Note: This article was originally posted on July 23, 2017, and is being reposted now as another example of how God has repeatedly warned us about Donald Trump’s deceptive schemes.
I would like to share with you a dream that I had regarding the path that America is headed on…
Not too long ago, I had a dream that I was in a car on a road trip. I was in the passenger seat, my son was in the back seat, and Donald Trump was driving.
We were driving on a narrow, winding road through what looked like the Rocky Mountains. It was a clear, sunny day.
I had a large road atlas (remember those?) in my hand, and as time went on, I noticed we were starting to head in the wrong direction. So I looked at Trump and said, “I think we missed our turn, and we’re going the wrong way.”
But Trump insisted we were on the right path. I told him to look at the map so he could see what I was talking about. But Trump became hostile and started yelling at me about what he knew, how he didn’t need a map, and knew where he was going.
As he continued driving, the road began to change, and next thing I knew, we were no longer on a paved road, but now a gravel road full of sharp rocks and thorns. The car began to rock as Trump continued to drive at the same speed as the paved road. I became frightened, thinking the tires were going to blow, and I once again attempted to get Trump to look at the map, but he refused.
We soon came to a four-way stop. Trump picked up a beautifully polished wooden box from under his seat, turned around to the back seat and handed it to my son.
“Open it” he said.
My son proceeded with opening the box; at which another compartment was presented. He opened that one, then another, and another. The polished wooden box seemed to be a puzzle of some sort. Finally, my son reached the center of the box, to only find a small white box inside. Trump insisted that my son open the small white box; so he did.
Inside was a beautiful gold chain with a large gold Star of David hanging from it. My son’s eyes were full of excitement.
“You like that, don’t you?” Trump said.
My son nodded his head.
“You’ve always wanted one of those huh?” Trump asked with enticement in his voice.
My son nodded his head a second time.
Trump then turned to me and said, “See, this is how I’m going to lure them in. I will give them what they’re asking for, and then I’m going to pull the plug.” He then turned around and started driving again.
My heart gripped with fear…
Night was quickly approaching, and I no longer knew where we were. The dream ended with us coming to a dead end, with no lights, and nowhere to turn.
Interpretation:
There are several interpretations of this dream; none of which are positive. As the Body of Christ, we truly need to stay in a constant state of prayer. This is NOT a time to slumber. God has NOT changed His mind, and the end of the age is NOT on pause. As individuals, we need to stay before the Lord and seek Him for instructions, and stop following man. Time is running out.
As with all things, take this to prayer.
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I am relating the news link below to the hope that as in the dream Trump will “pull the plug” which may take some time – it’s a start. We can’t know the pressures and threats he is under.
“President Donald Trump delayed plans to vaccinate his White House team, without explanation, only a short time after a National Security Council spokesman invoked a policy directive to stress the importance of protecting those at the top of government.”
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I will give you a positive interpretation and I pray to God this is correct. The dream is about the road map of pursuing an mRNA vaccine. President Trump is giving the vaccine industry what they want – his seemingly full compliance and support. Then he will pull the plug on the vaccine at the last moment. If this is not what he is doing we are in very serious trouble. See my post today on Vaccines at davidkeas.com
Souxsie Wiles, NZ government’s Covid19 advisor is a 100% shareholder in a company called Lucy Ferrin Ltd….. Flaunting it in our faces.
https://www.businesscheck.co.nz/ltd/9429030595118/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siouxsie_Wiles
I go to the Lord asking and asking to see or hear truth, over and over and over again, because I want the truth.
I believe President Trump was put in as President to be in charge of things going in the opposite direction of Obama to cause division.
Pray for all to see truth, wait on the Lord to hear, feel,see truth not to see in the flesh but in the Spirit
Lord Jesus help us sing the same song.let us have ears to hear and eyes to see,and thank you Abba
Far too many people still see Trump, Biden, Soetoro (sorry, the only people who refer to him as Obama are ones who have taken his side and believe he is who he says), Bush, etc., as “leaders” of the nation. They are not the ones who call the shots. They are nothing more than puppets strategically placed into “power” to manipulate the simple public who have eyes purposely shut on all things biblical and prophetic. Elections are, and always have been, a sham to allow the public to believe they have a say in what happens in their respective countries.
Those who have actually studied the Bible should have, by now, come to the conclusion that the infamous globalists are the one world government. And that out of the one world government will come the Anti-Christ. The Bible clearly tells us that the Anti-Christ is already in the world. The globalists are not some ridiculously thought up “swamp” as the Trump administration and much of the media and political right wing “news” websites would have you believe. The globalists are the powers-that-be-that-we-don’t see. They are the “wizard behind the curtain” while people like Trump, Soetoro, Bush, Clinton, etc., are the big, floating head.
We are living in the actual end times that the Bible talks about. Some people believe that Christians will not face the last 7 years, and we will not see who the Anti-Christ is, and we will not go through any tribulation. If that were true then why does the Bible warn us what to expect? Why are we warned against taking the mark? Wouldn’t that be like warning a paraplegic that their muscles are going to ache the day after a big run? Or like warning a blind person not to stare at the sun?
We are already about to enter into the final period, if we haven’t already. We are about to live through the tribulation until the Lord takes us out of this world. Regardless of who the Anti-Christ is, we are going to find out. We will be faced with military, police and FEMA attempting to convince us to take the mark of the beast. We will still be faced with the main task we were COMMANDED to complete, which is to go make disciples. That job is far from over yet. Or should I say, that honor is far from over. Jesus did His part while He had walked this earth. He travelled all over, telling people about what they need to do to have eternal life. Sadly, many Christians today have not even attempted to do this. For those who have yet to start, think of it this way: We get to do what Jesus did! If that seems unimportant to you then you need to talk to God about that.
For those who are bickering about pointless politics (“Oh, but they wanna take my guns away!” “But, we need to have the president we voted for!” “I have the right to not bake a cake for the LGBT community!”} What do you think we should be doing? What is best for completing the race set before us? Fighting for our worldly, selfish rights, or leading others to Christ? Imagine all the many saints that came before us. Imagine Paul, Timothy, Moses, Jonah, and many others, standing at the sides of the last stretch of a race. Imagine them all cheering you on, as you are approaching the finish line. Imagine them yelling out, “Stop worrying about the things of this world and GO!” “Put your phone away and get off Twitter!” “Stop attending rallies and start attending Bible studies and prayer meetings!”
The Bible warns us of all the things that we are to expect during these times. Things that are going to happen, regardless of whether we agree with it or not. Our “right” will be taken away. We will be persecuted. And most importantly, for those who are true to Christ, we will get to be with Him when we have finished the race. There will be no more waiting, no more anger or tears, no more worldly frustrations that we are not to be concerned with anyway. At the end of this long tunnel stands our King with open arms. Meditate on that.
Perfectly said Patrick!
Deborah Hartvikson, I second that! ?? AMEN Patrick! ??
Amen Patrick. You say the same way like me. Stop wasting time, energy and resources fighting for Rights. Teach on evangelism and go out to act on it. Get as many Saved into the Kingdom while there is still time.
If you are struggling with this prophecy, as I did initially, then I would encourage you to look up all her prophecies and hear exactly what she is saying. She is right about all these people who are praying prosperity and peace over Trump, in that they are motivated by their own selfish desires. I recognize this as I also have the same selfish desires to live a prosperous and peaceful life. However I know from personal experience that God chastises, disciplines and scourges those He loves (Heb 6) and not only this, but He will bring about His will and plans upon the earth when He desires and not when it suits us. Personally I would rather sit this one out but it would be foolish to ignore warnings from a genuine prophet. Listen … you may learn something, I did.
https://youtu.be/irWk1lSYzzg
Mena Lee Grebin: Obama is the Final President and Will Lead America Into the Tribulation.
Z3 News May 9, 2015 4:20 PM By James Bailey
https://z3news.com/w/mena-lee-grebin-obama-final-president-lead-america-tribulation/
What Mena Lee Grebin saw regarding Obama being the final president of the USA confirms what I saw in a dream in 2014. Many have dismissed this prophetic warning since Obama completed his two terms, but I believe it will happen exactly as she and I both saw.
I think the theme of this dream is that the Evangelicals really cling to supporting Israel. Jared Kushner was somewhat of a genius at understanding demographics and campaign targeting. It was his suggestion that President Trump embrace Christians and emphasize Israeli support. . It has been Jared orchestrating the peace plans in the Middle East, and moving toward the Two State Solution.. According to the dead end road and not being interested in the Atlas, I think perhaps God thwarts Jared’s plans. When I prayed over this dream 4years ago, I heard “Jared Jewelry Box” immediately.In my spirit. I searched it and there was a beautiful polished wooden box. So I feel strongly it was about him being a “backseat driver” of a two state solution. I think if he had not been the president’s son in law, this agenda may not have been considered. Who knows? What if our president reads Z3 news? Would you write differently about him? . Maybe he will read this article and comments too. I think we should love on him and pray for him. With all the key words that go back to National Security, I think we all would be naive to know our president is not aware of who is respectful and who has been disrespectful towards him on the internet. I think he, like all of us, is a different man than four years ago. I think God is not done with him. I think God is not done with the Apple of his eye, Israel either.. Beloved, we must love one another. Donald J Trump deserves kindness, honor, and respect like anyone else as he is in the Highest Office in our country. That is not the same as adoration or worship, of which only our LORD is worthy of such praise. Never has a president received more accusations and slander than he. To be reviled by the world is a blessing, according to Scripture. Has anyone even looked at the GOOD things he’s done for our country? Those who are so opposed to him or didn’t vote, you may now have Joe Barrabas if voter fraud is not exposed. I don’t think our president will ” lure them in” because I believe prophecy can change the course of bad things by prayer. With all the prayers for him and Israel, I’m praying no one gets “lured in” by Jared’s proposed plans or any “pulling of the plug” of Christians. . God bless. ??
Excellent Carolanne. The MSM moves public opinion, we as christians are also being manipulated.
IMHO the MSM’s treatment of Donald Trump has been disrespectful for 4 years. Whether you hate him or love him, respect is important. He has achieved plenty. And yes he has made mistakes. Philip
Phil, thank you. You’re a true friend, Brother. God bless your kind heart.
Thanks Carolanne – still have my DONG currency for a rainy day ?️♂️
Was this box Jared Kushners box or the brand Jared jewelry boxes?
Kathleen, When I first came to z3, this was the first article I ever commented on. Scroll down-I felt the interpretation I wrote in 2017 strongly from the Holy Spirit. I heard ias I was reading, “search Jared jewelry box.” I was aware of Jared’s Jewelers-we have one in my hometown. But when I searched, there was a box that fit the description Mena gave. I knew right then that the dream concerned the Kushners. I didn’t know if Jared Jewelers even sold jewelry boxes, but it gave confirmation when I saw one that this was what the LORD had shown me. I never had interpreted a dream before, so it was exciting and I was very humbled when the Spirit handed me that insight, as I felt like I was given a new spiritual gift. I was very grateful and joyful about it. It says to desire prophecy above all gifts-so I believe as we hunger for more, we will receive more. Z3 was to me a new forum that allowed me to learn more about prophetic dreams, revelations, and words, as well as interpretations, which stirred my desire to know Jesus in deeper, unfathomable ways. It’s been a true blessing. ?
