In my previous post, I shared my interpretation of a dream I received in November 2014, which was a warning to leave the United States before 2020. Since sharing that, I received two confirmations from independent sources.
The following testimony was shared by Z3 visitor Grasshopper219.
“I’ve believed that something would happen in 2020 since I received this word from the Lord. I used to spend Saturday mornings at a lake located on a seminary’a property close to my house. I was going over my notes and scripture references from a Derek Prince message I had listened to on hearing God’s voice. This was on March 14, 2015, which was Pi Day.
I paused to pray. At that time, CERN was kicking back up, and I was just thinking of all of the evil in this world. I asked out loud, ‘Lord, how much longer can this possibly go on?’
Much to my surprise, I received an immediate answer, ‘Five years.’
So I questioned, ‘Five years?’
Again, impressed on my spirit, ‘Five years.’
Again I questioned it, ‘Five years?’
‘Five years.’ Each reply was more insistent than the previous ones.
I sat for a moment, in shock, and reflected on what just happened. I returned to my notes and, when I looked up the next scripture referenced in my Bible, I was floored.
11 So He said, ‘Go forth and stand on the mountain before the Lord.’ And behold, the Lord was passing by! And a great and strong wind was rending the mountains and breaking in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind. And after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake.
12 After the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a sound of a gentle blowing.
13 When Elijah heard it, he wrapped his face in his mantle and went out and stood in the entrance of the cave. And behold, a voice came to him and said, ‘What are you doing here, Elijah?’ (1 Kings 19:11-13)
That scripture confirmed to me I had received a word from the Lord. Five years from that day is March 14 2020. I don’t know what will happen at that time, but I wholeheartedly believe it will be something significant.”
Exactly three weeks later on April 4 2015, author, prophet, and founder of Joy Ministries, Dr. Patricia Green, was praying in the spirit when she heard the Lord say, “Five more Passovers to preach the gospel.”
That same day, there was a lunar eclipse and a blood moon. She believes it was a confirmation of what God spoke to her because the newspapers called it the “5-minute blood moon” because it was the shortest blood moon of the century.
If she heard correctly, it means we only have until Passover of 2020 to openly preach the gospel. Passover 2020 begins on April 8, just three weeks after the March 14 date received by Grasshopper219. I believe God is warning us about great trouble coming during that time.
Dr. Green shared her testimony in the following 6-minute video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUtBR0vWfGc
Conclusion:
Based on these testimonies, I believe God is warning His people of great trouble ahead, only a few years away. In a world where money is king, financial trouble will lead to all sorts of other trouble, including civil unrest, violence, and even civil war. Tens of millions of Americans rely on government assistance to pay their monthly bills. What will they do when their government checks stop coming?
The good news is God sees trouble coming from a long way off and makes preparations to provide for His people. More good news is the coming financial shakings will cause many people to open their hearts and minds to hear and receive the message of truth, the good news of salvation through Jesus Christ. People who are not currently open to hear will hear and receive the gift of eternal life.
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It sure does seem like James idea about having until the end of 2019 and perhaps part of 2020 was dead on right.
With covid becoming a pandemic in March 2020.
We even know people that had planned to leave the US but delayed and now they are stuck becasue the countries they were wanting to move to no longer allow immigration due to covid
This was spot on. In the UK, 13/14th March was lockdown day.
Who else is here in 2020?? Awesome word. I love looking back through these prophecies to see what was accurate. So amazing that she got March right.
Well, you certainly saw that coming. Spot on.
Hi James, may I ask you what are your thoughts in regards to this post?
I have not personally received any specific warnings regarding 2020, but I thought the similarity in these two warnings was interesting enough to share it. When I wrote this post back in 2016, I was interpreting a dream I had in 2014 as a countdown to 2020, but I later realized the countdown does not begin until the powerful woman I spoke with in my dream leaves her position. I don’t believe she has even taken her position yet, so that must happen first, then she must leave before the countdown begins.
I am expecting a serious financial crisis in the fall of 2020, but again relying on others for that forecast. There have been many prophetic warnings regarding trouble in 2020.
For those who have the funds, Consider the MM2H Malaysian program. SNS
I read that over 500 Anti-Trump Impeachment demonstrations are planned in the USA on Tuesday 17th December (today), in favor of the political trial of Donald Trump.
If these demonstrations are scheduled for Afternoon/Evening, they might have an affect on the stock market
That timing lines up with some other possible reasons for a financial crisis and even a dollar collapse. In Johnathan Cahn’s book, the Oracle, he points to different 50 year Jubilee cycles regarding Israel. The two cycles are offset by 20 years so that both 1947 and 1967 were significant years, and each had significant events at 50 year intervals. That would seem to indicate that it is possible for Jubilee cycles to not always be aligned. One possible date for a 50 year Jubilee endpoint is August 15, 1971. Nixon closed the gold window which meant that the dollar was no longer backed by gold. He erased the debt on every US dollar. Erasing debt is one of the things that happens on a Jubilee. 50 years before that date, the US had just ended a depression. It lasted from January 1920 until July 1921. August 1921 was the first month of recovery and was exactly 50 years to the month before Nixon removed the gold standard. That depression had the highest rate of deflation ever recorded for the US. If the 50 year cycle is accurate, we may see a collapse of the dollar in 2021 with the possibility of a recession or depression beginning in 2020. Jackson believed the Euro would collapse shortly before the dollar. Brexit is happening soon and will weaken the European Union. The timing may be lining up.
The implications of the current trade agreement between US and China . According to the agreement, in the next two years, China need to buy extra $200b products and services from US. China need to buy $40b – $50b agricultural products from US each year . The normal purchase for the agricultural products from China is $18b. In order to fulfill $40b-$50b purchase, China will need to drastically reduce the purchase from South America such as Brazil. This should cause some trouble to Brazil.
Jesus came to me in my sleep and told me The World Will End In 2020 also years later God came to me showed me this big red planet I saw 28 inside of it I believe that 2028 is The Day Of The Lord and what Jesus meant by 2020 is that the world has we know it will end in 2020 I believe in two raptures one in 2020 and the other in 2028
I think 2028 make sense because in 2027, Arab countries will have a solar eclipse marking their ultimate demise.
Wow James! When I first became a Christian I felt two specific years were really big: 2017 and 2020. I felt 2020 to be the year when the New World Order will be out in the open. Maybe even the mid trib point.
Thanks for sharing this Melissa. I am collecting confirmations about the year 2020 and I just added yours to the list.
Not really sure why you dream revealed a woman, maybe because this election was Hilary vs Trump? I would say you misinterpreted it. Trump is now our 45th president. Obama will be leaving, so that is true. The only “lady” it could be is Michelle. Could make sense if you truly look at it. I am no fan of any of these politicians, but I just don’t see Obama reporting to Michelle. Could be someone else, maybe in a few years it will all make more sense. Find one thing very interesting though, what is Obama going to do now? Will he go after a UN head position? When Trump gets rid of Obamacare, will Obama try to start civil unrest?
The answer is my dream was about 2020, not 2016, so no wonder it did not make sense to you. We are talking about two different times with two different casts of characters. The woman in my dream leaves the U.S. for a few years and then returns. I was not shown her identity, but I listed my reasons why I don’t believe it is Hillary Clinton.
Wow – it’s 2020 and you called it JB. I don’t know if anyone is still active on this website but as you know now, we’re in the midst of the covid-19 crisis pretty much shutting down the world economies. Some say its in
Isaiah 26:20 but we’ve entered a new world. I think the rapture is soon according to the book of truth now open which is mostly Dan 11 unveiled but more study needed.
When I received the dream in 2014 about the woman returning, I thought the six or seven day (year) countdown started from the time I received the dream, which would mean 2020, but later I realized I had overlooked an important clue she gave me, telling me, “I’m going to be leaving…” So the countdown begins when she leaves. Since then, I’ve been watching for the rise of this powerful woman but have yet to see anyone like her, so I think that must happen first. Then she rules for some unknown period of time before she leaves. So I think a lot still has to happen before the countdown begins.
Regarding the rapture, I have identified 38 Bible prophecies that must be fulfilled before then, so again, I think we are not there yet.
James, so is it five years after the lady leaves? How long do you think we are going to be in the first stage of the four stages of the dollar dream that you’ve share.
This is an episode from Simpsons, might be a coincidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMRtB6yEavU
The woman said, “let’s see, today is Wednesday. I’m going to be leaving soon but I’ll be returning next Tuesday or Wednesday. If you and your family are still here when I come back, you’ll all be killed.”
My interpretation is the days are years, so it would be six or seven years after she departs. I don’t think she’s even started in her role yet, so if my interpretation is right, it’s still years in the future.
