A few nights ago, the Lord spoke to me in a dream. In an audible voice, I heard God say, “It does not matter where you live. The storm can NOT touch you.”
For my family and me, this has been a topic of concern because I live on the coast of North Carolina.
In this dream, I was suddenly standing on the second floor of my home with my husband and our 1 1/2-year-old daughter as huge wind gusts of incredible force tore through our home. When I looked around, there was no damage, but we were terribly afraid.
Even though the Lord had just told me we would be safe, I felt the need for us to hide anywhere we could. Mind you, these gusts of wind were so powerful we had to use all our might just to make our way down the hallway, using each other’s bodies for support.
We eventually made it to a room where we crouched down and braced ourselves. I saw an open window. I looked out and saw three storms coming. I don’t know of any other way to describe them other than they looked like tornadoes and hurricanes combined. They were horrific and deadly. Two of them were further off in the distance, so they caused me no alarm, but the third was much bigger and right outside of my home.
I knew there was no escaping, so I looked over to my husband for support and told him and my daughter, “I love you very much.”
At that exact moment, my husband and I realized my daughter was no longer in my arms. My husband was shocked and asked, “How could you lose our daughter?”
I was immediately aware the Lord Jesus had come back in that exact moment before the storm ever touched us and He raptured my daughter! Now, normally I would be fearful as to why I was left behind, but I felt secure and knew there was a reason.
The dream then shifted to a completely different environment. Quite unlike the first portion of the dream, I was outside on a beautiful sunshine-filled day at what seemed to be a cookout. People were smiling and seated at picnic tables and I became aware that I was supposed to be giving a speech of some sort.
I was still out of sorts because of the storms I had just witnessed and because of seeing God’s unfailing love and mercy with taking my daughter, so I began to shout, “JESUS CHRIST IS COMING BACK! THE GROOM IS READY FOR HIS BRIDE! ARE YOU PREPARED?!”
I had this sinking feeling in my chest that my message was not being received. In fact, I felt intense resistance.
The scene changed and God was speaking to me again like at the start of my dream. He shared the following three points with me:
First, He told me, “The devil’s plan is to place so much fear into My people that they lose sight of what is truly important, their relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and the coming rapture, which is now at the door!”
Our redeemer is still in the redeeming business! He is coming back for a spotless bride. Ready yourselves church. Pray without ceasing that we may be counted worthy on that glorious day. Do not be sidetracked!
Second, He said, “Trump being elected was Me showing that I AM STILL IN CONTROL.”
It was like the last sounding Trump(et) to sound the alarm to all Christians that God has a plan and He ultimately wins this war. Teach Salvation to all before that great day.
Third, He revealed to me, “When the saints are called home, it will throw the world into the biggest war there has ever been. It will be utter chaos. Brother against brother. Country against country. Such devastation and fear.”
What I gathered most from all this is that God wants us to be aware that just as sin roams on the earth, God is still living and He is still here with us! He is good and worthy to be praised. Every rock will cry out!
Saints, out of all the preparations you can make for these times, the most important is to prepare a home in your heart for Father God. He is coming soon. Are you ready? Will you be called to meet him in the sky, or will the storms surround you with no hope?
Author: Megan Holdford
Megan Holdford is married and a mother of two. She has worked in various forms of ministry with her family for over ten years. She feels a strong calling to impart the Lord to children. She taught Sunday School while pursuing a degree in social work and psychology. She was filled with the Holy Spirit at the age of five, when she was awakened by angels of the Lord in her bedroom and began speaking in tongues immediately. In her late teens, she started having dreams of end time events. She enjoys sharing the things the Lord speaks to her with everyone she meets.
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I love this. I love how God reaches out to his children even before we know him. He is so faithful to gather his children under his wings. It’s beautiful to see such a bond between a mother and her daughter. Blessings.
Thank you for sharing your valuable dream experience, Katie. About the rest of your post, how true! Corrie Ten Boom once said about God, “The more I get to know Him, the less I understand Him, but the more I love Him”. How awesome is our Lord and Saviour!
Katie,
That was very powerful. Thanks for sharing.
Megan, thanks for sharing.
Blessings to you both!
Lord i Repent, forgive all of my sins.. wash me daily and make me ready for the coming of the Lord. Thank you Ma for the wakening. God Bless
The rapture is a real event recorded in many scriptures, including these: Daniel 12:1-4, Matthew 24:15-44, 1 Corinthians 15:51-57, 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-10, and Revelation 7:14.
There are no scriptures describing the rapture as a secret or invisible event. The reference to the thief in the night only applies to those who are in darkness because for those who walk in the light it will not come like a thief, as shown in this passage:
4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief;
5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness;
6 so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. (1 Thessalonians 5:4-6)
The rapture is the same event described in Matthew 24 when Jesus appears in the clouds. That passage specifically describes the gathering of His people together in the sky.
29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.
31 And He will send forth His angels with A great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. (Matthew 24:29-31)
Amen, James. Thank you for clearly spelling out what The Word says regarding the rapture. I’ve done extensive study on this, and it’s very clear that there is no secret “catching away” when one *properly* examines the scriptures.