I support this man because of many things. He is not my God, nor is he my political Savior. However, it is because of Biblical values as to why I stood firm in supporting him in this term. I believe this man is part of judgment over America, however, with grace towards the people of God. Mena, your dream gave me clarity on 2 dreams that I had within the last year and a half about this man. One was driving in the same car as him with him being in the driver’s seat also, but the outcome was different. But the 2nd dream, was the answer to a question I asked the Lord about whether this man was going to split the land of Israel into 2. Let’s just say I arrived to one of his buildings around Christmas time and arrived at his personal office with one commissioner that came out to the judgment stand that split into 2. I believe this could have been the peace plan Trump presented in January 2020 with the resulting Jamaica 7.4 Earthquake that rocked Miami just 2 hours later. Anyway, as much as I believe Trump is still for Israel, he is still just a man like King Cyrus, and in light of this dream you just shared, I have to remind myself to keep this answer from the Lord at heart. I have always said, the day Trump turns his back on Israel, is the day I stop supporting him. Let’s keep our eyes on Jesus, thank you for reminding us of that Mena. Glory to Jesus, God bless you. Jesus Christ is Lord.
Sadly Mena – IMHO the Biden / Harris socialist agenda is no better. Biden is barely literate and Harris is dangerous. Her agenda is to disarm the population. Once Russia and China make their move, Americans potentially will be defenceless. This video is very funny and yet deeply tragic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CgKv8GooHtk
The only interpretation I can think of for this dream is that Trump made Christians think he was for them by appearing to show support for Israel, and then at some point in the future he will turn on Christians. Which would probably occur after his re-election, since he needed the Evangelical vote. This dream also appears to show that he’ll continue charging ahead with his own agenda instead of following God’s agenda. Any thoughts?
My sentiments and deduction exactly. Last week as I was praying on this American election matter, the Scripture that was dropped in my spirit was, 1 King 12:12-16, 18-24. Rehoboam suffered for his arrogance, pride, taking things for granted and thought it was business as usual. I was a Trump supporter until I noticed his character becoming mean towards others. He needs prayers even at this late hour to avoid wrecking his marriage ending in divorce.
Wow look at what’s on the news now. And listen to the discussion on Trunews on 11/29/17
Have just come across this Mena, and thank you for sharing. I read an article where in 2012 Henry Kissinger announced, ”In 10 years time Israel will not exist”, that would be 2022. I wondered, from your dream, whether Trump is meaning to pull the plug on Zionist Israel?? Everyone knows, or should know, that he takes his orders from the Shadow government. He is not a Christian, he does not follow Christ and he has categorically stated that he does his church his way. Self, self, self.
Here is a word given by the Holy Spirit, for why some are struggling with discernment on different voices out their. (Note: Because I put this under this post does not mean I am talking about Mena, this is a general word, to help some one, and warn those this message is applying too.)
There Is A Spirit Of Diotrephes Running In The Church
Often overlooked in one of the shortest book of the Bible, lies two verses describing an individual named Diotrephes. When reading this book, many just skim through these two verses, as being one of the names being listed on the Apostle John roll call.
3 John 1:9-10 [9] I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes who loves to have preeminence among them, receives us not. [10] Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he does, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither does he himself receive the brethren, and forbids them that would, and cast them out of the church.
As my spiritual eyes look around, I am seeing more and more people trying to get in, where they can fit in, in the Body Of Christ. These individuals are doing so, not because God led them there, but because they want to be first, be seen, have name recognition, and have some sort of popularity throughout a certain demographic in the church.
These individuals try to control the narrative. They will prophecy a specific word, not because God told them and the word came from God, but because this caters to a specific demographic in the church, and even the world, thus giving these individuals speaking these words preeminence with this demographic of people. And if one dares challenge their words or actions, they will look to shut them down, ostracize them, and say things such as: “You are dividing the body,” “You are deceived,” “You are hearing from the wrong source.”…etc. Now their names gets out their, and people are quick to refer to their name, teachings, and prophecies, but not quick to ask God if he really did send them, and their word.
The people with the Spirit of Diotrephes also look to be the star of the show. They want no one stealing the spotlight they are trying to obtain. Jesus said, “We are the light of the world, a city that sits on a hill.” The true church should be shining as whole, by each person shinning by keeping God’s commands, spreading the gospel, and do work God has called each of us to do. These individuals carrying this spirit think they are the only ones allowed to shine. They refuse to work unless it benefits their popularity. They are very quick to be a stumbling block against those who are doing their best to fulfill the will of God in their life. And they seek to be a stumbling block those truly God sent teachers, preachers, apostles, evangelist, and to those who have been given true revelation, insights, and prophetic words from God. The Spirit of Diotrephes was the same spirit used to try and shut down many of Franklin Graham’s crusades he putting on. It was the pastor’s of the city going to government asking him not to be allowed a permit to hold is crusades.
This nasty spirit shares “Diva” qualities, which are: They complain, act childish, make presumptuous nonsense accusations against God true men and women, refuse to listen nor be corrected on erroneous doctrine, yet quick to call themselves correcting someone else, and they act condescending towards anyone not agreeing with what they put out.
Quite a bit of people are not able to discern the times we are living in, or prophecies given, simply because they are blindly following the Spirit of Diotrephes, or they have this spirit themselves. They name drop and association drop, and say these individuals were on this show, radio program, this website, and they gave a message people wanted to hear, now they are so popular, their words have become the standard, not the word of God. The new standard is believing what they say, because this is what you want to hear, not seeking God for the truth ourselves anymore. Instead we just claim we sought God, and look for the very first thing we can find to represent a metaphor to bolster are preconceived narrative. Case and point: I have been seeing the number 107 lately, and the other day I went into the everything is a dollar store, and look at God every item rung up was 1.07, this is a sign from God. Of course everything is going to be a 1.07 when you have a 7 cent sales taxes, and every item in the store is exactly 1 dollar.
Brothers and Sisters do not be deceived by the Spirit of Diotrephes, nor look to posses this spirit. God is getting ready to bring the next wave of judgment on the house of the Lord, and those who have this spirit will be marked for God’s judgment.
Thanks Matt Smith. I appreciate what you have shared. I am called a witch, Jezebel, false this, false that. Deceived and a deceiver. Excluded from fellowships. Etc etc.
The question is have I got this disgusting unclean spirit? It is impt that a leadership / fellowship is able to make a sound judgement on whether I have. I can only suggest that prayer, listening and seeking the LORD is necessary to answer this. We need to get it right because the LORD will repay and recompense accordingly.
Ask God sincerely in humility and repentance He will show you. David prayed for God to search him and restore him after he opened up to satan through his adulterous relationship and murder of Uriah. Ps. 51; Ps.65 Ps. 119;29. There’s another Psalm about ” God searching our hearts…” ptray this prayers in an heartfelt passionate way and trust Him for an inner cleansing.
Thank you Redeemed David. I appreciate you sharing those scriptures.
You’re welcome as always dear Jane from New Zealand. A big hearty cheers to my Christian family over there all the way from Africa. Keep the fire burning and keep soaring till we meet @ the wedding supper of the Lamb.
Oh, old comment by Matt.
Trump announces transgendered people will not serve in the military today. I’d say this is a timely prophecy that is starting to be fulfilled.
Why are you publishing Mena Lee Grebin’s “visions”? Was she not the one that said Obama would Not leave office? Well he physically left office and now we have a new president. .doesn’t the Bible say if someone prophesies in his name and it does not happen, then that makes them a false prophet?
Maybe you should do your homework before publicly accusing someone of being a false prophet. Mena never said Obama would not leave office. She said Obama would be our final President who would usher us into the tribulation. What she saw confirms what I saw. This story is still in progress. Obama has not left Washington DC and is far from being done. He is running a large organization, OFA, whose goal is to divide our country and destroy us. In many ways, he is acting like the President in exile. Some prophetic insights have even warned about him returning to the White House.
Prophecies often take time to be fulfilled. Yet you have falsely accused her of speaking falsely in God’s name. Who then is the false prophet?
Yeah. Thank you James. Two years ago the Lord used her testimony to wake me up from my spiritual lull. Everytime I have ask the Lord about her and her words, I get that wait and see response. That scripture about not touching the Lord’s anointed and doing his prophets no harm always comes to mind with her. So I watch and pray!
Came across this video from Glynda Lomax on how to pray for our leaders.
https://youtu.be/SaApiTGuT_U
It seems that Donald Trump is appearing to some to be driving the right way, but after a while people will begin to become uneasy as events prove things are not quite right.He has been believed to be the saviour of the USA, but, saved or not, that he cannot be.That mistake was made with Obama, but the lesson has not been learned. American presidents have mostly been proved to be part of the long term satanic agenda which the Lord is allowing to bring the USA down.
I think this dream is almost crystal clear in its interpretation.
Crytal clear in its meaning, I meant.
I believe there is a parallel between Trump and Onesimus, if one can see it, that is.
When many speak from the book of Philemon, there is a mention of how Paul pleaded with Philemon to accept Onesimus. There is also a mention of how confident Paul was that Philemon would not disappoint him.
What seems to be seldom talked about is verse 12
I am sending him—who is my very heart—back to you.
and the repercussions of that statement. Just because Paul has pleaded with Philemon for Onesimus and is confident of Philemon accepting him does not absolve Onesimus of the responsibility of making the journey back to Philemon. It seems Onesimus proves himself genuine by returning to his master and remaining faithful thereafter because there is a mention of him in Colossians 4:9.
All the anointing and prayers for Trump do not absolve him of making his own Christian journey and proving himself faithful to Christ. Just as Onesimus had the free will to make his ultimate choice then, President Trump also has the free will to make his ultimate choice during his lifetime. And no one can make that choice for him, if he hasn’t already, as much as one may want to.
To those who are questioning Mena’s accuracy on prophecy concerning her appearance on Trunews, she could still be right. This scenario could still play out.
There are all sorts of possibilities, but it’s impossible to convey that to people who already know everything.
I like that answer James
I feel like a one day at a time walk
Because the Holy Spirit may say go this way today then that way the next day.
His word is the truth every day
And what ever is to be done will be done.
I’m watching my Fathers word play out
I may or may not know what will happen next.
And he is the one that knows all
We do not
Amen to that Kathleen.
Oh dear, sad but true James. I used to know everything and then I started getting new information, whoops!
