Prophetic Dream Reveals Unrighteous Woman Leading America in 2020

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Sometimes it takes a while to understand what God is saying. Nearly two years ago, God gave me a dream and I have been unpacking it ever since.

Just as God has hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge in Christ, He also hides the meaning of dreams, visions, and words as an invitation for us to seek Him for understanding (Proverbs 25:2, Colossians 2:2-3). It is like playing a game of hide and seek with God.

In November 2014, God gave me a dream revealing the future of the United States, including our government’s plans to destroy the country and mass murder the American people, but there were many clues hidden in the dream, which I could not understand without God’s help.

As we are now just a few days away from the next Presidential election, I believe God has given me more understanding of the clues, thanks also to insights from my friend Aaron Brickman. If you have not yet read the dream, please click the link to read it before proceeding. Otherwise, the rest of this will not make sense.

I believe the key to understanding the dream is the statement made by the woman who was left in charge by President Obama after he departed. She warned me, “Let me give you a word of advice. I am going to be leaving, but I am coming back. Let’s see… today is Wednesday? I am coming back either Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. You need to get out of here by then because anyone who is still here is going to die. So unless you leave before we come back, you and your family will die.”

Days often represent years in dreams, similar to how hours represent months and minutes represent days. So in this dream, I believe the days represented years and she revealed the next seven years.

She said, “Let’s see… today is Wednesday?” It actually was a Wednesday when I had the dream, so that let me know the starting point was the year I received the dream, 2014. Therefore, the years following are as shown here:

  • Wednesday – 2014
  • Thursday – 2015
  • Friday – 2016
  • Saturday – 2017
  • Sunday – 2018
  • Monday – 2019
  • Tuesday – 2020
  • Wednesday – 2021

She said, “I am going to be leaving, but I am coming back.” She was not leaving for a few days, but for a few years. She did not say exactly which day she was leaving, but sometime after 2014 she would be leaving the country and returning next Tuesday or Wednesday, which means she would be returning in 2020 or 2021.

Why would she say Tuesday or Wednesday rather than being more precise? Perhaps the timing is related to the Presidential election in November 2020. The new administration does not take office until January 2021. Perhaps she was telling me, “I am leaving for a few years, but I will return in 2020. Then in 2021 I will be put in a position of ruling over America.”

In the dream, they referred to Obama as President Obama. The title of this woman was not revealed to me, but it was made clear she reported to President Obama, at least during that time before she departed. So it is unclear what title she will have after she returns. What was clear was President Obama departing and leaving her in charge, but I don’t know if she becomes President or takes some other title.

She said, “You need to get out of here by then because anyone who is still here is going to die.” Since she is returning in 2020, the last safe year to exit would be 2019. However, if she was referring to the election in 2020, it might be safe to stay until then.

A friend of mine received a similar dream in 2009. In her dream, she was told she had ten days to leave the country, so 2010 would be the first day and 2019 would be the last day, which confirms the timing revealed in my dream. However, she was specifically told, “You must leave before the election.” So it sounds like it is safe to leave until the end of 2019 and perhaps still safe until the election in 2020.

After she returns, it will not be safe here. Anyone who wants to survive should prayerfully consider leaving the country before then because God is warning us those who stay here beyond that time will likely be killed. I believe He has given us advance warning so we are not victims of the terrible things coming after her election.

Since the woman said she would be leaving the country and not returning until 2020, I believe that means she will not be in office during the coming term from 2016-2020. Perhaps she comes in with a new administration in 2020.

Confirmed by William Branham:

In 1933, William Branham also saw a woman rise to power in America. God gave him seven visions of the future of the United States and the first five have already been fulfilled. In his sixth vision, he saw a beautiful woman ruling over America.

“Then there arose in the United States a most beautiful woman clothed in splendor, and great power was given to her. She was lovely of feature, but there was a hardness about her that defied description. Beautiful as she was, she was yet cruel, wicked and cunning. She dominated the land with her authority, she had complete power over the people.”

This woman will rule as an evil tyrant with “complete power over the people.” Freedoms we now take for granted, like the ability to travel and leave the country, could be taken from us. I believe this is why we are being warned to leave before she takes office.

In a separate dream, I saw a woman in charge of confiscating weapons from the American people. I believe that was the same woman who will be elected in 2020.

Confirmed by Brian Carn:

On December 4 2015, Brian Carn shared a word God gave him about a woman who would become President after Obama.

“I am really prayerful because before Obama came in office, the word of the Lord came to us and told us that Ahab and Jezebel would rule for two terms. I didn’t call them that, God did. And the Lord said that after they got out of office, after that, Athaliah would come next. Athaliah was Jezebel’s daughter who was more domineering than Jezebel. See Jezebel was sneaky because she ruled behind Ahab, but Athaliah was domineering and killed even her own children to get in power.” [See the whole message]

So Brian Carn saw President Obama as King Ahab because Ahab did whatever he was told to do by Jezebel, which might be a reference to Obama’s top aide, Valerie Jarrett. However, after Jezebel came her daughter, Athaliah, who was far more ruthless than her mother, willing to do anything for power, even killing her own children (2 Kings 11:1).

During the reign of King Ahab and President Obama’s terms, Jezebel stayed behind the scenes, but Athaliah stepped into the limelight, ruling outright as Queen over the land of Judah for six years (2 Kings 11:3). In the seventh year of her reign she was finally overthrown from within and put to death, just like her mother.

Brian Carn’s description of this woman fits what William Branham and I both saw. Putting it all together, she will be cruel, ruthless, wicked, and cunning. She will rule as a tyrant with complete power over the people. She will unleash the mass murder of the American people after her election in 2020.

Not Hillary Clinton:

It seems unlikely the woman is Hillary Clinton for two reasons.