The lord guided me to psalm 50 3-5 – he comes in a storm with clouds,wind and fire – then Christ gathers his people before his wrath is sent to the world. I think it happens at the beginning of a pole shift when the earth’s rotation is slowed, or stopped. For this reason, we can ‘t measure time to fulfill the prophecy
Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit ONCE, born in a manger ONCE, was baptized ONCE, died on the cross ONCE, rose from the dead ONCE, and is coming back for his bride ONCE (NOT TWICE, the thief in the night is for those who are asleep and unawares).
So I am assuming that we are in agreement that the “rapture” and the 2nd Coming are the same event.
so, in light of your understanding of how you believe the rapture will play out …… how do you explain the following text …… “Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world.”
Rev. 3:10 NLT
Matt, yes! …. while the Lord can preserve His people in the midst of the trib …. an evacuation or removal prior to the start of the “great tribulation” is the ultimate promise that he gave to the church …. if that is not so how else can the parable of the 5 wise virgins make sense since the foolish virgins were left behind and the wise were taken unto the marriage of the Lamb….. “And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut ….. Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.” Matt 25:10-12
Yes, Cliff. There has to be a very good reason for an anomaly such as the rapture to exist and there is a worthy cause: the escape of the church, Luke 21:36. The world will receive the 21 judgments fro God not His bride.
Cliff,
Relatively speaking, only a few Christians survive the tribulation. I believe the hour of testing is during the 42 months of the Antichrist and the mark of the beast choice. Revelation 13.
“He shall also enter the Glorious Land, and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall escape from his hand: Edom, Moab, and the prominent people of Ammon.” Daniel 11:41 NKJV
“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.” Matthew 24:15,16
“Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.” Revelation 12:6
This Biblical safe area is the mountainous wilderness of western Jordan, south of the Arnon River (Wadi Mujib), where Petra resides, and MAYBE(?) representative of other safe areas around the world.
In Rev 3:10, God promises to keep those who persevere specifically from the “hour of testing.” So the pertinent question is what does this “hour” refer to? If we can determine the “hour,” then we can determine if this refers to the rapture or not. I believe the “hour” specifically refers to the judgment and fall of Babylon and the nations as described in Rev 14:7-8; 18:10,17,19. God will protect the faithful when his wrath falls upon Babylon. This will take place at the final battle of Armageddon which takes place at the 7th vial/bowel when the angel proclaims “it is done” as God’s wrath is poured out as described in Rev 16:17-21. It important to note that Jesus returns as a thief to retrieve the saints right before the battle of Armageddon in Rev 16:15-16. That is how God protects his saints from that “hour” – which refers to the fall of Babylon which takes place at Armageddon at the end of the tribulation – not at the beginning of the tribulation as rapture adherents believe.
Hi Cliff;
Here is a link to an article I did refuting the notion Rev. 3:10 is a promise to escape the time of ‘great tribulation’. That notion does not bear up under the scrutiny of the full counsel of God;
https://pbenson.me/2016/06/07/the-promise-of-revelation-3-10/
Blessings;
Paul Benson
That notion surely bears under the scrutiny of God’s counsel …. you will not be able to see it if you’re unwilling to see it ….. At the appropriate time when the Holy Spirit chooses to open your eyes ….. then you will see ….. until then we just watch and wait upon our savior ….. “pray that you may be able to ESCAPE all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:36
Thanks, Katie, for the beautiful defense of your daughter. She sounds like a very godly young lady. I don’t believe ANYONE on here was thinking otherwise. I have four daughters, and I would defend them also. That being said, I hope you weren’t speaking to me. My strongest remarks were directed to Allison, who seemed to suggest that I am somewhat confused by what I believe. I AM NOT CONFUSED. With my first post I was trying to gently suggest that there are 2 (or more, actually) views on the LORD’s return/rapture/? I was not trying to be so dogmatic, but using the Greek philosophical approach of asking questions. This method can encourage us to think. Then Allison SEEMED to suggest that I was confused and that I needed to pray so that GOD would explain things better. And so I then felt compelled to ratchet up my comments so that she and others would realize what I was trying to say. With ALL due respect, NO ONE was attacking your daughter. I wish all of my children believed what your daughter believes and were that close to the LORD. I think that is AWESOME. And so, getting back to the discussion, when pressed, I came back with what I believe. THANK GOD we are still free to express our strongly held Christian beliefs. And thank GOD for brother James who has this site where we can do just that. No one here is forced to believe what most others believe—at least not yet. GOD bless all involved, and may all have the best New Year ever!!!
Hi Jesse,
I absolutely was not speaking to you! I understand your position and beliefs. I actually understand everyone’s position. I just wanted to state that Megan is not a pre tribber,mid tribber or post trib She’s just a lover of Jesus and believes she has a message straight from the throne that people are getting side tracked and tunnel vision and that Jesus wants us to know that He is coming for us and to remember the most important preparation is to make room in our heart for our sweet Lord . I think you are an awesome loving Christian brother and I never meant anything more than to testify to Meg’s character so that people would know that she lives it and God works through her.There is nothing wrong with anything you said or anybody else for that matter. Please talk it out ,be free. This is the way it should be. Nobody should just believe something I say, she says or anybody else for that matter! Seriously there’s nothing wrong with any of the discussion! You have valid points.I don’t know when He’s coming back myself.