I know many here may disagree with me on this, but I think there’s a good chance Trump was chosen by the elite (and God who ultimately has control over the elite, Satan and everyone else to use for His purposes, some vessels for honor and some for dishonor) to bring about global war, a devaluation and change of American currency, and as a result, intensified persecution of Christians (because a vast majority of evangelicals voted for Trump and were one of the key reasons for his victory, and non believers have associated Trump with Christians for this and other obvious reasons). There is plenty of msm propaganda associating evangelical Christians with Trump now and I expect that to only intensify. I think we really only had the choice of the elites created villain (Hillary) vs. the elites created antithesis/hero (Trump). Either would have led us down the same road of judgement, but maybe having Hillary would have caused us to repent sooner. And maybe Trump is buying us more “happy days” than Hillary would have. Either way the stage continues to be set on cue for God to send the world a stong delusion for not receiving the love of the truth… order out of total chaos and everything we read in Revelation. I picture the current climate of deception as a dense spiritual fog that only those who soar high above by the discernment of the Holy Spirit can see below with the encroaching enemies of hell towering all around.
I 100% agree with everything you said Geoff K. Trump will give the illusion of “draining the swamp” but how much has been lawfully changed? Once Trump is assassinated or impeached or removed from office, Obama will return to office & undo Trump’s Executive Orders. Watch Trump’s actions on the things that would be priorities for any devout Christian & the facade begins to dispel.
That said, I still regularly pray that Trump does God’s Will, regardless of what that entails. I believe we are on the precipice of strong judgement from God on multiple nations but the USA will be the starting point. Never has so much been given to a nation that has fallen so far from God. ?
I believe as well…TPTB will form a problem and also bring the solution, but in reality both, problem and solution, are used to further their agenda..order out of chaos …in this case Trump is the solution in the eyes of many, especially the church. ..the chaos going on now has been planned and aligns with their agenda to enforce martial law…I’m still not sure if Trump is knowingly participating or has no clue
Dear Mena. I thank you so much! I know it was the Lord who gave this to you. I’m so glad He chose you to receive and deliver this word. I hope you see this comment. It really comes from my heart. This prophecy is so spot on! It’s people like you that make this website feel like church.
This prophecy is very straight-forward and is not that abstract at all. We all know the principle of cause and effect. It’s universal in all things. So first, they gave us a Jimmy Carter and we know what the effect was. He almost single-handedly took down the country. That action also primed the patriots and the Christians. So then, they gave us a Ronald Reagan and a George H. W. Bush. The effect was; the patriots and the Christians started singing “happy days are here again”. As for those of you who are “in the know”, Reagan and Bush were not who they appeared to be. Dark State, all the way! Then, they gave us a Clinton and we all prayed that we would survive. Now, the Church was really primed up! So then, they gave us a good-old-boy named Bush Junior and of course, everybody sang “happy days are here again”. Am I seeing a pattern here? Well, let’s see.
So then, they give us a stranger that nobody knows who he really is, even to this day and he has horns on his head. So, gee-whiz! I wonder who they’re going to give us next? Oh look!. They gave us a Ronald Reagan a couple of Bushes, and a man who is not a politician, an insider, or politically correct and a Republican, all rolled up into one, who’s going to turn everything around. Gosh! Aren’t we all surprised?
So, here’s the question for all the Z3ers. Who, in the whole wide world, has ever been as effective in putting the Church back to sleep and singing “happy days are here again”, than Donald Trump? Hint: Nobody becomes president without being groomed for years. Please, see (contributor) Joanie Stahl’s article here on Z3, entitled “Trump Has Already Been Chosen Two Years Ago”, dated April 28, 2016 at https://z3news.com/w/trump-chosen-two-years-ago Nobody becomes president unless they are selected by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations). Remember what FDR said: “Presidents are not elected, they are selected”. He also said: “Nothing happens in politics by accident”. Trump’s election was no miracle!
I don’t have time to look up the Scriptures now, but the Bible says “I the Lord reign over the heathen and I place over them the vilest of the people”. It also says: “Because this is an unjust people, set an evil king over them and let Satan stand at his right hand”. There are many, many such Scriptures. This is one of the ways that God’s wrath is continuously being poured out upon the nations. In the book of Revelation, chapters 17, 18, and the first part of chapter 19, we’re told that America is under the full wrath and vengeance of God and will undergo genocide until men will be more scarce than gold. Since we know that God is sovereign, that nothing transpires in time and space outside of His eternal decree, we know that Trump was ordained by God to be the pseudo-president for this time. Considering this, we should expect that the Messiah’s purpose in placing Trump in office would be, not for the nation’s benefit, but for its detriment. I also personally believe that Trump has been placed there, so we could gauge the depth of the Church’s backslidden condition, revealing that they would not be able to discern that this “used car salesman” was as fake as any Federal Reserve Note, from the beginning.
Now, in both the books of Romans and Peter, regarding the admonition to pray for those who are rulers and in authority; let it be known, that the form of government we have is a Constitutional Republic. The citizens (the Body Politic) are the absolute rulers of this country. The elected officials are not rulers, they are “subjects” of the citizenry. We have four branches of government, not three. The top-tier is the Body Politic and the other three branches are subservient. Should they violate their oath of office, they are then subject to penal punishment, up to and including capital punishment. Since it should be obvious to all, that we lost the lower three branches of government over 100 years ago, then, who are the rulers we’re supposed to be praying for? Maybe, we should pray that they be brought to justice, instead.
Love you, Mena. Hang tough!
I had wanted to(initially) refrain from commenting on this post , seeing so many people were divided on this issue, then I came across a message online which I believe could be of help.
Choose this day who’s will you will serve – Part 2
Posted on July 24, 2017 by Kevin Barrett
Dear Saints,
The Lord has been speaking more to my dear pastor and friend on the subject of following His will and not another’s. Our Lord loves us all deeply and so He has given us another prophetic word concerning this matter. This word is very insightful and I have learned a lot from it. I pray that it blesses you all as well.
Word from the Lord:
“My dear children, hear Me as I speak to you this day…I desire that you know who’s will you are following…for I love you with an everlasting love & I do not want you to ever be misled in your walk with Me. For as I have told you before, the enemy is using deception to mislead My people to change direction & go through doors that I did not open for them…many do not understand how this can happen. I wish to open up your understanding so that this will not happen unto you. For most everyone will think that just because some big “door” will open up, that the door is of Me…but few will recognize the truth in this & steer away from that which is counterfeit & to fully know the will of your Father!
When I appeared unto Elijah & passed before him, there was a great & strong wind which rent the mountains & broke in pieces the rocks before Me, but I was not in the wind. After the wind came an earthquake, but I was not in the earthquake…& after the earthquake came a fire, but I was not in the fire…then after the fire…came a still small voice…I was in the STILL SMALL VOICE. When Elijah heard My still small voice, he wrapped his face in his mantle, because he was ashamed that he looked for Me in those other things! Even so, many of My people today will still look to the things that appear outwardly & will miss My still small voice. I want My people to walk closely to Me, not looking at the natural.
For many times when such a big door has opened, even what I have already said to them by My still small voice will be totally overlooked, because of the greatness of what has appeared to them outwardly. For surely they will say…” this is the door of the Lord”, because of what they see in the natural. I challenge My people this day to choose who’s will, you will serve! Will you blindly accept any door that opens to you, just because of what you see, or will you stop & truly look within & allow Me to speak to you, out of a pure, humble & contrite heart? For surely, if you will look within with all honesty, you will see that I had already told you what to do, but because a door to My will delayed, you went astray.
Never forget that the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him…neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. You cannot discern things spiritually when you have your heart, mind & soul set on that which is natural. But, many will become confused & walk through a huge door just because it is there, believing “the Lord will close the door if it is not of Him”. So, then, why did I NOT close the door on the prodigal son? No…I allowed him to go the way that he had already agreed to in his heart & he had to walk out that will that he had chosen. Even so, many who will walk through doors that were not opened by Me, have to walk out their will.
The thing that saddens Me, My children, is that when My people see such a great door open, they will pray that My will is done…but even while praying, they will keep their hearts fixed on that door in front of them. This is why they never recognize what I said to them in My still small voice…because they cannot see something SO small when something so HUGE is fixed before them. It is just as if they never heard Me in the first place. I need you to understand that before the devil came to Me & offered Me the kingdoms of this world, I had already heard the still small voice of My Father…He had already told Me what to do & I kept what He said in front of Me – I didn’t let the enemy’s door distract Me.
I want you to learn the way things are supposed to be…I want you to be like Me…who for the joy that was set before Me, endured the cross, despising the shame & am set down at the right hand of the throne of God. I did not walk through that glamorous, shiny door…I went through the door that was small, hard & difficult. I didn’t take the “smooth” & easy route…I took the road that was painful & not glamorous. I want you to be like Me, My people…many of My people say that they want to be like Me, but forget that they must also suffer with Me, that they may also be glorified together. Many have missed My best for them as they went a way that was not of Me…but I allowed them to go their own way.
For even as with the prodigal, they must walk out their choices until they come to themselves…many times they can still return unto Me & obey what I originally told them to do…but sometimes things have changed because of the choice they made & what I had purposed for them may never be on the same level as I had originally planned, for they foolishly spent what that I had given them, being on the prodigal’s road. But, just as with the prodigal, they can still return unto Me & have a ring on their finger & the best robe on their back. Their reward will never be as great as it could have been, because of the choices that they made. But their lives will be hidden in Me & I will still bless them to some measure.
I offer to them a new beginning…as they will repent from going their own way, I will redeem them from what the enemy has wanted them to do. Hear Me, My people & stop looking at the huge doors…for that is not what I do. Did King David just walk through a huge glamorous door & become king? No, he went through a small insignificant door & became a sheepherder…he followed My still small voice. Did Joseph just walk through a huge glamorous door? No…he walked through a door filled with shame & indignity…for he followed My still small voice. I want you to be like them, My people…so seek Me & you shall find Me, for as you will follow My still small voice you will not be disappointed, says the Lord”.
END PROPHETIC WORD
The Lord desires for us to learn to hear His still small voice at all times and follow Him. These last days will only get darker and deception greater. This word is a timely word to help us stay on the narrow path…
If these words from the Lord encourage or help you in any way, please consider returning the favor with a financial gift (of any size) to help with my monthly needs. I always trust the Lord to lay it upon the hearts of those who are obedient and giving, and so I give a big thank you to those of you who do help. I also pray the Lord’s abundant blessings in return for those who give. Love and blessings to you all.
Your brother in Christ,
Kevin B.
BEWARE OF THE ERROR OF BALAAM, KEEP YOURSELF IN YOUR MOST HOLY FAITH, SPEAK IN TONGUES MORE. Jude 20.
This dream may not represent bad, but showing us that much prayer is needed.
