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The Timing of the Rapture is Revealed by the Great Multitude

June 29, 2015 4:07 AM By James Bailey 55 Comments

worshipThe timing of the rapture is revealed by the great multitude of people whom John saw standing before the throne of God in heaven.

John described a multitude so great in number that no one could count them. That’s a lot of people! They came from every nation, tribe, people, and tongue. All of them were wearing white robes and worshiping God. (Revelation 7:9-10).

The elder explained to John these people have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb (Revelation 7:13-14). So these are believers who received salvation in the name of Jesus Christ and made it to heaven, which brings us to the key question. How did they get to heaven?

We are not told directly, but we are given enough other information to prove they are taken in the rapture.

The first clue is in what the elder said to John, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation” (Revelation 7:14). So to identify when this multitude went to heaven we must identify the timing of the great tribulation. The great tribulation occurs during a specific period of time that can be clearly identified in scriptures. These people had to be living on the earth during that time and also had to leave the earth during that time.

Jesus talked about the great tribulation and used the exact same words the elder used, which in the original Greek language is megas thlipsis, which literally means ‘great pressure’, but is most often translated as ‘great tribulation’. Jesus identified three specific time periods coming in the time of the end that included birth pangs, tribulation, and great tribulation. For each period, he identified the specific events that would happen. A brief look at each period helps us identify the timing of the great tribulation.

Birth Pangs

The birth pangs include false messiahs, wars, rumors of wars, famines, and earthquakes (Matthew 24:4-8). John saw these same events released by the breaking of the first four seals of the book of life (Revelation 6:1-8). We are not told how long the birth pangs  last.

Tribulation

During the tribulation pressure is applied to believers as they are hated by all nations and put to death. Jesus said many will fall away and betray one another, many false prophets will arise, lawlessness will increase, most people’s love will grow cold, and the good news of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world (Matthew 24:9-14). John saw these same events released by the breaking of the fifth seal of the book of life (Revelation 6:9-11).

During this period, the son of perdition is given authority to rule the world government, economy, and religion for 42 months (Revelation 13:5). He wages war with the holy people of God, wears them down, overpowers them, and shatters their power for 42 months, which explains why Jesus warned us that many believers would be put to death during this time (Daniel 7:21-25, 12:6-7). This three and a half year reign of the antichrist occurs during the first half of the final seven-year period, beginning when he makes a covenant with Israel and other nations and ending when he breaks that covenant (Daniel 9:27).

Great Tribulation

When the son of perdition breaks his covenant with Israel he enters the temple and takes his seat, establishing his throne there, and acting like he is God (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4). That abominable act is the catalyst that plunges the world into great tribulation as the wrath of God is released upon him and his followers. Immediately after the tribulation, the first major event that happens during the great tribulation is a series of geophysical calamities that include the sun and moon turning dark, the stars falling from the sky, and the powers of heaven are shaken. John saw these same events released by the breaking of the sixth seal of the book of life (Revelation 6:12-17). Then the sign of the Son of Man appears in the sky as his angels gather together his people, rescuing them from the wrath to come, which is called the rapture (Matthew 24:29-31).

After God’s people are out of harm’s way, the great tribulation continues with seven angels blowing seven trumpets releasing the wrath of God. The wrath continues to be poured out for at least five months because we are told the fifth trumpet releases locusts to harm the people of the earth for five months (Revelation 9:5). The locusts provide further evidence the great multitude is no longer on the earth because the locusts are instructed to harm everyone who does not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

They were told not to hurt the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but only the men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. And they were not permitted to kill anyone, but to torment for five months; and their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it stings a man. (Revelation 9:4-5)

We already know the seal is only given to the 144,000 bond servants who come from the twelve tribes of Israel (Revelation 7:4-8). These bond servants need the seal because they are left on the earth during the great tribulation. The Lord has assignments for them during the great tribulation. The seal provides them with supernatural protection.