Regarding the first season of the dollar, since it’s all about the dollar getting stronger, I think it includes a big drop in the euro and Swiss franc relative to the dollar because separately I was shown USD/CHF going up to 1.35 which would be a dramatic weakening of the franc. I believe the first season started in 2015 because in 2014 I was told, “It will come next year along with increased tensions among the American people.” At the time, I thought that meant the whole thing would be completed in 2015, but I was only told it would come and it did because the dollar index moved up significantly in 2015 vs 2014 and has held onto those gains. I expect it will grow even stronger, but the timing for completing the first season was not revealed. Martin Armstrong’s model is forecasting a currency reset in 2020 or 2021 so we’ll see.
Thanks James, God Bless you!
John, there is a movement by her followers to petition the anonymous electoral voters to not vote for Trump. There is nothing in the constitution to prevent these voters to change their vote; 29 STATE laws prohibiting changing their vote but 31don’t.
For anyone who’s interested, this is an excellent article that fully explains the context and fulfilment of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy. I think one of the primary reasons many Christians use this passage with an end time application is because they forget to read the preceding chapters of Daniel which is vital in order to gauge the context of Gabriel being sent by God to reveal the meaning of this prophecy to Daniel. With that being said, here is the link and I suggest that EVERYONE read this and pray to God for proper wisdom to correctly understand this passage of scripture that somehow has led to so much confusion.
http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/an-end-times-70th-week-of-daniel-is-illogical/
Natalie, this is such a blessing! Thank you! This person nails it, so I’m so excited about this. He doesn’t mention these things, but the word was given to build the temple in Ezra 7:11-26 and this happened in 457 BC (I don’t have a reference in my notes, so I’ll have to find that again). Jesus started His ministry in 27 AD, and the seventieth week ended in 34 AD. There is record of a lunar eclipse on Wednesday, April 25, 31 AD, which is right where it needs to be to confirm this, since there was a lunar eclipse on the night Jesus died.
This person also proves that the 70th week means something different than everyone believes by pointing out that “he” confirms the covenant. He does not make a covenant, He confirms the covenant which He had already made (with Abraham). Here is a link to that discussion: http://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/70-weeks-of-daniel-covenant-deception/
Oh, and the Lord revealed to me how long the tribulation will really last (since it does not say anywhere in the Bible). He gave Julie Whedbee a word and let me know what He was talking about. Pray about this and ask Him for revelation. Here is the word I’m referring to: http://iamcallingyounow.blogspot.de/2016/06/events-escalate-with-great-intensity-as.html
Were you planning to share this revelation with us?
I would LOVE to share it with you, but it is not for me to share. It is for the Lord to reveal to you. That is why I say to pray about it and ask Him to reveal it. Everything IS in the Bible, but it is hidden and comes alive for you at the time when you are ready to receive it. It will mean nothing to you if I just tell you. It has to come from God for it to mean something.
I will advise you though, to not accept people’s interpretations so easily. The Lord has revealed so much to me, and much of what He has revealed has shaken me and left me stunned. My first reaction is, “but the Bible says such and such.” Then, when I go and look it up, I find that it does not say what I thought it said! It is EASY to think that, well the Bible says “Such and such will happen”, based upon an interpretation, and not based upon what it really says.
What will really happen is actually upside down from what everyone seems to believe. Just let go of all ideas and beliefs about what you think will happen. It’s ok to theorize, but don’t set your heart on your own ideas. Instead, admit that, unless the Lord has told you, you don’t know how exactly things will happen. Seek the Lord for understanding and ask Him to put the puzzle pieces together for you. He has told me that He is bursting at the seams with anticipation to share with each of us what He wants us to know. But He can’t share these things with us if we are not ready to accept them.
Well the reason I ask, besides overall curiosity, is that you stated that the command to build the temple was in Ezra 7:11-26, but many bible chronologists mark Ezra 1:1-4 as the most accurate AND FIRST command to build the temple and fits Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy most accurately. Maybe you could share your insights on this difference/discrepancy.
But on your statement of how long the great tribulation will last, if the Lord has shared information with you about this and it differs from “common mainline thinking”, why would you not share that information? I am particularly curious because I have been questioning the “common” belief that the great tribulation with the seals being broken, trumpets and bowl judgments being 7 years. But I can’t find anywhere in the bible that says this, and I think the Holy Spirit has prompted me to dig deeper to find the answers.
So you won’t share this information?
As I mentioned, I would love to share, but only with the Lord’s permission. He did tell me that He wants to be the One to reveal His secrets. I will pray about this, though.
You can search deeper, though, on Leviticus 23, reviewing the Feast of Trumpets and Day of Atonement. Take a very close look at the battle of Jericho, also. The Lord does repeat patterns.
Hi Lee, thank you for your question regarding the command to build the temple. I wrote down “temple” earlier, but I wasn’t thinking clearly. Daniel 9:25 does not talk about rebuilding the temple, but about restoring and building Jerusalem. Also, just to clarify, the Lord did not reveal to me that the word to build Jerusalem is given in Ezra 7:11-26. I did my own searching here.
Ok, to start, we know that the temple was first restored (from Nehemiah 6:10-11, we can understand that the temple was fully built). In the 20th year of King Artaxerxes, Nehemiah was given permission to go to Jerusalem to rebuild it, according to Nehemiah 2:1-6. The reason why I chose Ezra 7:11-26 is because King Artaxerxes gave the word to Ezra, in verse 25, to “set magistrates and judges who may judge all the people who are in the region beyond the River…” He gave this word during his seventh year, according to Ezra 7:7. So in my opinion, that is the word to rebuild because the groundwork for Jerusalem is being laid by first setting up a governing body. My thinking is that you don’t give a word to set up a government but not a word to rebuild the city which is in need of said government.
Here is my source for the date, 457 BC: http://dedication.www3.50megs.com/457.html. About two-thirds the way down, it says “That means the seventh year of Artaxerxes started in the fall of 458 and ran through to the summer of 457.”
Interesting how similar this person’s conclusion is to mine. I looked this up and bookmarked it a long time ago, but don’t remember anything of what the source contained. I had to do all the searching around all over again to answer your question because I never made any notes other than the one scripture passage.
God bless!
Hello Lee, I have been praying about sharing this with you. What the Lord told me yesterday is that He does not want me to share because then it becomes “one more person telling the world what they think God has revealed to them about the end times.” He said that it just adds to the confusion. He then said to me, “Should those who have not sought Me be given the same privileges that those who have sought Me have been given? To those who come to Me, laying down their opinions and beliefs, and seeking Me, just as you have done, I will reveal My secrets.”
To add to this, every day I read the prophetic word that Glynda Lomax (Linkous) is given. Yesterday, I hadn’t had time to do that until bedtime. What the Lord spoke through her reiterates what He told me earlier in the day. He cannot be more clear. Here is a link to that word: http://wingsofprophecy.blogspot.de/2016/11/my-nearness.html
If you would like to connect with me, you may email me. I gave my email address to Natalie, so just scroll up a little.
God bless,
Dorothy
Amen Dorothy! Isn’t it wonderful when the truth is laid bare? I just cannot stand the deception that prevails in this age but praise be to God for His Holy Spirit who reveals all truth!
Hi Natalie, I read a comment which you wrote, on October 16th I think, and I have received something from the Lord which might confirm something you wrote. Please email me if you are willing: ddegman@earthlink.net
God Bless!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3005952739&feature=iv&src_vid=Xyr10QFDpvo&v=aDRj3MsNNO0
Hi all, something to share with everyone
There’s another comment I think in the Obama announces the aliens post about the alien disclosure happening in 2020.
I believe that the woman president James Bailey saw might indeed be a “hybrid”. And not a hidden one. Obama would put an ET/half-ET in power at that stage because the aliens are the “saviors” and the hope of humankind.
God is answering the prayers of Americans to expose evil in this election, there are none here who are ungrateful that the beast and her crime family of perverts are not being made transparent, it’s a good thing.
When I review the predictions of the last months (even in light of what has not happened yet) I see the rear ends of hundreds of sheep as they run up over the next hill for the newest word or revelation, many of them are young and they have not yet learned to “quiet themselves as a child weaned from its mother’s breast”.
That we would be drug from the view of America’s destruction to thinking of billions and billions killed, and then worrying about 2020 is an affront to God in the here and now. To keep moving the bar violates the express intent of prophesy, is a reproach to the Church, and may be counter to God’s true purposes right now.
Does this mean abandoning themes(?), not necessarily, but where will you be when the election is over and the transition of power has happened in January ’17 and Obama walks off into history? Who will be found moving the bar then for the sheep to pursue instead of our blessed and only potentate forever, the king of kings and lord of lords Jesus Christ?
In this post, I documented each detail of my dream carefully to show what it reveals for the year 2020, so I don’t know how that is moving the bar. If there are specific details where you disagree with my interpretation, please share them. Otherwise, please stop making accusations.