It seems at the heart of the matter is Israel. But who is he luring in, Muslims, NWO, Israel, etc? Is this the reason Trump was elected, his stand on Israel
They say a road can be paved with good intentions. Trump has tried in many ways to do what is right, but he is being blocked, mocked, and ridiculed. Could the road ahead keep getting worse. The more he tries the harder it gets. The father along in his presidency, the worse it gets.
The pressures are enormous. Could that be the fear of tires being blown.
Is the atlas the plan everyone has mapped out for him, but he is determined to go forward with his own agenda, no matter what. He will do what he believes is right as long as he can.
Could the crossroad be a decision that leads to trouble. Interesting word “crossroads.” Has he been going to the cross for the people of the US.
Trump is finally stopped, there is nothing he can do, he can’t go any farther, there is no where he can turn to but the Lord. God is his only hope, our only hope.
I have a different perspective on this dream. I believe the star of David symbolizes the Zionist Agenda (ant-Christ system or NWO) currently under the control of the Rothchilds and the other global elites. God is presently using Trump to dismantle the NWO.
Z3: President Trump is not perfect and neither are we. God put him in office and it is our duty to pray for him.
Rodney Howard Brown shared that there is a plot in Capitol Hill to take him out and he is calling on the Body of Christ to pray.
https://www.prisonplanet.com/pastor-senior-republican-told-me-of-plan-to-take-out-trump.html
INTERPRETATION GIVEN TO JOANNA FROM YAHUSHUA:
The car represents the USA.
The passenger in the front seat represents the people of USA.
The son in the back seat represents the nation of Israel.
Trump driving the car represents the leader of the USA.
Narrow winding road represents the difficulties Trump has encountered.
The Mountains represent those who are controlling the world.
The clear sunny day represents the false appearance that all is well….deception.
The road atlas represents the many choices that can be made while driving the “car-USA.
The wrong direction represents people in the USA and in government feeling like we are going in the wrong direction as a nation.
Trump insisted it was the right path though many were telling him it was wrong…..His pride will cause Him to fall.
The more people tried to show him the right way the more prideful and angry he became….pride.
As Trump continued to drive the road changed from paved to gravel and the danger increased….he would not slow down…pride.
The car….USA….began to rock…..unstable…..people in the USA became afraid.
Tires felt like they were going to blow…..USA….explodes.
The people tried to get Trump to look at the map…..listen to others who were warning him.
The four way stop represents a point in time when everything can change with the next decision he Trump makes.
Trump picked up beautiful wooden box….representing temptation……..that was under the seat…..in a hidden place…..deception.
Many boxes inside one another such as a puzzle represents deceptive tactics.
Son reaches the center of the boxes to find a small white box…..Trump insists son….Israel to open the box….so Israel does.
In the white box was beautiful gold chain with gold Star of David hanging from it…..represents “The Temple Mount”.
Son’s eyes full of excitement…..The Temple Mount represents the Altar….and the building of the Third Temple.
Trump is enticing and luring the nation of Israel by offering The Temple Mount to them…..but it is a TRAP.
Fear will grip the people when Israel is trapped.
Night coming….not knowing where we are…..and coming to a dead end….no lights…..no where to turn.
This represents the death of Trump, the USA, and judgment…..the USA falls into the very pit, that the USA had dug for Israel.
As it is written: “those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed.
your servant of the number 144 sealed 4/4/2013 Joanna.
I agree to a great extent with Joanna’s interpretation. I find it interesting that Mena posted this dream the same day that Pastor TD Hale posted his dream about Israel. The fact that the prize at the center of the box (sounds like a Cracker Jack commercial) was a Star of David, means to me that the dream is about Israel.
One thing about prophetic dreams is that “our” interpretation on a first read could be very different from what the Lord is intending to convey. As I reread Mena’s dream, her experience driving with Trump clearly identifies the current state of his administration. It is outright chaotic to say the least. And Trump is one of those individuals who’s motto is “Da*m the torpedos and full speed ahead!”
The four way stop is significant, it does signify a decision point and I agree that the Star of David is referring to Israel. But what the full intent of the message of the dream is I am still not sure, it could indeed be as Joanna has described, I am still mulling this over. Trump’s statement “See, this is how I’m going to lure them in. I will give them what they’re asking for, and then I’m going to pull the plug.” Is very open ended, who is “them” is it the citizens of the USA, is the people of Israel, or is he referring to his enemies. It is hard to say.
Personally, I like Mena, and I particularly like the way she ends each post with “As with all things, take this to prayer.” Which is what we all should be doing rather than spouting off the cuff the way many of us do.
Didn’t Mrs. Grebin prophecy that Obama would be our last president????
She certainly did. It was the most listened to program of TruNews history. Well… there is another president in the White House. Hmmm.
Keep watching! Our last president means there will be none after him..so in my opinion until Obama is dead that is still very much a possibility
Many people prayed after Mena’s last prophecy. When she makes the prophecy I start to pray within a day or so. Her prophecy was one of the reasons Trump was elected because so many people prayed. thank you and God bless you
Nineveh was spared God’s judgement because EVERYONE repented even down to the animals. I don’t see that happening in America. I do believe the Lord is very merciful and that’s why , along with the prayers of the remnant, is why we haven’t seen major judgement as of yet but it’s coming. Mena was very detailed about Obama’s election but I only heard about that after the fact, I don’t know for certain that she spoke that before Obama even came on the scene. It looks like to me that she missed this one .
You have publicly accused Mena Lee Grebin of being “very detailed about Obama’s election.” Please provide a quote from her with a link to where you saw that because I cannot find it. The closest I know of is where she stated Obama would be America’s final President who would lead us into the tribulation, which says nothing about any election and is not a miss because it is still in progress. Her statement confirms what I have seen, Obama leading America to our destruction.
You have accused her of missing it without even taking the time to find out what she said. That is how Satan operates, the accuser of the brethren, hurling accusations with no facts to back it up, slandering, sowing doubt and discord. We should clean up our own mess before trying to clean up someone else.
Amen James!
James, Mena Lee Grebin’s prophecy of Obama as the last president is from the May 8, 2015 Z3 News: “Mena Lee Grebin: Obama is the Final President and Will Lead America Into the Tribulation.”
Yes, I saw the same thing in a dream in 2014. As a friend of mine once said, “Prophecy is like the rodeo. You have to hold on for more than 8 seconds.”
Put not your faith in princes… Pray for all our leaders.
After prayerfully considering the dream, I do not hear the Lord is portraying our President as a sinister man. I often dream in word puns ( puzzles)I was led by the Lord to search Jared Jewelry box and sure enough, there was a beautiful smooth, polished wooden box for sale. the Lord affirmed what the dream was about.
The dream is about Jared and Ivanka Kushner usurping our president’s authority with their liberal globalistic agenda. Donald Trump was taking control of the wheel. His hostility represents his own frustration with his mistakes in having allowed the couple what they want ,(LGBTQ rights, White House staffing decisions, attack in Syria,etc) and now realizing he needs to regain control and stop giving them his ear. (Pulling the plug)
Concerning the beautiful Star of David the words charm on a chain resonated. Ivanka’s conversion to Judaism, her articulate, educated brand of beauty could easily beguile. The deceptive charm is on a chain (bondage) that leads to a dark road to nowhere, Outer Darkness.
Your son represents our youth being brainwashed by the liberal agenda in our schools. (Nodding speechlessely while being beguiled.) I don’t think Donald Trump is intentionally causing harm to our youth, but allowing his daughter’s agenda to continue will decieve our youth and we must pray he is enlightened that he needs to stop giving in to their ideals.
The atlas represents the antithesis to Jared’s brilliant technological knowledge and liberalism. . Old School were the words I heard. You and the Atlas symbolized the Word of the Lord and the map represented the way of the Lord . Donald Trump wanted to stay in the drivers seat, going his own way (he loves Sinatra’s song My Way) even though he had been driving in the wrong direction. We must pray for his wholehearted surrender to give the steering wheel to the Lord , to pray for his being enlightened about the manipulation of the Kushners and strength to resist his daughter’s charm, and to pray for our children in our schools that are being bewitched, in Jesus name. Without Godly leadership, our country is headed for the dreadful black of night. Prayers of the saints are urgently called for!
Carolanne
Very interesting interpretation. I am going to keep this in mind.
This is the first time I was led to comment on z3. What I was shown seemed only mildly relevant. Now i feel in my spirit it is time. Read the dream interpretation I was shown. This correlates to the beautiful woman from James’ dream. I believe her father is reading the Atlas now-the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I believe he’s being enlightened by the Holy Spirit. Pray that the baton of power goes to a son instead, for who will take over next. Think of the peace treaty and it will make more sense. God can move the heart of a ruler like a river course, so prayer can change the course too. . Shalom
This is an amazing dream with much prophetic insight. I speak as one who supports Trump and prays for him. I don’t claim to know how everything is going to turn out other than I do know scripture must and will be fulfilled. This one thing I do know, when Trump speaks of the God of Abraham he doesn’t speak of the God I know. He doesn’t speak of my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit that brings us to Jesus , leading and guiding us into all truth. He speaks of a generic one world religion version of that God that embraces the three Great Abrahamic faiths as he calls them. Be not deceived as the stage is being set before our very eyes for the emergence of the antichrist. We are truly being lead where we don’t want to go believing the whole time that someone from the world system will arise representing the God of Abraham.
that’s a good word right there : )
Thanks Jaretta! I just speak what I see. I actually really like Donald Trump and his boldness. I had the privilege of going to see him sworn in. I do notice everytime he is on the world stage and speaks of the 3 great Abrahamic faiths. I always always get a check in my spirit. I believe no matter who is speaking we always need to be spiritually alert.
Amen Lydia! He speaks of the one on the money and thats ON THE MONEY as they say because its easier for a Billionaire to trust in his riches than to trust in JESUS!
All these comments remind me of the election season. It’s not usually either or it’s usually a bit of both. America will never be great again, but many will come to know Him during our downfall
Why dont we all pray that Mr. Trump gets “lured in” by God the Holy Spirit concerning all things with Israel? I thank God my prayers are more real than any dream.
From Online Etymology:”trump (v.2) Look up trump at Dictionary.com
“fabricate, devise,” 1690s, from trump “deceive, cheat” (1510s), from Middle English trumpen (late 14c.), from Old French tromper “to deceive,” of uncertain origin. Apparently from se tromper de “to mock,” from Old French tromper “to blow a trumpet.” Brachet explains this as “to play the horn, alluding to quacks and mountebanks, who attracted the public by blowing a horn, and then cheated them into buying ….” The Hindley Old French dictionary has baillier la trompe “blow the trumpet” as “act the fool,” and Donkin connects it rather to
trombe “waterspout,” on the notion of turning (someone) around. Connection with triumph also has been proposed. Related: Trumped; trumping. Trumped up “false, concocted” first recorded 1728.”
Thanks for sharing that Doug. Very interesting.
