Recent Revelations for the Equities Market

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I’ve thought about the recent revelations for the equities market and feel like I have some understanding on how it fits together. This is not trading advice, but only my best attempt at synthesizing the Lord’s messaging to me. I decided it was best to portray this in a 15-minute video. Click the link to watch.

 

 

Jim Reeve

Author: Jim Reeve

Jim Reeve is Professor Emeritus of the University of Tennessee, College of Business Administration. He is the author of articles and textbooks in finance and accounting. Eight years ago the Lord invited him to an “adventure” that would require leaving the university. He did, and so began his entrance into the Holy Spirit school of prophetic trading. The Handbook of Prophetic Trading is a culmination of the lessons learned in that school. He presently works to apply prophetic trading principles in cooperative team-based settings. It is his desire to see the anointing expand, and teams to multiply in preparation for the end times.

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Phanuel
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Phanuel

Sorry Fam
In hospital as our newborn decided to make his entrance 2 weeks early. Named him Phanuel Joseph ❤️🙏🏻

Shalom

Chloe
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Congratulations! A lovely name.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thanks family. Truly a blessing from God.
Shalom

faith
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faith

What great news P! Congratulations on your new blessing! Love the names!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Faith
Lord bless !

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Congrats Phanuel! Prayers for your family for good health, sleep:) and smooth transition/adjustment:)

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you MM
Amen and Amen
Shalom☺️☺️

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Chloe, I wonder if PJ was the newborn baby in your dream:)?

Chloe
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Yes! That hit me the second I saw Phanuel’s good news this morning! I just left a comment in the original thread of my dream. I am trying to figure out what “5 min” means. Well, the bus will soon take all to the banquet. I now remember there was music playing in that place as well. It was a beautiful banquet.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Chloe, I’m trying to figure out the fives. It keeps showing up. What if: 5 is five trading days? We have breached 2171 so (again,IF) we are in the first leg down, and that leg started on Tuesday morning, then today is Day 4. That means there is only one day of down movement left. Tee-time (JR dream) is “before 5” so that means today is the last day to enter a trade. There is a lot of revelation about a heavy move down, pre-market, which might be the last day (upcoming Monday), and the 2nd leg. The two trees I saw in my dream, the first was short and squat, more like a bush, which would describe these last 4 days, at least so far The other tree was taller and more vertical. That would fit with a sharper move down as the 2nd leg. This is total speculation…..but if it proves out and Monday is a heavy down day, I will prayerfully consider exiting my short position late Monday. If I’m not understanding the “5’s” correctly, then it will end up completely different.

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Chloe and SNS, Chole and I had the five reference the same night so if it was 5 trading days then it could start 24th (morning after dream)and puts us at 30th for possibly end of this drop and then JR to go bullish with his tee time. And Ph said 7-10 trading days and he started his drop off the rafters Tuesday? So that would be 31st for 7 days. Of course these are not set in stone thoughts at all just adding some thoughts. I think there will be more revelation to make that clear before that time if that is the case. I’m still wondering about the whole 2 leg drop vs. hangman timing. But I need to go over my oil dreams as that is where I was originally led to focus to prepare for going long oil…I think the same one referenced in Denikas dream.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Forgive me, but I’ve had ZZ Top’s song going through my head today:

She got’ legs (guitar riff)… and she knows how to use them… (the rest of the lyrics, lets just ignore). Sometimes I think I get little snippets of song tracks and it’s God trying to point something out to me. Even ZZ Top!

So we’ve got legs too. And I want to know how to use them! Breaks / legs, as JR has pointed out in the video, are extremely useful markers for us in determining where we are at in these moves. I’m watching this carefully.

Jane NZ
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Jane NZ

It is from their album Eliminator

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

I like your thought process also on the 5, I think JR’s tee time was to go long (Greene) so if it’s a sharp move down Monday he could get his tee time in Monday.

Chloe
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Hi SNS, a good insight. I had the dream right before waking up on the 24th around 8am (Italian time) so I am not sure if we can start counting from the 22nd but yes I think we can think of 5 min as 5 days. I was supposed to be on the bus at a certain agreed time but was running late because I was helping somebody (male) with his newborn baby (male). He was supposed to be on the bus too but he had not prepared the baby for the trip. Phanuel called so I said I would be late just 5 min. We all got to the bus and went to the banquet. The bus trip to the place was almost instant. So this 5 min could mean 5 days in which one should get into trade and be out (coz bus leaves after that. No banquet). I am not in the market so I am not sure why I had this dream but I have prayed to be given something to help out z3 family because I felt bad for the long wait for 2nd hangman….. God bless you!

Jane NZ
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Jane NZ

Wow Chole. What a great dream! This is interesting to me because of the banquet. The rabbinical calendar has the next banquet more than a month away but the Torah calendar which I think has greater Holy Spirit witness and is aligned with the agricultural season and celestial calendar would place the Feast of Trumpets 2/3 Sept. New Years Eve (29 Elu 1/2 .) would then be the end of the Jubilee year and we could anticipate manifestations of this (end of captivities, financial restoration etc). Great to see the LORD pouring his oil of joy out on you!!

Chloe
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Very interesting Jane. If the newborn baby I saw in my dream were Phanuel’s boy, then 5 min (5 trading days) would put us on Sept 1 to be the deadline to be on the bus and then the banquet (2nd hangman?) on Sept 2! God bless you!

Jane NZ
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Jane NZ

The LORD bless you Chole! I think this was a very impt dream for a pivotal moment. Never underestimate the power of your testimony to led others to Yahushua. The LORD make you brave, bold and fearless and pour in as you pour out. ‘Favour’. Don’t worry what others think, as you receive, give, receive, give.

Chris A.
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Amazing how the pieces are coming together. Considering that Phanuels son was born 2 weeks early.As phanuel says,everything has an appointed time. BTW congratulations Phanuel on the birth of your son.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Chris, ha ha, I forgot about the appointed time. Sometimes God’s timing catches us by surprise!

Chris A.
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Agreed LOL

Jane NZ
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Jane NZ

He saith among the trumpets, Ha, ha! And he smelleth the battle afar off, the thunder of the shouting. In Job 39

mike kasten
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mike kasten

you got the word in you jane. i love it

Jane NZ
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Jane NZ

Thanks Mike. I really love The Word but I missed out the thunder ‘of the captains and’ the shouting’. God is just so funny and amazing! He is always making me laugh!!

Chloe
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just found out Sept 2 (counting 5 min – 5 trading days from the P’s newborn) is the job report day…. maybe that is the buffet!

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Very well could be:) I have had two dreams with Friday night meals dealing with shorting…I am looking at this Friday and also Sept. 23 (that one has more maybe to do with metals turning I think)…will be looking for more revelation and confirmation.
It seems to be lining up that this week is for a mini second hangman and possibly then to enter into the long bull run. I have been led to prepare and watch for that bull run, hoping to get in on that especially on oil:)! That would be super cool if this lined up with your 5 min/newborn baby dream:)! How He would knit it all together like that:) Riding the bus the same night:) and celebrating the newborn baby together:)!

Chloe
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Yes I find it amazing you and I had the dream of phanuel on the bus and number 5 on the same night! I just woke up and I had a short dream of looking at a computer screen and watched Nikkei falling like crazy(?). Not sure if this is for this mini hangman or the next big one. I just remember thinking “oh my gosh it is happening”. God bless you!

Corrine
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Hi Mrs. Morton, how do you play oil, with an etf? I’m not into puts or calls just wondering your thoughts.. Is oil going up or down? Blessings, Corrine

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Hi Corrine, I do not trade anything:), my husband puts all the trades in, I simply give him my dreams and he and I both conclude based on His leadings to us and revelations received from Z3ers:) My husband is also learning on how to best trade oil. Below is J R’s response to us when we asked him the same question you asked me:)! Hope this helps you some:) I cannot say oil going up or down, I am simply watching for revelation for what I believe is to be a long bull run on oil possibly that same time frame as the 60 day bull run in the market after the 2nd hangman…I believe it will break resistance and be sitting on top of the oil tank like Denika’s dream. From J R: “I presently trade straight ETF’s on oil, UCO (Bullish 2X) and SCO (Bearish 2X). I don’t trade the newer 3X oil ETF’s because they have more volatility than I wish to handle. The oil VIX (OVX) is twice that of equity (VIX), so oil is already a “2X” to begin with. Anyway, you asked about options. When I do short term options on oil, I use USO. I do those for unique setups involving fast moves in short periods of time. I do not do options on leveraged ETF’s because the option premiums already incorporate the additional variation, so there really is little advantage to using options with leveraged ETF’s compared to a non-leveraged ETF’s (except in rare tail moves). I plan on using LEAP’s on USL when the time comes for the big move up that I see out in the future. The oil futures roll decay from backwardation on USL is less than USO, so is a better longer term option vehicle, but… Read more »

Phanuel
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Phanuel

MM/Chloe
President Poroshenko is heading to Mariupol on August 31st… the 5th day of your dreams.

Shalom

Chloe
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Thanks Phanuel. I can’t seem to find any news about Ukraine. Just saw Hollande (french president) said the tension in Ukraine is real or something like that. Do you believe, according to your intel, something is about to happen there? Blessings!

LonK
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LonK

Hello Chloe,
I live in Kyiv, what would you like to know? Two online news sources are here; http://censor.net.ua/ , and, http://www.kyivpost.com/

Chloe
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Wow we also have a z3er in Ukraine! Just wanted to knoe how serious the confrontation with Russia was! Thanks! I also have a friend from Ukraine here in Italy. Blessings!

LonK
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LonK

Chloe,
The situation in Ukraine is an odd one. The ongoing war in the SE has been called a ‘frozen conflict’. Efforts to draw up a conclusive peace treaty haven’t been successful, so fighting continues sporadically. In Kyiv and most of the rest of Ukraine, life goes on as normal. Last month I was at a resort on the Black Sea about 40 miles from Crimea which Russian now controls. Everyone was focused as usual on taking their summer holiday.

Putin is a chess master and like the Chinese, plays the long game. He’s massing his troops on the border and when the U.S. is distracted with some other future crisis, he’ll try to take more of the southern coastline. I’d guess at least to Crimea, and ideally all across the southern coast to Moldova.
Corruption still drives the politics, as it does in the USA, it’s just less sophisticated.

The evangelical church is very alive in the country and praying for those believers is one way to push back against the forces that would love to create chaos and bloodshed in Ukraine.