Thanks,Katie, and as you said so wonderfully—the most important preparation is to make room in our hearts for our sweet LORD. Absolutely. If we’re ready to go—living a holy life to the LORD—then whenever He returns—before, during, or after—or tonight!—we will be—OK! Thank you, GOD bless your whole family and HAPPY NEW YEAR!
God bless you and your family Jesse! Happy New Year!!
mmm yah. totally blessed. I am not a pre post or whatever also, i am just waiting for HIM who is coming. even the Bible says even the son does’nt know time but the Father only. So may the good Lord prepare us for anything, make us ready for anything. whether He comes after or before what, that is really His business. if tribulation finds us, then let it find us ready and strong in the Lord, If Jesus comes back before that then may He found us ready and holy so we may not be left behind. AMEN
Tasha, you are a delight…such wisdom! I loved reading your comment and about your dream! Thank you so much for taking the time to share that. Seriously that’s exciting!! God bless you too Tasha, and your entire family! Love you sister….I’m excited for what He showed you. I felt the desire to stock up on books several years ago. To give out in those times and to be able to study for a home church. You’ve inspired me to bring them out now and begin reading again. Thanks Tasha!
Katie, your daughter sounds like an amazing woman of God. I was wondering if you could ask her to pray for me. I have been really ill over the last few months, going for hospital tests next week. I have been too physically drained to engage in spiritual warfare. I believe it is an onslaught from Satan during this most important of times. I live in an area of great spiritual darkness and he is keen to remove me from the scene as one of the few beacons of light. This site is a wonderful way to connect with the body of Christ all over the world and ask for their prayers. Thank you.
Kay, we love you sister and feel for you. We are both praying for you.
I want to encourage you to speak God’s word over yourself and to thank him for healing your body. Especially when you feel the worst. That’s when I always thank him for healing me. It will manifest. Fight everything in your life with His word. Before you know it , it will manifest in the physical. Love you so much sister Kay. Lord bless you this evening!
Katie, thank you so much for your prayers and sending love. It has been so hard lately. I live in an area where there are no spirit filled churches and I have no Christian friends. Committing my life to Christ recently I am on my own with my 18 year old son who is also the only believer amongst his friends. Such a special boy. As an inexperienced Christian needing support and instruction this site has been such a blessing to me. It is wonderful to see so many brothers and sisters operating in spiritual gifting. Please pray to increase my faith for healing at this time. Due to my illness I am unable to read for long periods of time but I will listen to my audio bible and pray that God’s word will manifest in my life. Thank you again. God bless.
Kay, I can relate. It’s hard to be alone and see your children alone. -But am so thankful for God saving and setting us apart as I’m sure you are. You are doing the right things. Just always persevere and no matter what this life brings, never give up. He loves you so much Kay, and your son too!
I love you Kay and can’t wait until the day we can meet each other in glory! May God richly bless and protect you in Jesus name!
You have no idea how much your kind thoughts mean to me. God bless you for them. I look forward to the day when we meet on that beautiful shore.
Kay, I will keep you in prayer. I have been there many times. Get into the word, God’s word is your defense in times of weakness. He will see you through!
Thank you Nancy. Just as you must have been posting your message I had a warm sensation in my body so I checked my emails to see if I had a reply and your message was there. Praise God!
Hi Katie, I sense the situation now is just like 2000 years ago the Jews confuse over the Messiah prophecy. They think Messiah is either the suffering one, or the conquering one or there are two different Messiahs. I believe we already know the answer. Regarding to the rapture scripture which generally believe (pre, mid or post), are we already experience the dilemma what the ancient Jews face about. Is it possible all are correct but will manifest in different way? I dare to say nobody have the full detail about the rapture even the endtime event. Like some servants of God say there are several possibility how the endtime event play out. Some will be fulfilled in spiritual or in secret behind the scene (only prophet and seer know), some will be manifest through general public.
If we only “believe” when we “see” the thing take place, then there are big probability we will miss something that take place out of our sight!!! That’s why Jesus ask us always prepare for His coming as He know we cannot see the whole picture. To be honest, by record majority are misfired when come to the prophecy fulfillment. All we “think”, we “guess”, we “assume”, we “believe” generally fall apart then we will “O I SEE” after the event took place. That is the WISDOM OF GOD (as King Solomon said).
Good point. As I see it, rapture of the Church following persecution of the Church. Then conversion of the 144,000 Jews (torch goes back to the Jews as God/s witnesses). They are raptured midtribulation after 2 witnesses are raised from the dead. At the end of the tribulation there is a resurrection but the one’s alive at his coming stay on earth to reproduce the next generations.
Lydia, I love your spirit too! Thank you so much for sharing your thought process and where you are in all this. You always bring a smile to my face when I read some of your comments. i really do connect with you when I see what you post. Love you my sister!
Lydia;
Many are hit with confusion over the mistaken notion the purpose of the tribulation is to ‘deal’ with Israel. This is pre-trib theory, and comes from an improper understanding of Election. Separation or dispensational theology (from which the pre-trib error comes) teaches God deals with the Jewish nation apart and separately from the Church in these days. The claim that the Jews are God’s elect in this day NOT the Body of Christ is a gross error; and reeks havoc on a persons understanding of end-time matters.