Hi Doug – Fascinating study on the word “Trump”. After learning the meaning of Barak Obama’s name, I pay attention to the meaning since I believe it is one more black magik/Occultic tool of the Elites to hide things right in front of our faces, possibly one of the “unwritten rules” that Satan & his followers must comply with. There are videos on YouTube showing 30+ movies! songs, symbols & images for 9/11, as early as 2 decades before the 9/11 attacks. This trick of putting it in front of us is best exemplified by the images on the back of the U.S. Money showing the 9/11 damage to the Twin Towers & the Pentagon well in advance of the actual event.
Thank you for posting your dream sister. This is my interpretation.
Donald Trump is baiting the Christians, the father and son represent Christians baited with the star of David, which represents Israel and also God. He is baiting people by luring them in with the star of David, which he knows the little boy (young Christian) wants. They believe one that he is for Israel and star is used to bait the Christians to flock towards Trump in this manner.
Also the star represents God and union with Him, so the Christians are being baited that Trump represents a union with God and will heal their nation and bring their nation back to God.
But Trump is playing the Christian’s and he will lure them all in and then will pull the plug. Pulling the plug is to me the sign of the end, the collapse of the US economy, world war, the great tribulation/mark of the beast. The dread you felt sister to me signals this is NOT GOOD.
I don’t believe in any man, we are told in the word the kings of the earth share in the fornications of Babylon. We are told to test the fruit, what are the fruits of trump? Do I need to tell you? America is the most spiritually corrupt nation, as they have turned away from the truth and the word tells us those who knew the truth and turned away are PUNISHED with greater punishment.
Nothing Trump is doing is going to lead to America repenting and turning back to God. Sure they may be a strong revival coming, but God’s judgment is imminent upon the world, US included.
To me this is a strong warning of judgment for the US nation and deception at the highest role of office. Trust in Jesus Christ. It is okay to pray for Trump, but considering him as a saviour is idol worship and dangerous. We are right to hope for our nations, but beware putting our hopes in man, and not in our Lord and God Jesus Christ.
Thank you for sharing sister, peace be with you all. May God bless you.
Also I will add to my interpretation. The Christians in the backseat knew where they wanted to go, the father had the atlas, but Trump took them a place they were not expecting. Even with warnings from the father to Trump he got angry and took them across a rough and rugged road into the wilderness. This represents abandonment and betrayal to me. This represents taking Christians away from their intended destination (healing of the nation, bringing the nation to God). Whether you cause these things to Trump or not, has not the nation become more divided since He ran? Do you think these things may be part of a larger plan?
This is a warning of things to come. This is what I believe. We should all exercise great caution in who we trust outside the Lord. For those truth seekers we know there is great deception in the world, and satan is called the ruler of the world by Jesus, and John says the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one. We are right to hope for the best, but our faith in trust lies in Jesus Christ alone. Thank you again sister for sharing.
When Mena Lee first came on the scene I was her #1 fan. Listened to all her videos and followed her on FB. Over the years she has made many prophetic statements, many of them included definite time periods but to my knowledge none of them have materialized, so I no longer bother to even look for her messages anymore. Maybe I am wrong and maybe I missed something so if anyone knows something that I don’t, please correct me.
On the other hand, I came across this news item (see link below) and I am sure that if you readers would just check it out and listen to the embedded interview, it would surely give you a better idea of what is really going on in this satan controlled world. That is, if you don’t already know. http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2017/07/19/breaking-many-elite-headed-to-prison-for-child-sex-trafficking-liz-crokin-on-the-css/
Prophetic stuff can be challenging to understand, especially when timing is involved. Here are some of the most common problems I see.
First, the hearers add their own assumptions to what God revealed, thinking they know what He meant when they don’t. Then when it doesn’t happen like they assumed, they blame the prophet for missing it, but rarely examine their own errors.
Second, there is also a common misunderstanding that prophetic words are predictions rather than warnings. Prophets are not psychics predicting the future, but simply relaying warnings from God about what will happen if we continue on our present course and do not exercise our authority over events. He has given us authority to pray in His name and to speak to the mountains (Luke 10:19, Mark 11:22-24). He gives us warnings so we take action and avoid problems. Even after events have been prophesied to happen, they don’t have to happen, like when Jonah prophesied the destruction of Ninevah and Isaiah prophesied the death of King Hezekiah.
Third, the prophets sometimes make the mistake of mixing in their own assumptions with what God revealed, so by the time they deliver the word, it leads the hearers to the wrong conclusions, especially regarding timing.
Fourth, prophets can completely miss it, get tricked by Satan, or make up words for all the wrong reasons. Jesus warned us about false prophets, so we must beware. However, it is a serious thing to label someone as a false prophet, so we should first consider the other possibilities.
It is true how easy it is for people to accidentally make assumptions based on what they see with revelation. For instance one person may see terrorist attacks or bombs happening in Washington DC and see Obama being rushed to safety by secret service. They might easily conclude that this means it will happen before the end of Obamas presidency. But that isn’t necessarily so. Who would have thought that Obama would stay in DC after his term is up. Some don’t realize that ex-presidents continue to have secret service protection. Or someone may have seen Obama making announcement that the borders would be closed. So again, they conclude this must mean the borders are closed before the end of Obamas term in office, otherwise how could he have that authority to close the borders? Again, this could be that Obama somehow regains power due to a calamity, due to an unprecedented situation, due to him still being in DC, etc.
This is why it is so important to listen to the actual words of God, to not take anything for granted. When I listen to someone giving a word, I am much more interested in the verbatim words of what God shared or the details of what was shown, far more than the interpretation that even the person that received the word thinks it meant. I really appreciate when people don’t paraphrase what God said, because it just adds another layer of obfuscation. Giving the quoted words, verbatim, are the key to not getting in the way of the revelation
Amen
I think there is another very important option. There are quite a number of words from other prophetic voices stating that some people are actually hearing the plans of the enemy, not from God. They are hearing from the second heaven not the third. These may still be valuable but only to pray against.
Not everything Mena has said in other posts have come to pass maybe because Christians prayed and the plans were changed?? Or maybe postponed and for a future time. I have nothing against her but maybe this is possibly a warning dream that we need to pray against. Just my thoughts . Blessings, Corrine
Amen , Richard.
About a year ago, I was perplexed about whether to vote for Trump, or not. Had such a check in my spirit about him. Not that anything is impossible with God, but looked to see if Trump was seeking the Lord, or was it solidifying his base by spending time with evangelical leaders. Was praying about it, and the Lord gave me a vision of Hillary with an evil face. Wasn’t thinking about voting for her, had read Mena’s word about how anyone who voted for her would lose their prophetic insight. Yet, my question to the Lord was whether it was His will to vote for Trump. So I thanked Him for the vision, but said ‘her being evil doesn’t mean that he’s good’. Turned out that it didn’t matter in my state, as she won the state by a wide margin.
Then, a few months ago, I was woken up by the audible voice of God saying “woe to those who call good evil, and evil good”. Still, to this day, trying to discern how that relates to Trump. If his evangelical counselors aren’t speaking the full counsel of God to him (which means repentance comes first), then he may be feeling he’s been approved/covered because all these ministers want his fellowship. Know what I’m saying? A conundrum, but not a spiritual conundrum, cause God is not the author of confusion.
Regardless of your feelings towards Trump, how crazy is it that a young singer with 12.5 million likes on FB openly BRAGS about practicing witchcraft towards Trump & BRAGS about her “love of the occult”? I can not believe how far society has fallen to embrace the “fallen” amongst us. Quite surreal for me as a 47 year old. ?. http://www.nme.com/news/music/lana-del-rey-used-hex-on-donald-trump-2113859
Exactly–and it’s this vicious uprising of true evil against the President that tells me that he is SOOOOO not on their side, at least in their eyes. As the old saying goes, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” If the witches are trying to put spells on Pres Trump, and all the satanic pedophiles in DC are ganged up (across party lines) to try to drive him out of office somehow, that tells me that however imperfect he is, Trump is fundamentally on our side.
Marie you have given the most sensible answer in my opinion. Doesn’t scripture make it very clear that a house divided within itself cannot stand? Satan will not battle so viciously against his own, isn’t that obvious???
Venezuela embraced witchcraft and the occult I believe years ago. Venezuelan went from being one of the 20 wealthiest nations in the world during the 1970s to what we see today. Satan is a liar the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning. He comes to steal kill and destroy. Witchcraft is like kissing a crocodile the friendly relationship won’t last forever.
In order to understand this dream, we first need to understand the origin of the star of David. Yes, it is a symbol of Israel and has been for many years. But according to Wikipedia, “the earliest Jewish usage of the symbol was inherited from medieval Arabic literature by Kabbalists for use in talismanic protective amulets (segulot) where it was known as a Seal of Solomon.” Kabbalists are practitioners of the Kabalah, considered to be a controversial and heretical branch of Judaism which includes elements of mysticism, reincarnation and that evil is a dualistic quality of God, which is similar to the early Gnostic heresy in which believers thought that to have victory over sin, they had to practice sin first. Currently in the Trump administration, there appears to be some real division, with some people resigning or rumored to be resigning. The faction that appears to be gaining more influence is Trump’s daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, both of whom are practicing Kabalists. In his book The Encyclopedia of Jewish Myth, Magic and Mysticism, Rabbi Geoffrey W. Dennis writes,“Virtually every form of Western mysticism and spiritualism known today draws upon Jewish myth and occult teachings—magic, prayer, angelology, alchemy, numerology, astral projection, dream interpretation, astrology, amulets, divination, altered states of consciousness, alternative, and rituals of power—all have roots in the Jewish occult.” Dennis adds: “But for the millennia, many of these core teachings have been unavailable to the general public, concealed by barriers of language and by the protective principles governing the teaching of Kabbalah, which has both nurtured and guarded such knowledge.” This dream could well be an indication of the formation of the Mystery Babylon one world government, economic system and religion from the book of Revelation, headed by the Antichrist and the False Prophet.
Believe me folks, if Donald Trump was a threat to the deep state agenda, he would be dealt with. Is there any reason, other than his words, to think he is not still in bed with the establishment? Has he done some positive stuff? Sure but do you see the swamp draining, tax reform, or health care fixed? Another question to ask is why hasn’t a immigrant vetting process been put in place yet? The travel ban was supposed to be temporary while a vetting process was designed and implemented. He is only still around because he is playing ball. Tell me this, what is trump doing that is really scaring the deep state? They have everything in place and the only thing missing is getting Americans to the point of civil war and it appears to be coming soon. We are living in the end times. Nothing has changed and there is certainly nothing new under the sun. Remember the 2012 primaries and how everyone was soooo excited about the GOP taking control? I said then that no positives changes would be made that benefited the American people. You will get a few crumbs but nothing substantial. Truly, what have you gotten. Sure hillary is awful and we dodged the devil we know. Beware the devil you don’t know.