  1. First, the woman does not get elected until 2020, which means Hillary Clinton would have to make a big comeback in 2020 after losing to Donald Trump in 2016. Since she is already 69 years old, she would be 73 years old in 2020. Considering her age and her recent health problems, which have already received a lot of attention this year, it seems unlikely she has that much gas left in her tank.
  2. Second, William Branham described the woman as beautiful. Not very many 73 year old women are described as beautiful, and whatever beauty Hillary once had has already faded. It seems more likely to be a younger woman.

What About the Next Four Years?

I believe God has given us a warning about what is coming in 2020, but what happens between now and then?

In my dream, after I spoke with this woman, I saw America had been through some very difficult times. I saw the American people were holding onto a false hope that everything would be okay because they were believing lies fed to them through the mainstream news media, which acted as a propaganda machine for the federal government.  The people blindly believed our government had plans in place to fix everything, but the real plan was to plunder their wealth and then kill them.

So I believe between now and 2020, America is going to experience great problems, but most people will continue to believe everything is going to be okay. The sad truth is the government has no plans to fix the problems. In fact, they are the ones causing the problems. It reminds me of a famous warning given by another U.S. President:

“In these current difficult economic times, government is not the answer to the problem, government is the problem.”
– Ronald Reagan

Great trouble is coming in the next four years and is not going to go away, but will increase to a new level with the return of an evil woman in 2020. Things will not be as they appear and lies will fill the airways. Most people will be deceived until the very end.

Obama’s Phony Departure:

Then I saw President Obama leaving the country under the pretense of a routine trip overseas, but in reality he was leaving permanently because he knew what was coming and because it was time for him to begin his next assignment.

As I was standing there looking up into the sky watching Obama’s plane fly away I heard someone behind me say, “He has completed his assignment here. He is now moving on to his next assignment. He is truly the antichrist.”

In a separate vision, God showed me President Obama is the one who fulfills Daniel 11:39. He is the one who will take action against the strongest fortress on earth, the United States, to prepare the way for the coming beast kingdom. However, Daniel 11:39 does not say he will destroy the strongest fortress, just that he will take action against it. He completes his assignment and moves on prior to the final destruction.

Even if President Obama never does anything else, he has already succeeded in completing his assignment with many actions taken against our nation. Here is a short list of his accomplishments during his two terms:

  • He more than doubled our national debt from $9 trillion to $20 trillion.
  • Instead of working on solutions for our struggling economy, his priority was a government takeover of our health care system, which has been a disaster.
  • He appointed two radically anti-American Supreme Court judges, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, who provided the decisive votes to redefine marriage.
  • He enabled Iran to build nuclear weapons.
  • He ignited chaos throughout the Middle East including the total destruction of Libya and Syria.
  • He lost America’s dominant role in the Middle East.
  • He signed countless executive orders advancing his agenda of destroying our nation.

Even though I saw Obama leaving the country, his agenda remained very much alive because he left the final phase in the hands of this woman whom he appointed. She reported to him, but it was unclear whether or not she would continue reporting to him after his departure. The fact that Obama appointed her for this assignment indicates her position in 2020 will be decided by him and not by the people.

Conclusion:

This dream reveals great trouble coming in the United States, but at least we have more time before the mass murder of the American people begins. As bad as it sounds, the return of this woman in 2020 is good news because it means we have a little more time. Recent increases in tensions between the United States and Russia makes it look like war could start any day now, but I believe America will survive at least four more years by the grace of God.

Each of us must seek God for confirmation and direction about whether or not we should leave the country because He might want some of us to stay here to complete special assignments during those difficult times. Our goal is not survival, but obedience. However, since God is the one sounding the alarm by giving His people dreams and visions, I believe He wants many of us to leave.

The dates provided by the woman in this dream revealed more about 2020 than what happens between now and then. I saw other events leading up to her return, including a period of great trouble in our nation and President Obama’s departure, but there were no dates given for those events. If President Obama departs before she returns, there would be a gap between the end of his term and the start of her term, which means someone else could occupy the White House between now and 2020. However, the woman reported directly to Obama, which suggests continuity between their terms, so we’ll just have to wait to see how it plays out.

Whoever occupies the White House between now and 2020 will likely depart when she returns in 2020. That person will likely be blamed for the great trouble coming during the next four years, which might explain why they are removed from power in 2020. Since Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and this unknown woman are all on the same team and all working for the same shadow government, perhaps the blame is placed on a scapegoat, like Donald Trump.

James Bailey

Author: James Bailey

James Bailey is an author, business owner, husband and father of two children. His vision is to broadcast the good news of Jesus Christ through blog sites and other media outlets.

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Carmackian
Carmackian
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October 27, 2016 6:48 pm
James, I hope you don’t mind me using this platform as a prayer request. It is very important. I come from a large family of non believers. I just learned yesterday that my 65 year old uncle who I love very much is signing his advanced directives and being sent home from hospital today for end stage congestive heart failure and kidney failure. He has weeks to months before he crosses over to the other side. I am flying into Reno Nv tomorrow to see him for his 65 bday party. He is very emotional and scared… Struggling to breath. It is close. He and the other family members have always been very proud strong men… Too proud I’m afraid. I feel led by the Holy Spirit to drop everything and fly there tomorrow from texas and be present at the party where three generations of Carmack’s will be represented …the vast majority of them unsaved. I am going out of love for one primary reason… To tell them about the love of Jesus Christ and to lead them to salvation if they are willing. I’ve never done anything close to this before. I am stepping out in faith and believing that the One in me is greater than the one in this world . This family has had many unresolved family issues and curses over the years that are still lingering…. A lot of bad fruit has been sewn. I am going into enemy territory. I KNOW The Lord will be with me. I have been praying and fasting this week and have other prayer warriors involved including mrs Linda clay. I am humbily asking for your prayers brothers and sisters. Please send up some prayers for Clyde “poncho” Carmack and the extended Carmack family. Please pray for myself… Read more »
Gary
Gary
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October 27, 2016 10:17 pm

Heavenly Father, in the precious Name of Jesus, I pray for salvation for the entire Carmack Family. I ask that the Holy Spirit would be poured out upon every person attending this 65th birthday party and that all chains would be broken. I pray for a safe flight tomorrow for our brother, David and I ask that he would be used mightily to share the Gospel with his extended family. Amen and AMEN!

