“A Remnant is Now Rising that Has Been Trained in the Caves”

Elijah coming out of his cave.

Recently the Lord spoke to me and He said “A remnant is now rising that has been trained in the caves.”

I saw two groups in this remnant. The first was those who the Lord had taken them into a cave for a season of deep hiddenness and a season of deep intimacy with Him. I then also saw a group of people who were hiding in caves because they were either out on the frontline and Jezebel had come after them full force and they had to run for their lives and hide in these caves. Some have been there a short time and some have been there a long time.

In those two groups, if you can call them that, I saw them as a remnant the Lord has been working VERY deeply on in these caves. I saw that whether the Lord took them into the cave or they were hiding there in fear, there was a HUGE YES that was being released from their hearts. Despite what was going on, they were still crying out with a YES to Him to have deep intimacy with Him.

TRAINING

In the YES that they were giving to the Lord in their intimacy, that pure cry to simply know Him, to know His love, to know His presence, there has been a DEEP hunger for Jesus, despite the questions and what had been swirling around them for years and especially recently.

There was one MAJOR MAIN theme in this training and it was STEWARDSHIP!!!!!!! I saw the Lord teaching these ones how to steward His presence and Glory with such purity. How to steward HIS HEART with such care, such sensitivity and such integrity. Stewarding His presence, the revelation of His heart and His Word with such humility, character and integrity. There was a very deep purity of heart about these ones. They have often been rejected by man because of their devotion to Jesus, but they live in a place of such deep intimacy with Jesus, they really know what it is to walk with God.

The Lord has been protecting them for such a time as this. Some of them have begun to leave the caves and some are about to leave. The KEY was learning to steward His presence and Glory with purity. From that place of pure stewardship, the Lord has been preparing them to carry much more than they have ever carried.

There has been AMAZING teaching released into the body of Christ by AMAZING teachers on stewardship of His presence, our lives and gifting. This remnant is now being released to stand upon that foundation that has been so beautifully built by others and bring INCREASE to it. There is an IMPARTATION of the REVELATION OF STEWARDSHIP that God is about to release through them in a significant way to the body of Christ. Through them, the trumpet is being sounded to the body of Christ to ‘COME UP HIGHER’ not only in intimacy, but in integrity of how we live our lives as believers.

In the caves, He has trained them how to steward their hearts and their character, and the Lord has been training them in spiritual warfare, not focusing on the enemy, but looking at Jesus and fighting from there. I saw these ones wearing cloaks that were purple and they looked very ‘weighty’ (in a good way) and I felt the Lord saying that in the training they have been awakened to their royalty.

“But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.” (1 Peter 2:9)

They were not only awakened to their identity as royalty, but they lived in the ever present deep convicting beautiful reality of the darkness that they once lived in, and how Jesus brought them out into His wonderful light. They were full of praises to Jesus for the pure Gospel message, salvation, and their hearts were full and burning with the message of the LOVE of GOD for all.

I noticed all the way around the bottom of their cloaks woven in gold John 3:16, “For God so loved the world that He sent His One and only son.”

The bottom of their cloak was so long it went under their feet. Where I thought it would cause them to trip, I saw such strength in the hem of this cloak that it was if it was the very thing that was keeping them from stumbling. It was like a strong, thick foundation that was under their feet that kept ‘lifting them up’. It totally defied the natural of what would happen if we walked with the hem of a cloak under our feet, but it was clear to me that they were walking upon the foundation of John 3:16 INTERTWINED with the awakening of their identity in Him!!!

The cloak was “weighty” because it also represented a weighty level of heavenly WISDOM that they carried from living in that deep place of purity in intimacy with Jesus.

This remnant is about to be strategically positioned to bring increase to the teaching of living in divine wisdom, receiving kingdom keys of strategy from the place of intimacy with Jesus and the reality that we have the mind of Christ.

DEEPLY FOUNDED AND ROOTED IN SCRIPTURE

As I looked at this remnant, I kept seeing the word “ENOCH” over them, and felt the Lord was likening this remnant to Enoch in Scripture.

There are many Enoch’s across the earth right now, but I felt the Lord was highlighting this remnant, because they are coming out of the caves with the MESSAGE of admonition to the body of Christ to WALK FAITHFULLY with God.

“Enoch walked faithfully with God, then he was no more, because God took him away” (Genesis 5:24)

This remnant is HIGHLY sensitive to Jesus and what He is saying. They live deep in revelation and in the third heaven, they know what it is to live before the throne of God, and their encounters with Jesus are so detailed, beautiful and specific, there’s a very deep revelation of Jesus that they carry, and what He is wanting to do on the earth. They are hearing from heaven of what He is doing and what is to come.

There was a MAJOR EMPHASIS on this remnant, they were DEEPLY BIBLICAL!!! They were ROOTED DEEPLY in the Word. Their high level of sensitivity to Jesus and encounters were not something that was filled with mixture or deception, but they were ones that lived deeply in the Word and stayed in line with it.

THIS REMNANT IS NOW BEING POSITIONED

I saw this remnant now being led out of the caves by Jesus.