James Grubbs
Unless of course he was divinely placed there and is being protected by the hosts of heaven and prayers of the saints. Riddle me this …..
Who just ended CIA funding of Jihadis in Syria? … who negotiated a ceasefire in Syria with Russia? While the DC swamp pushes for war with Russia….one man stands in their way….I wonder who that is? The deep state is in a world of hurt as Trump enforces the discipline of God. Like I said before Indictments are coming…..
D.C. Is going to purged…..
This is going to be the biggest rope a dope in history
Shalom
*D.C is going to be purged
Trump will fulfill the will of the Lord and the Lord is not going to give a man like trump his glory. Many have been deceived and BTW, the CIA doesn’t need US Gruberment funding of any kind. Think about that. Another grand stand that really has no bite.
My apologies, My last reply to you sounded like a rebuke. If we were talking in person you would know I don’t intend on sounding mean LOL. What I said is just my opinion of course but it is what I see and I’ll even say I hope you’re right but I can’t count on that at the moment. Believe me, I’ve seen tons of stuff trump has done. Maybe the prayer vigils in the White House will or is making a difference in his life. I hope so and we will see.
Phanuel I truly believe what you just said. It is coming. We need to be a little more patient and prayerful. The man has incredible opposition from the evil elite and their bought and paid for MSN, but God and his people will secure victory in the end.
“and thousands of pedophiles arrested since January”.
http://www.anonews.co/seal-arrested-pedos/
Just because people don’t like the scenario in the dream does not mean it is not from the Lord nor does it mean it is not going to come to pass. Even should Donald Trump repent and be wonderfully saved, what is coming upon America will come. God is going to fulfill His Word and it is written in His Word what will come upon America. The Word must be studied- Isaiah, Jeremiah, Revelation and ask God for the understanding before they go sounding off. The time has come to bring a nation to repentance one way or another. I am not saying this, God is. The time has come for the final consequences of the choices that have been made to come about and God put Donald Trump there for this time. We may never know all the reasons why. They are many and intricately interwoven with other nations and with HIs purposes. God sets up Kings. But not for the reasons we like to think. God loves Donald. Christ died for sinners. He wants us to pray for him that he might be saved, not so he can make America great again. And this is the struggle I hear underlying many of the comments here on Z3. Many are still thinking through the flesh and earthly desires. We are spirit beings. Our flesh has to die, literally. We are to go on to the next part of our existence. This has been our training ground for what comes next. Next there will not be this world as we know it, and there will not be these bodies as we know them.
It can take some time and prayer for all that is revealed in a dream to be understood. Rather than literally representing himself in the dream, I believe Trump is the controlling Spirit over the nation. Particularly when you consider that Trump is not saved. He does not have the Spirit of the Lord , therefore he has another spirit which comes from satan. It is one or the other. God or the devil is in control there. God is allowing it. And Mena and her son may simply be representative of the body of believers or the people generally. For instance, Mena says in the dream that her heart is gripped with fear. Now I feel sure that Mena is not actually gripped with fear herself. Nor did she want to communicate that fear to us. We are not to get into fear. She was, I believe representing the general state of the people. They can see the nation running out of control and they are fearful.
There is so much more here to this dream that is worthy of study and Godly discernment. I feel certain we are being shown something important in the box with the star of David. And it would behoove us all to take some time before the Lord over it rather than jumping all over it in our need to prove we are on the cutting edge of all things spiritual.
Thank you Mena for your obedience in sharing and your faithfulness in sounding the trumpet. I know it is not easy to do so and I appreciate you so much and others like you who continue to do so.
Beautifully said. Thank you for sharing! ? God bless.
Alison, thank you for what is a gracious and true reply. Can I ask permission to cut/paste this, as we’re in discussion about all this on another site?
Sure Scoopie, you are welcome, such as it is!
Your comments are now on an article about how Trump is pressuring Israel (written by an Israeli), and it dovetails well with the subject. God bless you sis.
May I have the link please, scoopie?
I’ve used the quote a few times; this is the newest..
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/66475-was-i-wrong-about-donald-trump
Allison,With all due respect,I dont think I would feel comfortable saying Pres.Trump has another spirit which comes from satan…I mean if you had entered the council of heaven and you were shown that……Sadhu is a prophet of God ,no doubt…He entered into the council of heaven…He did not attribute to Trump an evil spirit…He (God) said that Trump was as a Cyrus to Him,Trump would be his Gods mouth and hands….that would also mean that you are cotributing Trumps words and acts to a evil spirit….even if God used Trump to bring judgement…..it would ba as he(God)is doing this…speaking in love,I do believe we need to be careful of what we say about Gods vessels or we may find ourselves fighting on the wrong side…You know …..
Hey Diana,
If you aren’t saved then technically according to scripture you are in the Kingdom of darkness which makes Satan your king. There are only two spiritual forces at work in this world, light and darkness. You are either one or the other. I believe that is what Alison is referring to. If the spirit that is guiding you isn’t the spirit of truth, it has to be the spirit of error. Now I don’t presume to know Trumps spiritual state but he does mention God a lot and it just doesn’t line up with what I know of the God of the Bible. Some could reach the conclusion that he isn’t saved, therefore he follows the God of this world. As we know from scripture God uses whomever he chooses to accomplish his purposes. It could be that he isn’t saved but he may be at some point or it could be that he is a baby Christian and lacks scriptural knowledge. I think he has enough supposed evangelicals around him that he should be well schooled in what true christians believe and I think he is too smart a man not to have searched that out. At any rate I believe God has chosen him and will use him to accomplish his purpose. In the Old Testament there are numerous examples of how God used evil spirits and lying spirits to accomplish his purposes. Just a thought.
Yes Lydia, that’s what I’ma tryin’ to say, thank you. We are to know them by their fruit. In Trump I see pride, boastfulness, “I’m gonna do this, I’m gonna do that”. An accusing finger pointed at others, “fake news”. Does it sound like the man has had a transforming conversion? I’m not seeing it. Is he seeking out the company and counsel of the Godly? If he is, I am not seeing the fruit of it. When we get into Gods presence, WE ARE CHANGED! If we are not changed then we have not been in His presence. Yes, we still sin, we fall down here and there but we should look for a gradual upward line on the graph of a persons’ life. This is basic stuff. The Bible makes it clear what fruit look for . I don’t hear him calling for a national day of fasting and repentance. I’ll bet he’s heard Jonathan Cahns Prayer Breakfast speeches. These people (in Govt) are without excuse. They need to humble themselves before Almighty God, as do we all. Let’s pray that he gets to where he needs to get before God. And that he does it quickly before someone knocks his block off! I reckon they would be lining up to be first to do it.
And before someone jumps in and says I am not to judge, well yes I am actually, and WE are to know them by their fruit. Look out lest you be deceived by those who are, whether knowingly or unknowingly aiding and abetting the powers of darkness. I do think that Trump ‘means well’, in that he thinks he can do a better job of it than others have. I think he ‘recognises’ who God is. For those who have been shown that he is a Cyrus, I have no argument with that. But it should be remembered that Cyrus worshipped Marduk, he allowed the various religions to practice freely during his reign. He conquered Babylon and he freed the Jews. God told of his coming and his purpose. God used him for His purposes. All that means for Christians is that they can make hay while the sun shines because the Donald won’t stop them from doing God’s will. He is here for such a time as this.
Sorry for being so wordy today, I don’t enter into these discussions much. My hope and prayer is that someone will get something from this, some perspective perhaps and will stand back for a bit, process, pray and set aside their preconceived beliefs and ideas and ask God to show them how it is. Because it does matter what we believe. If affects how God can use us in the future.
But, Sister Alison, remember the parable of the wheat and the tares? The reason Jesus said not to weed out the tares, but to allow them to grow together with the wheat until the harvest is because, as He said, you would risk pulling baby wheat along with the tares. Baby wheat and baby tares look exactly alike until they are mature. When mature, the wheat stalks produce fruit, the tares do not. If the president is indeed born again, and a number of Believers around him say that he is, it was a recent commitment. He has no way had time to produce such fruit as you are talking about. And, as one who formerly worked for a Christian U.S. Senator for many years, I can say with absolute certainty that a number of the people the President is putting in high places absolutely are committed Christians, and a number of the people he has advising him are as well. Don’t think that because we don’t hear of things that it is not happening! We are being lied to by all sides! I should also say-I do not believe that ANY man can “Make America Great Again.” But I believe that the Gospel has not reached everywhere yet and many people who will be saved still need to hear. I believe that we, in America, have been briefly given more time to spread the Gospel, send out missionaries, pray for souls, and we need to repent and work while it is yet day before the door is closed.
In Christs’ Love
Thanks Kim, I agree with you, and I am probably expecting to see more signs than it would be realistic to expect so soon from poor Donald. Unfortunately we don’t have the luxury of time and all baby wheat needs some good nourishment to grow up quick. I like your wheat and tares reference. All of Matthew 13 has relevance here . We need to pray that whatever seed has been sown in his heart will be watered and fertilised well. God bless
I don’t see Trump acting or showing fruits of a Christian either. In fact my Christian co-worker is so appalled by his words and actions she went to vote for Biden, and I can see how satan’s scheme is working where my sweet calm co-worker Christian gets so riled up talking about Trump and I try to just keep my mouth shut so I don’t get sucked into this madness of divide and argument.
Kim, last week, I watched Jim Bakker say that Paula White led Trump to the Lord 16 years ago. If true, what is the fruit.?
Alison, our words matter very much as they affect and influence people. Our words are recorded for eternity and we will give account for them. There is more to be said here, but please know it is vitally important that we get before God and also do our research and get informed on a particular subject before we post on sites.
Alison I wish I could give you 100 thumbs up! If Mr Trump has truly been in God’s presence after four years we would have seen some change in his character. There was none. In fact, as scripture puts it he waxed worse and worse!!
Well spoken, Alison, what is sorely lacking in the Evangelical/Christian community is a deep understanding of the scriptures particularly in regards to biblical prophesy and to tell if any person has truly been sent by God or not! The lady who wrote about not judging has not been taught in regards to that subject or is ignorant about what the Apostle John wrote in: 1 John 1:1; Beloved, BELIEVE not every spirits, whether they are of God; because MANY false prophets are gone out into the world.”!!! It is our responsibility as God’s children to “TEST” every person/spirit that talks/claims to know God and supposedly acts in His name??? That is part of our Christian heritage, not an option to not use, God Bless your courageous comments, too many false prophets/teachers out there as Jesus states in the book of Matthew, how can we forget? God Bless you Alison!!!
With respect, Lydia, you and Alison use a lot of pious words to say very little. What have either of you done for the unborn today? Why don’t you speak out against those who want abortions up to and including the third trimester — this includes President-Elect, Joe Biden? Put fair weights on the scales you are using to judge the President — at least he stands with the unborn! If I sound harsh, bear in mind, all of us will have to answer the question: What did you do when my children were being slaughtered. Now is the time to start preparing that answer.