Susan
Susan
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October 28, 2016 11:28 am

David, Just want you to know I am a deliverance minister and have heard your prayers and am interceding for you and your whole family. I am repenting on behalf of all your family for any sins and coming before the throne of grace to ask that all strongholds of the enemy be broken and that they all may hear and accept the truth of the gospel. Bless you brother.

Carmackian
Carmackian
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October 28, 2016 3:19 pm

That is awesome susan. Thx you so much. I appreciate your prayers and all those who are/have prayed. By the way, that is a lovely picture:)

Karen Sue
Karen Sue
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October 28, 2016 3:28 pm

Remittance…

Rachelle
Rachelle
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October 27, 2016 7:19 pm

David, I will be praying for you! I have the same issue with my family. I’m not sure anyone other than my mother is saved. My father is in his 70’s and has so many issues, mentally and physically. It’s amazing he’s alive and he’s most definitely NOT saved. He wants no part of it, as he is “Catholic”, and is a “good person”, as he puts it. I pray God blesses your trip and your entire family receives your message of salvation.

Carmackian
Carmackian
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October 28, 2016 2:14 pm

I’ve had one wild day so far. It’s been interesting but The Lord got me to the airport on time even when it was looking uncertain. I am grateful for all of the amazing prayers and words of encouragment and wonderful insight. God bless you all. The z3 family is in my heart and prayers. Not sure if I will be seeing the family tonight… At this point I’m just being led.. Like a tiny boat on the ocean being steered by a emormous wave that is taking me into uncharted waters..,, even though Im tempted to pick up an oar an paddle I realize now that it’s better to just sit back and enjoy and praise the ride. P We shall see what The Lord has in mind!

Lynne NZ
Lynne NZ
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October 27, 2016 7:03 pm

Will lift you up in prayer. Go get ’em Carmackian!

Stella
Stella
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October 28, 2016 6:28 am

Hello Carmackian, the battle is not yours, but the Lord’s. Know that it is not by power, it is not by might, but by the Spirit of the Lord. The Lord will go ahead of you, just stand aside and you will see His salvation and deliverance upon your family. You will return brother, with great testimonies. We pray journey mercies over your going and returning and the Lord will help you and preserve you in Jesus name, amen. It is well with your family.

Susan
Susan
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October 28, 2016 11:32 am

Oh, by the way, the picture posted on my comment is not me. LOL (It’s my husband) Don’t know how that happened as I didn’t choose a picture.

Joe
Joe
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October 28, 2016 8:23 am

Carmackian
Acts 16:31. Holy spirit revealed to Pr Benny Hinn to claim these verses for the salvation of his family. He obeyed and what his prayers could not achieve in years was made possible in couple of days.

Jodi Stanley
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October 28, 2016 6:48 am

Mr. Carmack! See yourself in the spirit! This is a MIGHTY WORK you will do! The Holy Spirit and the Lion of Judah are with you, we will PRAY for your words to be those of the GREAT I AM! Powerful because you are a willing vessel! This is a great sign of Heaven that you do NOT need to fear! Father God, impart your holy fire on this man and let his loved ones be transformed, yet not by our will Father, but YOURS in the name of Jesus, we pray boldly knowing that it is your desire that NONE be lost! Give him the words only you can give! Let him be received as a holy warrior fighting for the Kingdom of Glory. Let his uncle soften! Holy Spirit, prepare this man’s heart! Let him be saved from the precipice! Flood your love and forgiveness over him like a waterfall! Father, give him your inspiration to believe. And let Mr. Carmack feel your presence, praying continually. For it is not up to us to convert a single person, it is up to us to boldly share the TRUTH. There is no power greater than you LORD! Let it pour out on this family now! In the name of the RISEN SAVIOR we pray, Amen!

Susan
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October 29, 2016 3:38 pm

Anen, amen, amen. Lovely prayer! Let it be, Abba, let it be!

Brenda
Brenda
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October 29, 2016 1:16 pm

Just found this and pray ardently for your empowerment and that their hearts are good soil made ready by the HS to receive the gospel. Much prayer for this situation.

Stephen Ellis
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October 27, 2016 9:55 pm

David – As you ask, may the Almighty One grant it. We look forward to hearing of what will be a memorable event. Shalom.

Peggy A.
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November 5, 2016 12:04 am

Carmackian,
Prayers are with you. May the Holy Spirit move mightily and may you one day win a “Soul-Winners Crown” at the Bema Seat of Jesus Christ. Salvation is VERY important to Jesus, and we are all called to do this work of “an evangelist.”
May we all “take a page out of your book” in your willingness and obedience to this blessed work.

Carmackian
Carmackian
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November 8, 2016 6:56 pm

Thx you for those kind words Peggy. I am grateful for your prayers. Trying to bring my family to Christ has been quite a challenge. The enemy has been deeply rooted in their lives for generations now… But I can clearly see God is at work in them and I’m grateful to be a part of it. I would absolutely love the soul winners crown. I am committed to telling people about Jesus…but learning HOW to do that has been my biggest challenge. There is still too much ME in the process and not enough of HIM….which I think is one reason why I’ve had mixed results. Like many of us, i am still “learning on the job” so to speak.