This is not in line with the true teachings of the Bible. it sounds complicated but it can actually be comprehended in a very simple fashion by a careful reading of Romans 11. Just read it and believe what it says. It completely opposes pre-trib theory. The Jewish and Gentile believers are ONE MAN in Christ.
Here is an article which explains this is a simple easy to grasp fashion:
https://pbenson.me/2016/10/31/the-elect-of-god-today/
Hope this helps. Blessings and grace to you sister;
Paul
Thanks Paul. It was very helpful. Im just curious as to what your thoughts are concerning the 70 weeks spoken of in Daniel that was determined upon the nation of Israel and how that last week plays out if God doesn’t deal with them separately.
Lydia;
There are several different theories on that issue but I do not have one I would promote as doctrine as we don’t have sufficient Scriptural foundation for that. I speculate that perhaps Jesus; 3 1/2 year ministry may have fulfilled the first half of that week and the manifestation of the Sons of God during the final 3 1/2 years of this age may fulfill the second half? Again merely speculation.
Blessings;
Paul
Thank you Katie and Meghan, and Lydia, I am probably closest to your explanation in what I believe. It may also be that even if we are just here for “birth pangs”, we may think it is the ‘official tribulation”, because as American Christians, we really aren’t used to getting our hair messed up. 🙂
The one area that I AM more cautious in with a lot of the pre-trib teaching is the idea of a 2nd bus coming for those who don’t make the first cut in a rapture. I cannot reconcile that in the Word, so I tend to only discuss His “second coming” (as in coming back one time), because I don’t want to teach that there is another opportunity later if it turns out there is not.
Be ready.
Katie,
Thanks much for taking the time to write all of that about your daughter (and you). I am certainly more than INSPIRED to hear the history of your daughter. It is absolutely amazing and wonderful!!
Thank you Peggy, love you sister.
Hello Ms. Katie! I was wondering if you and Megan could pray for me? I was diagnosed with anxiety a few years ago. There’s a prophecy page on Facebook that I follow, and I am intrigued by/ interested in the prophetic. But I will read comments or headlines that talk about the timing of the Rapture and for some reason they will make me anxious. I am a Christian and know that I can trust in God, and I know where I’ll be going. But these comments will still set off an anxiety in me. Plus I will think about the time concept of eternity and it almost makes me sick (because I can’t wrap my mind around that concept) and will almost make me stop what I’m doing because I will just dwell on it. So I guess what I’m asking is if y’all could pray that I feel perfect peace about these things?
You bet Chandler! Praying for you right now. I want to encourage you to speak God’s word over your life. Find scriptures to combat what your’re having problems with. Like, 2 Timothy 1:7 for instance: For God has not given us a spirit of fearfulness, but one of power, love, and sound judgment.
By walking in right relationship with the Lord and getting all sin out of our lives and away from our midst. We can stand confident and proclaim His word over our lives and it WILL manifest. You are creating your life and taking control over the enemy in your life and the lives of others through what comes out of your mouth! For example, when you are in experiencing the problem ,speak out God’s word over your life.Do it when you wake up , the middle of the morning,afternoon and before you go to bed. Just as much as you can. Faith comes by hearing and by hearing the Word of God! Also,Proverbs 18;21 GOD’S WORD® Translation
The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love to talk will have to eat their own words.
Dominate for God in your life Chandler. Don’t just take anything the enemy tries to make you receive. You absolutely don’t have too. Fight everything in your life with God’s word and don’t ever give up! Hold on tight to your Lord and Messiah Jesus!
Hi, I read from the last sentence of the fourth paragraph, where you state that your daughter went from room to room and broke generational curses of abuse and called out spirits of witchcraft and rebuked them from the family line,
I am interested in learning more of this prayer and breaking of curses from the family line. I want to incorporate this type of warfare prayer in my prayer devotions. Could you help me by pointing me to such prayer approaches?
Thank you.
Also if you ever encounter the need to forgive anyone in your life and your not sure how to completely forgive this is how. You take ALL of the anger and hatred you feel towards that person and place it on the DEVIL where it came from to begin with. Ephesians 6:12Berean Literal Bible
because to us the wrestling is not against blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Unforgiveness will not only keep you bound and hinder the Lord working in our lives but Jesus can not forgive us if we don’t forgive. So we are in danger of Hell.
*Forgive
*Pray for our enemy’s like we would pray for ourself
(Pray til you love them!)
Thanks, Allison for your comments. The whole point of my post is that two conflicting viewpoints on the “rapture” can not both be right. They’re 7 years apart. I’m not confused, in the sense that I have decided which is right. The enemy authored the confusion for sure. As the late Corrie Ten Boom lamented over 40 years ago, people were deceived. In the early 1900’s American missionaries went to China preaching the gospel—the pre-trib. gospel. They were told not to worry about all the judgements of Revelation because they would be raptured out before bad things happened. Then the communists took over, and subsequently millions of Chinese believers were murdered. Corrie says because of that many turned away from the church believing they had been lied to. This according to Corrie Ten Boom. So you see, Allison, it’s not just a matter of differences of opinion—pre-trib, post- trib—it’s a matter of properly preparing GOD’s people for what is coming. Read and study about Corrie Ten Boom to see if I said it right or not—it’s been many years. Thank you very much.