Chloe
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Wow I hardly hear anything about ukraine on the major news sites so thanks for the detailed update! My ukraine friend told me that people were still rather “conservative” and appreciated good traditional values there. Great to hear the church is alive and on fire! Not so much here in Italy I am afraid. (My impression of past 6 years). We have much to pray for in this continent! May God bring an almighty revival and wake up all that are sleeping!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Chloe
The dream was about a blessing and gift we are to receive from God. I am to pay attention to the movements of Poroshenko. I googled and found he is visiting Mariupol tomorrow. So I’m expecting a gift tomorrow. In this dream, I saw the late Benny Hill walking very fast (fulfilled yesterday), then I saw a woman sitting down as I went over a slide (fulfilled today). I then proceeded to the 13th floor and saw Poroshenko walking (there was an association with the Gregorian Calendar). I walked into a class and sat at the back with my friend Matt (gift of God). The front of the class was filled with tables and just a few chairs.

shalom

Chloe
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Thanks Phanuel I really appreciate that you reply to everyone despite the lack of sleep. I agree we should see something this week. 31st is 5 days after 24th and sept 2 is 5 days after your newborn so either of these dates might be the day of celebration! Just the other morning (30th) i had a short dream of nikkei falling. Reminded me of mrs. Morton’s hairdresser nikki at 9am! Blessings!

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

I also thought of the Nikkei market when I had the Nikki dream as I’ve had another dream a while ago with a hair salon clerk telling me to try the Nikki brand hair product as it’s cheaper. Maybe we are to watch the Nikkei. It has been in down tend since that dream on the 10th. Or My dream could mean just to go short since Nikki has done my hair in the past but your dream makes me think more so the actual nikkei.
Thankful for your posts!:)

Chloe
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Hi mrs.morton. just saw this article. Maybe related to my nikkei dream and your nikki?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-09/get-ya-popcorn-ready-markets-are-paralyzed-uncertainty-rbc-warns-spook-story-arrives

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Yes Maybe. Thanks for sharing, although I must be honest, I don’t understand much of the market language talk ha! I would say I am pretty clueless and learning, that is why I don’t do any trades, my husband does ha! I only get revelation in dreams and share:). But I did feel the Nikki dreams I have had may refer to the Nikkei and your Nikkei dream makes me think that more so.
How about today!?! Wow, I still think we are on that bus ride:)…just happens a little bit different than we planned and will be having the buffet in due time:).

Chloe
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Hello Mrs. Morton! Today Nikkei fell a lot. maybe this was it? I had the dream of Nikkei sliding on August 30 and then the oil falling on Sept 5. so maybe next to see is the oil pretty soon? Blessings!

Mrs Morton
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Mrs Morton

Yes sounds right and watching for it!

Chloe
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Yes it looks like 5 trading days from the dream indeed! Amazing ☺….

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Chloe
It’s looking very promising…I’m still watching for us to stay below 2161.., the last two times it climbed back up ( a few weeks ago and last Friday). Oil is also tumbling.

Shalom

Chloe
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Ha! Goes back up after europe closes as usual…. If not today then maybe it’s this Friday!

William
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William

Hi Chloe
Just read Mike J’s comment — talking about the blast off could be Thursday Sept 1, https://z3news.com/w/revelations-equities-market/#comment-61220,
You said Sept 2 is the job report day.
If indeed the blast off happen on Sep 1, then Sep 2 good job report come out — then market straight away up again. It may make this blast off on Sep 1 a one day event.
Just a thought. I have no idea blast off happen on Sep 1, or Sep 2. Anyway, they are close enough.

Chloe
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Yes William. Something to watch out for. I am not sure if 5 min means 5 days windows to get on the bus (deadline sept 1) and get out by sept 2 or 5 min to get on the bus (get in by sept 1). They say if job report is very good it will strengthen rate hike chance in sept and market may fall. Blessings!

William
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William

Hi Chloe
I re-read your post about this 5 days windows to get on or get off the bus. As the market happened, Sep 2th is the date good to get on the bus of going short. Phanuel and JR seems to imply that to get out of bus of shorting on Sep 8th Thursday. In your dream, do you anything about this?

Chloe
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Hi William, in my dream we all went tl this place after I got to the bus with Phanuel and a group of people (5 min late because I was helping with a newborn of somebody). When we arrived there, there was a banquet with buffet and soft music. I also remember seeing a gigantic library full of books and there were 2 sections of the banquet rooms. I wish I remember more but that is all I remember!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Chloe
You are on the right path. Phanuel is the archangel set over the repentance of men and those who will inherit internal life (Book of Enoch). That name came to me in a dream together with Isaiah 44. My last name was transformed to include Phanuel. Jane is right .. This dream is surely part of your destiny to lead people to repentance and turning their hearts back to the Lord God Almighty. The new born is symbolic of this destiny. Phanuel called … Meaning “a calling from heaven”. It seems the beginning (new born) of this phase of your life is tied to this Z3 banquet.

Shalom

Chloe
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Oh wow!!!!!!….. I am really really really a nobody so I am not sure if I am the right person but I would soooo much like to accept this calling from the Lord! I know 99% of my friends, husband, family are lost and need Jesus! Thanks Phanuel and Jane NZ.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Chloe, then you are perfect for the job. New wine, for the wedding, in an earthen jar…. Be blessed.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

*eternal life….,

Kathy Culver
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Kathy C

eternal life —is— internal !!!

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

Chloe, I missed this the first time around. I just wanted to add that I think Phanuel has the interpretation. It’s a neat dream for you. There are a lot of newborn dreams happening right about now because the Lord is releasing something individually and corporately at the same time. The market stuff is just a sliver. There are Jeremiah calls to national repentance combined with Noah calls to build an ark. They are all occurring at the same time as we work together. JR

Chloe
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Thanks JR! Yes, I read Phanuel’s interpretation (and Jane’s) and I am still trying to “digest” it because I see my great shortcomings for such a call. That night before going to bed, I prayed about the interpretation because I was worried about my incompetencies and immaturity then all of sudden I heard (?) “You are My child”. I got sort of bewildered (honestly even a little spooked) and shot up in my bed to check if anybody was around. I really have to grow up in my faith to receive this call. I am always reminded of Diana’s previous post that said “at current state many of us are useless” (paraphrased). I am currently praying to God to teach me how to pray! (I don’t really know how). God bless you and I really appreciate all your dreams and interpretations. I read them all to learn even though I am not a Joseph!

Chloe
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sorry, *lifted my head up”, not “shot up”

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Chloe!!!
Shalom sister

Andrew
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Andrew

Congratulations!! New life is great!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Yes it is Andrew
Thank you !!

TomP
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TomP

Phanuel- That is AWESOME! Congratulations!!

Blessings and health to your family!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Amen TomP. Thank you
God bless you brother!!

TAJ
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TAJ

congrats

Mikey H
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Mikey H

Congratulations !

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thanks you DJL, Ivan, and Mikey H
God bless!!

DJL
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DJL

Congrats Ph!

Stirred-not-shaken
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Stirred-not-shaken

Wow, congratulations!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you SNS
A blessing!

Joe K
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Congratulations Phanuel – wonderful choice of names!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Joe K
He is a blessing!

Ivan
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Ivan

Congratulations Phanuel. You are blessed.

Nick
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Nick

Congratulations Phanuel. Hope PJ and Mrs P are both doing well. Shalom

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Nick thank you brother!!

Sonia
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Sonia

Congratulations Phanuel ! Beautiful choice of names ! Blessings !

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Sonia!
Shalom sister!

Ed h
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Ed h

Awesome brother!!! Hope mom is doing good.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Ed h
My numbers brother
Thank you !

John Smith
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John Smith

P – Congrats on the new addition to your family!!!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Mr John Smith!
Hope you are staying safe.
Shalom

John Smith
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John Smith

P – Yeh, trying to stay safe and focus on the coming event…. Top on the new moon/solar eclipse (9/1) is looking likely (2204 ES), IMO. I remember the little sleep I got after my son was born back in 2000, but well worth it……

By the way, I have thought long and hard on your Pizza dream and have an interpretation for you and Z3. I compared it with my observation of the chart patterns playing out and other patterns on the RH side of the dome. The more I look at it, the more I see it playing out like 29/87, and the time to eat Pizza at 10:30, is the middle of October 2016 for the Wave #3 down (infamous third hangman). Final day to short is likely Friday 10-14 for those not already on. I’ll already be short 70-80% by that time, but looking at the final add at that time (buy Rosh Hashana & sell Yom Kippur). Best to you and the little one and mom too……..

Elaine E
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Elaine E

What a Wonderful Harvest you have reaped! Congratulations and God Bless!! Know that Phanuel Joseph is mightily blessed with parents like you and his mom, and His Papa God!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Amen Amen Elaine E
Shalom!

Gary Lee
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Gary Lee

Congratulations Phanuel!
Psa 127:3
Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. GB

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Amen Gary Lee. amen!!

William
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William

Congratulations Phanuel ! A very joyful event in your life! In Jesus’ name, I pray that God give him the same gifts you have from God and a faithful servant to God.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Very nice William
Amen
Shalom!

Timothy
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Timothy

So happy for you and your wife Phanuel!
Timothy

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Timothy brother !!

serge
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serge

Congrats P on the new baby !

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thanks Serge.
Shalom brother

P.s I saw (late) you asked a question about Monday. Please refer to my answer to Taj today.

Kathy p
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Kathy p

What a blessing! Congrats to you and your wife! Enjoy every moment!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Kathy P
Shalom!!

Charles
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Phanuel – All the best to your family and many blessings for health and wisdom!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you C
God bless my brother!

Wayne C.
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Wayne C.

Congrats, Phanuel!

Blessings to you and family, Brother.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Wayne C
Shalom brother!

ChristineB
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Phanuel, may you and your wife continue to be saturated with His divine wonder, grace and light as you embrace your precious heavenly gift ! Congratulatory blessings.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

ChristineB
Very nice. Amen sister!!
Shalom

Prism
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Prism

Congratulations Phanuel!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you P!!
Shalom

DavidM
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DavidM

Congratulations Phanuel! God bless you and your family:)

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Amen DavidM thank you !!

Elaine E
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Elaine E

Phanuel, do you have a Paypal Account, or some other way that a birthday gift could be sent to your family?

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Dear Elaine,
Thank you! All we need is your fervent prayers.

Shalom sister.

david
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david

Phanuel,
Congratulations :), May the Lord Jesus bless the baby abundantly, my brother

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Amen David
Thank you !!