Olti
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October 27, 2016 6:03 pm

James, while I thank you for your efforts to keep this website’s community informed, regarding this message I’m afraid you are missing a detail in your interpretation. If you are correct regarding the day-years, and that this woman is going to take power by 2020, you said that in your dream she was appointed in the duty by Obama, who was leaving the country while she was getting ready to take power. If it’s so, than Obama has to be president until 2020, which means a third term for him (in your dream he was called President). He can have a third term only by martial law and suspending the actual process in the light of social unrest, wars, social conflicts, natural disasters etc. Well there is a bunch of credible prophets that have been declaring for years now that Obama will stay in office. Why we should have more grace time. Have we been repented and turn from our wrong ways. Have the so called church in this country repented. I don’t think so. If we are going to have some more times I’m afraid more are going to deviate from truth by listening the prosperity prophets and teachers, and the real ones will be brutally mocked meanwhile. Let us wait and see some more days what is going to happen. May God be with us all in Jesus name and His will be done on earth and in us as it is in heaven.

mem
mem
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October 27, 2016 6:26 pm

Olti – That is a good point, I was wondering the same thing about Obama appointing her to the duty. Obviously he would be in the third term if he had the power to do that

How many more babies will be murdered in four more years? How many more gay marriages will be performed? How much more iniquity will be poured into the cup of God’s wrath for this country? I am weary of the wicked having their way with America.

Saying four more years is “good news” makes me feel sad. I understand what was meant, to give people still in the US several years to giddyup, it just what else will be taking place in the meantime while the giddyup is happening, that is sad

Jeanne
Jeanne
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October 27, 2016 6:33 pm

I agree. My cry is, “STOP STOP STOP THE EVIL!”

Bethany
Bethany
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October 28, 2016 1:04 pm

I don’t believe we have any more grace time but if Trump were elected God has given more time for the Christians to spread the gospel and not sit around waiting for trouble to come. We know its coming, but what are we doing for the Lord?? Lets not sit back and watch it happen, be bold, be courageous for God and not hold back the gifts He has given to each one of us to use at this time.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 10:20 pm
I have a hypothesis of how James’ dream could happen. Hillary & Kaine win the election. Hillary & Kaine are killed (coordinated, false flag event) by a “Trump supporter/conservative/Christian/gun owner” (a patsy chosen by the CIA or FBI, likely a mind-control victim like the other false flags) but in actuality, Hillary & Kaines really just disappear to their underground bases. Trump supporters/Christians/Conservatives/gun owners are demonized & the liberals scream for justice. A Civil War breaks out between the 2 factions. The UN comes in to communities because “Americans are in danger”. Obama agrees to “fill the void” during this unprecedented, historical time until a new election can be held, which never occurs because the planned chaos begins & it is blamed on the warring factions of Americans, not the terrorists who are in the country causing havoc. This would: 1) allow Obama to stay in office 2) create the “justification” for stricter gun control 3) kick start the civil war with tensions high 4) continue the vilification of what hateful & violent people Christian/Conservative/Gun Owners are 5) create the “excuse” for martial law to get everyone in “lock down” prior to the economic collapse which will most likely arrive this year or within a few months into 2017 (the global economy is very, very bad). Or Trump & Pence win the election but they are killed instead of Hillary & Kaine. So then the Christian/Conservative/Gun Owners take to the street to “take back the country”, locked & loaded. All 5 conditions as above still hold true & the Conservatives/Christian/Trump Supporters/Gun Owners are blamed for the Civil War & Martial Law that occurs. Lest you think this is far-fetched, I believe the plans are underway right now. Read Dave Hodges, The Common Sense Show – http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/10/24/massive-false-flag-planned-by-clinton-democrats-mike-adams-and-dave-hodges/. Read The Health Ranger, Natural… Read more »
Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 11:21 pm

I left out something very relevant to my hypothesis of how James’ dream could occur, under EITHER SCENARIO, the Trump Supporters/Christians/Gun Owners/Conservatives are BLAMED for the Nation’s problems (violence, chaos, civil unrest, death, destruction, crimes, etc.) & the ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! They become the perfect scapegoats to cover the Elite’s crimes & greed. Popular opinion is turned AGAINST this group of people so that when this group is rounded up & sent to FEMA camps or persecuted in the streets, others believe they deserve it & do nothing to help these people but actively “turn these people in” to Authorities. . Just like the Nazis lied to the world about what dirty & criminal people the Jews were who stole their wealth & jobs, a similar type of slander narrative will be employed. People in the U.S. Will be experiencing the worst living conditions since the Great Depression & they will blame this group for the downfall in their quality of lives. Brings to mind John 15:18, “If the world hates you, keep in mind it hated me first.”

Just remember the ongoing narrative of the Left & Obama about the Right for the past 8 years. DHS taught our military & police that Conservative/Christian/Gun Owners are terrorists! http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/do-you-qualify-as-a-domestic-terrorist_04062011

This “set up” has been underway for some time now – http://www.infowars.com/homeland-security-report-lists-liberty-lovers-as-terrorists/

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 28, 2016 7:39 pm

So here might be the SET UP for Obama to remain in office! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/watergates-carl-bernstein-fbi-wouldnt-reopen-probe-unless-it-real-bombshell

Hillary wins with major help from the Globalist & rigged voting machines. FBI then finds Hillary “guilty”. Something happens to Kaine & Obama remains in office during these “unprecedented” times!

If the Globalists’ will prevails, I believe everything starts fairly quickly (i.e. The chaos, persecution of Christians & dissidents, FEMA camps, full blown WWIII). If the people’s will prevails, chaos starts but it occurs much more slowly.

Julie Bucker
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October 28, 2016 9:07 am

That is what I said to my husband yesterday: no matter what happens, Trump supporters will be blamed.