As stated in the title and throughout the article, the dream primarily reveals what happens in 2020. The information provided is not enough to draw any hard conclusions about the 2016 election because it depends on when Obama departs. I saw him departing, but was not given any dates. As stated in the article, if he departs prior to the woman returning, then that leaves a gap for someone else to occupy the White House. Your comments sound like you did not even read the article.
The strange turn of events in the election could go many different ways just as it could have before. Trump could win by a landslide as some have seen or Hillary may have to step down forcing them to find a new candidate and there is barely time for that. Could that move Obama to suspend the election? Just saying there are still many different ways this could turn out.
Jesus told me world ends in 2020 that’s why im here also God showed me the year 2028 which I believe to be the day of the Lord
Back in about the yer 2000, I couldn’t get my mind off of the parable of the ten virgins. I was so concerned. Obviously they were all virgins–so, keeping away from the ways of man. They were all waiting for the bridegroom. They all thought they would go with Him. But only five got to go with Him. That was huge! It was the oil! I asked the Lord what is the oil? As it was obvious that we couldn’t make it without the oil! He said it was OBEDIENCE
Then I was scared. I thought oh no– what if I can’t hear Him! I won’t make it! ( but I obviously I had just heard from him! )
Some years later he showed me a simple but prime example of hearing Him and obeying
I was thinking of doing a little chore that was on the bottom of my to do list. I was quickened in my spirit ( uneasiness in my gut) but I thought , well it’s not very important, but it would be one thing to cross off the list and it should only take just a few minutes to do. Well it took an hour and a half out of my day; as one thing led to another. Then, later that evening, the Lord wanted to bless me with something and I had to sit down and cry. Because I remembered that the Lord tried to tell me but I ignored Him. So, now when it’s time to receive this wonderful blessing from Him, I realized I robbed myself of an hour and a half of blessing by my disobedience! It was my own fault
From this He showed me that He wants us to OBEY in every little thing. It’s not just the big, or so called important things. Or even, just ‘spiritual’ things. My chore was just an insignificant natural thing of this world, but the Lord spoke to me even about that, because He knows all things and He cares for us! OBEDIENCE starts with the little things in life. Just as a baby doesn’t have much responsibility at first, but the older we get the more is asked of us. So too in the Spirit. We MUST obey in every little thing. When He sees our obedience, he will start to give us greater requests. As we grow and finally come to the bigger, ever life or death issues, we will already have been familiar with obeying His voice. It won’t be scary, it’ll be natural every day walk with Him
But of course for us to even HEAR Him it takes the right tools. And He has provided all that we need.
Just as a carpenter would have a hard time doing his job without a hammer or a saw… So we too need to acquire the full armoury of tools to be able to do all He requires of us
The Lord said in John 3:3 except a man be born again, he cannot SEE the kingdom of God
John 3:5. Except a man be born of WATER and of the SPIRIT, he cannot ENTER into the kingdom of God
We MUST be baptized in the Holy Spirirt!!! This is a major tool/weapon in our arsenal. We are going into battle without our armor on, if we do not have the baptism of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues
At all costs, we Must come to be able to HEAR HIM so we can OBEY HIM
Fasting is also amighty tool that will help us greatly
Blessings, Saints
Yawchal – I agree obedience is pivotal. With an infinite God, the scale of our requests are irrelevant, whether they are things that we see as BIG or things that we see as trivial. To an infinite God all requests not matter the human perspective size are essentially equal so nothing is too small to take to the Lord.
This cuts both ways!
As you said, with obedience it is even the small things that matter when he is telling us to do something. When the command comes from an infinite God, there is no command that is optional or “big” or “little”. Just as we can bring any request to Him no matter the size, He can give us a command no matter the size in our estimation, and he expects obedience and faithfulness.
If we love Him we will obey him.
Yawchal
Thanks for sharing. Your word has blessed me. Many times when I was doing something, I felt God wants me to put it down and spend time with Him. I always ignore Him and want to do it when I am free. I realised that I can not do this anymore. I more I put it off, the less I hear from Him.
Take no thought for tomorrow (much less this future prophetic fear porn) as there is enough evil to contend with today..Just remember we CAN speak things into existence, even if wrong. The perpetual epiphanitis of this site regarding stock market plays is over the top although entertaining. On the eighth day God created the reverse ETF so one can make money on other other people’s pain….
sorry to ask a dumb question but does anyone know where FAZ options are traded, meaning city? Is it Chicago CBOE or in NYC? thx.;
People…something big is likely happening at the Vatican (I suspect they are making preparations for Pope Francis to take the leading role in the aftermath of the disaster that’s ahead of us)…this is a link to a news article from skynews in the UK that central Italy has been struck by a 6.6 magnitude earthquake…the third in the area in two weeks! Apparently this one flattened a Catholic Church! here is the link:
http://news.sky.com/story/powerful-66-earthquake-hits-central-and-southern-italy-10638327
http://holyspiritwind.blogspot.co.nz/2016/10/john-shorey-newsletter-fasten-your_29.html
FYI FOLKS
I highly recommend reading John Soreys newsletter . In 1983 Chuck Youngbrandt was shown an accidental nuclear exchange between Russia & America . In December unknown year , Russian computers will malfunction and launch 12 ICBMs on a cold December nite , Chuck believes December 14th . Russian technicians will scramble to issue self-destruct orders to the ICBMs and many self-destruct , some of the ICBMs are destroyed by our missile defence , one gets thru with 4 warheads . One warhead wobbles off course and hits north of NY city , three other warheads hit and destroy – Columbia , South Carolina – Richmond , Virginia – & Lexington , Kentucky . The US President will order a limited response and fires three nuclear warheads at three Russian cities destroying them with their populations . This is the primary factor that will bring Russia to make war on the US .
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.
CRAZY! O_O but we will make it through (HOPEFULLY) 😛 😀 :J
I am very skeptical of any date setting but we clearly are given in the Scriptures not only signs of the season of his Return, but also a pattern the events of the end-years will fall into portrayed by the prophetic Feasts of the LORD. I think this pattern does not allow for a soon return. Much needs to happen yet.
It’s easy to look beck (once you realize the prophetic nature of the Feasts) to the spring feasts, and see them perfectly fulfilled by Christ in the week of his Death and Resurrection. it’s a little more difficult to see just how the fall feasts will be fulfilled, but we know the pattern is there.
Here is some speculation I am chewing on. NOT DOCTRINAL STATEMENT. The Feast of Trumpets begins a 10 day span called the Days of Repentance or the Days of Awe leading up to the Day of Atonement. Jesus will return on the Last Day of this age. This is most likely typified by the Day of Atonement. I don’t think it unreasonable to expect a (Trumpet) event 10 years prior to his return signaling the final Days of Repentance / Awe. Throughout the Bible 10 is the number of testing. Mankind has one final period of testing ahead!
There is nothing in the Scripture that ties the span of Antichrist’s 3 1/2 year Reign to the length of birth pangs / tribulation time; and I honestly see no evidence we should tie Daniels 70th week to it either. I think the greatest wisdom in deciphering the end-time puzzle would be to apply ourselves to seeking greater insight as to the pattern shown in the fall Feasts. I don’t claim any great progress in this area yet but am seeking it earnestly.
Blessings to all who love our Jesus;
Paul Benson
It had also occurred to me that the start of breaking of seals and the first trumpet sounding may not be concurrent (same starting point) with antichrist’s 3 1/2 year reign or be bound to a 7 year period. I’m still grappling with Daniel’s 70th week “fulfilled or future”.
No need for a response. Just wanted to point that out as I review the additional comments on this article.
James, thank you for yet another excellent post. Here’s a thought… Israel was released from captivity after 400 years and then immediately the nations whom they served were judged (Gen. 15:13 & 14). The United States will be exactly 400 years old in 2020… From Wikipedia: “The Mayflower Compact, signed by 41 English colonists on the ship Mayflower on November 11, 1620, was the first written framework of government established in what is now the United States.” (Interestingly our 400th birthday is the usual time of the election). One of the final prophecies before Christ’s return is that God will regather Israel from all other lands. First He will send fishermen (which I believe could mean those preaching the gospel), then He will send hunters (which could mean persecution to drive them back to their homeland) (Jer. 16:14-16). Jerusalem will be a cup of trembling for all nations (Zech. 12:2-3) (when we divide their land, God will divide ours and all of the United Nations who condone Israel’s division) (Gen. 12:3). So when America (Mystery Babylon) is judged after 400 years, the Jewish people will flee from secular captivity to their homeland. Side note: I believe that shortly after this WWIII judgement, the world will cry for peace and the Antichrist will offer it, beginning the 7 year great tribulation (with a form of false peace for 3.5 years, then persecution).