Fear was broken off those who were hiding in fear as they received healing and breakthrough.

Both groups of this remnant, those taken into the caves and those who were hiding there, were moving into their position now. Their time of intensive training in the caves was over. They are now moving out to release God’s Glory in new and fresh ways. They are moving in a new realm of creativity and the Glory of God is going to be released in such tangible, creative ways through them that people in the world and in the body of Christ are going to stand and look at them and say “I’ve never seen this!” “What is this?”

They are being sent out by the Lord with a SPECIFIC TASK and that is to release IMPARTATION to the body of Christ and to lead them in a new direction and new way to see the manifested Glory of God released across the world in a fresh way. They are moving out as COMPASSES to the body of Christ.

This remnant is also about to find themselves positioned with some very significant culture shifting assignments and projects in the seven mountains to release the wisdom, strategy and revelation of God to them. Not only the heavenly insight, but teaching people the importance of integrity and character alongside high level gifting.

THEIR POSITIONING IS AWAKENING THE BODY OF CHRIST TO ISAIAH 62:3

The nations will see your righteousness, and all kings your glory; and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD will designate. You will also be a crown of beauty in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of your God. (Isaiah 62:3)

They are going to be used to awaken the Church to purity in intimacy and in daily living. They are going to reignite the call upon the Church for the world and the nations. They are being positioned to be part of awakening the body of Christ to her identity and the NEW NAME that has been given to us through Jesus.

The Lord is also placing them in strategic places of great favor and promotion to release a specific increase in acceleration of the revelation of intimacy and identity to get the body of Christ back on track in ways that they have ‘come off track’.

I also saw the Lord releasing this remnant almost like a set of DIVINE SPECIAL OPS. They were coming to release a breaker anointing against circumstances and the enemy that has come against the body of Christ so violently lately. They were going to come up ‘behind him’ without the enemy seeing them, almost like ‘stealth’ and were about to disarm some major operations of the enemy. Because of their DEEP “cave time” with Jesus they have learned to be able to operate in any environment because of their intimacy with Jesus.

Wikipedia defines special ops as:

“Special operations (S.O.) are military operations that are “special” or unconventional and carried out by dedicated special forces and other special operations forces units using unconventional methods and resources. The primary goal is to achieve a political or military objective where a conventional force requirement does not exist or might adversely affect the overall strategic outcome. Special operations are usually conducted in a low-profile manner that aims to achieve the advantages of speed, surprise, and violence of action against an unsuspecting target.”

THERE IS A PROTECTION OF HEAVEN THAT IS BEING RELEASED OVER THIS REMNANT

I felt the Lord wanting to encourage this remnant that there is great protection, the protection of heaven over them. There is a mighty angelic army that has been assigned to them in this assignment the Lord is releasing them on because of the level of favor and anointing they will move in.

BEWARE OF JEALOUSY – There will be jealousy that will come towards them because others have been ploughing certain grounds for so long and now this remnant will enter with a ‘breaker anointing’ to crack things open for them and lead them into new levels of encounter with Jesus and fruitfulness in their land.

The enemy is going to attempt to link into the soul of many to try and twist what God is wanting to do through this remnant so others will see them as a “threat” attempting to “steal their ground.” The enemy is going to attempt to DISTORT majorly concerning this, but the Lord is sending this remnant to others in the body of Christ with a BREAKER ANOINTING to bring INCREASE to the ground, so it will be more FERTILE, it will have MORE FRUIT, they will release greater wisdom and strategy on how to STEWARD the land, and as a result there will be greater abundance, provision and fruitfulness. Tent pegs will be extended in significant ways and a breaker released to see His Glory increase and manifest in those lands in a whole new way.

MAJOR CONFIRMATION FROM GOD WILL FOLLOW THIS REMNANT

As this remnant rises up, many will question them, “What is this new thing that you’re carrying?” “Is this even God?” “This doesn’t fit my box” “This is not like anything I have ever seen before.”

But look past what doesn’t fit into your box. Be discerning, seek the Lord.

I saw there will be HUGE signs and wonders and confirmation that will confirm their intimacy with Jesus, their gifting, their words, and confirm they are moving in PURITY and walking closely with the Lord and have been sent forth to release the NEW, to release the breaker anointing to take you and the land that you are stewarding to a whole new level.

Lana Vawser

Author: Lana Vawser

Lana Vawser grew up in the Sutherland Shire, in NSW, Australia. She began her relationship with Christ in 1996, soon after which, she started to understand and grow in her prophetic gifting both to individuals and the greater body of Christ. Since then she has ministered in various roles in local churches, while posting prophetic messages through email lists or online. From 2014, Lana has been featured regularly on The Elijah List, The Australian Prophetic Council, and later Charisma Magazine.

Lana has a heart to encourage the body of Christ and individuals in their walks with Jesus; deeper intimacy with Him; and learning to hear His voice. Lana operates in the prophetic and loves to share the heart of God with others. In 2009, Lana wrote her first book titled “Desperately Deep – Developing Deep Devotion and Dialogue with Jesus”. She is a gifted prophet and teacher, and loves to see others grow in all that God has for them. She has her own blog site at Lana Vawser Ministries. She also has a Facebook page.