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

Phanuel, congratulations to you both…..what a wonderful gift and a beautiful name. Be blessed.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Aris. Love your name too!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Z3 family
Wow thank you again for the well wishes. I feel like I abandoned you since yesterday, so I shared. You are very kind and loving.

Shalom

Thia
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Thia

Congratulations!! What a blessing!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you This!
hope you are doing better!
shalom

Eliana
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Eliana

Congratulations! Children are a blessing. <3

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Yes they are Eliana. Thank you !!!
Shalom

Cassiopeia
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Cassiopeia

Phanuel, may the Lord richly bless your wife, you, and baby Phanuel. That he will grow well, that he will be protected, that momma Phanuel will recover quickly and perfectly.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Amen Cassio! Thank you !
Shalom

Corrine
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Congrats Phanuel! Blessings to you and your family, wonderful news!!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Corrine
Lord Bless!!

Lynne NZ
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Lynne NZ

Many, many congratulations Phanuel and Mrs Phanuel and baby Phanuel 🙂
I had never realised how anti-aging having a baby is… but Phanuel, you just dropped 20 or 30 years in my picturing of you!!!! Your comments always led me to picture you as much older and wiser gentleman…obviously still much wiser but maybe not so much older!!!!!
Very, very happy for my now much younger brother!!!!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Lol Lynne Nz I haven’t even cracked 40 years yet ☺️☺️ (38 in September) Your comment made my day!!
Thank you and God bless

mike kasten
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mike kasten

O happy day. you are blessed. our worship leader just had a daughter 7 days ago and they are rejoicing as well.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Mike Kasten
We are rejoicing as well. We went for a routine checkup and the OB said..,,,, “Umm you are 5 cms dilated!!” By God’s grace it all went well. This was on August 25. Probably the 25 Mrs Morton saw with me.

Shalom

Jane NZ
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Jane NZ

Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them!! Laughing. How wonderful!!

Christian Block
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Christian Block

Congrats Phanuel!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Christian!
Shalom Brother!

Charles
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P – Was Joseph scheduled to be born on or near your birthday?

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Charles
Yes on my birthday

Cam
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Cam

Congratulations Sir! I pray the Lord blesses you and your family in ALL areas of your lives and that you are used in a mighty way for His kingdom. Thank you for all your contributions to Z3 Phanuel.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thank you Cam and Amen!
Shalom brother

Jemba
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Jemba

Phanuel, accept my late congrats. I just saw this. I’ve been in and out of z3 for a while and I can’t believe I missed this post. Big congratulations. You are blessed. I also have 2 little ones under 4 years so I can relate. I bet you are not sleeping but that’s okay …

Rob Perrett
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Rob Perrett

Good evening Z3, blessings to you all! I’ve been quiet for quite some time, but I have needed to cut back on things to get my health in order. This is happening, but it is taking time. I am now back in Australia where I’m relaxing and continuing the journey back to health. I am improving week after week which is great, praise God. Please do keep me in your prayers as this isn’t over yet. I am currently praying about how to spend my time, upgrades for Z3 being a part of that.
God bless you all.

Mikey H
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Mikey H

Hi Rob,
Great to hear from you. I’ve been concerned about you brother. Rest up, kick your boots off, relax, and get your strength back. Praying for you Rob ……

GOD Bless.

Sujit Thomas
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Sujit

Thanks for the update, Rob. I will pray for you.

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Been praying for you! Will keep praying, great to hear of health improvement!

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Good to hear from you Rob. Will continue to keep you in prayer. Shalom brother !

Charles
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Rob – Praying for you brother!!!

mike kasten
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mike kasten

it was great to see your picture pop up after so long,

Wayne C.
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Wayne C.

Welcome back, Rob.

May the Lord continue your healing.

I’m praying along with other members of the Z3 Family.

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

You are definitely in our prayers Rob. Colder weather helping??? Can’t tell you how tired I am of our winter this year…..bless you!

Ed h
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Ed h

Aris,
Sunny and 83 here in Southern Calif today.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Ah, so you’re in an “unsafe” zone, eh? I know exactly how you feel. Led to be or stay there, but not necessarily comfortable with the concept.

Ed h
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Ed h

SNS,
Yes I guess it is unsafe. I have not been led to leave . I have prayed about it but not too seriously. I know I’m under his protection and if it’s my time then I’m ok with that. I don’t live in fear or have anxiety about things to come. I know in the end we all win , if we make it out alive or die trying we all win. Maybe that’s too simplistic of a view but it works for me.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

I don’t think that’s overly simplistic, because that’s the reality of it. We serve at the Master’s pleasure and listen for His voice. If and when it’s time to move he’ll let us know I guess.

Ed h
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Ed h

SNS,
Yes he will. I live an hour north of San Diego and an hour south of Los Angeles. I live in Murrieta it’s the next city over from wine country Temecula. Was a small town when we moved here 18 years ago but now it’s grown to over 100k . It’s still got the small town feel even though it’s not anymore.

The part that worries me the most is unlike many on Z3 most all people are so unprepared for what’s around the corner.

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Ed h, you’re too kind. I’m not ready for much of anything and will need a $ breakthrough to pay for prepping, let alone being a Joseph. But little seeds grow, so eventually it will amount to more, and who knows what God has in store for us?

The trick however in prepping in places like CA, is that there are shorter-term disasters we can prep for (earthquake) where 30 days might work ok, but if there is a need to get away because of war, preparing gets really tough. You have to have somewhere designated by the Lord to go, and then you either have stuff set aside at that location, or you have to somehow haul it there which is problematic. Getting out of California could be really hard, too, because most of the population is on the wrong side of mountain passes which can get snowed in if maintenance crews are out of commission. Western OR & WA have a better option getting East via the Columbia river gorge. I trust in time God will give us all a good plan, based on how events play out.

Ed h
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Ed h

SNS,
Just having the assurance of Gods love and mercy is all we need. I think anyone who is spiritually awake and mentally prepared for what might be coming to America is way better equipped than a non believing prepper out in the woods.

DJL
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DJL

I am in San Diego myself as well

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

Ed and SNS –

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
1 Cor 2:9

Our hearts are prepared, now we watch the miraculous. If we were fully prepared for any disaster we wouldn’t leave much room for the miraculous.

Bless you guys…..

stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Thanks Aris.

Mar R.
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Ed h. I am not too far from you (North Orange County) and my parents are in Menifee. We have told to stay, so we stay! God will have to be our defense here, but He always has been and always will. The best “safe zone” is in obedience to what He asks us to do! 🙂

Ed h
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Ed h

Mar,
We moved out here from San Juan Capistrano. Yes it was my idea. Why I can’t remember but we are looking to move back to the beach area near Carlsbad or Leucadia. It’s too hot out here for me and my wife loves the ocean too. Her favorite spot is Crystal cove beach.

Mike kasten
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Mike kasten

Sunny, humid, and hot here in Tampa bay area

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

Ed, that is called ‘teasing’. You probably have lovely weather all year round, which is really not fair. Bless you anyway….

Ed h
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Ed h

Arid,
Yah but you guys have right hand drive cars I’m jealous. I want one

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

You need a ‘right hand drive car’ gene for that. If it’s missing from your molecular structure you have no hope….go to Father for that one.

Ed h
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Ed h

Sorry Aris my phone auto corrected I spelled your name wrong.

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

I figured that….I hate autocorrect….it thinks it’s smarter than me.

Ed h
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Ed h

Rob,
I too am keeping you in my prayers. Keep fighting and thanks for all the work behind the scenes. God bless you

Phil - sydney
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Phil - sydney

Hi Rob
Welcome back. Missed your wise comments. Hope you make a full recovery very soon, phil

Kristina
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Kristina

Rob, you’ve been on my mind a lot and I’ve watched for a post praying for your health. Thank you for all you do for Z3. It’s wonderful to hear your health is improving. We will continue to lift you up brother! God Bless you and I ask Abba to send ministering Angels to your side.

Congratulations Phanuel on the birth of your son. God Bless you and your family. You build us all up with your faith & wisdom. Thank you.

Martin
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Martin

Market direction without knowing the time frame is useless imo. With all the prophesies posted the Lord has not revealed a timeframe. Many dates were set for a crash that have come and gone, now we hear of a 2 month bull run coming again. I invested (my own fault) and to date am down Over 60% on FAZ and uvxy. Without a precise word from the Lord on the timing this wealth transfer is a crap shoot at best. I believe when God gives revelation of upcoming events there is no confusion, since he is not the author of confusion. He wants his people to succeed. I personally have difficulty with cryptic symbols that need a database to possibly interpret the meaning. I mean no disrespect to the labor of people on this site, we all want the same thing, but God has always spoken to me in a clear concise manner, also my wife is a prophetess. Her words a sharp and directed. In hindsight it would have been better to sit this out on the sidelines and wait for a definitative clear word when to get in. My wife told me not to go back in but I did I not listen to my chagrin. My loss only. Does anyone else feel this?

Ivan
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Ivan

Martin
I empathize with you. It would have been better to sit it out and watch for a while and see how things unfolded but the “it will be too late once the move happens in the FAZ rocket” lured us all in I think. Especially alluring is when all of JB’s preconditions materialized and, hence, were correctly! prophsyed. As we can see, we have not done very well at prophesying too many other things. A few hits here and there. Perhaps as JR says, we are in school and developing. As such, I do not take any prophesy seriously anymore but with a grain of salt. I am being patient and willing to learn and be a part of the group and add whatever insight I receive and am sincerely developing a deeper relationship with God. Best wishes to you Martin and all the Z3ers.

Ed Sain
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Ed Sain

I am trying to apply practical knowledge about trading to make a very modest “better than interest” income. This link is worth reading, regarding UVXY, although it does not help your predicament, and I have no answer either.

http://www.rickackerman.com/2016/08/why-volatility-gets-crushed/#commentform

“The change in behaviour of VIX and VIX future positioning has been driven by the emergence of VIX ETFs in the US
market. The three largest ETFs are VXX, UVXY and TVIX.”

Ed Sain
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Ed Sain
stirred-not-shaken
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stirred-not-shaken

Hi Martin I hear where you are coming from. I think of it similar to getting a personal prophetic word. For that, there are two rules: 1) it will already confirm something God has already spoken to you about, or 2) it will require you to confirm whether it’s from the Lord or not. There are countless train-wreck situations where people have run with someone else’s “word” for them without confirming it first personally with the Lord. With the equities, there is also a third layer – timing – that also has to be vetted personally with the Holy Spirit.