We know the great multitude was not sealed with the seal because it is only given to a specific number, 144,000, but the number of the great multitude was so great no one could count them (Revelation 7:9). Therefore they are a separate group from the 144,000 bond servants whose number is counted and revealed.

So if the great multitude was still on earth without the seal during the release of the locusts then the wrath of God would be poured out on them as they would be harmed by the locusts because they are not protected by the seal. God cannot pour out his wrath on his people because he has already promised to deliver us from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 1:10). Since God never breaks his promises we can conclude he has a different plan for protecting the great multitude. His plan is to remove them from the earth because everyone left on earth without the seal will be harmed by the locusts. So we see the reason why the great multitude is not sealed with the seal is because God removes them from the earth before the wrath of God is poured out, which is released by the seven trumpets.

This explains why we see the great multitude standing before the throne of God in heaven (Revelation 7:9-17). They were taken out of the earth just as Jesus said they would.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)

He will send forth his angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other (Matthew 24:31).

The trumpet announcing the rapture is not the same as the seven trumpets that release the wrath of God. The rapture trumpet is the last trumpet of the 6,000 year dominion of man on the earth. Then the day of the Lord begins, which is the 1,000 year reign of the Lord on the earth, the seventh day, the day of rest.

The Lord Jesus returns to the earth during the great tribulation waging war against the armies of the beast (Revelation 14:1). The two beasts are captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20-21). The great tribulation ends within 42 months because Jesus told us those days (the days of the final seven-year period) would be cut short for the sake of his chosen people (Matthew 24:22).

For more details on the differences between the tribulation and great tribulation, see my previous post: Twelve Differences Between the Tribulation and Great Tribulation.

The Multitude is the Remnant

So the multitude John saw is the remnant of believers who survived the terrible events during the birth pangs, tribulation, and the first part of the great tribulation.

These people endured the rise of a false messiah, wars, famines, and earthquakes. They saw the world transformed from independent, sovereign nations into a one-world government headed by an evil beast, the son of perdition. They saw the formation of a one-world religion headed by a second beast, who required everyone to worship the image of the first beast.

For 42 months the beast ruled over them, but they refused to take his mark on their right hand or on their forehead. Instead, they hid themselves from government authorities who hunted for them day and night seeking to kill them, and also from neighbors, friends, and even family members who sought to betray them. They became outcasts, refugees, homeless, hunted, and killed like wild animals. Without the mark they were not allowed to buy or sell anything (Revelation 13:15-18). The Lord provided for them supernaturally, but they also endured times of hunger and thirst.

They were hated by the whole world, constantly being wrongly accused, mistreated, misunderstood, slandered, and even tortured. Many who tried to escape were captured and beheaded (Revelation 6:9-11, 20:4). Others gave up hope and abandoned the faith for fear of what would happen to them. (Matthew 24:10, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 1 Timothy 4:1-3). Some of those who fell away even turned against the other believers, betraying them and turning them into the authorities (Matthew 24:10).

Yet, in every nation and every language there was a remnant that stood firm, believing more in what they could not see than what they could see. These persevered in faith and grew stronger in spirit. They overcame the power of the evil one because of the blood of the lamb, and because of the word of their testimony, and because they had no regard for their own lives even when faced with death (Revelation 12:11). They had many opportunities to return to the world system, but they chose not to because they desired a better place, a heavenly place. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them (Hebrews 11:16).

The people of this world did not recognize them or value them, but from heaven’s perspective they were heroes of the faith and mighty warriors in the great end-time battle. The saints of old watched and applauded their acts of courage every step of the way (Hebrews 12:1).

The elder acknowledged their great trials when he told John how they had endured hunger, thirst, and exposure to the heat. He also acknowledged the many tears they had shed (Revelation 7:16-17).

So now we have identified who the multitude is and where they came from, but we still need to identify how the got to heaven.

How did they get to heaven?