Yes Jesse, Gods people must surely answer to Him regarding what they have said and done in His Name. We are all responsible directly to God for what we tell others and whether we have spoken the truth. If one does believe in a pre-trib rapture then one is not going to prepare anyone for what is coming are they? Pre-tribbers can be kinda “I’m all right Jack, I’ll be outa here”. And there is something not right about that right there! But I could not see that before – having been raised as a pre-tribber. I don’t doubt that many were turned away from the church as Corrie Ten Boom says. But they too must face the Living God one day and He will ask them why they did not come directly to Him for the truth! So, in all of our preparing of people for what is coming, we must constantly be urging them to go directly to the Lord. It is from HIm that our help comes.
Absolutely amen!!!
Amen and amen Alison you speak so much wisdom and have summed up this matter so very well. How can we prepare God’s people for something we ourselves are not preparing for? Very very profound. All must go before the throne of grace with confidence that God will reward those who diligently seek Him with the truth they are after. God bless you and Happy New Year!
Thanks momma Katie for taking the time to share a brief bio on Megan’s life ….. its truly a remarkable testimony on the life of a young woman ….. especially in this perverse and adulterous generation …. May the light of Christ keep shining brighter and brighter in and through her life.
Thanks Cliff, just need to put this out there too , Megan is far from perfect. She has things that she struggles with. Those are her strengths. Gods hands are on each of our lives and we can get as much out of our experience on earth as we want from Father , Jesus and the Holy Spirit. In fact that is His desire for each of us. He promises as we draw close to him, he will likewise draw close to us. He also says he is a rewarded of those who diligently seek him. We are to make him our delight!He really will give you the desired of your heart. Life isn’t perfect but it’s a gift. He’s given us each so,many treasures to unlock through His word and following His ways. It’s up to us to choose the good portion daily. Our choices create our tomorrow’s! His word will never change even in tribulation! God bless you!
Corrie Ten Boom firmly, and frequently, stated in her preaching that she believed those who promote the pre-trib rapture teaching were the deceivers of the last days Jesus warned of.
Very well spoken Alison …. God bless u daughter of the Most High!
Everyman is free to express whatsoever “they believe” they have heard from the Lord ….. it is up you as a christian (your duty) …. to go seek clarification from the Holy Spirit …. to confirm to you the truth of the matter ….. we have no one to blame but ourselves if we fall prey to deception because the bible already instructs us to “test the spirits” 1John 4:1
Hey Bro…… Some people confuse His second coming……where He literally touches down on earth and remains here for a 1000 years to Reign…….with Him coming back to the atmosphere…..to claim His Bride-where He doesn’t touch down on the earth…….He appears for a brief second in the sky, in the invisible realm……to snatch us up. I know you probably know all of this……but there is no confusion with most Christians who believe in the literal and obvious meaning of plain Scripture. Albeit there are many man made church doctrines which weigh in against this because they have a control agenda……..Shalom to all persons here……..
Steven;
You said; ” there is no confusion with most Christians who believe in the literal and obvious meaning of plain Scripture.” I agree. And I can clearly show where that standard dismantles the hoax of a pre-trib catching away of the Church. I have many articles on my blog which do exactly that. You should also check out the writings of James Bailey on this site.
The gathering together unto Christ of the Church takes place at the Second Coming AFTER the tribulation. Plain Scripture. There are no Scriptures describing a previous ‘secret’ or’ invisible’ coming. There are no verses teaching the Church leaves the earth at the rapture. Jesus has returned when that happens. He shows up visible in the sky, catches away the Church, and then descends to earth with his Bride, Then is the Supper (which the Word describes as the Battle of Armageddon! Revelation 19) He is here to stay. We don’t go any where bro.. You have been misled in your end-time beliefs.
Respectfully yours In Christ Jesus;
Paul Benson
whether it is pre-trib …. mid trib …. post trib ….. or pan fried trib …. it matters not ….. what matters is that the bride makes herself ready so that when her heavenly groom appears …. she will be found worthy to go with Him to the wedding of the ages ….. ” so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish”. …… “And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming” …….. “that you may be pure and blameless for the day of Christ,” Ephesians 5:27 ; 1 John 2:28 ; Phillipians 1:10
It matters not? What about those who have been told they will not face Antichrist and the mark of the beast whose faith falters in that day; or those who give place to that deception because of a mistaken understanding from being taught a bunch of unbiblical garbage. Does that matter to you?