Lana has completed her Bachelor of Ministry through Tabor College, Sydney; and now resides in the Gold Coast Hinterlands, Queensland.

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kathy P
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September 15, 2016 7:06 AM
Wow!! This is an awesome and very uplifting word from our Great God!!! I will be praying for these people and celebrating what the Lord is doing through them! A couple of years ago, I dreamed that I was traveling up the side of a very steep mountain. The higher we got (I was sitting in the back of a vehicle driven by a popular radio host), the narrower the road became. We were on that road trying to flee the violence taking place in the valley below the mountain. I realized that we would not be able to drive over the mountain because the road became so narrow, that we couldn’t even walk on it. Just as I thought we were going to fall off the side of the mountain, I found myself sitting INSIDE the mountain, in a cave. I noticed there was an angel sitting next to me and I was shaking from the fear of falling off of the mountain and being killed or caught by the “bad guys” at the base of the mountain. I noticed the cave had a walk way all the way down the mountain. I was wondering where the entrance to the cave was and why I hadn’t known about it. It was then the angel told me to turn around and walk out of the back side of the mountain. I as came out of the cave mouth and looked down, I saw an entire city of people who were living in this protected city. They were hidden where the enemy would not find them. I remembered wondering how they all got there and how they knew about this place. It was then, I was reminded that instead of driving away in fear, all I needed to do was find… Read more »
Melvin
Melvin
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September 15, 2016 8:14 AM

If you will allow me to share a bit with you. This will confirm to you that the word given is true and from the Lord God as He follows His own laws, even the law of two or three witnesses. This will bear witness to this word as it confirms the “breaker anointing”. On June 21, 2016 at 6 A.M. I began to enter into a serious spiritual warfare. Without going into great detail and taking up time, this warfare lasted an hour. It was very intense and almost to the point of feeling “violent” and it almost caused me to faint twice as I continued to pray through. I was to the point of being light-headed and in heavy sweat as it dripped off of my brow. As it came to an end, I knew the presence of the Lord Jesus was there and I heard the word, “Pharez” spoken very clearly. I knew immediately that God was preparing for a major “breakthrough” as this was completed in the spiritual realm so that it can manifest into the natural! Praise God for His confirmations and that His word is true! God’s will alone be done on earth as it is in heaven!

Sonia
Sonia
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September 15, 2016 6:02 AM

WOW Lana.
Thank you for this awesome word !
Yes, the Remnant is rising up !
Praise God !

Kristin
Kristin
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September 15, 2016 8:59 AM

Wow…a couple of days ago, the Lord showed me a beautiful royal cloak. When I asked the meaning, he simply said “Covering”. What a lovely surprise to see this in your message today. We do live in exciting times!

Guild
Guild
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September 15, 2016 7:36 AM

I say… Yes lord! yes lord!yes, yes lord! yes lord, yes lord, yes yes lord! Yes lord, yes lord! yes, yes, lord. Amen!

Paul Benson
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September 15, 2016 12:44 PM

What is with all of today’s ‘positive words only’ Prophets? Is this an accurate and balanced representation of the heart of the Father and his word to his people? I think not.

Where is the rebuke of the sins of our nation or of the modern church? Where is the warning of the judgment of God America is now under, and the destruction ahead? Where is the clarion call to repentance from sin? Where is the warning of judgment upon the wicked or of eternal damnation? Where is the rebuke or warning of the false prophets and false teachers in our midst? Where is the warning of the global religion millions are being sucked into with the Cotton Candy Prophets leading the way? Where is the warning of the coming tribulation and Antichrist’s war on the saints; and the persecution and horrible down-irodding the Church will suffer? Where is the warning of the coming Mark of the Beast? The main job of the watchman is to WARN the people.

If people could look ahead and see what the destination is that Seven Mountains / Kingdom Now theology leads to, they would be very hesitant to laud those promoting those teachings. I’ll give you a spoiler: the end of that road is ROME! Pray for discernment my brothers and sisters!

The words of a false Prophet tickle the emotions; the words of a true Prophet prick the conscience. -Leonard Ravenhill

In the love of Jesus Christ;
Paul Benson

James Bailey
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September 15, 2016 1:30 PM

Not all prophetic words are warnings. The primary purpose for prophetic words is for edification, exhortation, and consolation (1 Corinthians 14:3, 14:12). The Apostle Paul instructed us, “Let all things be done for edification” (1 Corinthians 14:26). So it is a mistake to reject prophecies just because they are not warning of coming destruction.

This site is filled with all sorts of warnings of coming destruction, including warnings shared by Lana Vawser. However, God also has a righteous remnant who are being trained and prepared for special assignments in these last days. That is not a false prophecy. It is backed up with enough scriptures to fill a book, which is why I am writing a book about it called “The Righteous Remnant Arises.”

Regarding dominion, I have already provided you with scriptures in my previous comments showing how God has given us dominion from the very beginning and that is His plan for us even unto the end of this age and beyond, so I am not taking time to repeat myself. The scriptures need to be the final authority to answer every question. Without that, we enter into vain arguments, which are a waste of time.