I also am a fan of studying pattern, but I am having trouble seeing the fit here. We were set free from England 400 years ago, not holding the Jews captive for that long. Maybe I’m missing the point (not the first time; probably not the last).
Also I do not believe America is in imminent danger of being destroyed as Babylon. Judged yes, and possibly quite thoroughly; but destroyed as Babylon no. The destruction of Babylon is one of the last things which takes place right before or in conjunction with Christ’s return (Rev. ch.18+19). Plus it is the ten kings of the beast who destroy her. How could they destroy her before antichrist rises? I cant picture that.
What is left of America, or some state that was previously part of America, could very well be Babylon or a part of her; but her destruction is yet future. At least that is how I read Revelation 18+19. Or how do you see those chapters on her destruction playing out?
Blessings
Good timing for your comment, Paul. Here’s an article by John Shorey that I just read which encapsulates the literal timing of the start of America’s judgements and the end (Biblically speaking chronologically). He even talks about those 10 kings: http://holyspiritwind.blogspot.co.nz/2016/10/john-shorey-newsletter-fasten-your_29.html?m=1
I was not implying that we have been persecuting the Jews (or that they have been in physical bondage) here for 400 years. Just saying that there’s no coincidence our ultimate judgement (mystery Babylon being destroyed in one hour, probably by nuclearweapons in around 2020) will immediately proceed the final Jews departure/return to their homeland by our 400th birthday (approximately). I also believe Jewish persecution will soon intensify here, which, coupled with America’s increasing birth pang judgements, will drive them back to their homeland). But America has begun to enslave people, spiritually speaking. Mystery Babylon/America is also known spiritually in the Bible as Sodom and Egypt. Both Sodom and Egypt were judged immediately after God’s people fled from their spiritual and physical bondage.
Wish I had time to go into my theological reasons for believing America will be destroyed before the great tribulation, but I believe we will all find out soon enough. Since revelation is chronologically out of order to an extent, I keep an open heart about timing of events.
Geoff;
Interesting article, and a lot of it conveys aspects of what I expect, such as false flag / major terror strikes to further the evil of globalism.
But as to the timing of the LORDs return being 2020 or 2021 I just cannot see it. Antichrist would have to rise to power in the immediate future.For Antichrist to rise out of already established global government it will have to be a working entity which it is not at this time. These things do not form overnight.
Yes there are many elements already set to implement (like the ICC global court) but the overall structure is just not there yet. NOR the funding. This is something a lot of people don’t give consideration to. Government is a ravenous beast that devours money and resources. Where is the financial flow for the global system? Not in sight yet; but it soon will be.
Something the LORD spoke to me years ago when I was having problems digesting Daniel 11 (all the kings and wars and such) was that I should look at the description of the man Antichrist replaces v21. This man’s tag is that he is a Raiser of Taxes. The LORD spoke to me the wisdom of watching for the one who institutes a system of global taxation to fund the global government. He has a short stint and then is replaced by Antichrist. Years ago no one ever spoke of such a thing; but now global taxation is a common discussion. We must see the funding structure before we see global government and we must see global government before Antichrist can begin his 3 1/2 year reign.
In my opinion there is just too much yet to take place before the 3 1/2 years start, although I do allow that when things do begin to manifest it could really snowball.
One thing is for sure; in the next few weeks a lot of prophesy that has given will fail. This makes me concerned for folks, not just the receivers of these ‘words’ ;but also the givers. I do not relish the discouragement or impact on credibility this will bring with it. May the LORD begin now to strengthen and encourage all who will be negatively impacted by this.Thank for the link and God Bless.
I agree with you on all that Paul. I believe John Shorey sees what’s coming chronologically the same way we do, but he believes the 70 week of Daniel (7 year great tribulation) starts sooner. I definitely lean toward the Terry Bennett timeline (for the reasons you menti
Paul, I searched your website to see if you had done any articles on Daniel’s 70th week and Revelations and could not find any.
I’m wondering, from your own research, if you felt that Daniel’s 70th week is Revelations and that it lasts 7 years. Some think that Daniel’s 70th week has already occurred. I am not in that camp.
I am also interested in your view of the timing (not date) of the two witnesses, their death and resurrection, and the 3 1/2 years of the anti-christ’s reign. I’m currently working on the following view (simplified frame work):
1) Israel will rebuild the temple and restart their sacrificial ceremonies. But only priests from the tribe of Levi can do this and no one really has genealogy accurate enough to claim to be from the tribe of Levi. But, God’s two witnesses will know this and when they appear, they will be able to identify the new priesthood that enables Israel to restart the sacrifices. This starts the 7 years of Revelations.
2) The Two Witnesses prophecy for 42 months (3 1/2 years), are killed by the anti-christ, their bodies laid waste on the ground for 3 1/2 days, then they are resurrected and caught up into heaven.
3) The anti-christ defiles the new temple, the “abomination of desolation”, and begins his reign for 3 1/2 years.
4) Jesus comes in the clouds.
How do you see these particular event sequences? I intentionally left out the trumpet and bowl judgments for sake of simplification and to get to the main point of my question to you.
Thanks in advance if you can address my query!
Hi Lee;
Space would not allow a thorough response but let me make what I see as some key points. Please understand I try not to be dogmatic about a complete timeline because many aspects are not given deep consideration in the Scriptures so I feel led to be cautious about doing so. Also I am not a preterist, but do see a dual fulfilment of certain prophetic events. (A.D. 70 repeated type of thing)
I see nothing to firmly tie the 70th week to either the events of Revelation, the tribulation, or the final 7 years. If I had to make a guess I would say the 3 1/2 years ministry of Jesus filled the first half with Jesus cut off in the middle of the week; and that the last half will be fulfilled by the Body of Christ manifesting a fullness of anointing in the last 3 1/2 half years of this age. Again just speculation.
Something I am quite firm on is there is only ONE resurrection of the righteous,(NOT multiple raptures) and that takes place at the Second Coming after the tribulation (last trump in Revelation)..I tell people if you want to see the truth focus on the resurrection NOT the rapture! If you study 1 Cor. 15:12-26 it clearly speaks of the resurrection; teaching that ALL who belong to Christ shall be resurrected at his Coming. One resurrection of all who are Christ’s Church, including the two witnesses. They have their ministry during the last 3 1/2 years and are caught up with the rest of us. I am tempted to post a ton of Scripture but this will be very long already. Please read my articles on the rapture for the verses to consider.
Another key understanding is that the seals, trumpets, and bowls all run concurrently ending in the return of Christ but having different starting points; the seals beginning first, then the trumpets later, and the bowls happen coinciding with Christ’s return. Many make a mess trying to run these event consecutively. Irvin Baxter has some good understanding on this.
Once you grasp the fact there is just one resurrection at Christ’s Return, and the Revelation events of seals,trumpet,and bowls are all completed in Christ’s Return, almost all the confusion about sequence and timing vanishes. We don’t get a full picture quite yet, but our understanding is no longer fighting against itself, which I found quite a relief. Always remember it is about his Return ; and that will always be the central focus.
Your sequence appears to be built on a Dispensationalism model. The theory of dispensationalism is absolutely false, and forces many errors to manifest. It forces a false view of election, and fosters the falsehood of a pre-tribulation rapture. Both of which are totally false and injurious to the understanding. My weekly Tuesday post plainly shows why this theory on election /pre-trib is false. I’ll go ahead and post it tonite in case you want to follow up by reading it. Nice to hear form you again Lee.
Blessings;
Paul Benson
Thank you for taking the time to respond with your thoughts on this. First, let me say that I DO NOT believe in “dispensationalism” as in a way to interpret the bible. And I absolutely do not believe in a pre-trib rapture. I believe the Church will experience the whole time of the tribulation years, and will only be “caught up in the air” just prior to God’s great wrath.
You bring up an interesting point, that being the church and the two witnesses being resurrected at the same time, which would put the 3 1/2 year time of the two witnesses occurring concurrently with the 3 1/2 years of the anti-christ. I hadn’t given that particular interpretation serious consideration before, but will keep that in my mind as a possible scenario as I continue my studies.
As far as the timing of the breaking seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, I definitely agree that these events “overlap” and conclude at Christ’s return.
Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated.
Great point Geoff.
I don’t think “oil” is the Holy Spirit in the parable of the foolish/wise virgins that is mentioned in the video.
You can’t buy and sell the Holy Spirit. No one “buys or sells” the Holy Spirit so a foolish virgin could not be seriously advised by a wise virgin to go “to those that sell oil/Holy Spirit”.
Nor is the Holy Spirit a limited quantity that a wise virgin would not have enough of the Holy Spirit if she were to “give some of the Holy Spirit” to a foolish virgin. If you pray for someone you don’t lose some portion of the Holy Spirit where you don’t have enough.