Like I said …. IT MATTERS NOT ……… why you say? ……. because at the end of the day …… “the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment” ……. “for he guards the course of the just and protects the way of his faithful ones.” 2 Peter 2::9 ; Proverbs 2:8
Sir……Do you think this is the first time that I’ve heard your position? Mark 13 and Matt 24 are talking about the Natural branch of the Children of Israel and the Gentiles that are left behind. If those born again Christians living till the end were then caught up to our own atmosphere to meet the Lord in the air-just to return back to the earth in a glorified body, where would the marriage supper of the Lamb take place? Do you think a million Christians are going to sit around on a physical table in Jerusalem? Do you think the judgment seat of Christ will be on that physical throne in Jerusalem-where then the Lord would “one at a time” Judge His Saints from Jerusalem?……Then what about the Promise of Jesus…..that He will prepare a place for us in Heaven…..a Mansion?…..If your scenario is true……..we would not get to see the Father until after the 1000 year reign of Christ is finished. Also, when Jesus comes back to the earth…..all the redeemed people will be with Him in their glorified bodies, there would be no one left on earth to re-populate the earth in their flesh bodies during the Millennial regin, because for when He returns, He is going to execute Judgment on those that upon the earth…… meaning death…………for the redeemed will have already have risen to meet Him…………there are more reasons that these to why your philosophy is wrong, but just because you say so, doesn’t mean that you are going to be believed or convince anyone. Respectfully…..Brother Steven
Stephen;
Where do you get the idea a post-trib return leaves no one to populate the millennium, but a pre-trib return does? That makes zero sense. Do you think the timing of the catching away affects the wrath of God poured out at the return of Christ? Why would a pre-trib rapture leave people to repopulate the earth, but a post-trib return would not? Could you explain that please?
Jesus will destroy the wicked at his return, but not every one on earth at that time will be wicked. Is Jesus going to destroy innocent children. Or the foolish virgins who were unprepared?
Endless arguments with two people who are fixed in their positions is pointless-we are intransient …..We read the same Scripture and see two different outcomes. Grace and mercy be upon your position dear fellow.
May I agree with what most are saying on here, is that the Lord
Jesus Christ is coming back soon. whatever soon means to him. I was awaken one morning with the audible voice saying,” I am coming back soon with my angels.” this is what I heard and a couple of days or a week later I was awaken again with the sound of horses stampeding through my bedroom.
Hello Michelle;
That is a very interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. It definitely is in sync with the Scriptures. Jesus will return with all his holy angels!
One of my articles refuting the pre-trib rapture hoax deals with the false notion the armies of Heaven dressed in white who come out of Heaven with Jesus at his return (Rev, 19:14) are the previously ‘raptured’ Church; and not the angels of God as multiple other passages show they certainly are. Maybe this article would be of interest to you in light of your experience.
https://pbenson.me/2016/05/20/who-are-the-armies-of-heaven/
Grace and peace to you sister;
Paul Benson
I do not believe in pre-trib either, but I believe the saints will be used by God to execute vengeance on the nations and the judgment recorded in scriptures based on Psalm 149 and Joel 2.
5 Let the godly ones exult in glory; let them sing for joy on their beds.
6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand,
7 To execute vengeance on the nations and punishment on the peoples,
8 To bind their kings with chains and their nobles with fetters of iron,
9 To execute on them the judgment written; This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the Lord! (Psalm 149:5-9)
Hi James;
I could be wrong (wouldn’t be the first time I missed it!) in my understanding of Psalms 149. But the premise of my article on Rev. 19:14 was to show that the notion this is a reference to the Church is error; as it would mean there had been a previous rapture before the Second Coming. It is unsupported (as usual) pre-trib theory whereas there is strong and multiple witness of Christ returning with all his holy angels, and then upon his visible appearance in the air, he now gathers his Bride unto him. This is the proper understanding, as you also teach, of the catching away of the believer.
I find I get much good feedback addressing these different facets of the pre-trib error individually; and showing the lack of Scripture foundation for that particular element of their theory. This strips away, point by point, the idea the pre-trib teaching comes from the Bible. Eventually some folks run out of steam and say ‘hey maybe the pre-trib teaching really does not have the Bible behind it’. I rejoice greatly in such testimonies, as I am sure you do as well.
Thanks, as always, for your work at Z3.
Paul
I believe this refers to believers, but does not mean the rapture happens prior to the tribulation. Psalm 149 refers to them as His Godly ones. Psalm 149:8 says they bind their kings and their nobles. Angels have no kings or nobles to bind. Joel 2:2 and 2:5 specifically describes them as people.
thanks Paul
As I reread what I wrote I realized I left out part of the words that I heard that morning, “God said I am coming back soon with ten thousand angels.”
One thing we can all agree upon , Sister Katie, Is that we need to be ready, laying aside every sin that besets us, and living a holy life—-and witnessing to others. Amen. Thank you for your wise, kind and thoughtful remarks. GOD bless you.
Amen to that Jesse! That’s all it’s really about. Living holy, obeying Him and bringing others to Christ.
Thank you Jesse for saying this! i kept looking and everyone ignored the elephant in the room. there is no biblical support for a pre-trib rapture. i have searched and searched. i find Jesus Himself saying in Matt 24, AFTER the tribulation of those days. . . . we often add onto what He says what we want to hear. The Rapture Verdict by Michael Snyder is an excellent book that looks at more than these two viewpoints [there are more than two theories about when!] and backs up everything with scripture. we need to be as prepared as possible. only with the Lord’s help will we stand and not fall.
Amen, Diane. You wonder…What part of “Immediately after the tribulation…” do people not get?
It is written in the Holy Bible that not even the angels in heaven know when Jesus return is only the father knows. Jesus gives clues by teaching what will happen before his return. N9 one only the father knows the day or the hour. Only to be prepared.
Spot on my sister and powerful! Please read the code blue experience I had and shared on here as well. Mr. Bailey posted it a few days ago. Especially the part you referenced about not being received! The church is asleep and does not want to be awakened!
