit for sharing this word. I agree 100 percent! You do a good job ? of showing that some of us still have many questions.
I am Catholic and since 2011 I was aware that the pope who would follow Pope Benedict is a false pope and The False Prophet according to the messages from Maria Divine Mercy. There are several websites that contain her messages. She even had a message about Pope Benedict leaving on Feb 11, 2012 exactly one year to the day when Pope Benedict announced his resignation on Feb 11, 2013.
jerry rigg says
Id be very careful about receiving messages from anyone if that person isnt abiding solely in the truth of Gods word even if some predictions pan out. After all didnt Jeannie Dixon also predict some things accurately?
Sujit Thomas says
I would second that warning, Jerry.
Brother Steven says
It’s interesting to note that during the time of John’s writing the book of Revelation that Rome with seven hills or mountains was reigning over the kings of the earth not Turkey’s Constantinople which also has seven hills.
“Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits”, “The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
In my view as a former Catholic but now having read the Scriptures for myself,
I can testify that the Vatican is so steeped in paganism and idolatry, that it seems only right that they are an end times player for the wrong side.
Look, people convert all the time from one religion to another. I am a Catholic myelf and after reading the scriptures, several times over, that has not stopped me from being Catholic for they have not disproved the Christian basis of both Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity. In fact, theforemost apologists from Catholicism are former protestants with decades of bible knowledge behind their belts. I can mention Scott Hahn, Alex Jones (the former Pentecostal and not the Infowars guy), Robert Sungensis, Michael Crumbie to name just a few.
I would invite you to see their converstion stories on youtube and see for yourself what they discovered. They started believing like you but after worthwhile investigation and bible reading have to come to a different conclusion.
I am glad you found Christ and that you continue on your journey with him, but the Catholic Church is not that pagan monster I have been reading for decades. Take care of yourself.
Donna Bryant Sikes says
I had this one 9-21-15. If it gives you any confirmation. I pulled up to a house in the back of a vehicle. I didn’t see the driver. Something had happened out in the world. Some kind of destruction or something that affected a lot of places. There was death. I remember that.
When I got out of the right side, back seat, two people greeted me. One was a young man that hugged my neck. I called him brother. That’s just the way I saw him. The other person was a young lady. She never spoke. She just smoked one cigarette after the other. I didn’t hug her and she didn’t acknowledge I was there.
We went on inside the house and straight to the kitchen. There were covered dishes on the cabinets like you see when you visit a home where there’s been a death. Sitting at the table was a minister that I knew years ago and trusted very much. He’s a very humble person. He sat with pen and papers in hand. I stood beside him while the young man and woman went to the other side of the kitchen. The minister asked her, “Are you going to the church?”
I understand he was talking about a funeral. She still didn’t speak, just kept smoking one after the other. The minister went on to say, “I don’t understand why you don’t go to the church to seal the final decree.”
I thought maybe it was too hard on her to go right now and didn’t understand why any papers couldn’t wait. I didn’t know what the final decree meant. The minister asked the young man very sternly, “Why is she not going to the church?”
The young man replied, “Because she is of the church of satan’s love.”
The minister looked at me to make sure he had my attention and said, “Satan has shown us a lot of love here today.”
We were still staring at each other when a small boy walked in wearing a white robe. He stared at the minister and then walked on around him and kept going. The minister followed him and said, “You have shown us a lot of love here today.”
I knew the boy was a symbol of a religious figure that appears sweet and innocent as a child. And I knew the minister had me there to warn me about him and the young lady. When something really bad happens in the world, these two I was warned about.
On Sept 23rd, 2015, I awoke feeling very distraught. I was going to call my brother and sister to be in prayer because something wasn’t right at all. When I started to press my brothers number, he called me. He said the pope is in the USA. I told him we need to pray. I didn’t know what they were doing but something was happening. I later read that when a woman is spoken of in bible prophecy, it is usually speaking of the church. And smoke in Revelation relates to judgment, doom, torment.
Just before the dream, I had a vision. On the left side, I saw a tall, slender man walking up a tall flight of steps to huge columns, but there was no building, just columns. I later saw the structure on the Internet and asked what it was. I was told it was Pergamum. A friend emailed me the history of the place. Then I read Rev 2:12-14. On the right side was a traffic light that turned green. Just wanted to share this dream and vision. It seemed to relate. Thank you. God bless.