I believe the oil means something else. In this parable it is specifically a physical fuel for lamps, but oil in that time could also be consumed as food as Roman soldiers did when on long marches.
If you look at the context of this parable in Matthew 25, it is one of several parables that DIRECTLY follow the description of the Great Tribulation in Matthew 24 that Christ gives to the disciples regarding what the Kingdom of Heaven will be like.
Where else do we see that phraseology of “buying and selling”?. During the Great Tribulation in Revelation, noone can buy or sell unless they have the Mark. This all ties together.
If we are to be wise virgins we need to plan for a delayed coming of the Bridegroom as the parable hints, and we need to make sure we have enough resources/fuel/food to avoid needing to buy/sell to last for the delay that will eventually require the Mark to do so. You need a long view and watch the signs of the times. You can’t delay until the last moment
The oil represents relationship with God. Think about the pearl of great value. It is worth selling everything you have so that you can buy the field that contains this pearl. Following Jesus comes at a cost. The wise virgins don’t share their oil with the foolish virgins because you can’t give your relationship to someone else. They are not going to put their lamp out trying to save you, nor are they going to give up their relationship with Jesus for you because your lamp is going out.
good insight Mem and answer Dorothy. I think it was Sujit on this sight who said (I’m paraphrasing) more important than being able to hear from God is to have a relationship with him. He gave a beautiful analogy but I can’t remember it all so Dorothy I think you gave good answer.
You are talking about natural preparation, but I think it references spiritual preparation. Remember that Jesus said in the end that He never knew them. So we must make sure we are known by Him.
I have looked at what others think this parable means and few seem to agree. When the disciples didn’t understand, they asked the Lord what He meant. We should all do that. If we ask in faith for wisdom, the Father of lights will provide in Jesus name. The basic point is that we all must be sure we are ready, but how?
Now, think about it. What does a lamp do? It provides light. What was the complaint of the foolish virgins? *Their* light was going out. There’s another parable about light. What is the lamp of the body?
Here’s another scripture:
“Let your waist be girded and your lamps burning; and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately. Blessed are those servants whom the master, when he comes, will find watching. Assuredly, I say to you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat, and will come and serve them. And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” Then Peter said to Him, “Lord, do You speak this parable only to us, or to all people? ” And the Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has. But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.
Luke 12:35-48 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/luk.12.35-48.NKJV
In terms of those who buy and sell, I don’t take it that literally. There are some scriptures that talk about buying without price and without cost. Jesus counseled the Laodiceans to buy from *Him* gold refined in the fire. In the gospels, He stressed how we must *daily* deny ourselves, take up our cross and follow Him and how we also must count the cost.
There was a case lately about a Christian who was imprisoned unjustly for two years. He said later that he never counted the cost of disciple so for the first year he felt abandoned by God and thought of suicide rather than losing his faith. He didn’t sense God’s presence or any comfort at all as he expected when he read stories of persecuted Christians elsewhere. He was built back up again when he made a decision to be steadfast.
The story reminds me of what Jesus said about the End – that the love of many will grow cold.
This all really dovetails in how we must walk according to the Spirit and not the flesh and about the condition of our hearts. And if you ever tried to stop practicing the works of the flesh by yourself, I’ll shake your hand if you could do that without Jesus. I just simply don’t believe it’s possible. I’ve stumbled over and over that law-block enough to know. If you manage to avoid one manifestation, another sneaks up. It is discussed in both Galatians and Romans. Clean the inside of the cup and dish.
It is my personal conviction that this must be maintained daily.
But I’ve gone on long enough.
I try to be truthful and correctly handle the Word of Truth, but do what the disciples did and *ask* Him what He meant. I just thought this might be helpful.
At the beginning of February this year, the Lord had separated me from my family and friends ( 2500 miles away) for 7months to draw near to Him. When i returned home, i realized that God has given me a very heavy burden for His Church and with it a series of messages titled “The Holy Ground of Fellowship”. He first showed me a fresh insight to a familiar verse of Scripture and from there the whole message flowed out. This is the Scripture and it’s fresh meaning:
“…the Lord God sent him (Adam) from the garden of Eden to cultivate the ground from which he was taken”. The “ground” from which Adam and Eve were taken… was the ground of fellowship. The garden of Eden is a place and picture of such fellowship which God still desires and where alone can God’s people find safety and providence in the soon coming storm.
This is God’s promise to His Church in this end time hour: “I will pour out water on him who is thirsty and floods upon the dry ground (of fellowship); I will pour My Spirit upon thy seed, and My blessings upon thine offspring; and they shall spring among the grass like poplars by streams of water”. (Isa. 44:3,4).
Thank you for posting this James. I have been reading through many of Derek Princes’s books and I love his work. They really help prepare us for spiritual warfare. I agree with you, as I’m sure many prophetic voices do, we don’t have much time left to preach the Gospel. I pray God give us the strength, the boldness, and anointing we need to press forward. God bless you and everyone else here!!
Corina I too have spent last 3 weeks I think listening to every you tube teaching by Derek Prince. I had never heard about him but he’s solid, grounded, insightful and I’m glad he put his teaching online
Yes, his teachings have been a blessing.
Please send your email-adress – I think, I have some further informations but I would like to share them more privatly – …if you don´t mind – thank you!
Rick and Graham I am in agreement with you both. Many people think this period we’re in marks the beginning of 7 years of tribulation but that is not what God has revealed to me. I believe we’re now heading towards the last 3.5 years of this earth’s history and 2020 is very likely to be the final year. Patricia Green’s prophecy and Grasshopper219’s comment really resonated with me because I’ve been praying to God for confirmation about what He has shown me concerning the arrival of the two witnesses next year around March 19th as well as the one world religion being set up at that same time…I did a logical calculation of 3.5 years after that which brought me to September 2020. All praise and honor to Jesus for confirmation through various people. Thank you James for putting this information together in one post, God bless you!
A prophecy from Kevin Mirasi seems to confirm that 2020 is the FINAL year when the Lord will come in judgment to destroy the armies assembled at Armageddon.
http://injesuschrististand.blogspot.com/2016/01/confirmation-of-daniels-70th-week-and.html
This means we are now VERY close to entering the 3.5 years of Great Tribulation
The one thing I think of is, where are the two witnesses? They are one key anchor as to the beginning of the Tribulation.
The 2 witnesses will appear soon, as time is short now, Grasshopper.
As Pastor Faircloth indicated, God’s judgment scheduled for Friday 10/28 was delayed through prayers.
http://www.ignitedchurchlife.com/pastors-prophetic-update-on-the-60-day-word/
Thank Him for His mercy, but it will happen VERY soon now. God bless
Grasshopper219 the two witnesses are almost here. I have had revelations of their appearing to be expected in March of next year. I so hope this is truly the case!
I have been watching Pastor Begley and BP Earthwatch and Gill Broussard and they all talk of this 3rd wave of energy due to arrive on Dec 26 – because of planet X (Niburu) entering the solar sytem –thus causing all the earthquakes and yellowstone erupting and so forth –interstinly enough this wiki leaks podesta email release conferms it all and says that a pole shift will happen 3 months later -bring us to march —just my 2 cents (for what its worth) lol !https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/447
Natalie, regarding the two witnesses, here is a recent vision by Ps Daniel Nalliah referencing their imminent release (plus matters about the election).
Still in the balance.
In a vision from the Lord on 10/29, Ps Daniel Nalliah was shown that the power to govern was still in the balance and heavy intercession is needed right now. His vision is as follows:
———————————————————————————————-‘God’s’ Court Room’ Time and Date; Saturday October 29 at 3.40am
In a Vision regarding the US election Ps Daniel was taken into God’s court room – this was a very challenging and confronting experience.
In his own words Ps Daniel describes his vision; he writes:
“On the 29th of Oct 2016 around 3.40am I had an amazing encounter with Jesus in heaven’s court room.
There in my vision, in heaven’s court room was Jesus and 2 other people. Jesus said to me, “these are the 2 witnesses (from Rev 11) who will be released very soon to carry out my will on earth”. At once my attention was drawn to Malachi 4:5-6, where it says, “See I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. (6) He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction ……” Then Jesus said, “For the spirit of Elijah, operating in boldness, reconciliation & restoration is upon my servant Donald Trump – to open the door for America to seek me”.
I asked Jesus as to why he called him servant and not son. He replied, “even though he invited me into his life, he does not know me as his Lord and Saviour; but if my church pray and stand with him he will come into sonship and he will know my power at work’. At that point, I asked Jesus why he chose Trump. His answer was, “he has the boldness like the spirit of Elijah. Have I not said that I will make the rocks cry out if my people stay quiet”?
(Luke 19:40) “I tell you,” he said, “if they (His people) keep quiet, the stones will cry out”.