Kinda like when you are in a sound sleep and someone wakes you earlier than your flesh wanted. You kinda get mad and just want to be left alone so you can go back to sleep but they keep nudging you and sooner or later they are pressing you and before you know it they are making so much noise you can’t sleep anymore. Some won’t wake until the noise is very intense and then they will get up in a panic and BE RUSHING TO GET READY.
Marlon, after reading your article I read of a similar word somewhere else. So I decided to read the book of Titus again as I couldn’t recall what’s it about (besides the Scripture verse you mentioned). I was surprised to see that nearly the whole book is an admonishment for us to be ready for our King.
Paul also mentioned about a man who is divisive, saying that if he doesn’t repent he is “SELF-CONDEMNED”! (Titus 3:11) (The word ‘self-condemed’ stood oit to me). As Katie said in her post above, we need to continually search ourselves to be ready at all times.
How beautiful it is for brothers and sisters in Christ to continue to uplift and encourage each other in these very perilous times we live! We all need it!
We all will have to go through the great tribulation. Then Jesus will return. I once was taught that secret rapture until God and his Holy Spirit reveal to me that some will die some will see his return. Either way it goes we all need not to be like those five foolish virgins who had no oil for their lamps. A lot of people who grew up in church with me are waking up from the secret catching away. I pray God will open more peoples eyes. See here in Minnesota they’ve already have a chipping center here. Few months ago seen it on the news. The mark is in play. Many countries are now cashless. We all better wake up and prepare Spiritually and Physically.
Antwon, I must say that I agree with you. I was taught pre-trib, but no longer believe it to be true. Many factors in this – the Holocaust, Corrie Ten Boom’s and the Ten Boom family’s testimony, the plight of Christians worldwide who know what true suffering is and have not been “raptured” away from what is torture, martyrdom, etc., and it bears repeating – the Holocaust. I have come to believe that Western Christianity clings to many rather convenient beliefs, that serve our own selfish interests in believing that we are too good to suffer. I can only speak for myself (and this is only my opinion, so feel free to discard it – I am no theologian and not important enough to take the time to debate with), but I, simply, do not believe, that I am too good to suffer. That is the most charitable way that I can put it.
You speak the truth. Its been very hard to convince my family that we’ve been fool to believe in pretrib. I said the same thing about how all those who have Jesus in their heart and died for their belief overseas. Your also right on how the western world will escape Judgement. The western world are the main ones who will lose out from not knowing the truth. God said his people die from lack of knowledge. God bless you and stay strong because 2017 will be a big eye openner for many……..
Antwon, I share your concern for our families. I have some family that literally believe everything the U.S government tells them. Their pastor (and he is truly a wonderful human being and committed Christian) believes it and they believe it, hook line and sinker. It’s enough to, literally, break your heart. And, on top of that, all that their ever-loving government (whom they blindly trust in) doesn’t save them from, they believe they will be “raptured” away from. Have mercy. I don’t know what I’m going to do with them, but I’ve got to try to help them, when the time comes.
Sephora I truly understand that feeling. I mean I can’t sleep at night because my heart is so heavy for my famila
Amen and amen Antwon, Sephora, Jesse and Shammah I agree that there is going to be a period of testing that all believers will have to go through. As Shammah aptly highlighted, some will survive the tribulation by God’s miraculous power, others will succumb to earthly pressures and fear and accept the mark of the beast (to save their lives), and still many others will have to die for their faith. Instead of preparing themselves spiritually for either of these scenarios, pre-trib subscribers reckon they will not have to endure any measure of suffering for The Lord…therein lies the gross danger of that erroneous theory. May God bless you all and may we put our hope and trust in Him no matter what humans may do to our bodies. We know they cannot destroy our souls do we fear only God!
Maybe some pretrb believe they will escape. Many of us are actually expecting great tribulation possibly costing our lives such as many that belong to God have been through including the recent midfle east believers. We simply expect to escape the Great Tribulaion period. But, my job is to not focus on when Jesus comes…but that he comes soon. Such a struggle wanting him to come soon and yet knowing the horror and death that will bring to many. And to remember I may be wrong and have grace to others.
Amen Bonnie! My big sis had a prophetic dream two weeks ago at the same time as I was reading a book concerning the mark of the beast…it was early morning hours and she’s in another country at the moment so I knew without a doubt God was confirming to me about what I was reading. She randomly text me after she awoke from the dream without knowing that I’d been awake reading this book. In her dream, she said she saw us (me, her and a few others) captured by some sort of militia and taken to a large stadium like arena and placed in the centre. She said there were many people in the arena jeering and mocking us and demanding for our immediate execution. Moreover, my sister recalls shouting at the crowd the following words: “THEY (evil world leaders) ONLY WANT TO KILL US BECAUSE WE’RE TRUE CHRISTIANS.” My sister was literally trying to convince the crowd that the only reason why we were wanted dead is because we’re followers of Jesus. That we are and we will not compromise our faith for any man. Our lives belong only to The Lord!
Thank you for sharing your sister’s dream, Olivia…fascinating. I too have had dreams of the coming persecution and have seen myself and others fleeing for our safety. Clearly, warning dreams – so vivid that I could feel the panic in the air and palpable fear, even after waking up. Though warning dreams are rare for me, they leave an indelible impression, that is unmistakeable. I have never had a “pre-trib rapture” dream – not once – though pre-trib rapture was all that I was taught.