Given that many here and elsewhere have seen that Obama (a tall, slender man) is indeed the antichrist and pergamum is the seat of satan on this earth, your vision sounds like Obama getting the green light to take his place as the son of perdition. We live in perilous times.
Donna Bryant Sikes says
It sure seems like it.
Kathleen Nelson says
I heard like
The Land is ready
Sujit Thomas says
Thanks for sharing this, Donna.
God bless you too.
God\'s Dirt Kid says
Many thanks Sujit! Inspiring piece.
AND the image of St Peter’s reveals something historical. See that tall tower thingie in the courtyard? THAT was one of those Mohammad thingies.There were a lot such tower/spires in ancient Rome.
In the Word the faithful were ordered to tear down such towers and high places. This Muslim tower remains. Why? It was there, St. Peter’s was NOT) and is much newer than most realize.
That IMO nasty pagan tower got-a-pass!!! At the time they used personification beautifully, giving it human traits. That tower had WITNESSED the upside down crucifixion of St. Peter, so in honor of a heathen relic and what it SAW they built around it, And The Faithful casually saunter up and kiss it in veneration.
Ever since I learned the truth seeing it rather rankles me. But the Evil One does love to use nostalgia, emotions, legends and lies.
I’ve read a lot over recent years. I think USA is cultural/financial Babylon. There is a water tower on Long Island for town of Babylon, NY. Ship captains hove toward that Babylon tower as a guidepost, then hang a left to go to NY Harbor, past Lady Liberty, designed/called ISIS and changed to Lady Liberty when the French and Brethern in USA realized Christians of the early 1870s would NOT
cotton to that.
Create a lovely legend and The Lie Will fly!
I believe Rome is religious Babylon.
And when the War in Iraq began and the US taxpayer funded The Elaborate and Lavish Green Zone I right away wondered if Bagdhad (one known as Nebudcanezzer’s BABYLON wouldn’t be the physical location during Tribulation.
Saddam Hussein considered himself Nebudcannezar reincarnated.
I am so thankful for those (John Paul Jackson and many others)as well as true researchers, historians, God has given wisdom to unlock that not to be revealed until the Time the Lord God Appointed for understanding
Hmm… Muhammed lived in the 6th century, several hundred years after the upside-down crucifixion of Peter the Apostle. It isn’t likely that an obelisk from ancient Rome would represent Islam. Or Isis, a pagan Egyptian goddess. Not saying these things aren’t offensive to the true faith, but they aren’t Islamic.
Thank you, Sujit, for your insights. I do believe that the current Pope is a great deceiver–because he already is. Many Catholics with sincere Christian faith already know this and are already moving their faith “underground.” Several Catholic prophecies have been made and given to the Vatican in the last century in the hope that the Vatican may repent, but have been either ostracized (Maria Divine Mercy) or falsified (3rd Secret of Fatime) by the Catholic Church. The last prophecy of Malachi states: “In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will lead the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.” The wording, “lead the sheep through many tribulations,” denotes a common Christian image of Christ the Shepherd–a positive and heroic role. Thus, I believe that there will be another pope–a “true pope” rather than the false Pope Francis–and this true pope will lead an underground church during a period of intense persecution. It is very likely that this last, heroic Pope will not be recognized as such by the world. Perhaps it will be like it was during the Western Schism of the 15th century during which there were multiple rival Popes vying for the seat of Peter at the same time.
God\'s Dirt Kid says
Sorry. Like Hillary Clinton “I mis-spoke”.
Towers/obelisks go well back into the BC millennia and pagan religions and phallic worship. Built then, with us now, in the Freedom Tower at WTC site with an Islamic type minuret hoisted to perch atop the edifice.
According to Burke’s Peerage Queen Elizabeth ties into the bloodline of Mohammad, a factoid she tries to keep quiet and which Moslems announce with great pride.
Recently Prince William announced that when King he will be The Defender of ALL Faiths – not THE Faith. Interesting….
I am Catholic and I believed since 2011 that the pope who followed Pope Benedict is a false pope and the False Prophet from the Messages of Maria Divine Mercy. As you see in this link, she had a message about Pope Benedict leaving on Feb 11, 2012 (exactly one year to the day when Pope Benedict announced his resignation on Feb 11, 2013). Please see page 12 for that quote.