Paul,
I think if we all had the ability to see into other peoples hearts we would hide our face in shame to know that we judged them so harshly. God bless you. I can assure you there is nothing righteous about me except for the one in whom I trust who died for me. We should all be broken for the children, for the precious babies and do what is within our power to do to help them. I should have prayed for our president more and for the unborn. Let me be as the man that stands before the Lord beating his chest and saying Lord forgive me I am not worthy rather than the one who stands proudly thanking the Lord that I am not like the other person. My heart is crushed that I haven’t done my part. My hearts cry is to lay my life down for his name.
I’m with you, sister. I haven’t done enough for them. God bless.
Hi Saul (oops, slip of the keyboard), should read Paul;
Does a CEO actually write a policy? No, they merely sign their name to what their staff has written, as they find and address opportunities to “improve the corporate competitive state” (which in this case means gain confidence/votes). Every president must tend to keeping specific groups of voters and thus from time to time tosses them a bone, which keeps them happy and on board with his agenda. Such was done for the evangelical voter base; signing a law concerning abortion (and making it look like gay marriage just might be reversed in the Supreme Court – under “his” justices).
Likely requiring a new pen, which could not profane the magnificence of his signature (profane = treat as ordinary, that which is holy), he with a smug smile and a flourish of pen, which produces noticeably large, wide, dark script – merely signed a prepared document.
And the evangelical crowd bowed down, yet again – saying “President Trump, President Trump, how great are your works! How worthy are you of our praise!! Hosanna, for we are so blessed to be subjects, in YOUR nation.”
Further, you know nothing of the persons whom you accuse of being pious/hypocritical related to their activities to fight and address abortion. Within the church, few have done more than grouse “someone should do something” (to my shame, this includes myself). I notice that you’ve not presented your own considerable credentials in this area, by which you can hold yourself above others.
Matthew 7:3-5 would be a good scripture to review…
Hi Paul,
Perhaps no mention was made by Lydia or Alison about Biden and company in the comments you’re referring to, because the comments you refer to were made in the summer of 2017!
If this post was made recently, why are there comments from 2017????? I am confused.
just read more carefully and realized it’s a repost…..
Hi Diana, I appreciate what you are saying. If God told Sadhu that Trump would be His hands and feet, I suggest that just means God will use him to accomplish his purposes, just as he used Cyrus. You can see what I said to Lydia about this. We do need to be careful, we need to be very observant, look for the fruit and be wary, but pray for the man. And pray God has His way with Trump and with us. His Kingdom come.
I understand both sides of this discussion, but I believe we have much more serious situations coming our way. No person or president will be able to protect us from this satanic madness other than Jesus. And He should be our focus, not the attributes good or bad of our current president. Please read this article in Natural News.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-15-canadian-government-publishes-bid-request-for-programmable-hydraulic-guillotines-covid-19.html#
So true. Many of our government leaders have sold their souls to Satan. The Canadian PM is wicked on so many levels. If I was a Canadian I would be making plans to leave or go off the grid,
Phil
He has done so much good and my wife and I pray for him every day. Right now I believe he stands between us and very bad things happening. There is one issue I am concerned about and that is the promotion of a vaccine solution to COVID-19, which many doctors have said is not necessary – I have posted such info on my blog. I hope this is something that will change or it could be like following a wrong map to a dead end.
Agree, wisely spoken.
Alison Pound, i am not sure how you can say Trump is not saved, you do not know what is truely in Trumps heart. He is a President not a Pastor or Minister and he is new at christianity in the last few months. Did you walk perfectly with the lord when you were a new christian.
No one can say someone is saved or not, that is God’s place to make that determination.
“White House Prayer Sessions” are being held Regularly inside the white house with senior Trump admin officials including Trump. A well known minister / Pastor has stated Trump has accepted Christ as his savior and has prayed with him.
DebR the Lord spoke to me and told me to pray that Donald Trump comes to Him soon, that is where I am coming from. Also, the word tells us that we will know them by their fruit, which I did say in other comments below. He may well have made a commitment by now. Until I see the fruit of that or God tells me otherwise I will continue to pray for his salvation. God can say whether a person is saved or not, and He does. We, if we are His sheep know His voice. It is time for people to stop arguing this and that and start going to the Lord and hearing from Him directly. I am not suggesting my hearing is perfect but doing as the Word tells us and drawing near to Him that we might walk in His light. He speaks and guides and when we ask about something He will answer. Sometimes He says no, I will not reveal this or that. But many people make up their own minds about something rather than going to the Source. The hour is late, if we are not able to stand in unity, we will not stand at all.
I would be interested to know who this well known Pastor is. A whole group of well known church leaders got together and prayed over Trump before he became President. This same group have joined forces with the Pope and departed from the Truth. This is a time of great deception where things are not as they seem and many dark things are going on. Unless I hear from the Lord Himself about this, I must keep praying as for the lost.
my reply was not to you alison. and poo poo to the down thumbers…no one knows if trump is born from above or not but his fruit displays a negative aspect. he has reportedly (thro his family) removed christian influence from the white house and if it is true that he wasnt part of that, then he is complicit in shuttering them because he hasnt reversed the decision. heavens people – trump is not the, or a, messiah and he shouldnt be treated as such. he has been influenced by someone i think is dodgy, (woman pastor), his second wife is a kabbalist, his son is a chabbilst as is his daughter. surely he has been heavily influenced by these people??
Sadly you are blinded by conspiracy fake news. Do you want Obama back?
show me I’m wrong. back your comments up. how sad “Christians” are so deluded
Amen Allison! If youre not for the LORD then youre against HIM! Anyone who stands w the Pope under his unify man platform is no friend of JESUS
I also agree about the Fruit inspectors if there was growth we would see it. Anyone can carry a bible. Or learn christianese to reach the itching ears
But this is the same Trump who claims he has never sinned and says he doesnt need to be forgiven because he has never sinned
That is the doctrine of demons! FOR ALL HAVE SINNED and fallen short of the glory of GOD!
I do hope Alison pound returns to z3news. Com. I always enjoyed her insights and wisdom. I pray Lord Jesus that she is well,
Thank you Lord
Phil
and you believe the pastor? then why have they been cleaned out of the whitehouse? and further looking who was his mentor for a number of years? lastly – how do you know he is?
WHY do you think MSM is CONSTANTLY linking Trump & Christians (saw this on 3 separate articles tonight so it is top of mind….)????
WHEN the ECONOMY collapses, the housing, student loan debt, stock & bond market & auto loans BUBBLES burst, the U.S. Dollar is eventually devalued (60% following 2 separate devaluations), and the U.S. Enters GREAT DEPRESSION II & takes the whole GLOBAL MARKET with it, GUESS WHO becomes the scapegoat?
Christians & conservative values
THIS is what will bring in the GREATEST PERSECUTION of Christians of all time as people want BLOOD for their pain & suffering.
I have held off sharing this because of what it means to so many of us – SERIOUS harm & danger. However Julie’s Word tonight made me realize it was past time for me to share this. WE ARE ON THE DOORSTEP & Rothschild’s told us 30 years ago that we would have a new global currency in 2018.
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3055-trump-will-be-president-how-alt-market-predicted-the-outcome-five-months-in-advance. Brandon does not reference Christians being the scapegoats for the crash specifically but anyone with conservative values.
Expat Gal, So a more recent comment brought me back to this post, interestingly exactly one year later, and as I was perusing the comments I came across yours… As per Mena’s post, I believe Trump may have just driven off the paved road and onto the rough gravel as of this point..
But onto what you shared. I think it incredibly insightful what you proposed might be coming down the pipe. I know the great persecution is coming, but I didn’t know how it might… Our values are being attacked in the world, yes, but not to the point where family members would turn on one another. The darkness is getting darker yes, but not yet to the point of calling for our heads, (at least in the West). I also know the economy will crash, as the Lord has been calling many of us to prepare for the lean times ahead… BUT The way you laid it out was, for me, the proverbial ‘lightbulb’ moment. Putting the puzzle pieces together….
With regards to the Economist’s magazine cover from 30 years ago predicting the new Global Currency in 2018, your comment a year ago mentioning such predated the meteoric rise of cryptocurrencies late last year that seems to fit the bill. I find this all so very interesting as “blockchain technology” was not even a blip in the neuron passes of the unborn/baby/toddler/child brain of this mysterious Satoshi who came up with the Bitcoin concept…if he is a real person.
It makes me think about the woman in Wisconsin or South Dakota, Nancy Lieder, the supposed emissary of the alien greys, who have named themselves Zeta Reticuli (<–the name in itself points straight to Satan). Supposedly, as she notes, the Area 51 spacecraft crash was an alien sacrifice, which afforded our gov't access to their technology (ie fiber optics, etc) which in turn greatly increased our technological advances in the past 67 years. The fallen have been sharing forbidden knowledge since the antediluvian period, so that is no shock…
But the new Global Currency which arrived suspiciously just on time this year, at least in its global infatuation and adoption, seems the kind of ‘leap years ahead’ tech that might have been shared with us by the fallen (just as sending information through light via fiber optics).
Anyways your comment gave me pause, and I just wanted to thank you for connecting dots for me.
Many blessings Sister.
Oh my Alison! This prolific response was the bomb! I concur with all that you have said. Bless you!
Prophecy – Christian leaders defend Donald Trump
http://prophecy.world/2333-prophecy/
For the record … I strongly disagree with Mena’s stance on Trump. The Lord is doing a New thing. At this point if anyone still believes Trump is not on the Lord’s side (after all that has happened and continues to happen), I don’t know what else to tell you. Sadhu Sundar is a true prophet…listen to all his words on Trump.
Shalom
I also have great respect for Sadhu Sundar, but I have not heard him say much about Trump, probably because I don’t follow him close enough. Do you have any links to his messages on Trump?
Sadhu Sundar prophesied that Trump will be God’s mouth and hand for the nation, he will be used to clean and purify the nation, and he will used to discipline and Restore America. The D.C. Swamp and deep state are clearly in his cross hairs. Enter Bob Mueller who many believe is investigating Trump (wrong!), ….recent revelation is showing that he is playing a significant role in draining the swamp. Like I said the biggest rope a dope in history is about to unfold.
Shalom
I saw the video you speak. ..he said God will allow trump to win and he audience started cheering and he stopped them and said Hold on, he will.be used to purify. .there is a reason why he stopped them from cheering…this purification is for the world and the church…Trump wI’ll be used to purge the church….how he will do it is the ?
Sahran,
I agree with you. I watched that video as well. I don’t think we fully comprehend what it is going to mean to be disciplined and purified as a nation and as the church. It will come at a Great cost to those who have trusted in this world system.