I believe a clear, concise word (“the move up will be Friday and we need to position UVXY on Thursday”) will never happen because then Esau can run with that, and get the blessing with Jacob. That’s why I think it’s hidden with layers and a wilderness experience to boot (I’ve lost on FAZ and UVXY too!). Anyway that’s my 2 cents on it.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

SNS Well stated. We might get that type of precision when we need it, and our heart’s can handle it. However, until that time we will see in part, have to rely on other people as well as our own hearing, remain in continuing dialogue with the Lord, progress in our individual school, and humbly admit mistakes and move on. JR

Nick
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Nick

Encouragement for fledgling Josephs: Dream this morning 25 Aug 2016: I’m in the front room of a Victorian terraced house – not my house – the room is bigger than I would expect, untidy, has been left for a while. Has the slight feel of a dentist’s waiting room. I put a pound coin in the parking machine then press the refund button and instead of coins lots of notes come out. £20’s and £10’s. I do the same with all the other parking machines in the room and the same happens. This is a lot of money. I pick up the seat cushion of a wingback armchair, look underneath and there’s a lot of money there too. £50’s, £20’s, £10’s and £5’s. I’m excited to see the £50’s, you don’t see them often. All the notes are old/ crumpled. There are also a couple of old/ crumpled handwritten notes amongst the money, on yellow lined paper which could explain where the money came from. I think one says it was for a wedding an old couple never made it to. I want to read them but know not to, it doesn’t matter/ it’s not for me to know. I put the money in my right back pocket, feeling slightly awkward but I know it’s the right thing to do. This is a huge find – it feels like millions. I’m happy because I can use it immediately to sort out our own finances which are in need and do other useful things, but I get an instant check in my spirit and the fear of the Lord – this money is holy to the Lord – it is his alone, to be set apart/ devoted to him. I can’t use any of it without enquiring of him first. Then… Read more »

TomP
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TomP

Nick…what a cool dream! Very encouraging! Definitely reinforces the theme that this transfer of wealth is for God’s purposes only. That’s not to say He won’t allow people to address their own affairs…just important that we take the monetary uses to Him first!

Charles
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Thank you Nick! God is in control and thank you for blessing us with your revelations!

Wayne C.
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Wayne C.

Nick,

Thanks for the encouragement, Brother.

We have certainly learned much on our journey together.

God bless you!

Aris - Melb
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Aris - Melb

“We (Z3) have heard with our ears
O God,
Our fathers have told us,
The deeds You did in their days,
In days of old…….”

“For they did not gain
possession of the land by
their own sword (intellect),
Nor did their own arm (works) save them:
But it was Your right hand,
Your arm, and the light of
Your countenance,
Because You favored them (Z3)”

Psalm 44:1 + 3

Charles
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For those of us Z3ers in the Markets – I just wanted to encourage those of us in the markets that this is the calm before the storm and that it is a divine point of time for those of us called to this “market ministry”. God is revealing much wisdom and exposing us to new levels of Gods grace and understanding that which the world knows nothing about. This calmness is divinely ordained by God for our preparation and stepping out to see His ways and draw closer to Him. Revelation without relationship is useless to God’s Kingdom and we must press into His presence and intimacy. He is inviting us to go deeper so we can receive his revelation and understanding. This is a critical time and I invite each of us to ask God for every revelation and gift He has for us. He is more excited about our destiny than we are. God wants us to learn and experience His nature in us so we will make decisions based on His nature and not our fleshly nature. This is a maturity process so we do not feel as if we need a “word” from God every time we need to make a decision. My wife and I raised our girls to make the best decisions by imparting our nature as parents ( and of course Gods nature as well) into their life. Now that they are older, they are making decisions based on the foundation on which they were raised. They don’t come to us and ask what they should do any more, as they are now young adults. This certainly does not mean they always make the best decision every time, but when they don’t, they know it very quickly. God loves to see us… Read more »

Johnathan
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Johnathan

Z3, I remember having a dream on Saturday morning. I saw a graph of the S+P. It started out with a move down, then an abrupt quick significant spike up to around where it started or maybe a little higher, then down some again, then small up and down movements for a short time, then a much larger move down(I thought to myself in the dream that this down move at the end was the second hangman). Then an audible voice said to me “After this all happens, there will be a market rally for 2 months.” Then I asked “What about oil?” The voice replied “It will come back down”, then I woke up. After thinking about this yesterday, I thought maybe it was just me thinking to myself in my sleep, but I remember having had a few dreams before that always come true, the most recent one being the S+P falling fast from the 2150s into the 2140s that I shared sometime last month, which happened on Aug. 2, and was a place to get out of my short positions now that I look back on it, but I didn’t fully understand at the time. So I decided to go back and read most of the dreams everyone has received in the last few weeks about the market and see if any of them could fit into this graph that I saw. Here’s what I found. I probably missed some of the dreams because there have been a lot of them and likely interpreted some things wrong, but it’s my best understanding as of now. If this graph happens, I’m not sure if it starts this week or not(wasn’t given any dates or numbers). For the first move down I saw before an abrupt up move, there… Read more »

James Bailey
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Thanks for this great summary Johnathan.

Prism
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Prism

As always, I appreciate your efforts to compile different words together. Great work. I am also intrigued by the statement that the bullish move will last two months after hangman. We knew there was going to be a strong bull move, but your dream adds a layer of specificity that will likely be very helpful in the coming months.

I am struggling to fit the pre-hangman bullish move many of us have seen into your dream. Perhaps that’s the spike up? In which case it would almost certainly go past the previous high before the preceding dip.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

Jonathan, I’m going to ask you to do me a favor. Draw this pattern out for a screen shot or take a photo and give us a link to the image. Others have suggested posting the image to postimage.org for link reference. I really want to see what you have with more precision. Thanks. JR.

Johnathan
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Johnathan

JR, it looked something like this. Let me know if this link works. I’m not 100% sure of the time scale, but it seemed to take a couple weeks at least to complete and it seemed it would be starting soon. I also knew when I saw the 2nd hangman drop at the end that the S+P did not go down to the Brexit low, but got relatively close to it. This probably explains some dreams of expecting a larger drop, but not getting one.

http://invst.ly/28xwn

Another thing I am watching is oil. Mrs. Morton posted on Jul.26 that she thought she had a dream of oil going up to $46 before going back down. It’s almost there right now. I expect oil will go down with the stock market and hit Phanuel’s remaining oil numbers. Phanuel has a Dow number at 17,189 and DJL saw a 17,150. I believe there is a good possibility of this being the bottom of the 2nd hangman for the Dow. The S+P has gone up more than the Dow since the Brexit low, so the Dow has been weaker than the S+P, which could mean the S+P won’t fall down as close to the Brexit low like the Dow could.

DJL
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DJL

Thanks Johnathan. When you saw the chart, I presume you saw only the part you drew in and it was not laid over the actual S&P chart? How did you know it did not go as low as Brexit? Just curious and trying to learn. Thanks.

Johnathan
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Johnathan

I did see it rise like it is doing right now right before the first drop, so it looked like a continuation of the S+P chart from around where we are now. It was like it scrolled over slowly as I was watching it and then stopped at the 2nd hangman low. I had what felt like a deep understanding that it did not get to the Brexit low. I don’t know the scale or the exact size of the moves, but I drew them the way they felt to me when I had the dream.

Charles
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Johnathan – Thank you for your efforts and we certainly all appreciate it. From what you were posting I drew a graph and it almost matched the one Jim has drawn as well so there must be some confirmation as to the trend once it starts, which I believe will be this week, Once it does start, we should at least now know what to expect in the next 2 months so we are receiving clearer revelations by Gods grace as we follow the graph.

Also, the graph James B saw on UVXY shows on your graph as the spinning that Jim R saw prior to UVXY shooting up like a rocket. Looks like that will be the second deeper drop or 2nd hangman and this first drop may only be the first hangman, if we don’t count Brexit, but Jim can interpret that better than me…

Thanks again Johnathon!

Jas
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Jas

Hi Johnathan,

Thank you so much for your sharing. Your graph looks reasonable. Awesome! Thanks again for your sharing.

James Bailey
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Johnathan, the market move you saw on July 20 was fulfilled on August 2, exactly as you saw it. I copied the following text from your July 20 comment:

“In the dream, I was watching the S+P. I had a feeling of it being in the morning, around the open, but not absolutely sure on that. I saw the S+P falling rapidly from the 2150s into the 2140s, then the dream ended and I woke up.”

This was fulfilled on Aug 2 when the S&P hit low of 2,147.58 and it happened exactly as you saw with a steep drop in the morning. So I am encouraged and paying attention to your new graph. It would be like a free bonus because it would be like a mini-hangman dropping to about 2140 prior to the 2nd hangman then coming all the way back up and dropping again to about 2040.

Johnathan
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Johnathan

Thanks for finding that James. If we keep going down from here, we could possibly expect your 667 Dow drop after the drop is done. If this happens, the Dow should get to around 18000. I’ll likely take some profits if it does that. I know that 667 drop is part of the puzzle.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

J. Super helpful. I agree with that near term pattern. I think I see that as well. It’s the two jets off the aircraft carrier. Two up moves separated by a counter move. The jiggle looks like the hangman spin. Then the drop. Thanks for some of you thoughts on the drop targets. I really don’t have those except for “feel”. JR

Charles
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Hi Jim – I placed my first trench at EOD with a few shares of UVXY and will see how tomorrow fairs. If we go sideways or drop a bit I will add a 2nd trench at EOD tomorrow with a bit more UVXY and add SPXS. If this turn is confirmed I will add a 3rd trench and add to my positions and also add FAZ.

I am not comfortable with the options as hedging yet because I don’t know what to look for or what you recommend, but for now I am watching it like a hawk. I started my 1st trench with about 20% of cash then will add another 20% then 40% more (80% total) if the trend is set, until the time to exit. Let me know if this is the correct mentality for trading based on your handbook. This leaves me with 20% cash at all times if I need to dabble in other trades and gives me some breathing room as profits are made and the account balance increases.

I am basing my positions on a shorts ( paints on a hanger) dream I had last week and going downstairs when I thought we were going up (shared that dream on this site) and then over the weekend I received a dream that was fuzzy to interpret, but saw clearly the date 8/17 so I am slowly stepping out on that for now because others seem to be confirming what revelations I personally heard. This will be a good test to see how God is guiding us through this crazy market. Thanks Jim for your guidance and teachable heart!

michael c.
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michael c.