Bob Adolph
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October 28, 2016 9:44 am

Julie, as much as I love Trump I guard myself from putting my hope in him because everything that has transpired in the past 75 years points to America’s and the world’s demise/judgment. It won’t be a pretty finish except for the saved who will escape, Luke 21:36.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 28, 2016 2:10 pm

I agree Julie as this narrative against anyone that is anti-abortion, Christian, supports the Constitution including gun rights, etc. has been ongoing for the past 7 1/2 years. There is a MASSIVE PROPAGANDA EFFORT being done by this Administration, people in top positions in the government & the main stream media to get the masses to believe these individuals are dangerous & most likely to be “terrorists”. I could easily provide hundreds of examples in videos, print media & government statements. Frightening that many people that are not part of this group may actually believe these lies…..

michelle Gibson
michelle Gibson
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October 28, 2016 10:41 am

this sure sounds like a lot of the dreams I have had. I had a dream where Hilary and Trump were at some kind of gathering and they both were suppose to be speaking and there is a lot of people there, and all of sudden something happen and Trump is gone and there is chaos everywhere I do not know what happen to Trump but I turn to Hilary and tell her you have to be president and she said, “no I am going home to take a nap”, and I told her again you have to be president and she said, “no I am going home to take a nap.” and (by the way I would never vote for her.) so in the dream I turn to the people and tell them to go back to their state and find a president, we have to have a president. end of dream

Jeanne
Jeanne
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October 27, 2016 6:30 pm

The interpretation also confused me. Putting all the other messages from others together, I don’t any space between. One thing to note: has everyone seen the reports about BO referring to leaving the country?

Martus
Martus
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October 27, 2016 8:03 pm

Top US Admiral Fired For Questioning Obama Purchase Of Mansion …
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1979.htm
Jan 10, 2016 – Top US Admiral Fired For Questioning Obama Purchase Of Mansion In Dubai

Jeanne
Jeanne
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October 27, 2016 6:31 pm

*I don’t see any space between..”

Rick Chase.
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November 7, 2016 7:26 pm

You sir have become a Judge of all churches.

Ken Roberts
Ken Roberts
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October 27, 2016 7:31 pm

Well said, Olti.

Ken Harbeson
Ken Harbeson
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October 27, 2016 7:57 pm
There are many variables in what could happen. In my opinion from what the Lord has put on my heart, we need to seek the Lords face in everything we do. It is understandable in the flesh for us to think this or that in all that is going on and it will continue to get worse. But Gods ways are higher than our ways and I think he wants us to not lean to our own understanding and follow him. If we do that does it really matter when or what will take place?. Who or what makes laws and governs this country. He is gracious in giving us dreams, visions and warnings but I don’t think we should focus on them, I think we should focus on him. If we focus on all that is going on around us it will consume us. It will take away from the leading of his spirit. Only the Father knows when Jesus will return. We do have scripture that tells us the signs of his second coming but are they not around us now? Why are we not getting even closer to him and dying of self so his love an lead us. Don’t try and figure out when the next thing will happen. We see enough in front us now to know we need to follow his ways in all we do, daily. If we wait or look for the rapture or the next big thing, I feel we are missing the point in his signs and wonders, his grace in letting us know if we haven’t already that now is the time to bare our cross and follow him. If we die tonight looking into the future would be useless. Keep our eyes on the Lord and be ready… Read more »
Konstantin
Konstantin
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October 28, 2016 10:30 am

Hello brothers and sisters, I am from Russia. On the Russian Christian forums also discuss the situation around the elections in the United States. Someone believes that Obama is the last president, and will soon be a global catastrophe or Clinton will win and will be a war with Russia. Also, some believe that Trump will win 🙂

Bob Adolph
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October 28, 2016 12:02 pm

Konstantin, welcome to Z3. Many Americans who read alternate news sites understand how the US has violated the Perestroika treaties made by Reagan and Gorbachev by placing our missiles in the former Soviet Union countries of Eastern Europe, right next to Russia. We have people in our government called Neocons who thirst for world hegemony, sometimes called the New World Order or wold government. This is why the American “establishment” is so strongly against Trump who is a nationalist. The people behind this are the same ones who gave you the 1917 Russian Revolution. May I suggest the Paul Craig Roberts site for an insightful view of the current crisis from a secular point of view. From a spiritual point of view we are at the doorstep of the Book of Revelation, Chapter 4. Your views are very welcome here.

Konstantin
Konstantin
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October 29, 2016 6:32 am

Yes, I read a lot of information about the NWO also about September 11 2001 and about many other things. I am glad that in the US there are people who do not believe the propaganda. Blessings to you!

Jeanne
Jeanne
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October 28, 2016 5:13 pm

Welcome, Konstantin! We need you here at z3! Blessings to you!

Konstantin
Konstantin
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October 29, 2016 6:38 am

Thank you Jeanne. In Russia, we pray for you in the United States. In Jesus Christ we are united. Blessings to you!

Michael Perritte
Michael Perritte
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October 29, 2016 9:29 pm

One spirit and one body…citizens of heaven!

Robin Benoit
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October 29, 2016 9:29 am

Hi Konstantin, not sure if you have ever heard about Paul Begley but he is an awesome resource in regards to end time prophesy. Every new year he receives a list of events from the Lord that will happen that year. Well this year, 2016 he received a list of 16 prophetic events that should happen. One event on the list was: ‘The American election will shock the world.’ In my opinion, for the world to be shocked i would imagine that neither of the current candidates will take office. You might want to check out Begley. He is a blessing to the body of christ.