Rachel Baxter
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September 15, 2016 10:08 PM

James, I am in agreement with you. The Lord does not just speak of one train of thought. There are times He releases a word for the purposes of warning and there are other times He releases a word for the purposes of equipping His children for what is to come. For those He is speaking to prophetically, we don’t get to choose what He says. We can only choose to be obedient to what He says to write it and share it.
All of us need to heed the warning that we are Not God and His ways are not our ways. I am thankful every single time I feel His breath, I hear His words, or I see the pictures He chooses to show. I don’t get to say “Gee Lord, that’s all great but I really want you to just speak to me about judgment today.” I get to say, “Father, I pray that you would count me worthy to receive any drop of wisdom or understanding you have to offer.”
He has told me that He looks for those with a “contrite” heart. I had to look that word up. I believe He meant that He wants to speak to those that realize they don’t have it figure out. They (me) are lacking in all wisdom apart from Him. I am SORRY that I don’t have any of the answers for my own life, or anyone else’s, but I know for certain that He does. He will lead us, if we are willing to follow Him. The little sheep would be lost without their Shepard to show them the way.

Sujit Thomas
Sujit
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September 15, 2016 10:33 PM

Let me pray with you, Rachel.

Father, I pray that you would count me worthy to receive any drop of wisdom or understanding you have to offer. I truly don’t understand everything. You are the source of all wisdom and knowledge. Enlighten me, O Lord, that I may know you and your ways. I ask this in Yahshua’s wonderful and powerful name. Amen.

James Bailey
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September 16, 2016 4:03 AM

Amen. Just keep saying what He says!

Lee
Lee
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September 15, 2016 2:59 PM

Regarding dominion, I have already provided you with scriptures in my previous comments showing how God has given us dominion from the very beginning and that is His plan for us even unto the end of this age and beyond, so I am not taking time to repeat myself.

Yes, Adam was originally given dominion over the earth, but he sinned and lost it. We don’t have dominion over the earth today. Do the lions and alligators not eat us when given the opportunity? If we had dominion over the earth, they wouldn’t. Only when we reign with Christ in the new age will we regain “dominion”.

And consider Luke 4:6, when Jesus Christ was being tempted by the Devil, he said to Jesus, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.” Jesus didn’t question the legitimacy of his claim. So do we really have dominion?

Jerry Sundberg
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September 15, 2016 6:16 PM
When Jesus rose from the dead, He was given a name that is above all names. He was given a title of King of kings and Lord of lords. His authority given Him by the Father was on full display while He lived on earth. This same authority was given to His disciples and all who would believe on their testimony. Jesus prayed to the Father that the glory He had with the Father would be shared with His disciples. I have to consider that Jesus” dominion over all the things in this earth was complete. I have experienced this same dominion in my own life as I obeyed the voice of the Lord to alter the weather, creatures of the earth, the demonic spirits and the healing of bodies as well as raising the dead. Lee, if we do what the Spirit of the Lord tells us to do, nothing can harm us. NOTHING. Those who were ‘eaten’ were not walking with Jesus. The wicked will perish if they do not repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Jesus spoke of this. Those who are walking in the Spirit of God, cannot be touched by those things you mentioned. Even the natural order is altered for those doing what God commands of them. There are many reports of God’s supernatural protection over His people. Not everyone is afforded this same protection. Either they are called of God to lay their lives down, given His protection or they are those who will perish because of their unbelief. Yes, many who are Christians today and so in name only. Just as Jesus warned, many will come to Him in that day and say they have done many things in His name but Jesus, rejecting them said, “Depart from Me for… Read more »
Lee
Lee
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September 16, 2016 9:39 AM

Thanks for your response Jerry. Because of the posting delay for my posts, usually 4 to 12 hours, you wouldn’t have seen my latter response quoted below. Can you point me to the scriptures that state that this current generation, in our time now, has the same authority that the Apostles and “the 70” that Jesus gave authority as stated in Luke 10. I contend that this was NOT a perpetual authority given, but just to the Apostles and the 70.

(response to Mark Sellers) First in Luke 9, Jesus commissioned and set out his 12 Apostles with “power and authority”. In Luke 10, he then sends out 70 more with “authority to trample on serpents and scorpions”.

So this is speaking to the Apostles and early Christ followers, NOT TO US. This wasn’t a perpetual “authority” given. So are you taking Luke’s writings out of context?

While I like what is written in Ephesians 2, our salvation in Jesus, it mentions nothing about the point of the current “dominion” in this world.