The State of Florida was then brought to my attention. I asked, “why Florida” and He, the Word said, “Florida is the battle ground for this election”. I feel that there could even be a recount of votes in Florida.
It seemed that in an instant, I saw Hillary Clinton seated with a clairvoyant speaking and casting curses and spells over Trump, the Church and the people of America. Then I saw Trump very distressed, sitting on his bed and praying. He was saying “God I don’t know you, but if you are real expose this woman, for I love my country and want to protect America”.
The Vision continues….. Jesus appeared, coming with a Golden Sceptre in His hands, and on the sceptre were the words, ‘Power to Govern’. He was pointing it towards Trump, but not releasing it. After this I was shocked to see hordes of demons led by the spirit of Jezebel, demanding that the Sceptre be given to Hillary.
At once I knew that Heaven was calling out for intercessors from across the world to go into deep intercession for America and pray for Trump to receive the Golden Sceptre to lead America”. End of vision.
Ps, Dr Daniel Nalliah is the founding President of ‘Catch The Fire Ministries’ Australia (www.catchthefire.com.au ) and Rise Up Australia Party (www.riseupaustraliaparty.com).
Pete absolutely I completely agree with your sentiments. 2020 is shaping up to be the final year of this age as we know it. May the Lord Jesus come and take all that is rightfully His and make all His enemies His footstool!
Natalie, this is not congruent with what is revealed in Revelations.
The two witnesses will prophecy for 1260 days (42 months or 3.5 years), then they are killed, resurrected in 3 1/2 days, the breath of God enters them and they go to heaven. After that, not concurrently, the beast will reign for 42 months. Then the end comes. That’s 7 years total.
So if the two witnesses come in 2017, the end would not be in 2020.
Lee I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my comment, however, I will have to respectfully disagree. I write this because a close reading of the chronology of events in Revelation Chapter 11 and Chapters 15 & 16 reveals that very shortly after the 7th trumpet is blown…which happens very shortly after the two witnesses are resurrected and called back up to heaven, the bible says the kingdoms of this world are handed over to Jesus and His return follows soon after. I do believe the 42 months of the one world system will be concurrent with the two witnesses’ 42 months. I also think it’s important to mention that I do not believe in a 7 year tribulation theory. No where in Revelation does it mention 7 years, but rather 42 months. God bless!
In December 2015, my friends sister, an anointed prophet said a revolution was.coming.in yhe church and persecution is coming…she prophesied over my life then said in the middle.of.the night it will.all.make.sense. Then night I woke.up.to.the voice of.I.believe John Macarter say…The Great Tribulation has.begun in part” till.this.day im.not.sure if.that means 3 years left, 7 years ..???
As soon as I read this prophecy, I immediately thought of Patricia Green’s prophecy. This is very interesting. Its wonderful when the whole body can share knowledge and give each other insight. Thank you James for taking this mans info down, and I have found the comments below about Michael Boldea Jr. and Neville Johnson very interesting….and very well could be confirmation.
My husband and I are waiting on the Psalm 83 war to happen over in Israel, and from there we should be seeing a lot more land open up for many believers to return home.
When Israel gets back much more land, they are going to want to fill up those areas with believers…. and certainly NOT muslims which will allow more Christians to occupy those areas in Jordan.
We have it on our hearts to move to Israel, just not before this war takes place.
I suspect that we may see a dividing of the land of Israel AFTER this new president is announced….but before Obama leaves office. If that happens, we will see Israel fight for that land.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJx2vqeQPeg
So we are right in that time frame when we could see the disasters come to this nation for dividing the land…. and as a result, Israel fights back which causes even greater assaults on Christians and Jews, forcing them back.
I think we will see MILLIONS return home to Israel.
While we know that many prophecies have spoken about safe zones in the United States, Israel, in the mountains is another safe zone for the days ahead.
Some people may ask… how do we get there? I don;t know the answers…. but what I would like to see happen is more of the body of Christ start planning these things out, and working together.
I believe many people are being lead by the Lord to start moving to certain areas of the country, and I believe what we should be doing is start getting email addresses, and names and phone numbers of people who we want to stay in touch with.
We are starting to move into those times where things will start changing.
God will be with us every step of the way. Fear is not from the Lord…. but I do believe that God is preparing His people to start leading. He is giving them new ideas about how to get through what is ahead. Certainly these prophecies all work together.
God bless you James Bailey for keeping up with these prophecies… It happens to be my interest as well.
We have such great people in the comments who are also putting the pieces together. Its not one person…but a collective body of Christ working together that I get excited about.
Shabbat Shalom , and lots of love! Meranda
Meranda – Wow my family is right there with you. We have studied the Second Exodus quite a bit and while we have already left the US, we still believe this may have been an intermediary move, before the lost sheep of the House of Israel are regathered and united with Judah in Israel. There are so many people like us now, where Believers are more and more keenly aware and learning of the end times gathering of His people. The timing is not clear to me, but I hope we do not have to wait until the battle of Armageddon and the onset of the Millennium for the regathering to come to pass.
“Arise, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.”
Hosea 1:10–11.
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, “You are not my people,” there it shall be said unto them, “You are the sons of the living El [God].” Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint [or make, set, ordain, establish] themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.
It is a very good thing to study what happened in old Egypt, but please do not move to old Jerusalem expecting to be at ground zero for the coming New Jerusalem. Unless the Lord moves you there for some other reason, you will be very disappointed to discover there will be no New City at that old location. Go to prophecies.org and read all of Book 12 for more revelation on the New Thing He has already started… rick/AK
Hi Mem! I have now made the connection of you to your wife! ?. One interesting thing that I would like to share with both you & Meranda is that I reached out via email to Gil Broussard. He is closely following & mapping out Planet X’s return. I asked about The impact of Planet X on South America. He believes most of South America will receive the brunt of the meteorites as will The U,S. He shared that he believes the safest place for people to be above ground when Planet X returns is Jerusaleum. I was grateful he took the time to respond.
Yes! Gil Broussard….
http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/timeline-for-planet-x-the-findings-of-gill-broussard
A few people have told us about Gil, and to look into his findings. We have had a lot of emails about planet x, or 7x, and in particular people have said Gil’s work is really eye opening and the best out there. I hope to investigate it myself.
Meranda
Hi Expat Gal – Yes, we are quite familiar with Gil’s work and I respect him very much. A lot of what he says is very fascinating. I have listened to just about every interview he has done as well as Bob Fletcher who is fascinating in his own right, but who is in close contact with Gil and agrees with him on many points so they have a very similar interview X/7x narrative.
I actually skyped a bit with Gil over his assertions about North/South America. : ) Showed him some snapshots that show alternative possibilities of which third of the earth (assuming a contiguous third of the earth which I don’t take for granted as he does) could also fit. For instance, it could also be North America, Australia, Most of China, Half of Russia, and Japan that is the third that is hit. The rest of the earth on the dark side would be safe, which would be South America, Europe, Africa, Middle East, and India. However, he disagrees this is a possibility, because he believes Christ will take the Believers gathered in Jerusalem at Mt Zion to the place of refuge at Midnight (or as Gil’s says “Mid of night”) Jerusalem time. He also referenced this as “The Greater Exodus” which I think is synonymous with the “Second Exodus”, but I do not believe the Second/Greater Exodus is the same event as those that are taken “into the wilderness” for 42 months at the Passover as Gil teaches that Rev 12 speaks of here:
(Revelation 12:14-17).
But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.
If you use a day/night earth simulator you can see which side of the earth is facing the sun when the opposite half is not. So if you put Jerusalem at Midnight local time it has North and South America facing the sun. He concludes that since that is roughly a third of the land mass of earth and he thinks that Planet 7x’s debris field will hit that side of the earth facing the sun on its ingress, etc.
I really like his work and agree with quite a bit of it, but there are a few things I disagree with. For one, his position on the Moon. No pun intended, he has said in more than one interview that the Moon is an artificial object that was “towed” into position only in the last few thousand years and that the Moon is hollow.
That is a tough one for me to swallow, because it says in Genesis that God created the Moon just like the Sun and put them in position, before Man was even created. So I tend to go with the Genesis account on that and am a little concerned he would ignore what Genesis teaches about the Moon, but that wasn’t something I brought up with him. I have also not heard any Christian interviewer challenge him on the origin of the Moon when he has brought this up
So back to the debris field of 7x, I am not convinced his interpretation is 100% solid. For one, I think it is at least possible that the earth will not necessarily stop spinning for 12 hours and the debris field may cover a much more dynamic and non-contiguous third of the earth’s land mass. I believe if God is directing this judgement every rock that falls will be guided by Him and I tend to think it is going to hit the third of the earth whose land has been poisoned with the shedding of innocent blood and where rampant immorality is legislated and cries out to God for justice to be done and I don’t think any constraints whether it be the whole side facing the sun or not or the rotation or lack of rotation of the earth, etc will stop those rocks of justice from hitting their divinely ordained targets. Gil is very convinced of his position and I am certainly no amateur astronomer and as I said I greatly respect him and his research, but I think there is some wiggle room in a few of his assertions.