Konstantin
Konstantin
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October 30, 2016 10:41 am

Hi, Robin, I do not know about this prophet. I am sure will visit his site, thanks

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 3:55 pm
Very powerful & astute James. I pray you are correct that there is more time for America. Things seems so precarious that it feels like the persecution of Christians is “right around the corner”. Just look to what recently happened in Georgia? Regardless as someone who heeded God’s warning to leave & did it, I will tell you that if you want to follow God’s Word, you must shake off the normalcy bias. This will “paralyze”/slow down your efforts significantly to “make the things happen” that are necessary to end your life in the U.S. & start your life elsewhere. One warning I would give to many people wondering if they should leave is that CAPITAL CONTROLS continue to increase & things are becoming more difficult. Let me just provide a few examples. My family & I left in June 2015. Since that time, we have watched as our bank has initiated a doubling (1% to 2% for wire fees), additional fees for “excess movements” of money in your account, new fees for using a teller versus doing things online, and continued increase of restrictions with the account. None of these are making things easier or less costly for an expat, especially one that is trying to move their money elsewhere. Additionally, we had to provide 5 years of APOSTILLED TAX DOCUMENTS to get our money moved to where we now live in South America. Then in relation to the country we reside in, the country proactively put in SIGNIFICANT LIMITS on Immigration. As such, this has created a backlog in the most popular department where the capital city is located. If a person does NOT start their immigration paperwork BEFORE their container arrives, they can not use a bond (which can be done if the person has bought property… Read more »
mem
mem
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October 27, 2016 6:03 pm

Reminds me of what I heard someone say recently:

Regarding those fleeing the US as refugees:

The first wave will leave with containers
The second wave will leave with only suitcases
The third wave will leave with just the clothes on their back

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 7:37 pm

Yes. So true. Rick Wiles talked about this on TruNews. Sadly this is exactly what happened with the Jews prior to the Holocaust…however the normalcy bias kept many Jews from really seeing what was happening around them & a belief in a better day tomorrow that never came. 😔

Meranda Devan
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October 29, 2016 2:44 am

I came across another prophecy that was identical to this one.
Its hard to keep track of them all, and I wish I documented it when I came across it.

It basically was identical….

The first group left with containers
The second group left with a bag
The third group was translated.

We had someone write about their translation dream to Israel….so I posted that one. http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/supernatural-translation-to-israel-in-the-end-days-a-prophetic-dream

This very well may be the way the Lord gets His people over to the land in the last days. Its interesting to put these pieces together with other confirmations.

Meranda

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 7:33 pm

Just a clarification on the above post. The capital controls I am referencing in this post are from my bank(s) in Uruguay. However, my bank in the U.S. Is also instituting capital controls and as you may or may not be aware, the U.S. Banks are set up as of November 2014 for bank BAIL-INS. Additionally as of October 17, 2016, several top mutual fund companies changed clients’ money market accounts to U.S. treasuries by default. Yes, really. Read the FINE print. Due to our ridiculous, by design (review Cloward & Piven strategy & Allan Greenspan’s La Rouche Strategy, economic collapse will occur so it is critical to get to where you want to be for when things fall apart. Whatever time you think it will take, coming from an overall customer-focused & efficient country, it will likely take twice the time in reality. So you are actually dealing with 2 separate government’s pulling tighter the constraints. Just keep this in mind if you are being told to leave the country. It takes time, resources & planning. Global shipping has fallen off dramatically as well so even coordinating a move of a container takes additional time & effort with fewer ships & possibly more complicated schedules.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 28, 2016 3:48 pm

Another capital control imposed by U.S. Banks happened earlier this year with the “timing” & availability of your deposits. The banks, knowing the precarious position of the global economy, created greater “float” earlier this year. I think this went into effect in April 2016. It basically translates to the fact that you can deposit money on Monday, it may or may not be available to Tuesday or later & you may not be able to take out the full amount.

Ed h
Ed h
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October 30, 2016 2:04 pm
Expat gal, Thanks for your posts. You are one of the few who actually really know finance and what’s going on. Your posts are very informed and right on. Most Americans especially the retired folks with 401 funds converted to money market accounts have no idea their funds are now monetized by the federal government and are now basically sitting ducks when the economy fails. They will literally lose everything. The middle class folks who have debt will be wiped out. They will lose their homes, the cars and might even get rounded up for not paying the outstanding student loans they still have. Their pensions as well are now grouped into funds monetized by the government. Their only out is to convert their funds to a precious metals account. The rest will be taken when the markets tank. The only people not too badly affected will be the young people who don’t have much money or debt. Watch the bond markets they are our sign of when this gets bad. When we see the 10yr yields climbing it’s getting close. The bond debt is the mother of all bubbles 2x the size of all the US indices. How do we prepare for this ? Start by getting rid of debt. Sell everything you don’t need to make payments on. Buy precious metals . Do not put them in a safety deposit box. Keep them where you can get to them. Pray for the Lords guidance of what to do. I live in California. I have no intentions of leaving the country. I have prayed about this but have not heard anything. I have family in Holland and Germany but am not leaving as of yet. My wife and I are both from Europe. We all sense something evil is… Read more »
Dawnette
Dawnette
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October 28, 2016 10:36 am
Hi Expat gal. I would like to connect with you. And Jeanne too. Last year when I realized all that was happening not just in government but most importantly the spiritual layer and the revelation of what time it is. That these are the end times, and Americas time is about over. I came to the resolve that we need to leave the country. But after much time lamenting and seeking Abba about going, and obeying the steps he was directing, it appears that “for the time being” we are not supposed to leave yet. That was very hard for me. Because like you, I want to protect my children. All my flesh cares about is protecting our kids. Anyways, I do believe we will be leaving. I was hoping with a container. I pray with a suitcase. But it is possible it could be with just the cloths on our backs. Ugh. But I know we would be disobedient to Yahweh to leave before He says it’s time for us, personally, to go. I TRUST HIM EXPLICITLY to be Faithful to us and to guide us. I pray WE CAN BE FAITHFUL Explicitly to Him! For now, he has done an incredible work these past 10 months in making us ready here. It almost seems supernatural. His hand is all over it. I think all this is for us to be used to help others when the time comes. I pray as Messiah said, that we will be found worthy to escape all these things. Thank you for being willing to share you knowledge with us. I did heavy research last year into leaving the U.S., and it’s NO small task. May Abba watch over you and bless you and yours. May He make His face to shine upon… Read more »
Kathy pruitt
Kathy pruitt
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October 27, 2016 6:46 pm

Expat girl, How can I get ahold of you?