Jerry Sundberg
Member
September 16, 2016 1:49 PM
Let me ask you a question first before I answer yours. What scriptures prove that the life given us through Jesus is perpetual and not just for those in that time? In 1 John, we are told that: 1 John 2:6 (NKJV Strong’s,) 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked. Jesus walked in the power of the Holy Spirit and before He released His disciples to do likewise after He rose from the dead, He told them to wait in Jerusalem until: Luke 24:49 (NKJV Strong’s,) 49 Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.” He required this because He knew that what they will face will require God’s power which is greater than their own. If we are to walk as Jesus walked, we will need what Jesus needed, an infusion of God’s power to walk holy, in power and in humility. Throughout the Old Testament, we have seen that none of those who tried to walk in full obedience to God could not but all failed. If we are to walk as Jesus walked and do the works of Jesus and greater works, we must have that same authority and power as Jesus did. I have cast out demons from hundreds of people using that same authority given by Jesus to those who are His disciples. Since I too am His disciple, what was given to them is also given to me. I have been used of God to bring instaneous healing to many as I obeyed what the Holy Spirit showed me. Because I hear His voice, I did as He told me and I witnessed miracles. He has… Read more »
Peggy A.
Member
September 17, 2016 12:24 PM

Absolutely awesome, Jerry!
(citing your paragraph which I have copied below).

Truly, we should all be operating this way to build ourselves up, edify and convict the Body of Christ, and bring Salvation to the lost! In all this, we bring Glory to HIS NAME and POWER.

“I have cast out demons from hundreds of people using that same authority given by Jesus to those who are His disciples. Since I too am His disciple, what was given to them is also given to me. I have been used of God to bring instaneous healing to many as I obeyed what the Holy Spirit showed me. Because I hear His voice, I did as He told me and I witnessed miracles. He has opened my eyes to see the invisible realm and I saw demons flying from one person to another, speaking accusations to encite them to violence. Through the gifts of the Holy Spirit, I have spoken words of knowledge which revealed the secrets of men’s hearts and they were astonished that I could know these things about them.”

Lee
Lee
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September 16, 2016 4:12 PM
Let me ask you a question first before I answer yours. Well, what a start. Defer my question with many questions. While I know that the power of the Holy Spirit can today work through faithful believers, I don’t believe it’s through the same authority that the Apostles were given. The Apostles had the power and authority to give others those same gifts. Can you? Are you a modern day Apostle working miracles through the same “power and authority” that the Apostles were given or is it just the great power of the Holy Spirit choosing to work through a dedicated believer (you)? And I’m not questioning your claims, and if it is as you state, that is incredibly wonderful! All within the realm of the power of the Holy Spirit. But not necessarily that same “authority” that the Apostles and the other at the time were given by Jesus. Somehow it seems that people think that if they “just believe with their whole heart in Jesus and follow him” that they now have the “power and authority” to perform miracles with these gifts. And if they can’t, well I’m sorry you must not really believe in HIM “enough”. I have a problem with that kind of thinking. Even though I know you didn’t state this, it’s the reason why I first questioned James Bailey’s use of “dominion” and “power and authority”. I don’t see or hear of 10s of thousand of believers worldwide performing miracles with these gifts. So if this “power and authority” continued on through the Church through the ages, where is the multitude performing miracles and using their gifts? While I know that there are many lukewarm, Sunday only, fair weather Christian believers out there, but there has got to be 10s of thousand of dedicated… Read more »
Sujit Thomas
Sujit
Member
September 17, 2016 9:24 AM

Lee,

You said, “I don’t see or hear of 10s of thousand of believers worldwide performing miracles with these gifts.”

Well, here is what I’ll do. I’ll pray that you’ll see one of those tens of thousands in your own reflection one day.

Till then may the Holy Spirit abide with you and guide you into all truth just as the Scriptures say he will.

Peggy A.
Member
September 17, 2016 4:04 PM

Believe me, seeing ONE good living example goes a LONG WAY to building our faith in the impossible!!

Mar R.
Member
September 17, 2016 1:56 PM
Lee, I am reading Smith Wigglesworth right now. There is a man that certainly appeared to work “miracles through the same power and authority that the Apostles were given.” In regards to 1 Corinthians 13 Wigglesworth says this: I find that, in all my Lord did, He said that He did not do it, but that another in Him did the work. What a holy submission! He was just an instrument for the glory of God. Have we reached a place where we dare to be trusted with the gift? I see in 1 Corinthians 13 that if I have faith to remove mountains and have not charity, all is a failure. When my love is so deepened in God that I only move for the glory of God, then the gifts can be made manifest. God wants to be manifested, and to manifest His glory to humble spirits. An then the real eye opener was something I read in his book “Prayer Power and Miracles” on page 88 last night: The Holy Ghost would have us clearly understand that we are a million times bigger than we know. Every Christian in this place has no conception of what you are. My heart is so big that I want to look in your faces and tell you if you only knew what you had, your body would scarcely be able to contain you. Oh, that God shall so bring us into divine attractiveness by His almightiness that the whole of our bodies shall wake up to resurrection force, to the divine, inward flow of eternal power coursing through the human frame. Here was a man that understood completely that it was and is all about the person of Christ Jesus. If there was a difference in the “power and authority”… Read more »
Peggy A.
Member
September 17, 2016 3:11 PM

Yes, Smith Wigglesworth, Amy Semple McPherson, Maria Woodworth Etter, Kathryn Kuhlman, and the list goes on and on. Also check out the Azusa Street Revival in the 1900’s.
Watch Sid Roth’s “It’s Supernatural” TV Archives online.
Incredible testimonies!!