There are only so many ways to leave earth and get to heaven. We either have to die or get raptured. There are also only so many ways such a large multitude could have died within such a short time, and we can eliminate each of them to prove this multitude never died.

1. They Were Not Killed for their Faith

The elder acknowledged the trials they endured, but never said any of them were put to death for their faith. Hunger, thirst, and exposure to heat are far less costly ordeals than being put to death. So why would he acknowledge those smaller trials without mentioning the greatest test of faith? It would be disrespectful to acknowledge the smaller sacrifices without also acknowledging the ultimate sacrifice, unless there was no ultimate sacrifice.

Not only would it be disrespectful, it would be inconsistent with other scriptures, which attribute great honor to those who lay down their lives.

  • Jesus said there is no greater love than to lay down our life for others (John 15:13).
  • Peter was told he would glorify God by being put to death against his will (John 21:18-19).
  • Stephen was honored and recognized for laying down his life by being stoned to death (Acts 7:59)
  • Many Old Testament saints are honored for being stoned, sawn in two, and put to death with the sword (Hebrews 11:37)
  • Many believers who are put to death during the tribulation are honored for their sacrifice (Revelation 6:9-11). These could not be the same people John saw standing before the throne because these died during the tribulation while the multitude that John saw survived the tribulation and left the earth during the great tribulation.

So for these reasons, I believe none of them were killed for their faith. This is the remnant who survived when many others were killed. They endured many hardships, but escaped with their lives.

2. They Did Not Die from Natural Causes

John revealed this great multitude was too large to count and came from every nation and tribe and tongue. Such a large number could not possibly have all died from natural causes because they all left the earth during a very small window of time, less than 42 months. It would be unprecedented for that many people to die of natural causes in that short amount of time. So I don’t believe they died from natural causes.

3. They Were Not Killed By the Wrath of God

Another possible explanation is they were killed by the cataclysmic events resulting from the wrath of God being poured out during the great tribulation. However, God has promised to deliver his people from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 1:10 and 5:9). He would have to break his promise to kill his own people through calamities caused by his wrath. His wrath is not intended for his people, but for those who refused to repent.

Not only did God promise to deliver his people from the wrath to come, but the book of Revelation reveals specific actions he takes to protect his people (shown below). So God’s actions are consistent with his promise to protect his people. So we can conclude he would act consistently with this great multitude and would protect them from the wrath.

So if they were not killed for their faith, did not die from natural causes, and was not killed by the wrath of God, then how did they get to heaven? My conclusion is they were still alive on the earth when they were taken to heaven in the rapture.

Looking at the Big Picture:

Rather than just reading one passage about the multitude in Revelation 7:9-17 we need to step back and look at the big picture to see how this passage fits into the context of the scriptures that come before and afterwards. The big picture reveals the placement of this passage coincides perfectly with the timing of the rapture.

In Revelation 6 John listed the events of the birth pangs, tribulation, and the initial events of the great tribulation. Then in the first verses of Revelation 7, the four angels are seen holding back the four winds of the earth. These four winds are connected with stirring up the great sea, which is where the four end-time beasts come from (Daniel 7:2-3). So the angels in Revelation 7 are commanded to hold back the winds for a little while longer until two groups of God’s servants are protected from harm.

The first group is the bondservants of God, which are the 144,000 from each of the twelve tribes of Israel. They are sealed with a seal of protection on their forehead. The second group is the great multitude that John saw. They instantly appear in heaven faster than we can blink our eyes. They are the raptured believers, the evidence of God’s faithfulness to do what he promised, delivering his people from the wrath to come.

After that, the seventh seal of the book of life is broken in Revelation 8. Then there is silence in heaven for about a half an hour. Then seven angels are given seven trumpets to administer the outpouring of the wrath of God. It is now safe for the wrath to be poured out because God’s people are protected. The 144,000 are still in the earth, protected by the seal of God. The multitude is far from harm standing before the throne in heaven. The wrath of God is then poured out, beginning in Revelation 8:7 and continuing on through Revelation 20:3.