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 7:44 pm

Just ask James to connect us. He can give you my email. I have a U.S. Phone number using magic jack so I can talk to friends & family in the U.S. Unlimited amounts at only $40/year. Fantastic plan for people living abroad to keep in touch. Even comes with a cell phone app.

mem
mem
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October 27, 2016 8:48 pm

can you receive texts on that?! I am constantly scourged by US site web apps wanting to text me a code on a US number to verify this or that…total pain. Have to update my contact info to a friend in the US with a cell phone, wait 2 weeks for that to update in the systems and then skype them, hope they are free at the moment, right before I hit the button to send the code so i can enter it in the web app…ugh

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 9:45 pm

Yes. I am text with anyone at any time with a U.S. Phone number.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 27, 2016 11:23 pm

I *can text anyone, anytime, with a U.S. Number in real-time. Additionally I could text internationally to a cell phone as well if I buy international credit..

Jeanne
Jeanne
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October 28, 2016 9:36 am

Me too!

Bob Adolph
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October 27, 2016 7:09 pm

James, if your prognosis of your dream is correct it is a very sad day for the American Christian family because 99.9% don’t have anything close to the funds to finance a relocation, don’t speak a foreign language and have little chance of finding employment overseas. The average family only has about $400 available for a sudden emergency and is over their head in debt.

Saeng Fisher
Saeng Fisher
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October 28, 2016 9:45 am
Bob, your comment is insightful and begs a larger question- do we run from persecution or do we stick it out and witness for Jesus no matter what comes? I live in SE Asia where I have served Jesus on and off for the better part of the past 25 years. We’ve been walking with persecuted believers for two decades now and we ourselves have experienced persecution. Many I know do not run- they take God’s word from I Corinthians 7:24 literally: ” you, dear brothers and sisters, should remain as you were when God first called you.” Some church planters in very difficult places teach this too- that we should stay where we are to win as many people as possible. If we are going to be his witnesses the best place to do that is in our home culture. Which is reason number one to stay put unless God himself indicates a move. Secondly, when I read Revelation I see a financial & persecution system that reaches to the ends of the earth- Revelation 13:16 says everyone who wants to buy or sell will be forced to take the mark- small and great, rich and poor, free and slave. Given the worldwide nature of the beast system it’s not likely going to be a whole lot better in another country. It’s not just American which is changing. In recent years even the “welcoming/open countries” are tightening up money transfer paths and national governments here in Asia are tracking “foreigners” (expats) like never before. There are probably some remote villages where one could live more “safely” and “off the grid” but notwithstanding the monetary issues of making such a move, living in a remote village abroad is something even most called and sent out Christians can’t do (I know,… Read more »
Rowena O
Rowena O
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October 28, 2016 5:04 pm

Totally agree with all you wrote, Saeng.Early church Christians went through persecution and didn’t claim they were not appointed to wrath.
They followed Jesus and the church grew. As it did in China, also.
We need to gird ourselves,and work for God’s kingdom, not wait for the transport /rapture bus to get us out of here before the nasty stuff reaches us.

Jeanne
Jeanne
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October 28, 2016 5:24 pm

I agree. I live in the biggest country in Asia. I find myself wanting to GO BACK to the states to be with my kids (7) during these times and do what I can there. If our 2 countries went to war, I wonder what would happen to us. It’s a very strange situation to be in. At this point, we do not have a direction to return. There will not be any place that is not affected by the Beast system, so it’s vital everyone be where He places you. If He says go, then go! I read a book once about a Jewish believer in Poland during WW2 who escaped from the Warsaw Ghetto twice. His testimony is that there were believers THERE! Many stayed put and did not attempt to escape because they knew God put them there to be His light.

Bob Adolph
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October 28, 2016 1:31 pm

Saeg, Welcome to Z3! We are not appointed unto wrath and pray always that you will be worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, 1 Thes.5:9; Luke 21:36

Meranda Devan
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October 29, 2016 2:47 am

Bob….

I think that may change in the days ahead as more Christians come together. I think very soon we may see gone the days of large homes with just two people living in them. What we may see instead is larger groups coming together to get through the times ahead. I think we may see that transition of supporting just ourselves to working together as groups. This is why we do need to start getting to know, or at least networking with other Christians in our area….and working together online.

Expat gal
Expat gal
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October 28, 2016 9:05 am

Bob – Here is an article on top locations to “bug out” in the U.S. http://www.survivalsullivan.com/top-spots-us-bug-out/?issubscriber=true&source=nl

Bob Adolph
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October 28, 2016 1:35 pm

Expat gal, We moved to a farm in the Ozarks in 2005 because there could be trouble before the rapture.

Meranda Devan
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October 29, 2016 2:56 am

Great link Expat Gal.

The Ozarks have been prophesied as being a safe zone.
http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/end-days-safe-zones-america-ozark-and-smoky-mountains-given-to-katie-troutman

Joel Skousen named the northern idaho area one of his favorite areas of all of the United states to live in.

http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/this-northern-panhandle-of-idaho-is-one-of-my-favorite-areas-in-all-of-the-united-states-joel-skousen-on-northern-idaho

It just so happens to be that many Christians are moving to the upper north west as well.

http://whygodreallyexists.com/archives/why-are-so-many-conservatives-preppers-and-christians-moving-to-the-great-northwest

I believe there is pockets of safe zones all across the United States… but there will also be a few large blocks of safe zones as well around the world.

I would love to investigate more of this topic to discover what others are seeing around the world. It seems like many of these prophecies are focused on the US…. but it would be interesting to see what others are seeing.

I think moving forward, more believers are going to be having dreams. It would be nice to see more people document what they see….and more leaders rise up in the body of Christ to really teach on this prophetic gift.

John Paul Jackson was one of the few men who taught on this.

God will lead every one of us at the right time. I think of some of the major decisions my husband and I faced….and often it was at the last minute that things nicely came together by the Lord. Sometimes that is how it is. God will lead and guide every one of us. Its HIM we live for anyway. We strive for His glory only…and what ever happens with our lives…we serve just to expand his kingdom.