Jerry Sundberg
Member
September 17, 2016 9:43 AM
It would have been great for you, Lee, to have answered my question (singular) and not as you said “many questions”. No scriptural proof that the authority of Jesus is NOT given today to those who believe. Let me give you just one answer although there are many throughout the scriptures. Mark 16:15-18 (NKJV Strong’s,) 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” AND THESE SIGNS WILL FOLLOW THOSE WHO BELIEVE… In the name of Jesus, they will do all those things listed. Jesus giving us His name is Jesus giving us His authority. I cannot see how anyone who reads the scriptures can miss this! It is as plain as day. Jesus did not say, if you are my apostles you will do this. Jesus didn’t say you will do this only in the first century! Jesus said IF YOU BELIEVE, you will do these things IN MY NAME. THIS IS Jesus giving those who believe His Authority as we do them “in His Name”. It was common for Jesus to answer a question with His own question. Some refused to answer His questions because although they knew the answer, they hardened their heart against Jesus because they refused to WANT to acknowledge Him. The verses in Mark are the most straight forward of any verse and… Read more »
Peggy A.
Member
September 17, 2016 4:03 PM

Lee,
First of all, it is a really good thing that you are asking questions. There are no questions that are not potentially helpful to all. I ask a lot of questions, myself.

I will give my opinion on ONE of your questions:
“On a side note, the Catholic Church claims the right of succession and “power and authority” of the Apostles. Do you think they are right? (that rhetorical).”

ANSWER: Absolutely not. They believe that “Peter was the first Pope.” NOT. Jesus built his “church” on the understanding of Jesus as the only Son of God, not a Church denomination or institution. Also, in the Book of Revelation in Chapters 2 and 3, Jesus addresses 2 different churches saying that he hates the deeds of the Laodiceans. That word means “conquer the laity” (or the common people). We all have equal and free access to the Throne Room, and need no middleman between us and Jesus!!

Sandra
Sandra
Member
September 17, 2016 10:56 AM

Here is a ministry thats creating disciples that do just that. The reason you don’t here about it is because of people’s fear. Fear to try, fear of ridicule, fear it won’t work, fear they don’t know enough, fear others wont believe them, etc…

I’ve healed my own pink eye, ringing ears, sore joints and my kids growing pains and headaches but I’ve never stepped out in faith to heal someone outside my comfort zone. I would love too and I believe in it 100% but am hindered by my shyness.

https://youtu.be/y2buyfegymg

There are lots of other videos about this…

Eileen
Eileen
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September 17, 2016 5:41 PM

Awesome testimony Jerry!
I was reminded of (1Cor 3:21-23) “So then let no one boast in men. For all things belong to you, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come; all things belong to you, and you belong to Christ; and Christ belongs to God.”

Lee
Lee
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September 16, 2016 8:04 PM

Pastor Tim Warner does a great job of explaining the subject of “spiritual gifts”. For the benefit of all, I hope folks find it edifying.

http://www.oasischristianchurch.org/articles/Spiritual_Gifts_1.pdf
http://www.oasischristianchurch.org/articles/Spiritual_Gifts_2.pdf

Peggy A.
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September 17, 2016 12:36 PM

Lee,
I looked over those 2 articles and indeed the Pastor seems intelligent and organized. However, I do not sense that his writings are infused with the Holy Spirit. I wonder if he could give you a date and description of his conversion or born-again experience? If not, I would question if he has received the New Birth.

The Spirit cannot be gained through the reasoning mind.
It seems to me that is what he is using.

I would suggest that you get an easy to understand Bible and start reading for yourself, either the New Testament or cover to cover. The Word is living and active and will bring you into all truth. Honestly, we cannot put our trust in any Pastor today. We need DISCERNMENT. We must get this for ourselves, and we WILL get it by daily time in the Word. I’m not trying to be “religious” here, but perhaps 1 hour a day would be a good dose to feed the spirit-man!

In 2012, I read my Bible cover to cover in 89 days and it CHANGED MY LIFE!! After that, I continued to do the same about 7 more times. I am about ready to begin it again!!

Cali
Cali
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September 16, 2016 9:17 PM

Lee, do you not realize WE ARE The Book of ACTS?
Jesus said “And grater than these will you do..”
How do you think we will do that?
I think you should ask the Lord for a spirit of wisdom and Revelation according to Ephesians

And Lee, we don’t just have the power the Apostles had, we have the Power Jesus had, we are royalty:) We are all that IN HIM,
without Him we are nothing..

Stop fighting it..

Peggy A.
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September 17, 2016 12:19 PM

Yes, the last-days church will come full circle back to the Book of Acts, the original template for what “church” was to look like. We have strayed SO far away from it.

The last-days church will meet in house churches/underground just like the Book of Acts. People will be equipped to go out and win more to Christ. The five-fold ministry and the 9 gifts of the Spirit will be in operation. The 9 Fruits of the Holy Spirit will be the foundation.

Peggy A.
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September 16, 2016 11:16 PM

Lee,
I’ll let someone else give you the Scriptures to support the fact that those Luke Scriptures ARE FOR TODAY.
“Jesus Christ, the SAME yesterday, today, and forever.”