So the big picture reveals the multitude appears in the scriptures precisely when the rapture happens. The sequence of events is not a coincidence or a mistake. The location of this passage provides another confirmation that this multitude left the earth in the rapture.

The Multitude Avoids Death

The Apostle Paul revealed there would be a remnant of end-time believers who would be caught up to heaven without experiencing death, as described in the following two passages:

Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. (1 Corinthians 15:51-53)

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thessalonians 4:15-18)

So the multitude John saw standing in heaven are the same people Paul referred to as being alive and remaining until the coming of the Lord. The dead in Christ are raised up first, then in the twinkling of an eye the last trumpet of the church age is sounded and believers from every nation are delivered from the great tribulation as they are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. Their number is so great they fill the sky from one end to the other (Matthew 24:31). So shall they always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words!

In conclusion, the multitude that John saw standing before the throne reveals the rapture happens immediately after the tribulation, shortly after the start of the great tribulation, and just moments before the wrath of God is released.

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James Bailey

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Thank you James for all you do. I have a couple questions. You said that only the 144K have the seal. In Eph 1:13 and 4:30 it talks about being sealed with the Holy Spirit/Ghost. The word sealed is G4972 in Strongs, is the same word used in Rev in reference to the sealing of the 144K. Is this a different kind of sealing even though the same word is used? Also, why are the 144K left and we are taken? What is their purpose? Thanks again!

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July 8, 2015 6:33 AM
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That is a great question! The seal in Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30 marks us with the promised Holy Spirit for the day of redemption. This is an invisible seal, which is given to all believers as evidence that our lives have been redeemed by his atoning blood. In this case the seal is the promised Holy Spirit given as a deposit, a seal, which marks us as his. No unbelievers have been given the Holy Spirit, but he has been given to all believers. The Holy Spirit is not visible because he is a spirit living inside us, in our heart, which is our spirit man. The seal in Revelation 7:3-4 is not for all believers, but only for a specific group of 144,000 bond servants who have kept themselves sexually pure and follow the Lamb wherever he goes. This seal is not the promised Holy Spirit deposited in their heart, although all of them also have that, but it is the name of the Lord written on their forehead where it is visible for all to see. The purpose for the seal is to protect them from the wrath of God, which is poured out during the great tribulation. This is an elite group of bond servants who have been chosen by God to serve in his earthly army during the great tribulation. Their assignment is to fight for Israel’s deliverance, which is why they are all physical descendants of Abraham and why we see them standing on Mount Zion with the Lord Jesus. “Then I looked, and there was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion! And with him were one hundred forty-four thousand who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven like the sound of many waters… Read more »

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July 8, 2015 9:15 AM
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Thank you James for clarifying that for me. Makes sense now! Not sure how I overlooked Rev. 7:1-8 explains it pretty clearly! Thanks for all your hard work and knowledge sharing! God bless.

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July 7, 2015 12:55 PM
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Your question helped me realize the point needed to be clarified in this post so I have updated the post. I think it is much clearer now so thanks for asking!

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July 7, 2015 3:41 PM
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I can go with that, James. I thought at one time it would only happen at the end of the Great Tribulation, but you’ve convinced me.
Thanks!

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June 29, 2015 8:30 PM
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Glad to hear the Tweetsie Train is on the right track now!

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June 30, 2015 12:42 AM
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It sounds to me like the rapture occurs at or very close to the “Day of The Lord”.
And, that the great tribulation begins after the rapture, and after the Lord appears to all people on earth. “Then shall be great tribulation…..”