In Isaiah, there is a passage about the judgement of God being poured out. After each stanza of the declaration of judgement, He declares, to paraphrase, “Im still not done yet…My anger is not turned away yet”. This is repeated three times in Isaiah 9.
“Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised.”
Isaiah 9:12b,17b,21b
Two things are prominent, God is speaking with His mouth and God’s hand is still upraised. This is how judgement emanates from God
Mouth and Hand
Isaiah 9 is a pronouncement against Israel. It says Ephraim will feed on Manasseh, and Manasseh on Ephraim, and both of them will turn against Judah.
Thanks Mem!
Amen.
Amen.
That sounds right to me. However, I am still sorting out what it means and how it plays out. More specifically, how it fits with the warnings so many have seen, including myself. I believe God is using Trump, among many others, to confront unrighteousness, but I don’t think the church gets a free pass. We have our own swamp to drain, which will likely require a whole lot of shaking.
Yes. I think even if we are not part of the swamp, we will have to go through purification. Only way to stand in His presence.
James,
In my heart, I feel uneasy about Trump. Even those who deceive can be guided by God for God’s purpose.
I see Trump doing only some good… but some bad too.
Once on Trunews a lady interviewed by Rick said Obama was being lied to set up. Obama thought he’d be antichrist but he was being lied to.
Now I’ve always tried not to say he is or isn’t…..
But as Mena Lee said in post..,,Trump may be giving (or appearing to give) us what we want….
I believe we are heading for judgement…, Trump my be a short term blessing or curse.. true followers are the only ones praying and even praying for Trump. So, many see him as answer.
My big question is…. is he the one that sets up everything to look good to asleep believers or will he really try to move on behalf of the people but get totally halted by the powers that be. Either way he could prepare the way for antichrist?
I believe Our Heavenly Father is allowing us to get many truths and yet is allowing us to miss many truths to keep the evil one in abeyance. For our enemy doesn’t get it (understand) until we get it. I truly believe that is why waiting and watching are so important for the true believer.
I thank you for all your posts i read every one.
I wonder these things, too, Deena. I think I am moving toward believing Trump will be the one to help the harlot gain the power (for a short time) that will persecute the true bride. Just a thought.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-subs_digest&v=gkGjryIrvfU
This is a link of Sadhu Sundar speaking in reference to Israel and the U.S this year. Very interesting.
it may be a case of the lord on trumps side rather than the other way around
Amen Phanuel.
Phanuel, glad to see you back, brother! It’s been a long time.
Ugh! This is an old comment by Phanuel. Sorry.
Hello Z3! I’ve been ‘following’ this site for a while (although silently), due to my interest in prophecy — the sound type which can be proven by Scripture, and not just shoehorned in, for ticklish ears. Now, having read https://z3news.com/w/this-is-how-im-going-to-lure-them-in/, I can’t help but sense that it is, at least in some way, confirmation to a video by Christian rapper BoldSojah4Christ. Here’s the link — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhmlSmxyfo
Jeremiah 17:5-9, KJV
5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord. 6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. 7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is. 8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf
shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Thanks to the King of the Universe, for sending His faithful servants ahead and warn us to pray and intercede, as well as be ever-vigilant. He is Faithful and True. ?
Thanks for the scriptures
You’re welcome, Deena. Have a blessed morning, afternoon, or evening. God bless
I think Trump is God’s choice to be used by God to clean and purify this nation from the corruption and wickedness we have permitted for decades. Inquire of God, pray for Trump and his family. Let’s not be unaware as to what God has spared us from. He is a baby Christian with a sinful past like we were at one time.
Donald = bushes/clintons/Obomber, same thing. Elites owned by the satanists.
America deceived by both parties and by themselves. Reject God and God
rejects the USA.
Except for the remnant saved at the end.
Amen Sue!!!
I do not believe President Trump would put himself and his family through a living nightmare if he was not sincere. He is also risking his very life with the Deep State plotting to remove him. We need to put our trust in the Lord only, but I appreciate the sacrifice of President Trump and his family and what he has accomplished and is still fighting hard to accomplish. This dream makes no logical sense to me. It also does not agree with my Spirit.
Killary or the Donald, same end result. The elites choose who we vote for (the same thing).
Amen..at first I would be arrogant when God kept confirming this but God has been convicted me ..pray for your brothers and sisters. .thank you also James for being obedient
What I believe Mr President is a good man BUT WALK IN HIS WAY, not God way (Proverb 3). He no need any advice or reference for he think he is smarter than all. He act will bring a nation go to wrong way.
Hi Rhonda, are you familiar with Trump’s books? He basically has the theory in play that all press is good press. It’s the attention and branding that matters. Now, granted, people are praying for him en masse to repent and receive Jesus, but he hasn’t told us he received Him (pretty hard to shut up when you’re born again, powerful stuff). There’s an article on Charisma News today about how Trump is putting pressure on Israel. That’s a big no no in the Lord’s eyes.
Yes Rhonda – Agree…. Trump has made a huge sacrifice and it will take time away from his businesses and likely cost him a lot more than he could have made. He has made a tremendous sacrifice to apply his abilities to help right the listing US ship in many regards and has been very effective in keeping many of his campaign promises. We certainly know he is way better than the Hillary alternative, and has likely bought us just a little more time and delayed the master plan of the NWO to implement their devious plans of world enslavement and domination….
However, I feel that Trumps efforts, although respectable, may only buy us maybe a year or less of a stay of execution before the first real judgment hits. Lets face it, although Mr. Trump has done more in the last 7 months than Obama in the last 2 terms, most US citizens don’t appreciate it and are grumbling, and they may just get what they deserve. A politically correct governance with forced financial servitude and slow steady march into a one world currency and God-less system…. Jacob’s troubles may soon be upon us this Autumn/Winter…..
Yes, John. I agree with everything you said 100%. It is very refreshing to interact with someone who has done their research and has one’s finger on the pulse of the important issues of our day. God bless you!
Rhonda: This is such an Orwellian time right now, but we never know, Trump could change later down the road, but for now, we have to applaud his sincerity and efforts to swim upstream. I continuously worry about Mr. Trump’s safety. May God bless you too…..
John did you happen to hear Al Gore’s comments to James Corden? They were very concerning. Personally I believe President Trump is going to go down fighting.
During the 2016 election I never wanted trump this dream scares me!
I might be wrong……..but I think Tabby meant she never wanted Trump to be the Republican Nominee…….not that she would have voted for Hillary, I too did not want Trump early on….but once he won the nomination, there was no other choice
I agree
I read this and i believe her dream to be spot on. Its not the mis direction its the plan. the journey he and we as Gods children are on. Its not the Gold of the jewelry its the star of david. The star of Gods chosen people Israel. He chose them because they chose him
We support them. Great dream why are you in fear? God provides what we need. Its her interpretation thats incorrect
Pray for Gods sight to see what he wants us to see his truth not mans. Hear what he wants us to hear.
??? It is not impossible, but I have strong doubts about it.
Without God, we/he can do nothing as the Scripture says (John 15:5). It is typical of the rich offering a carrot stick to delay discovery of being found out…..that is:
“I really don’t know what I’m doing” and this is because he doesn’t have God guiding him…….Really & truly in my opinion, all the photos ops with the Christian ministers laying hands on him I think might have been sincere, but he was really never on board with “yielding” to God………I say this because in one of his interviews, he was asked if he ever asked forgiveness from God, and essentially his answer was no. He also spent most of his life as a heathen left wing Dem, casino owner and skirt chaser, using foul language. So let’s not get caught up in the Patriotism that he gives us e.g. the jewelry in the Box. He can’t help himself from leading America away from her solution and answer as the dream indicated; which is God.
I think Trump is God’s choice to be used by God to clean and purify this nation from the corruption and wickedness we have permitted for decades. Inquire of God, pray for Trump and his family. Let’s not be unaware as to what God has spared us from. He is a baby Christian with a sinful past like we were at one time.
I believe this purification will come in the form of judgment.Trump will be God’s tool for judgment…the purification will come
Maybe we should get off of our high horse and humbly and earnestly pray for the President, Vice-President, and ALL our elected officials so that GOD’S WILL BE DONE in America (and not the will of fallen man and the Luciferian elite). I do remember in one of Trump’s interviews from 2015 (which was WELL BEFORE he won the Republican nomination and way before the election), Trump did mention not ever asking for or needing forgiveness.
*Well, I have a feeling things have changed since that 2 year old interview, at least to the point that our President is more open to consider certain spiritual & Biblical truths… especially since Trump has since gone through a BRUTAL fight, fake news stories with fake scandals, etc. Also, the one big skeleton in his closet (with the ‘locker room talk’ with Billy Bush from 10+ years ago) was brought to light and he did apologize for that. He did publicly admit that he was wrong. Of the two candidates, Trump DID publicly apologize for what he did wrong.
When did Hillary Clinton apologize and humble herself for ALL the skeletons in her closet again???
Okay, so that being said, we are ALL fallen; the human condition and sinful nature must be kept in check. We ALL need to repent. Lets earnestly pray for our baby-Christian President and that God would continue to use Trump for righteousness, truth, and justice. In Yeshua’s name… amen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUKXCb_IwcY
No one believes that we shouldn’t obey scripture and not pray for those in authority that we may live a quiet and peaceable life……for that I have done and will continue to do……But to call him a baby Christian maybe premature and a little naïve. I’m not at all against what you’re saying…….but I also know the condition of our Nation’s soul…….and the fruit of our Governments behavior and that of the Trumps………You are right that we should pray and put our hope in God……….but until there is real acknowledgment and repentance….. most of the political and patriotic rhetoric is just pie in the sky emotion. But yes, I will continue to pray…….and one doesn’t have to be high upon one’s own high horse to see the realities of any given situation and then make comment about them. Shalom.
But sister Mena said pray…like you said no one said don’t obey scriptures…those christians that are getting so defensive over this message just needs to simply take it to God
Yes, we are all fallen and we are told in scripture to not judge anything before the time. We are told to praise God at all times in all situations. I praise the Lord for everyone involved in this mess and for His hand protecting his believers. May we all submit to the Lord Jesus and His word and stop trying to figure it out for ourselves. Thanks, Alex. God bless you.
Exactly! You can sow, I can water, but only God can give the increase; we are to preach the Gospel, but only God/the Holy Spirit can convict people, including our officially elected US President, Mr. Donald J. Trump, to repent.
So, please pray for Donald & the Trump families to truly repent & to be led by the Holy Spirit!
Jonathan Cahn has some very interesting sharings about the whole Trump/Clinton scenario. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WomX3IpcF0
Revival/Spiritual Awakening is the church’s responsibility (at least to pray), we are to be thankful for this short reprieve, seek HIS Face, get busy with HIS Kingdom business, and ignore all fruitless political drama/nonsense.
Best,
Ming
Amen!