It’s getting late here where I live, so I’m getting ready to sign off.

All I can say is that sadly, most churches probably teach that these Scriptures are not for today and that the 9 gifts of the Spirit are not for today. That is false teaching and I’m sure satan rejoices when he can influence and deceive the churches into doubting God’s Word and render the church powerless, especially for this crucial up-coming end-times Spiritual Battle.

I will quote my Pastor prior to teaching on healing, deliverance, the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the 9 Gifts of the Spirit. She starts out by saying that if anyone wants to debate her saying that these are NOT for today, all she can answer is “SORRY, I/WE ALREADY GOT IT!! YOU’RE TOO LATE. YOU SHOULD’VE TOLD ME/US THAT 15 YEARS AGO!” And yes, all of these manifestations of the Holy Spirit are evident in my church. It’s not showy or “swinging from the chandeliers. It’s quiet and powerful…… the blessed POWER of the HOLY SPIRIT!

Peggy A.
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September 17, 2016 7:36 AM

Lee,
In addition, you will find a great insight in the true definition of “Sozo/Saves.”
“Sozo is the New Testament Greek word often translated as “SAVES”; which in its fullest form also means HEALS, RESTORES, DELIVERS and MAKES WHOLE. We are a Church who want to see people receive all that Jesus has provided through His death and resurrection – salvation, healing, restoration, deliverance and wholeness.”

Remember, too that Jesus took the stripes on His back for our HEALING!! His finished work on the Cross paid for our Salvation AND our HEALING. Scripture states “By His stripes we WERE HEALED.”

Bev
Bev
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September 16, 2016 10:10 PM

John 14:11,12 gives us understanding that we will do greater works than Jesus… Using the same authority of the Father as He used… That’s dominion… Dominion over all the works of the enemy.. Otherwise why are we told in Genesis to take dominion?

Cali
Cali
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September 17, 2016 4:46 PM

I love that scripture in Genesis:)
(also reminds me of Charles Capps:)

James Bailey
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September 15, 2016 3:18 PM

Jesus conquered Satan through His death and resurrection, which is why we now have authority over all the powers of darkness. The dominion that Adam lost in the Garden of Eden has already been restored to us by faith, but we must know the scriptures and believe and act on them, which is why Paul said we are more than conquerers (Romans 8:37).

Lee
Lee
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September 15, 2016 6:48 PM

Jesus has that authority, we do not. We can ask or pray when being confronted by the powers of darkness and “ask in the name of our Lord” and Jesus can intervene, but it’s no guarantee. Too many people think it’s like a “magical incantation”. At least that’s how Terry Bennett describes it and while I do respect your work and abilities, I trust Terry’s biblical interpretations more that yours.

I forget which series covers this point, but I recently reviewed “Understanding The Soul & Spirit Training” and “Within the Circle of The Throne”. A lot of great information is covered and many false beliefs are dispelled within. Back to the basics!!

https://soundcloud.com/terrybennettministries/sets

James Bailey
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September 16, 2016 4:13 AM

Jesus said, “Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.” (Luke 10:19)

Lee
Lee
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September 16, 2016 9:30 AM

In Luke 10, Jesus gave authority to the Apostles and then the 70. That was for that time, to carry the Word and establish the Church. It wasn’t perpetual authority through the generations.

James Bailey
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September 16, 2016 9:41 AM

That last part is not found anywhere in the Bible and is not true.

Lee
Lee
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September 15, 2016 6:24 PM

What is your definition of “dominion”. Must be different from my understanding.

James Bailey
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September 16, 2016 4:11 AM

Ruling with authority over.

Mark Sellers
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September 15, 2016 3:43 PM

Read and study Luke 10:19, not to mention all of Ephesians 2.

Lee
Lee
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September 15, 2016 6:39 PM

Mark,

First in Luke 9, Jesus commissioned and set out his 12 Apostles with “power and authority”. In Luke 10, he then sends out 70 more with “authority to trample on serpents and scorpions”.

So this is speaking to the Apostles and early Christ followers, NOT TO US. This wasn’t a perpetual “authority” given. So are you taking Luke’s writings out of context?

While I like what is written in Ephesians 2, our salvation in Jesus, it mentions nothing about the point of the current “dominion” in this world.

Robert
Robert
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September 15, 2016 6:18 PM

I try warning people every day. Most won’t listen. Most are still walking through life as if everything is a-ok. You can try until you are blue in the face but most are going to need a real slap in the face to finally get it. Believe me, unlike many, my dreams for the most part are not pretty. Most have a dark essence to them on the surface but underneath is a positive undertone as if I am being strengthened for what is coming. There are going to be different assignments for different groups of people. I am quite sure I know what mine will entail. Thus, dreams of pretty waterfalls and Tulips isn’t going to really prepare me for what I am going to face or my heart might fail me. For some, the opposite is true. God knows what each of us needs, right?

Cali
Cali
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September 16, 2016 9:28 PM

Amen Leonard Ravenhill
(Paul, something has been off for me too..)