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September 3, 2019 11:20 AM
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I agree, but the scriptures reveal a difference between the tribulation and great tribulation, as shown in this post:

https://z3news.com/w/tribulation-vs-great-tribulation/

For more details, please see the posts in our Great Tribulation category.

https://z3news.com//w/category/prophecies/great-tribulation/

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Armstrong’s AI has heat from 1259 forward (excluding our data on the Roman Empire grain prices), reveals that there is a serious risk of famine from 2020 onward. It appears that we may very well enter a 12-year rally into the year 2032. Our Bifurcation Models are reflecting also a gap in time between 2020 and 2031 suggesting a trend appears to last for that period of time.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/agriculture/the-approaching-famine/

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wheat, not heat

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November 21, 2017 8:09 AM
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Once again thank you brother James for the insight,ln your scripture breakdown you quoted the verse which says “the dead in Christ will rise first “what about those who died not believing in God .Will they be resurrected as well to suffer in the tribulations or not?And lastly what about those who died before even hearing about our Lord’s Gospel?

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December 22, 2015 8:54 AM
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In this passage, the dead in Messiah rise first, then believers who are alive are caught up together with them in the clouds.

16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the chief angel, and with God’s shofar. The dead in Messiah will rise first,
17 then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thess 4:16-18)

The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years are over.

Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. (Revelation 20:4-6 NASB)

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December 22, 2015 11:14 AM
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Thank you so much mr James Bailey l couldn’t ask for a more clear and straight forward explanation,May God bless you…..

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December 22, 2015 12:14 PM
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Really? Jesus comes at the last trumpet on a cloud with the voice of the archangel and harvests the faithful for the wedding as the angels gather the wicked to be burned, exactly as all the scriptures describe, and that’s not the Rapture? If you can’t recognize the Rapture when it is plainly described right in front of you, then how is anything else being promoted on this site going to be right? It is all a jumble of truth and error being offered without scriptural discernment. I would have liked to be helpful but to avoid becoming an unwelcome thorn I will depart. I do appreciate your well-meaning efforts to share things with others and your willingness to respond patiently to things you disagree with. But I weep for the blindness and appalling ignorance of American Christians, for the country they have now lost, and for the things they are going to suffer because of it.

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July 28, 2015 6:35 AM
James Bailey
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I have quoted many scriptures to back up my view and you have not been able to disprove one single point that I have made because it is in the Bible. Yet you accuse me of appalling ignorance?

Revelation 14:13 explains what happens in the two verses that follow. It says “Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!” I did not make that up and you cannot explain why it says that.

As I already explained very clearly, the rapture already happened back in Revelation 7. You have not been able to dispute anything I stated because I quoted it all from the scriptures. Yet you hold onto your own ideas anyway. Worst of all you are now so offended by the scriptures, not by me, that you are ranting about appalling ignorance and leaving this site.

I wish we could just discuss the scriptures together as friends and not get upset about any of this. It is very sad to see such behavior.

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July 30, 2015 3:38 AM
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Thank you. Actually, my first statement was that the Rapture occurs in Revelation 14:14-16. ….YBIC

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July 26, 2015 8:09 PM
James Bailey
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Sorry, but you raised a lot of points in your previous comment so it was not possible for me to reply to all of them. Revelation 14:14-16 refers to the fate of those who are left behind. I believe the key to understanding verses 14-16 is found in the previous verse 13, “And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, ‘Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on! Yes, says the Spirit, so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.'” So verses 14-16 are not referring to the rapture, but to the harvest of souls who die during the great tribulation. It will be a very hard time for them, but those who remain faithful unto death will be reaped in the Lord’s harvest. The parable of the ten virgins reveals many will be left behind in the rapture. Only five of the ten are taken when the bridegroom comes. The other five are left behind because they have no oil in their lamps (Matthew 25:1-13).