Hi Charles, please help me understand where we are currently on Johnathans graph. Did you buy uvxy for first smaller drop?
Please clarify if we are now saying that we first have a smaller drop
(james 667) go back up and then hangman #2? Thanks

Charles
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Good morning Michael – We are not sure where his graph begins but looking to see if there is a confirmed drop getting established today. I bought a small number of UVXY stock just to test the waters today and then layer in more as the drop is confirmed. Hope that helps!

Ed h
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Ed h

Charles,
Sounds like a good plan. Don’t buy everything at once. See how it goes and adjust. I bought some Uvxy on Thurs at about $21 . Yesterday it went below $20. Today I’m watching it to see what happens. Gotta love it.

Charles
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Good morning Ed – Uvxy is up at pre- market but we will see what the data looks like in housing and other reports today to confirm what direction we are going….

michael c.
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michael c.

Charles,Phanuel,JR,JB, Z3.–On 8/7 Phanuel commented that he saw
S&P dropping rapidly from 2171. Just a heads up— maybe it fits with Charles 8/17 dream

Charles
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JR – UVXY seems to be responding very well today to just a modest drop. I received flash alerts from Weiss Research suggesting we are at a crossroads and the market is deciding on whether to go up and continue the rally or pull back. They are suggesting tightening stop losses on some stocks to protect sudden moves.

Do you see the down trend setting up for another trough? If we are down at the end of the day I plan to add to my UVXY and add SPXS but let me know your thoughts and if I am interpreting the market correctly…. Thanks Jim!

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

C. I’m now short futures and UVXY. I’m now unhedged. I did add puts yesterday. Added to UVXY earlier. I’m in about as far as I’m comfortable. I wish I had a better sense of the target, although I’m playing for further downside. I know I’m not seeing this fully clearly. JR

Charles
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JR – I understand, just checking with you to see if my thoughts are in harmony with yours and not sure when to decide to make that second trough. Thank you for your thoughts and we can see how the EOD looks before close if things are a bit clearer to move forward a bit more. This is a good learning experience for us all in real time to apply what we have learned. Thanks Jim!

Charles
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JR – Do you like to use FAZ, SPX and UVXY to diversify or do you stick with just UVXY as your main bear vehicle in this volatility?

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

For this one, UVXY, SPY puts, and ES futures. I think it’s short lived. For more sustained moves I’ll use the ETF’s. BTW, in the number dream which number did you see first, 40 or 46? Or were they together? JR

Charles
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JR – I saw the 40 first then sensed the word “double” then second number 46 from behind…. I did not receive an interpretation as I usually do, but the numbers were obvious. Since I am in UVXY at $20.07 I assumed that the 40 related to that ( double) but I did not see $$. Hope that helps…

Also, 2 days after my “shorts” dream and going down when I thought we were going up, I had a dream with a date of 8/17, so I am looking to see if that is the deep drop date the Lord may be revealing. I am learning all this by faith so we soon will see….

I am not at the point to trade puts or futures but thought of going in a but more with UVXY and FAZ before EOD and can hedge some FAS shares. Not sure if I need to add FAZ to this drop or just stick with UVXY for the profit on this drop since it has higher returns. If I am wrong about tomorrow and the market goes up, I can sell in the morning and only risk the profit I have made today without eroding my principle. Let me know if you have any comments on that strategy….

Thank you Jim!

Lynn
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Lynn

Charles, I think by looking at Jonathan’s chart where we briefly go down to around 2130-2140 in the S&P’s, UVXY should double to around $40. So you may be right.

Charles
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Hi Lynn – The question is whether we are at that point on Jonhathan’s graph yet or not. We will see tomorrow. If we drop further we may be at a hangman, but some are seeing a bullish move before the next hangman. Phanuel is looking for the second jump so it could happen tomorrow or Thursday. We really did not drop much today, only about 84 pts on the DOW so we may get another drop tomorrow then up. There is some fear entering the markets so unless some good news comes out tomorrow, there really is no cataylist to move it up dramatically yet. We will see how the overseas markets react… Thanks Lynn

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Jonathan
What is the date of your graph vision? I think the two spikes may represent my two jumps. I’m trying to line them up. One of the reasons why I believe we head down to 1988 is, all my friends in the cafeteria represented the year 1988. The school also represented the year 1988. I think it’s around FAZ 46.56.

Shalom

Charles
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P – I had a short dream last night that showed me two numbers, 40 and 46 and the word “double” referring to the number 40. I take this as the possibility that UVXY could double from 20 to 40 and the 46 could confirm your FAZ number of 46.56. That is the interpretation I have so far…

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Interesting Charles
I saw 3922 (meaning 39.22) sometime ago.

Shalom!

TAJ
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TAJ

P,

I was just running a theoretical corrective A B C move down off the high in the 2190’s. If we get DJL’s 2071 in an A wave move down, then we see the B wave up retrace 38%, , that puts us back up at about 2117 or so. The C wave down should equal the A wave, (text book) which puts the C wave at 1994 (pretty close to 1988, but above it.) I still can see the dream with the cars stopping in thin air about a foot above the ground. If 1991 is the ground, then 1994 is about a foot above the ground. Could your 1988 be futures?

Even if we retraced more than 38%, C waves can extend. In any case, and ABC correction looks interesting and paint s path on how to get their with our simple human minds.

Jim’s hesitation on this hangman does concern me, so we keep taking it to the Lord.

God Bless.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thanks TAJ.
We probably head down in three waves..Jonathan’s graph might be the A wave.
1. Big A wave down
2. then B wave up
3. final C wave down.
It’s important not to sell our shorts too early. I don’t think 1988 is in the futures. The Lord usually attaches “futures” to a futures number ( and I don’t trade futures).

Shalom

TAJ
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TAJ

That’s exactly what i was thinking about the 2071, and wondering if Jim’s low being much less than Brexit could be the A wave as well. Only way we get to $45 and $40 is low 2000’s, I think. In his Grip, Amigo.

PS: I have no clue what Moses really looked like, but if I had to guess, Sadhu would have to be a spitting image.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

Phanuel. I was wondering where you think you are in the sequence dream:

1. jump to ceiling
2. walk by blonde
3. avoid urine
4. jump to rafter

It’s an important sequence dream. JR

Phanuel
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Phanuel

JR
Great question. I think we completed the sequence on August 15. However, Jonathan shared his graph vision, therefore I’m watching to see if there is another jump. I think the first jump was August 11 and the second jump was on August 15. If we get another jump that would put the first jump on August 15. My conclusion is either we completed the entire sequence, or we are between steps 3 and 4.

Shalom

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

Ph. Thanks for your thoughts. I’ve been wrestling with it, and am leaning with the first jump Aug 15. The blonde girl today (gold down, girl=short). Avoid urine is bearish equities, but temporary. Then move back up to the rafters for the hangman. I think Jonathan’s chart is pretty close to what is happening. I wonder if he’s got the second peak high enough? JM saw a lot of bullies and I wonder if it’s the place of my three bullies in B&B. If so, it might run higher than just a breach of 2200. Still cooking. JR.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

JR
I like your thoughts about the blonde girl. She was standing on the wet floor (urine), which I avoided. So gold down and not gold up. Thanks!

Shalom

Gary Lee
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Gary Lee

Hey Phanuel At 1132am I saw SVXY sitting on 71.17 for a few minutes as the markets seemed be moving. Just wondering if this might be one of your indicator numbers?

Phanuel
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Gary Lee
it’s possible, I thought about it a few times. For some reason the Lord didn’t specify what the number meant (like He normally does). I assumed UVXY or FAZ. SVXY is a possibility. May be it’s a sell signal for SVXY, confirming the looming hangman.

shalom

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Phanuel, very good to know this info, otherwise I might have been assuming UVXY was supposed to hit 71 and not exited at the right time. I’ll probably manually update stop loss #s as it moves up just in case I am a cement-head and miss hearing my “sell” signal from the Lord.

William
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William

SNS,
If uvxy go up to such as $60 , what price you would set for stop?

stirred-not-shaken
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I’m a rather novice trader, so folks like JR could answer this better. But probably $55 if it moves to say $60. If it gets to $71 I’ll set it for $70. If it gets to $40 I’ll set it for $39, since we have potential prophetic markers for both. I’m really open-minded here, so I will listen if others want to weigh in. Of course at any point if the Holy Spirit says “SELL SELL SELL”, then I exit no matter what.

Phanuel
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JR
its looking more like the second option. Shalom!

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

FED minutes might be interesting.

Charles
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JR – the Fed minutes did not reveal anything dramatic so the markets are just spinning… Any thoughts as to where we are on the graph or any new insights?

Thanks Jim!

TAJ
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P,
Good morning amigo. Wanted to ask how you feel this morning. For me, market feels heavy with a dizziness like Jim’s spinning head. But- not sure, could the bounce back yesterday been the 2nd jump? Thanks for thoughts this am. God Bless

Phanuel
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TAJ,
We are very very very close to our hangman. It’s still possible the jumps were completed on August 15 and Jonathan’s graph began after that (around S&P 2183). Still watching for all possibilities. But we are very very very close.

Shalom

James Bailey
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It appears the drop down to about 2168 earlier this week might have been the fulfillment of the first drop that Johnathan saw because so far it has followed with an abrupt spike back up. If it is, it should continue moving up closer to 2200 before starting a sideways pattern leading up to the second hangman.

Yesterday I saw the equities market dropping very sharply at the end of the week, but did not see which week. So if Johnathan’s first drop has not already happened, perhaps it happens tomorrow. Otherwise, I think it already happened and will be watching for the second hangman possibly at the end of next week.

Phanuel
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JB/Z3
I’m thinking the same. However, I believe the hangman is much sooner than the end of next week. In retrospect the “unofficial” start of the hangman could have been August 15. I’m thinking the second spike up in Jonathan’s graph was the 2186.36 today (above 2183 yesterday). We may be already in the spinning phase.

God bless

James Bailey
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UVXY has been moving sideways since August 8, so that pattern fits with the possibility of the second hangman happening any time now. However, we have not yet seen the fulfillment of what Johnathan saw, which he showed on his graph with a big drop and move right back up. He showed sideways movement afterwards, followed by second hangman, which would fit perfectly with the pattern I am watching for. So it seems like the next significant move would be his big move down and back up. It would be great to have more prophetic confirmation of that move.

As you can see in his graph shown below, he is expecting to see a drop down below 2040. It dropped to 2068 this week, so not really that close. If that was it, then we should see a move back up close to 2200, but that appears to be stalling out at the moment.