Robert
Robert
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September 15, 2016 12:57 AM
OK, I have to tell everyone about a dream I recently had. In this dream I was with two other people I do not know, a man and a woman. We were walking along a river bank towards a large, old brick building, like one of those older railroad power stations. The building was set a few hundred yards away from this river in a little ravine that had a small tributary creek running through it into the larger river. I kept getting the impression of the word “stronghold.” Each of us were carrying a small military pack strapped over our shoulders. I know that inside the packs were some type of explosives and our mission was to enter the building and place these explosives in 3 strategic locations. There was also something we were supposed to grab and take out of there but I had know idea what it was. As soon as we entered the building I saw what I can only describe as zombies walking around. They did not notice us and did not bother us in anyway, I knew that we were protected from them. The inside of the building was pretty much gutted, dilapidated and dark. As we moved further in we saw a younger brunette woman attacking someone who was strapped to some kind of upright gurney. She turned and hissed at us but did not attempt to attack us or approach us. What I saw I can only describe as pure evil, demonic. The next thing I knew, the man and woman I was with were gone. I knew in the dream they had gone to find the locations where they were supposed to position their packs. In front of me leading out of the main, old brick power station were two double… Read more »
Todd H Henderson
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September 15, 2016 6:27 PM

That is one intense dream. I hope someone can add to it.

Robert
Robert
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September 16, 2016 11:24 AM

Todd,
My own impression was that God was either helping me to tear down a stronghold in my own life or preparing me for something in the future.

Peachey
Peachey
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September 26, 2016 3:50 PM
Mantel of Protection. I was not really sure where I was to put the following experience I had with God this morning, which article to put it under. Many of you have read about my past experience with partial amnesia. Where the mental abuse that happened to me was outside what my mind could handle. I had also written about my experience with God at the age of 16, when he revealed himself to me. I felt his tremendous love, so much so, it felt like my body was going to literally explode with it. I was shown a minute portion of how great and vast he is, and I became afraid, because I became as literally nothing. He said to me, at that time, that he had brought himself down to a level man could comprehend him. But he is so much greater than man’s limited knowledge can comprehend. Off and on the last six months, I found myself pushing to test the barriers of knowing who God is, and his greatness, his wisdom, knowledge, etc. I would reach a certain point, then draw back out of fear. I would try at times to block out my mind from reaching to understand who he is. Yet, in my fear of going beyond boundaries man is not meant to pursue, I sought this knowledge. For the last 50 years I came to know my Father God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. The Father God and I had many talks about his relationship with his son, Jesus; the cross and what it meant, how precious the blood of his son is. Underneath it all at the very center of everything is his love, especially the love he has for Jesus, how very precious he is to the Father God. I was… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
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September 28, 2016 10:26 AM

AMEN!!! Thank you kindly for sharing your words. Our Lord is our protection.

Tamara McCarter
Tamara McCarter
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September 15, 2016 9:11 AM

Thank you for sharing. This is an absolute confirmation for me. Please listen to the 2016 Lancaster Prophetic Confetence, session 7, Neville Johnson. He speaks of the same thing. The entire convention is on u-tube. It has been an enlightenment that I needed badly. Please listen.

Aris - Melb
Aris - Melb
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September 15, 2016 4:30 PM

Tamara I agree! You will also enjoy the Sydney prophetic conference with the same speakers that was just held a week ago….similar messages but more.

This is the first couple of sessions – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkKzpdr63TI

Bless you.

Phil V.
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September 16, 2016 2:40 PM
Lana — Once again, you are speaking directly into my situation. I actually took notes so I can be encouraged by this word daily! Most of this year I have been deeply uplifted by the story of Micaiah the Prophet in 1 Kings 22 (& 2 Chronicles 18) who was a contemporary of Elijah. He was bold and fearless in his desire to seek God’s truth even when it meant that it would bring harm to him personally & did not fear the wickedness of King Ahab, the man he was to prophesy against in the midst of roughly 400 false prophets who sought only to “tickle the ears” of the king. Also, I think it is always refreshing to be reminded that even Elijah hid from Jezebel. He had genuine experiences when he was fearful for his life & situation — just like us. I pray that we continue to realized the same Spirit that empower Elijah, Micaiah, and most importantly, RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD lives within us and rests upon us! The Holy Spirit is such a beautiful gift and I am excited to see the Lord pour out these GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT as he continues to pour out His Spirit upon all flesh (Joel 2:28). I have been praying a lot regarding the 144,000 in Revelation 7 and somehow the Lord keeps bringing me back to these verses as if they will be so VERY IMPORTANT in the near future as the Lord executes His good, pleasing, and perfect will. I have recently been receiving a lot of direction in regards to my purpose on this earth and it simply comes back to the fact this: After the enemy has done everything to try and knock us down, TO STAND (Ephesians 6:10-20). I pray… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
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September 28, 2016 2:52 PM

Yes and AMEN!!! I think of Phillip and how after being used to save 3000 and then 5000 souls, being led to walk 2 days to catch up with a eunuch on a chariot…what a lesson in being led to speak as a vessel to those we will be led to reach. His Word through our loves and lips…may His will be done and His name be lifted for the world to see, know and believe.

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