All that being said, I looked seriously at taking a trip to Jerusalem for Passover this last year…lol. We totally understand about the three Chag/Pilgrimage Feasts, that in the Bible expected people to make pilgrimage to Jerusalem three times a year. As Gil says, those that are keeping these Feasts will automatically find themselves where they need to be to “meet the Bridegroom at mid of night to be taken to the wilderness for the worst 42 months”. My family would very much like to go to Jerusalem, even if its just for a visit, but it is not cheap to try to spend 30-90 days there, living in hotels, etc, while maintaining our expat residence/stuff/visa in our current location. So I have tried to play it by ear or should I say “eye”. As Gil has said, watch the sky, if a new red star shows up several months prior to a Passover and it gets bigger and bigger each night…we just might find ourselves taking an extended vacation to Jerusalem for Pesach ; )
One benefit to living out in the country down here where we are, the sky at night is stunning. It’s like going to the planetarium without the cost of admission. I am trying to become familiar with the star field down here so I can more easily identify if 7x shows up. Maybe it won’t show up, maybe it will. Still I am watching.
There is so much information/revelation out there, so many voices. It doesn’t seem like anyone has it 100% correct, but some have a lot more correct than others. So we watch and pray and try to connect the dots and discover God’s truth and plan for our families.
Mem, If it is top secret I do not need to know but I’m curious where you are located. I’m in Philippines at least half the year but have that sense I need to move soon so Im curious where other believers are gathering.
Hey Expat Guy – contact us here: https://z3news.com/w/coming-depopulation-earth/#comment-74267
Would be nice to chat. We try to use as much discretion as possible
EXPAT GUY Are Americans having a problem being in the Philippines now that the government is breaking with the US government?
Marie not yet. not with govt anyway, I’ve encountered a few Pinoy who carry a chip on their shoulder in resenting Americans who are emboldened to be meaner to Americans but in general that is the minority, most Pinoy are sweet people.
I do find it concerning Duterte tells Obama to go to hell and US businessmen to get out of the country, then goes to Japan to welcome the Japanese who invaded, tortured, raped the people here 70 years ago. I’m no Obama fan and Americans I’m sure have made mistakes here but Americans via tax payers probably have given hundreds of billions to Philippines over the years and American Christians tens of millions. American mothers have given their sons to protect and shed their blood for this country. My father/uncles fought in WWII so I grew up around that generation and have seen first hand emotional and physical scars of my parents friend who was in Bataan death march.
And what did USA get for their sacrifices for the Philippines? nothing but and endless list of expenses and problems. I hope to leave soon and I can no longer recommend this country for visit, retirement or more unless God leads you. If Chinese want to take on this burden they don’t have a clue the problems and responsibilities that will be thrust on them and they probably wont be half as benevolent as the Americans were.
expat guy, i tell you what. The very reason why there has been American military presence in Phillipines is because there is a mountain full of gold and silver in an island of Papua of Indonesia. Common people like yourself think that America has given so much to that poor Phillipines, but it is because people like you have been lied and used by the elites such as Freeport and American government. I tell you, Freeport controls that whole big mountain and has taken the benefits from Papua island for more than 40 years without even caring the native tribes there. This is how the elites have taken advantages from common people and lied to them. And this is the reason why there has been American military presence in those areas. Once again, a whole big mountain full of gold and silver has been colonialized by American company and elite for decades. And only extremely small portion of profit has been given back to the Indonesian government and the native in the island of Papua.
I don’t understand your point. Both papua new guinea and Indonesia are separate countries from Philippines. What does Philippines got to with them? Is it because of proximity?
Mem…
You have already moved….so you know the process of moving to another country….so I would imagine when it comes time to move again, it will be easier to go forward. I had been seeing the numbers 11:11, and 10 for it seems like two years. I suspect it has to do with Hosea 1:10-11 Feel free to add my email address to your contacts. You can find it here. http://whygodreallyexists.com/email-meranda
Meranda
Meranda, i agree with you, the coming church will be the community type, living together in a community in places that God has shown to them. just wonder why you choose Israel as the place ? how do i contact you ?
We know that in the scriptures the mountains of Israel are mentioned as a safe place….
So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. — Matthew 24:15-16
We really do not know how to proceed either. Moving to another country is a very big step.
We got into contact with a gentleman (Scott McHugh) who is working with the local and gvt authorities over in Jordan about building homes and condos. It would be a mult-million dollar project. He said the gvt of Jordan is expecting MILLIONS to come over. He just hasn’t secured enough funding. He is going to be writing more about it in the coming months.
http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/tyranny-delayed-a-window-opening-for-christians-to-finish-our-most-critical-work-scott-mchugh
I am sure as more interest grows, the jobs will expand over there, where we will need builders, plumbers, teachers and every sort of job as people settle in.
It would be nice to gather up people who are interested in going and starting a group on yahoo groups, or facebook groups, or even an email thread of some sort where we can stay in contact, and navigate the process.
Here is my email
Here is my contact info… http://whygodreallyexists.com/email-meranda
Meranda
We also are looking to Israel as our home. Not sure how to procede.. can we share contact information? Mine is catherineelaine77@gmail.com
Thank you.
I just wrote you Cathy by email. Here is my email. http://whygodreallyexists.com/email-meranda
I seem to recall a prophecy here on Z3 that either hinted at or declared a Russian invasion in April, but did not give a year. Perhaps the prophecy in this article means severe trials until war happens in April 2020, after Passover?
Pray over this, and if anyone has insight, please let me know.
I saw America invaded during football season, which fits with others seeing it happening during the Christmas holidays. I don’t recall anyone seeing it happening in April.
John Paul Jackson’s prophetic headlines alluded to this.
rick wiles also seems to imply holiday season, seeing America burn so he gets anxious every thanksgiving, or football season.
I wonder if he has an actual plan to exit. I guess he figures he has many years left based on another word he received about having his new ministry platform done by a certain year in the future
I have greatest respect for rick wiles, I’m a former airborne Ranger, 10 year army veteran, but that guy has more courage than Ive seen in my life. Snowden and Assange have courage too but they are in hiding and have earthly protection. Rick is taking on powers that be not from Russia or Ecuador embassy but Vero beach and I salute his courage and pray for his protection daily.
I think, however,Rick is a post triber, nothing wrong with that but it does expand one’s timeline as he plans to go through tribulation I think. On radio he announced God gave him till 2029 to complete flowing streams
Jesus was right, obviously, when He said “5 years”. You will not want to be here on earth after this time period, unless you are part of that army moving in the earth with a supernatural body. This is the beginning point of the last half of the tribulation during which time the Wrath of God will be poured out on the rebellious, the evil & wicked ones. If you haven’t been called to the Wedding Feast by this time (20/20) the next step is not so graceful… rick
I agree with you rick
Are you talking about the 144,000? They are raptured midtribulation. I was at a prophecy conference years ago where two people testifies they would be changed in a twinkling of an eye in the rapture and be back on earth again in their supernatural bodies. Another Messianic Jew told me the same thing more recently.
You’re absolutely right. The Army of God will be empowered to come back after the Wedding Celebration, and are the only ones empowered to be in the world for the last half of the Trib, for the Lord will continue to save some of the evil and rebellious ones too, in fact He is doing that now. You can read more about that at prophecies.org in Bk 12. rick/AK
Hey Rick;
I would like to share with you some insight the LORD gave me concerning the time of tribulation. It is NOT the wrath of God; and in fact CANNOT be the ‘wrath of God’ or the words of our Savior Jesus Christ would be untrue.
Jesus said this tribulation, whatever it is, would be the worst expression of it that ever had been or ever will be. To say this tribulation is the wrath of God is saying it will be worse that the wrath which destroyed the entire world save eight souls. Sorry no fit. And it would have to exceed not only the wrath Jesus will pour out at his Return, but also the wrath of Hell and the eternal lake of fire. Again no fit.
Jesus pours out the wrath of God at his Return (the seven bowls). What takes place up until that time is divine Judgment with a call to repentance. The wrath of God offers no such call to repentance. It is purely punitive, I explain this in greater detail here:
https://pbenson.me/2016/08/23/is-the-great-tribulation-gods-wrath/
Blessings;
Paul Benson
P.S. There will be NO pre-trib rapture. That is a man-made hoax.
We are told to watch for Jesus return so that we may be taken out of the Tribulation so all those not watching will have no rapture and will remain on the Earth, the 5 foolish virgins.