Johnathan's S&P graph

Phanuel
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I understand JB. Did Jonathan have specific numbers with his graph? I thought he didn’t. Please correct me if I’m wrong. He also stated it started with a drop … Therefore, if he wasn’t given specific numbers we shouldn’t assume the initial drop was from the top. The hangman is very very very close.

Shalom

William
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William

Phanuel,
Can you share how or at what price you prepare to close the position of uvxy at the hangman?

Phanuel
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Phanuel

William,
I have been out of UVXY for a while now.

Shalom

michael c.
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michael c.

Hi Phanuel, Can you explain your thinking about FAZ
being the main emphasis of JBs original dream that started
this journey in light of your restriction on UVXY? Thanks for all your help!

Phanuel
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Michael C and Wayne C
This may not apply to all of us. I believe FAZ is the most sanctioned vehicle by heaven. From the beginning of July, I had some negative dreams and visions about UVXY. Even the numbers I saw seemed to get lower and lower. So I humbly went before the Lord and inquired about this… This is what I heard..”I don’t like a vehicle based on fear and anxiety, this is not how my Kingdom works”. This was all I needed to hear. I also noticed Peachey was encouraged to sell her UVXY and buy more FAZ. She served as a witness to me.

Shalom

michael c.
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Dear Phanuel, Thank you!

Charles
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Hi Phanuel – I see your point and I have always believed as you do as well, that FAZ is what God gave us revelation on. I will say as you mentioned, that UVXY needs to be respected, hedged and brief. It can be used for gains to help purchase more FAZ shares as we get closer to the event, but all those going short at the right time will benefit from the “fear and anxiety” in the markets, regardless of what inverse ETF stock is owned at the time, including FAZ. The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing. ( Intimacy with Christ) Just my thoughts is all…

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The 19th is Andy’s last turn date for the month the next one is sept 3. He did get the 12th right. And he did get the 17th as a day of volatility right. (volatility is a reversal of a trend

James Bailey
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His graph shows the market dropping 2140 and then bouncing back up to 2200. The drop to 2168 earlier this week might have been it. We’ll just have to wait and see.

Tommy
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I had a dream last night that involved an old friend of mine being bullied by a really big well dressed man. The whole incident was very disturbing and I felt like coming to the rescue of my old friend when all of sudden my friend head butted the bully. The bully ended up flat on his back, laid there for a short time and then slowly got to his feet and said I’ll be back for my 3200, and then he walked away. End of that part of dream. The way the man was dressed made me think of the old gangster movies. This seemed like a high resolution dream, with near term implications. Not sure what the 3200 means?.

Jeff W
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Phanuel,
Jonathan said, “I don’t know the scale or the exact size of the moves, but I drew them the way they felt to me.”

So I think the general shape he drew is much more important than the numbers he laid it on to. I think we shouldn’t get too distracted by the numbers on the graph base.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thanks Jeff W,
That’s the point I was trying to make.
I saw red -903 (DOW) this morning. Our hangman is very very very close (not today). Shalom

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James, it does seem like our “up, down, up” movement has been completed, sort of anyway. I’m not sure if the “spinning” corresponds to the bottom of the “down” cycle as some suggested. Maybe it means we do it all over again?- in which case we would see an up, down, up cycle that corresponds to what Johnathan saw as the next step, perhaps. While what we have now sort of makes a “diamond top”, its a bit of a stretch because it’s more like a quarter carat than a full diamond top. I’m having a hard time feeling like the cycle prior to the hangman is really completed, although I’d be perfectly happy if the countdown finished tomorrow afternoon. We do assume that all the prophetic markers are valid and sometimes that’s not always the case, and one of them might not end up fitting.

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Tomorrow may tell us. I see a strong possibility that the first dip in Jons chart is an EW ABC 3 wave down. This seems confiremd in severla dreams as well. My blue shirt bathroom dream, the 2 burned trees dream, stepping stones in the river dream. Yesterday showed A wave down. today showed B wave upto semi neutral wave B. I beleive tomorrow may be the big wave down I saw in my blue shirt bathroom dream. A hawkish Yellen can surely bring it, That would be the abc down within that first down move in jons chart, then snapp back up….. that bring some confirmation to his chart. Then it seems a week will go buy, then the big hangman event. Brexit was 2 days down, 4 days back up. We may see a similar timing to the next hangman. Tomorrow should tell us alot

Jeff W
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Jeff W

ALERT!
Take a look at the 5-day chart for UVXY. From mid morning Monday, August 22, it looks like what Jonathan drew up to the point the beginning of the second hangman.

James Bailey
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Johnathan did not draw a chart of UVXY. He drew a chart of the S&P. I studied it last night and concluded the first large drop might have started two days ago. The pattern he drew leading up to the second hangman has not happened yet, so my conclusion is we could be close to the first drop, but the second hangman is at least another week or more away.

William
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Phanuel, JB
” PeacheyAugust 10, 2016 8:41 pm
After participating in the 24 hour fast, I heard these words from the Holy Spirit on Aug 9th, “Before the blastoff, there is a countdown.” Since a countdown is usually 10-9-8-7-6…. Could it mean the 19th is the day to look for as the blastoff? ”
19th would suit both of you ‘s some/most understanding.

Charles
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William – The 19th was a day that may have some revelation from Peachy as you said and others who heard that revelation may come from a woman, so we may want to consider that at EOD. There was some discussions that something in the markets may happen during the Olympics as well so if anything does, tomorrow would be the day. We will see….

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W. A question would be whether to apply to calendar days or trading days. I have seen the Lord use counts on only trading days in the past. JR

William
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William

JR,
( Just for discussion ). If the count down apply to trading days, then it would be 23th Tuesday. ” Tuesday ” does not confirm to what James saw ” the equities market dropping very sharply at the end of the week “.

Jim Reeve
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W. I would say this: we have a lot of gaps right now in the near term. However, because we have gaps, it would seem that UVXY would be a safe entry to cover some of this uncertainty if we are at the floor as it seems. JR

William
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William

JR,
Any count down has to start from somewhere. Still any count down is very precise. Peachey has a countdown, while Phanuel at pizza at about 10:30.

William
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William

Even 23th Tuesday would very good. if the blast off indeed happen on that date.

Jim Reeve
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The idea of a countdown is open to a lot of interpretation. Here’s another: The countdown begins when the rocket is on the launch pad. Thus, the number of days we’ve been trading between 20-22 on UVXY is the countdown. Doing that, today would be the ninth day. JR

Mike J
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Recently I asked God to reveal where we are on Peachey’s countdown as I was unsure of when it starts. Today I noticed this comment:

Merri August 29, 2016 8:00 am

Last week I got up to use the restroom and it was 5:43 am. In my heart I heard 5-4-3… Like a countdown. I took this seriously because Holy Spirit has never, for me, used numbers backwards. I prayed and praised hard, then went back to bed. Last night I got up at 3:21 am. Again, I saw and heard 3-2-1.

God doesn’t usually talk to me with numbers. So whether this is just for me or all of us, seek Him. Something is close!

Here is the link: https://z3news.com/w/high-places-shaken/#comment-61025.

Just a thought, it seems like liftoff of a rocket launch occurs at zero, not 1. So if today was 3, Thursday might be the launch.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

MJ. That’s a good catch. I actually think that’s going to turn out right. It fits with Mrs M, and several other recent dreams. JR

Matt NZ
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Peachy started he fast on 8 Aug (4 Av). Completed it on the 5th of Av. 4 Av 444 bc Nehamiah returned to Jerusalem and began rebuilding the walls. The rebuilding took 52 days. 8 Aug + 52 days = 29 Sept or Elul 26.

http://www.torahtots.com/timecapsule/thismonth/av.htm#4

Just throwing out an idea.

Charles
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P – We are definitely in a spinning mode; almost 3 days now so something has to happen because this fence riding will not last long. There is a lot of indecision now and everyone is waiting for someone else to make the first move whether up or down. If anything spooks the markets at this point, down she goes….

TAJ
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TAJ

P to repeat what I told Jim this morning-I’ve felt bouts of dizziness, today is the 2nd day.

DavidM
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DavidM

Hi TAJ, you mentioned you felt bouts of dizziness, I was telling my wife Tuesday & Wednesday I was feeling very dizzy, I actually was thinking something might be going on medically, because I have never felt that dizzy before…. strange.

William
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William

JB,
Any possibility DB collapse on Aug 25th?

James Bailey
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I suppose anything is possible, but it is hard to imagine an event of that magnitude happening this month because of so many prophetic insights seeing the equities market going to new all-time highs after the second hangman. A collapse of DB would make new all-time highs very unlikely. My guess is that event does not happen this year.

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Good morning Phanuel & Jim, I haven’t shared much lately as I’ve received mostly personal stuff and nothing trading related, so I’m somewhat reluctant to share a part of this dream I had last night. However, just in case it means anything I’ll detail below. The dream overall was very long, but here is the portion that “might” have relevance. I was with a Jewish family, (know them in real life) and was helping them with some things around their house. An unseen person, (I have a sense the person was a female) had just received a tattoo of a baseball, “diamond” on their arm. The tattoo was placed there to preserve some hidden/secret or coded knowledge. EOD I saw a brief view of what the tattoo looked like. The ink was all black and the view was from up above, but a view more from behind home plate looking out toward the outfield. There was also a tangent line that extended from home plate off to the right of the first baseline that went approximately 25-30% to first base then ended. I’m not sure what to make of this except that recently Jim saw some fighters in a “diamond” shaped formation. Some initial thoughts… a baseball field is in actuality a square which is 90ft X 90ft, but appears to be a diamond (rhombus) from the perspective behind home plate looking toward the field. There are three bases, (home plate is not considered a base)… a reference to three hangmen? Need to advance to all three bases to get home (final transfer)!? “IF” this is relevant, I’d assume there is certainly something more here. I doubt that the redundancy of trying to simply point out the three drops, (bases) is the important message because that seems well established/understood. Maybe… Read more »

Phanuel
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Hi Tom P
miss you brother! Not to sure about this dream. Maybe JR has some thoughts. Maybe you can draw the image?

shalom

TomP
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TomP

Hey Phanuel-

I’m here everyday brother and havn’t left. I’m committed to this process!

I tried to download the image, see if this works.

TomP
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TomP

I again attempted to paste in the picture URL, Sorry, if this doesn’t work, I’ll need to figure something else out.

James Bailey
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Here is the image you sent me Tom. Thanks for sharing this.