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July 26, 2015 10:16 PM
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Unfortunately the article above is not correct; although it is well-meaning it succumbs to the errors that saturate the airwaves and are promoted for mammon by the many false babblers today. The King’s Wheat Harvest of the Rapture is in Revelation 14:14-16 just after the 7th Trumpet and just before Armageddon, exactly as described by Jesus and the Apostles and the Prophets. The seven angels pour out the Wrath of God after the Rapture (Revelation 15-16). But these Bowls of Wrath are not the Great Tribulation which is already over and done before Revelation 14. Before the Rapture happens, multitudes of believers will die in the Great Tribulation along with everyone else, not only from persecution and beheading, but from massive natural disasters and famine and disease plus the 6th Trumpet World War that begins shortly before the 7th Trumpet and the Rapture. The Antichrist is in power but not in total power in the Great Tribulation, during either the Seals or the Trumpets. In Revelation you will see there is a Great Whore who rides and dominates the multi-country beast of which Antichrist is one leader among many. The ten-horned beast is England, German-led Europe and Russia joined together just as Daniel shows us. The Antichrist is not so much a political or military leader, he is a “prince” (of “peace”) and is “different” from the other kings (Daniel 7:24). As a False Christ he is a theocratic ruler of a religious kingdom. It is based in Europe and he himself is an ethnic Italian (Daniel 9:26). So he is most likely a Pope who may already be coming to power with his 1 billion followers, either Francis or possibly the next Pope. He will look like a lamb in white and will seek to deceive even the elect… Read more »

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July 24, 2015 2:24 AM
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Sorry it took me so long to reply, but as you stated your comment was very long and covers many points. I cannot possibly address all of your points in this comment. I would need chapters or a whole book to explain each point. I can tell you are confused because you contradict many scriptures. First you stated, “Before the Rapture happens, multitudes of believers will die in the Great Tribulation along with everyone else, not only from persecution and beheading, but from massive natural disasters and famine and disease plus the 6th Trumpet World War that begins shortly before the 7th Trumpet.” That statement contradicts 1 Thessalonians 1:10, which promises God’s people will be rescued from the wrath to come. Getting killed by the wrath of God is not the same as getting delivered from it. Therefore your statement contradicts the promise of God. In addition, Revelation 7:14-17 identifies the trials of the great multitude stating, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them. They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat; for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes.” There is no mention that any of them were killed for any reason, including natural disasters, famines, diseases, wars, or for their faith. Why would the elder fail to mention anything… Read more »

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July 25, 2015 7:10 PM
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After reading through the description of the anti-christ in the book of Daniel it just doesn’t seem to line up with Barack Obama being that person. The anti-christ will I believe rise up out of Europe and he will be the leader of 10 Nations also the end time Church will not be taken up to Heaven during the Great Tribulation but rather out into the wilderness. Rev 12

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July 17, 2015 12:01 AM
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The scriptures never say he comes from Europe. It says he will come from the Grecian kingdom of Alexander the Great, which was divided into four kingdoms, which today would be close to Greece, Turkey, Syria (Assyria), and Egypt. Out of one of these four will come the little horn or future Antichrist (Daniel 8:8-9; 8:23; 7:20- 25 9:27; 11:36-45, 2 Thes. 2:3-12, Rev. 13:1-18, 14:9-11, 15:2-4, 16:13-16, 19:20; 20:4-6). Obama’s ancestry is from Lebanon, which is part of the old Assyrian Empire, which qualifies him to be the King of Assyria (Isaiah 10). After he leaves the United States, as I mentioned in my previous comment, I believe he will rise to power as the little horn in the area once controlled by the Assyrian Empire, which includes Syria, Lebanon, and much of Iraq. Terry Bennett saw the antichrist would complete his rise to power by 2028. If his timing is correct, and I believe it is, then we will see these events unfold over the next 14 years. So we are now closer than we have ever been, but the total fulfillment is still hidden from our view.

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July 18, 2015 3:47 AM
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Hi Bro James. I hope you would comment on the issue of the Woman who was protected in the wilderness for 3.5 years. What is the identity of this Woman? Thanks for the reply.

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December 15, 2015 11:16 PM
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Here is a link to a great teaching on this topic from Revelation 12: http://thewellword.com/multimedia-archive/end-of-days-part-7-of-a-series/

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