There are two 7 year Tribulation periods that follow one another first is the 7 year Tribulation of the Christians followed by the 7 year Tribulation of Israel.
At the end of the 7 year Tribulation of the Christians is a rapture and also at the end of the 7 year Tribulation of Israel there is a rapture.
In the middle of the 7 year Tribulation of Israel there is a rapture of the 144000 male witnesses from Israel that were sealed at the rapture of the Christians as well as the rapture of the 2 witnesses (Elijah and Enoch).
I believe what the strongest opinion of a Christian is that is what will happen to him whether it is pre trib, Mid trib, post trib or to be a martyr.
I only believed in one Trib like everyone else, but the proof in the Bible is there are another 3 to go, the first was when Jesus took his people from Hades and the graves were opened up and people were walking around who Jesus took to Heaven, the firstfruit of the Christians and the 144000 witnesses from Israel are the firstfruit of Israel.
Jacob and his 4 wives were symbolic of the 4 raptures, the main wives he worked 7 years for each and the servant wives helped the main wives.
Also we see this in the grain offering, the Barley that ripened first was offered to God and then the rest of the Barley was taken and after that a similar process was done for the wheat.
Martus
Michael Boldea has a weekly show on blogtalk radio. You can e-mail questions to him and he will answer them on his show. Maybe you could run your theory by Michael and get his response? I say that because he seems to be someone you trust.
I used to be pre-trib 35 years ago. One thing (and you might try this) that really helped me was to stop looking at the rapture part (our brief journey from earth to the clouds) and to look what is really important here; the resurrection part. This is the mystery (resurrection not rapture) Paul spoke of in 1 Cor. 15; and the mystery which finds its fulfillment in the Second Coming; at which time John wrote the mystery of God is finished (Rev. 10:7)
You have some interesting theories, but the Scripture plainly teaches that the resurrection of all who belong to Christ happens at his Coming. One event at one time. There is only one resurrection of the Just and it takes place at the Second Coming.
May the LORD bless your studies;
Paul Benson
The intriguing thing about the 10 virgins parable is that there is something that both wise and foolish engage in! See v.5!
So true – They all became drowsy and fell asleep. Reminds me of the disciples in the the Garden of Gethsemane
Is there no better example for us to aspire towards than a drowsy but well prepared and wise virgin? : )
They only became drowsy…when the Bridegroom was delayed.
Delayed is an interesting way to describe this. When someone is delayed, they wish to be there at a certain time, but they are delayed, held back, slowed down. Other translations say “tarried”.
He was announced as coming at midnight
This is such a fascinating parable. So much more here than passes muster in mainstream sermons/bible study
Thanks for the response. One other fact most Christians fail to note is that not all believers or not all of the Church is necessarily the “Bride of Christ”.
There are no scripture references in your summary and for good reason. There are no scriptures to support your ideas of two separate seven year tribulations or four separate raptures. This sounds like confusion to me.
Tuesday, June 21, 2016. “…Would that you cared, but you do not and now I AM has no choice but to deal harshly with your sins. My heart is grieved for the lost. My wrath is being poured out on this wicked and perverse generation…” You may see this Word at- http://awatchmanonthewall.blogspot.com/2016_06_01_archive.html rick
Correction to what I wrote above- Mercy ALWAYS prevails over judgment! I hate to see people set dates because the Lord rarely does, as both prayer & the enemy can change things, including the choices of all the Saints. I was referring to the second half of the trib, when no one will want to be here. God always reserves the right to extend peace over His people & the land for any period of time. Remember Nineveh. Only He knows the day of the end… rick
The FBI has repoened the case regarding Hillary’s emails. One would have to assume that she is not going to win the election now. Has America been granted a reprieve by the Lord? Joanie Stahl shared earlier this year that Trump has already been chosen. See link https://z3news.com/w/trump-chosen-two-years-ago/. Others have drawn a similar conclusion that TPTB will allow things to collapse, blame conservatives and capitalism, and then usher in their NWO. If we are given until 2020, may we all seek the Father and hear the voice of the Good Shepherd as to where He is leading each of us.
Think g of Pastor Faircloth National Heart Attack- Are we still in that 60 day window?
Could this be the event with Hilary? Any thoughts here, maybe from Pastor Faircloth even.
That ended yesterday or today, I believe.
Javita
I think pastor Faircloth has integrity to answer himself. I remember years ago prophet Bob jones prophesied a California earthquate would follow a major Japan earthquake and he was asked if Kobe earthquake which had just happened at the time was what he had seen, and he responded no, he saw something bigger, more major.
Personally I do not think HRC email investigation being reopened would be considered an economic heart attack. As a nation USA has gone through watergate, Bill clinton impeachment, JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations, wars, 911 and scandals much bigger than news that a presidential candidate is being investigated.
Because I’m in Asia I don’t know time it was announced but if it was Friday–market kind of yawned at news, as Dow only lost 8 points, no currency pair commodity nor bond changed even 1%. I guess effect could be delayed but I do not see how a reopened investigation on HRC is equivalent to a national economic heart attack.
But, like you i’d be interested in an update from pastor Faircloth though he did say Oct 30th was last day of 3 week update so we still have tomorrow and we may be ahead of ourselves for inquiring.
Pastor Faircloth wrote an update on this. You can go to his website.
Re: Hillary–I wonder if this is going to lead to BO’s excuse to “suspend” or “delay” the election…
Here is the link to his update:
http://www.ignitedchurchlife.com/pastors-prophetic-update-on-the-60-day-word/
I would to God we did have these 3 or more years left…..2017 is nigh upon us, So if this is of the Lord and it very likely is, then really, we have only 3 and 1/2 years of any meaningful living……yet we’ll still have great tribulation here in America…..but it sounds that at that time (2020)….all the world will be engulfed.
Draw Nigh unto God as often as possible.
James, your dream coincides with the timing of your posting of Seven Years of Harvest Are Coming by Neville Johnson. According to what he heard from Joseph, it would be 2020-2021 when it would be difficult to buy or sell. Do you think your dream was confirmation of what Neville heard?
Thanks Tina. I had forgotten about that one, but you are right. It is another confirmation. In 2014, Neville Johnson was told we have seven more years before it becomes difficult to buy or sell, which would be 2021. That is the same year I heard in my dream, what the woman called “next Wednesday.”
Here is Neville Johnson’s quote from that post:
“When I was praying on the day of atonement this year (recorded in 2014) I had a visitation from Joseph. He spoke to me about a number of things. He spoke to me about the coming seven years. He told me that there would be seven years left before it would become difficult to buy or sell or do any of those things.”
See the whole post here: https://z3news.com/w/neville-johnson-years-harvest-coming/
Yes–Praise God ! This is the time to get in our assigned places, with
ears to hear the Shepherd’s calls. Let’s keep our wicks trimmed and
our lamps full !
Neville spoke- we will see the greatest harvest the world has ever seen
in the midst of difficult times trouble and great shaking.
My question is what Neville said during the Lancaster Ca conference
on the three days of darkness —about the Bride transforming into light
and having supernatural protection[ only kind ! ] and abilities to translate
as spoken of here on Z3 —? Not that we should be concerned –if we
walk in daily cleansing of His spirit —what are your thoughts on this ?
Thank you James and also Tina !
Agree the Lords return will occur 2030 or so—–but sooo much happening
before His feet touch the Mt. of Olives .
Amen on Derek Prince– was blessed by his first wife’s book—Lydia,
story of survival during the I believe 1967 war and how the angels rescued
her and how she protected children. Read it before my trip to Isreal—
don’t know the title—probably out of print .
Ps. 91 protection and love to all !
Another visible conformation would be the two cows with 7 on their heads. One was born on the first day of the Shemitah and the other was written about on the first day of the Shemitah. Which started in Sept. 2014.
Great point Barb. I had forgotten about that one too. Thanks.
Michael Boldea Jr. had a vision of an Eagle(US) being bitten by 3 serpents and each serpents bite was more severe until the US eagle was killed.
The first serpent’s bite was 9-11
The second serpent’s bite seems to be New York city according to Revelation where God’s people are told to get out of there when their is a queen in charge.
The 3rd serpent’s killed the Eagle!
Good work! Thanks for investing the time and resources that goes into this ministry
Obedience during this window of time is imperative! The Holy Spirit will position and align us according to God’s perfect will. We must respond immediately when prompted by the Holy Spirit to say and do exactly what the Father desires just as Jesus did. I believe during this time we will see an awakening and a move of God much like Azusa Street but much more widespread yielding an even greater harvest. The Spirit and the bride say come!!
Yes! The greatest revival period and Harvest is just in front of us! While we are in a shaking period like never before, Holy Spirit will be releasing the “latter rain” which is going to be so much greater than the former!