He will never leave us or forsake us.

Danielle Patton
Danielle Patton
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October 27, 2016 8:31 pm

For the record my mother is around age 70 and is very beautiful

Brandon jenkins
Brandon jenkins
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October 28, 2016 3:23 pm

I’ve felt the Lord telling me to remain silent lately….we will have a lot of answers in just a few months. Of course we will also have a new set of questions as well. I feel a curveball is coming between election and inauguration. A event or events that will shake us a bit. I was given a timeline between 2016-2021. 2021 was given to me with a picture of dimly glowing flame and the words “judgment complete”. I have not asked who’s judgment and so on. Knowing the future can be dangerous so I’ve decided to take a step back for a few months. Thanks to James and Z3

John Barry
John Barry
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October 28, 2016 6:28 am
Kevin Mirasi :PROPHECY OF A VERY MASSIVE DESTRUCTION COMING TO NEW YORK CITY. ALSO A VISION OF BARACK OBAMA BEING ESSENTIALLY THE LAST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: In the Morning of 26th October 2016, in a very tremendous Vision (Supernatural Dream) of The LORD God Almighty, The LORD Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit, I found myself in The United States of America. At the Place where I was, I saw many huge earth incursions (Looked like Sinkholes and Craters). I then asked myself: “‘Can’t they fill these Huge holes with Soil?”’ Then The LORD The Holy Spirit said in the Vision of The LORD: “‘Even if they were to fill them with Soil, more will come up”‘. I got the understanding that The Place was New York City. I then saw a group of 2 people sitted in a place that looked like a Restaurant; they were sitted opposite each other, facing one another; they were Americans. I then joined them where they were sitted; even though I wanted to tell them what The LORD was Prompting me to tell them, but I couldn’t do so as they were having very heated and intensive debate. They were having a very heated debate on the current Political affairs in The United States of America (especially the upcoming Presidential Elections). The LORD thus prompted me to tell them that The United States of America reached its Optimum Point several Years ago, but now is on a Downward Slope. In other words, America started sliding into a Downward Slope, after reaching a Tipping Point. I then heard in this vision of The LORD, that: “Obama will be The Last President of America.” However, I couldn’t deliver to them the message of The LORD; because of their very heated debate… Read more »
Scott
Scott
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October 28, 2016 9:53 am

John…when Israel…then Judah was finally scattered to the world…they were under their 44th King and/or Queen. Obama is our 44th President…FYI

John Barry
John Barry
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October 28, 2016 11:05 am

Scott I don’t believe in chance , patterns repeat and are warnings , imo .

Scott
Scott
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October 28, 2016 11:25 am

John…here’s another one…in the 1100’s…St. Malachy prophesied that there would be 112 more Popes…Pope Francis is number 112! Take care!

Lydia Hodge
Lydia Hodge
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October 29, 2016 9:21 am

Wow that’s interesting

Ed W.
Ed W.
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October 28, 2016 11:40 am

This dream reminds me of the eagle’s beak piercing NYC with 1 to 3 judgments, received in July, 2016. I post because of the sink holes or craters in the earth. That is also what I saw after the beak bit down on NYC:

Ed W.July 18, 2016 10:01 pm
During intense intercession tonight, the Lord spoke these words to me:

“For 2 judgments and for 3, this people (America) will not hear Me.”

I then saw a red-brown eagle’s beak bite down on NYC, piecring the center of the city. I do not have revelation on the exact meaning of this or of the 2 addtional judgments yet. Please pray with me for revelation on this.

Acts 28:26
saying, ‘Go to this people and say: “Hearing you will hear, and shall not understand; And seeing you will see, and not perceive;

Bob Adolph
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October 28, 2016 9:20 am

Thank you John for your faithfulness. This strikes me as very true.

John Barry
John Barry
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October 28, 2016 11:06 am

Thanks Bob & back too you .

Grasshopper219
Grasshopper219
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October 28, 2016 6:02 am

James, I don’t know if you saw my previous comment about 2020 on the article about the mark but I’ve believed that something would happen in 2020 since I received this word format the Lord. I used to spend Saturday mornings at a lake that is located on a seminary’a property close to my house. I was going over notes and scripture references on 3/14/15, Pi Day, from a Derek Prince message I had listened to on hearing God’s voice. I had paused to pray, CERN was kicking back up, and I was just thinking of all of the evil in this world. I asked out loud, “Lord, how much longer can this possibly go on?” And much to my surprise, I received an answer, “5 years.” was impressed upon my spirit. I questioned, “5 years?” Again, impressed on my spirit, “5 years.” Again, “5 years?”. “5 years.” Each answer was more insistent. I sat for a moment, in shock, and reflected on what just happened. I returned to my notes and the next scripture referenced in my notes was 1 Kings 19:11-13. I looked it up in my Bible and I was floored. I really believe that the Lord spoke to me that day and my notes confirmed it. I don’t know what will happen in 2020, but I wholeheartedly believe something significant will happen.

Bimsy
Bimsy
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October 28, 2016 10:46 am

I think the term 2020 vision,when referring to our eyes,is no accident ,it is a phrase from God.We may not know the day or the our, but perhaps the year?

Natalie
Natalie
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October 28, 2016 8:39 am

Grasshopper219 I truly believe what you’ve posted because there have been a few times when I’ve been praying in the spirit and received confirmation that the one world government will be implemented next year around Mid-March and that this will be the same time Elijah and Moses (the two witnesses) will return to Earth to prophecy for 3.5 years. If this truly is the case, if I’ve read Revelation correctly, the 7th trumpet is blown very shortly after the two witnesses are called back up to heaven and I believe Jesus comes very soon after that. I am strongly starting to believe that 2020 could be the year when the Lord returns. I’m going to continue watching, waiting and praying because time is very short and we need to get our hearts and minds prepared for the Lord is surely coming back soon!

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