Here is the image you sent me Tom.

TomP
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TomP

Thank you for the assist sir!

Johnathan
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TomP
I have an idea of what the dream might mean. It could be showing us where we are at the moment in forming the diamond top. To form the diamond top, we need a bottom point for the bottom of the diamond, a top point for the top of the diamond, and a far right point for the right part of the diamond. Base 1=Bottom point Base 2 = Top point Base 3 = Right point Home = 2nd Hangman.
Since the line stopped at about 1/4 of the way to 1st base, it may mean we are around 1/4 of the way done with this down move(same 1st down move in my graph).

TomP
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Johnathon,

That is quite possible. I was unable to paste the URL properly , so I can’t get my drawing to load. I did email it to James in the event he feels it important enough to post.

Thanks for your input!

Blessings

Jim Reeve
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The tangent line sounds like 25-30% of 90 (feet), bearish. When did you have this dream? JR

TomP
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TomP

Jim, the dream was last night.

Charles
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Good morning Tom and so good hear from you again. Thank you for sharing your dream. Each one is a piece that helps reveal the vision God is showing us. Blessings to you!

TAJ
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Jim, wasn’t the rafters lower than the ceiling? I mentioned to P below, a heavy dizziness is what I feel, your spinning head seems right; but am not locked at all.

Jim Reeve
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TAJ I don’t believe we’ve done the rafters yet. Rafters imply a ceiling, and we’re below the ceiling right now. Also, JM’s bullies need to play out. His bullies may be my bullies (in B&B), which means I might be off a cycle. Although bullies playing out now makes sense because the bullies lead to a 911, which may be the event that causes a hangman. I’ve got 911 in two places (B&B dream and 3 pines on fire dream), so they are likely linked. I think we’re in the middle of going higher, but not a straight line. My dreams last night were inconclusive. I’m helping a person on a motorcycle ride up a small driveway hill. This person is not properly letting out the clutch with enough power, so they are nearly stalling on the hill. That might mean near term market stalling, but the intent is to go up the hill (maybe). Drawing back some, I think we’re still doing JB’s UVXY floor movements (that’s getting more confirmed as the day’ spass) and I still believe the hangman is for August, but not Olympics (apparently). I do think we’re spinning right now. If you go back to Ph’s 10.5 dream we have a time marker for when he went to SSS’s house (Lancaster conference). That might be the start of the 10.5 clock prior to Ph eating pizza. If so, it puts pizza eating out near the end of next week if 10.5 is 15 days. The idea of “end of August” might be consistent with the feeling that we’ll go to the fourth quarter and my plea to “Coach” for one more play. None of this is firm understanding, and the Lord has pretty much told me that I’m not going to see this very well… Read more »

TAJ
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Thanks

William
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William

JR,
Ph’s 10.5 dream. Can 5 mean 5 trading day from Phanuel’s meeting beginning day? I don’t know which day his meeting started.

TomP
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Hi Phanuel,

I’ve been reading and re-reading the many posts regarding the current status of the 2nd hangman. Without trying to force agreement between what you are seeing and what JR is seeing…is it possible that your A,B,C move is fitting with a shorter move down first A, (2100-2140) that JR and SNS are seeing, then moving back up to a higher high, B and then the move down to 1988 C, (or below) as the 2nd hangman?

It seems that you are seeing the hangman earlier than JR before possibly this week and JR thinking maybe into September!? I made the mistake of holding after Brexit and I want to be careful not to miss this as badly as I did Brexit.

You have also mentioned several identifiers that offer similarities between this move and the Brexit move….do you see this upcoming move to be the same length as Brexit…ie…effectively only 3 days down then the move back up?

Any insight that you feel led to share?

Blessings!

Phanuel
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Hi Tom P,
I see each hangman as an “entire process”. The Brexit hangman was swift and abrupt. The theme of the second hangman seems to be patient endurance. The major similarities I see between the two are in the FAZ and Dow numbers. I saw 46.56 exactly the same way I saw 45.30 (I saw it climbing up slowly). I believe this is the most important sell marker. If this hangman is attached to oil as I believe it to be, it may take longer to reach the bottom (7 to 10 trading days- Feb low as reference). We need to be patient and not take profits too early. The second hangman is more about endurance in every sense. I believe the “second hangman process” began yesterday when I left go of the rafters.

shalom

TomP
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TomP

Hey Phanuel,

S&P needs to drop 4.44 (comment on #4 below) points today to hit 2171 exactly. Saw it drop 4.45 to 2170.99. It has dropped down to 2170.2. Wondering if you believe it’s necessary to hit 2171 exactly?

I just read about the “number 4” and some meanings in the Bible….

Interestingly, the Hebrew word for “seasons” in Genesis 1:14 is moed (Strong’s Concordance #H4150), which literally translated is “appointed times” (divine appointments) in reference to God’s festivals. This is the earliest known allusion to what would later be called the Holy (or Feast) days (periods) of worship, which are seven in number.

You’ve been talking about the, “appointed times” often lately, so I thought I’d share that. We’ll see if 2171 hits exactly.

TomP
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TomP

Sorry….forgot to mention some of what I read when looking up the importance of number 4.

I brought up Genesis 1:14 because it mentions the “4” seasons, therefore, the word moed which I’ve seen you utilize a few times.

Others-
– 4 living creatures
– On the 4th day, God completed the material universe
– Psalm 107 is the only section or chapter in God’s word that contains the exact same phrase four times (Psalm 107:8, 15, 21 and 31)
– Eve is only mentioned 4 times in the Bible
– 4 rivers in the garden of Eden
– The number of times rainbows are referenced in scripture are four (Genesis 9, Ezekiel 1:28, Revelation 4:3, 10:1)
– 4 Gospel accounts of Jesus’ life and ministry
– 4 corners of the Earth
– Rainbow is mentioned only 4 times in the Bible

Bill Fisher
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Phan, I strongly disagree. We cannot change a hangman and call it that when its just a correction type thing youre describing. A hangman is defined as a sudden radical deep dive, then return. A “process” is a slower type move. Some of us have been given a 2 wave down move, in fact several dreams have indicated this, so were not at the hangman yet. Lets be careful not to redefine what a hangman is. Its coming, but is not a correctional ABC EW 3 wave down. I beleive this is what wwre seeing now, unless yellen tomorrow interupts that.

Phanuel
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Hi Bill F
Just getting to this. It okay to disagree. I see this hangman as starting gradually (gradually dropping from the all time high) and then picking up steam at the end. The Brexit hangman was the opposite. JR and I disagree sometimes, but I take whatever he says seriously because I know he hears from the Lord. The most recent example was “1988”. I humbly went before the Lord to clarify if 1988 was for this hangman or not. The dream I shared a few days ago was an answer to this prayer. Like JR says a little prophetic tension is okay.

Shalom

William
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William

Phanuel,
Are we in the step 3. final C wave down now? At about 12:12 pm US time, S&P drop down to 2162.90.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

No William I still think we are early. We just completed one wave down and a corrective wave up ( from Tuesday to today). We are currently in the second wave down.
Shalom

William
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William

Phanuel, you mean we are still in the ” 1. Big A wave down “?
” 2. then B wave up ” has not happen yet. Right?

William
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William

Phanuel,
In your comment here, ” We probably head down in three waves..Jonathan’s graph might be the A wave.
1. Big A wave down
2. then B wave up
3. final C wave down. “,
do you have a number for the bottom of the Big A wave down ? — so that we can put some hedge on at the bottom?

Johnathan
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Phanuel
The dream was only a few days ago in the morning of the 13th.
Regarding the two jumps, I’m thinking the first jump was possibly yesterday or still needs to happen and the second jump is maybe the spike up in the graph before the hangman.
The 1988 makes me pause. I think what I’m personally going to do is wait and see what numbers are hit. When FAZ hits $46.56, I’ll be watching the S+P. If the S+P is still not close to 1988 at the same time the FAZ number is hit, I’ll close most if not all of my short positions and switch to some long positions. Then, if the S+P falls down more to 1988 after the FAZ target is hit, that will be ok, I’ll just add some more long positionsand close any other short positions I have open if it does.

I believe like you do that each hangman will have a FAZ number at the bottom. I would think both the FAZ and S+P or DOW numbers will hit at the same time, just like when FAZ hit 45.30 and Dow hit 17,259 on the same day near the bottom of the Brexit low. We’ll have to keep watch and pray for more revelation to be revealed if we aren’t understanding correctly.

Phanuel
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Jonathan,
I like your approach, it’s very wise. All the numbers should hit around the same time. If yesterday was the first jump and today is the down move, we should see the second jump tomorrow (or in the futures tonight). Gold is still up. Either way we are very very very close to the second hangman.

shalom brother

Mrs Morton
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Mrs Morton

The 46 oil marker turn was negated today.
It was something I was watching but not confident on as it wasn’t as clear in my dreams as other times.

Bill Fisher
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Bill Fisher

WOe Jonathan! I had a disc golf dream 7-31 and just realizing now, my chart of it, is the same as yours, accept for the lil peak after the 1st drop. How can I post a pic of it here? It was also posted a couple weeks ago over at the facebook group “end times investing”. This is freeking me out…lol

Johnathan
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Bill, this is good confirmation. The more dreams saying the same thing or close to it, the better. It seems there is a temporary move down before a return back up to at least around the level we are at now because of the graph I saw and a recent dream from JB last night, along with multiple others.
I’m thinking the move down will happen or at least start to happen this week. The big question is where does the down move end? Right now, I’m thinking somewhere in the mid 2100s. Futures are down right now, so it’s moving in the right direction so far. We’ll have to monitor it closely this week.

Phanuel
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Phanuel

Thanks Jonathan, this confirms the 60 to 70 days I saw to the Thanatos of the bull (from the second hangman ). I was climbing (very slowly) the stairs to the bear market. The timeframe is the end of October/ beginning of November right before the election.

Shalom

Bill Fisher
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Bill Fisher

Jonathan, I wrote your dream off, thinking it didnt have “in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses backing it”, but I had a dream yesterday 8/20 that fits in your chart. im calling it the bathroom dream,showing that first bearish move down. my prayer the night before with fasting was that God would give me a low resolution dream of what the markets about to do. I think my bathroom dream is an answer to that. Im watching for this and the down move of your chart to begin this week.
Also, many of us had thought the crash might start october 2nd or close to it. If your chart gets filled, then it would make sense in tha the fed and the banksers are not gonna want a market crash before elections. That would put Trump in on a land slide and have them loose their cush fed jobs. So a crash after elections fits in with your chart and the 2 month bull, then the crash.

stirred-not-shaken
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Z3, I know we all feel like it’s the death of a thousand cuts right now. I considered whether to sell off UVXY today and still feel “hold” but it’s really getting hard to do. Anyway, since we’re all stuck looking at this mirror smooth market, I present a dream I had about 6 months ago to help pass the time: I am near the end of an airport runway and see a plane coming in directly overhead. It’s an old DC-3 and I notice one of the engines is not running because the left propeller (from the pilot’s perspective) isn’t turning. But it’s coming in gently for a landing at the field. As it gets to where an airplane would normally flare for the landing it pitches up and gains altitude, stalls out, and crashes in a fireball. Amazingly some passengers get out of the wreckage completely unharmed. I seem to remember that I knew them. Translation: The DC-3 is a legendary aircraft, and formed the mainstay of commercial aviation before world war II, and was built in massive quantities during the war. I believe the airplane is used as a marker to note the period of time we are in, in the dream. The airplane was developed during the depression and came into use just as Hitler was coming into power, just before war really broke out. I think that if or when the equities market loses half its value (which is represented by the one dead engine; the DC-3 has two of them), we will be in a similar situation globally. Anyway, the left, bullish engine is dead and the airplane (equities) are drifting down into a support level (airport), and everything looks like its going to be OK. The pitch up and collapse represents the final… Read more »

Jim Reeve
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SNS Nice interpretation! JR

Charles
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Hi Jim – Just to update where we are, or are not … Are we looking for a small, short but deep drop maybe this week, then up to new highs and then the 2nd hangman? I can only assume at this point that the markets will like what Yellen has to say Friday if we are to see a bull run and maybe new highs. They are hanging on her every word…

I can see a drop coming this week in the natural, but let us know your thoughts as to where we my be. When we go lower, how low and when we go higher, how high? Just want to update your B&B graph.

Thanks Jim!

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

C. Seems like we’re spinning and counting down. I don’t think we can stay at these UVXY levels much longer. My primary expectation is a nice move down in equities to be followed quickly by a significant bullish move. I think it should play out very soon. I don’t know how Jackson Hole will play. It’s such a central bank narrative market that it seems only central bankers can move the market. JR

James Bailey
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I think the drop down to 2168 last Tuesday and Wednesday was what Johnathan saw. Although he was expecting it to drop down to 2140, he was not shown any numbers so it is very challenging to draw it accurately on a graph. So far, the shape of the graph has happened exactly as he saw, which makes me think the next drop coming up will be the second hangman. What do you think about that?

Also, do you think the two teenage girls and two levels of the tour boat in my dream might represent the number of days? The two girls went with me in both directions, so I am thinking two days to get to the bottom and two days to get back to the top. I am thinking it could also mean we see about the same size movements each day since the two girls were the same size. They were early teenage so not very big.

Stirred-not-shaken
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Stirred-not-shaken

James, thanks for tracking the shape for us.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

JB. Just caught up to this dream. Yes, I can see how Jonathan’s dream may be down the road, and the hangman is next on the plate. Your dream gives nice confirmation to the overall pattern. Down, then up. The two girls and levels could be days, or could be moves (legs) in an overall move. I lean toward the latter. They are young girls, so again, short. I feel pretty good about where we are right now. I have short placement and it seems like a down move should be fairly close. JR

James Bailey
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Thanks. That helps because I was starting to get locked into the two days idea. If it is two legs then the timing remains unknown. The big question in my mind is whether or not the next drop is Jonathan’s first drop or did that happen last week and the second hangman is next?

Charles
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SNS – Thank you for sharing that. The time is very close to see the events begin to unwind and our graph come into focus as God shows us what positions to take….

Ed h
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Ed h

Charles,
My SDS is up 31% today. I bought some more FFMGF today it went down a lot today so I added more.

Charles
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Ed h – I saw it was up today. Maybe I can get more tomorrow. I am still learning about the options, but assume that when it grows it can be sold like stock. What drives this option to create gains? Thanks Ed for being my ” Cliff Notes” go to….

Ed h
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Ed h

Charles,
It is exactly like stock. An option is a contract to have the option to buy or sell an amount of stocks without actually buying the individual stocks. SDS goes up when the snp goes down .

So today one share of SDS went up .15 cents to $16.41. So in order to own 100 shares it would cost you $1641.00 today you would have made $15 off a $1641 investment.

Today the option went up .16 cents a gain of 36.36% so the $51 turned into $69.68 a gain of $18.68 per contract. So the option of $51 made more money than 100 shares of the actual stock. That’s how they work.
The delta value is still high at .73 so when this stock gains a dollar the option goes up $73. So when the snp starts to really drop this thing will go up huge. Just like spx but we ran out of option time.

As soon as I see a true down turn I’m getting into more of these and the Dow and the Nasdaq etf’s.

Charles
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Thank you Ed. Keep me posted and will see if tomorrow is an other neutral day to buy before something happens on Friday.

mike kasten
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mike kasten

I bought ffmgf and brizf. jnug goes down some more might get a few. i had it when it was $29 and sold it when it hit the 80″s. they kept calling for a correction and it kept going up

Ed h
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Ed h

Mike,
Thanks I’m going to look into that stock.

flea
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flea

Jim,
Thank you for your time and faithful effort – this presentation will have an enduring impact on how the events that unfold over the next decade or two, will impact Christians that read and follow this.

The pattern correlates with many others, e.g.
1. James Bailey’s dreams of the two butchers, one brother nearly sold out and then the second brother completely sold out: https://z3news.com/w/stock-market-running-out-beef/
2. Rob Perret’s dream of steep ski slope down to a curved ramp, with skiers jumping up to 15,000 feet: https://z3news.com/w/steep-slope/
3. Matt Smith’s dream that the markets drop, recover and then by the time of the election the economy will be in a very bad shape: https://z3news.com/w/election-civil-unrest-nuclear-levels-anger/
4. Elizabeth Marie’s dream of bears moving to the deep end of the pool and then move back towards the shallow end (2nd hangman): https://z3news.com/w/large-black-bears-suddenly-approaching-harming/
5. Denika Alston’s dream of three moves forward towards the front exit of the theatre: https://z3news.com/w/three-market-moves-emergency-exit-tensions/

Can the green army men and the platform at the top of the pole have meaning, e.g. that the economic “recovery” after the first fall is obtained by government spending (helicopter money) on infrastructure and military?

James Bailey
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Thanks for this great recap Flea.

Jim Reeve
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Jim Reeve

flea That’s great stewardship of the revelation. The green army men likely have some meaning beyond the green. A military connotation of some type seems to be implied. JR

Mark McGuinnes
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Mark McGuinnes

Mr. Jim I thought it was fascinating the military genre/symbolism there: toy army men, fighter jets in coordination and the aircraft carrier. And, then notably the commercial plane crashing and not like a C130 or some gigantic military cargo plane like a Galaxy makes sense for public equities.
Do you think there will be a military ramp-up during this period??? Perhaps Jade Helm like event or some domestic event??? Or possibly foreign.
What’s going on with Turkey, Russia, Syria and NATO is bone chilling.

And, seriously thank for the concise clarity and teaching.

Jeff W
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Jeff W

flea and JR,
Could the Green army men be the Greenback? It is the relative strength (=army) of the $ versus the euro that has largely facilitated the rise in equities by attracting money from Europe into US markets. So, it’s the green army men (= strong US$) that have enabled the markets to climb so high.

Then, Jim, you say in your video that the Green army men get hit with a hammer and get pulverized and fall like “green confetti”. Confetti is paper. The Greenback is green paper. So it sounds like at the market peak, the dollar gets clobbered, hammered, and with the Green Army (=strong $) no longer propping it up, the market gets hammered down as well.

So, perhaps we should look for a sudden drop in the dollar to be the trigger that drops the 3rd hangman.

Notice also that these green army men are toys and not a real army. I think it speaks to the fact that the dollar is not intrinsically strong but more of a pretend currency, a toy used to build a sand castle market. And actual green army men toys are made of plastic which speaks of the dollar being made of credit and promises.

Mrs Morton
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Mrs Morton

Wow cool take on that.

I had dream that Phanuel and I had same number of 25 and inferred August 25, it was same time of my dream that I was wiping ice cream on the floor where George Washington and other Presidents, one I think was Ulysses Grant. I felt this dream meant to watch for the dollar to go to floor level on Aug.25

William
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William

Mrs Morton,
Do you mean the US dollar will drop on Aug 25 ?

Mrs. Morton
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Mrs. Morton

Hi William, my apologies I am not confident on this one at all, I get dreams and am still learning to interpret but yes that is what I originally was thinking the dollar dropping to possibly support level(floor) but honestly I am still learning and could very well be the exact opposite of that. As the dream also referenced a time when it turned out the exact opposite of what I had thought. We will see if anything happens on the 25 soon.

William
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William

Mrs.Morton, Yellen will has a speech at 10:00 am Friday Aug 26th. The bullishness prospectives after the pending drop of the market may imply that Yellen will be dovish — meaning not to emphasy on the rate hike. — This will cause the us dollar to fall.

William
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William

Have read Phanuel’s patience endurance message: market may take 7-10 trading day to get to the message. If the market going down like Phanuel described, it would imply that Yellen’s speech at 10 am should have a hawkish tone — making the market go down. With a hawkish tone, then US dollar index should go up.

Mrs Morton
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Mrs Morton

Hi William, after looking back of timing of my dream and the floor level of dollar index, looks like that dream was fulfilled today as I had the dream August 6/7 and Aug 8 the dollar was over 96 and it went down to floor/support level (94) since then and is there today.
I think I’m seeing that correctly. I’m new to the support level etc market language.

Stirred-not-shaken
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Stirred-not-shaken

This interpretation makes more sense that a military one.

Denika Alston
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Denika Alston

Wow Flea, you are on it!

Edana Estenes
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Edana Estenes

The federal government fiscal year always closes on Sept. 30. New fiscal year starts Oct. 1 so that is when all the new money comes in. Maybe helicopter money starts on Oct. 1 or after?

Phanuel
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Phanuel

z3
It appears that “5270” I saw some time ago was actually the Nasdaq composite (not FAZ). When I initially received it, I thought it was too high for the Nasdaq. However, it went above 5270 on August 15th as well as today. I believe it’s the turning point road sign, since 70 is the number for the “end of captivity”.

Shalom