Sephora that’s exactly what my sister said about the vividness and panic even after she wakes up from those types of dreams. She’s always had the gift of dreams since she was a little girl with no knowledge of end time prophecy and in 2010 she was having back to back dreams concerning running away from militia who were shooting everything and anything they could lay their hands on. So without any doubt in our minds persecution is coming. I have a strong sense that this year will be monumental. I have been studying the importance of certain numbers biblically and have noted clear patterns and the specificity of God’s usage of certain number patterns as part of he wider story of redemption. I noted that many people thought the world would end in the year 2000 but I’ve noticed that biblically the number 20 signifies redemption. I could be completely wrong but that could point to something significant betwern now and the year 2020. If that’s the case then the tribulation could begin this year. In any case, I’m anticipating the arrival of God’s two witnesses very soon now who will no doubt clear up all this confusion concerning pre, mid or post-trib!
Stay strong my family member in the Lord Jesus. I can’t wait till we all meet in person when our BIG BROTHER JESUS COME AND GET US SOON……
Antwon…Sephora….Shammah: Amen….Amen….Amen. I know this is a hornet’s nest issue. I’ve heard it for over 40 years. So many, many arguments. So I gave up. Just try to nicely say what I believe. To me it’s so clear, but I got tired of fighting. What will really, really, really open people’s eyes is when things begin to happen—you know, tribulation kind of things–like the chipping center in Minnesota you mentioned—and people realize—hey, we’re still here! And so over the years I’ve tried to convince folks. But very soon—–events will convince people—and many will fall away—disillusioned—-just like in China with Corrie Ten Boom. GOD bless all—and Happy New Year!!!
You are on point my brother
You all seem very certain in what you are saying, help me understand a few things:
1) Who is in the sheep and goats judgement?
2) Do you believe we will all be changed as it says in 1 Cor. 15?
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
How does that correspond with the judgement above?
Thanks,
Jeff
Good to see your name back on z3, Jeff. Are you the Jeff that posted that chart ages ago showing the history on FAZ (see below)?…The only reason I ask is because that’s how I remembered your name – I saved the chart. But, you might be a different Jeff. Just asking. That Jeff always asked thought-provoking questions that went against the grain and I think that’s helpful to any community, actually. I’ve learned more in life from the people that disagreed with me, than those who agreed with me – funny, how that works (smile). Not to interject ‘market talk’ into a much more important subject, but I have been wondering where all of the most valuable market contributors have gone from the site (e.g., Julz, Aaron, Bill Weather, Ole Sorenson, etc.) and if any would return to the site as there appears to be a shift in market sentiment.
Anyway, I think Olivia answered your question very well. Great points, Olivia – you hit the nail on the head (smile).
http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sym=FAZ&t=BAR&size=M&v=1&g=1&p=MO&d=X&qb=1&style=technical&template=
Hi Sephora — yes, same Jeff. Thank you for the kind words. I likewise enjoy your posts! I wrote a previous response that appears to not be allowed. So, suffice it to say the reasons behind my absence are not permissible to discuss on this site. If that is truly the case then I will not be returning as dissenting views are not welcome. I am open to correction if I have misinterpreted my comment that was “awaiting moderation” being no longer available.
As far as the financials are concerned, in my years of trading options and currencies when retail traders pile into the market it is time to take an opposite position. I am positioning with longer term options and will take profit to cover my investment and keep the remaining positions in place.
I hope this finds you doing truly well!
I knew it was you, Jeff – Welcome! Your market expertise is welcome…your thoughts/opinions/observations are all welcome…Iron sharpens iron (Proverbs 27:17)
The below article is thought-provoking, entitled “When Division Becomes Multiplication”. It talks about the disagreement between Paul and Barnabas. It states: “Had a disagreement not arisen between Paul and Barnabas, one wonders (humanly speaking) if there would have been a second missionary journey.”
https://bible.org/seriespage/24-when-division-becomes-multiplication-acts-153-1610
Good people, if disagreement is anathema to you, then may I suggest a few things. 1.) Don’t ever own a business or have a business partner. 2.) Please don’t get married. 3.) Instead, go up to the top of Mount Athos and live as a monk for the rest of your life – oops, I’ve been advised by more than one Orthodox priest that the monks have disagreements, too (smile). In other words, don’t take my suggestions (smile).
And, let us all recall, that timeless and touching moment when Paul accused Peter of being a hypocrite. Gotta love that one (smile). Read your Bible, good people. It’s full of folks who disagreed and managed to survive the experience.
I agree wholeheartedly. I have owned several business with partners, am married AND have children — so disagreement and I have been bedfellows a few times ;). I welcome disagreement and debate and if it goes downhill am always willing to work through offenses with someone who’s heart I know or who is open to further discussion in love. But the interwebs can be tricky as there are lurkers who may be there only to sow discord We must be vigilant as there are things that when mixed with iron make it brittle. That’s why I tend to ask a lot of questions, to find out where the person is coming from and gauge the spirit of their responses in addition to the content.
Good points, Jeff…You are being honest – that’s refreshing. We had gathered a remarkably astute group of market savy folks, with a real heart for the L-rd – for example, Julz, Aaron, and another name Danish, Finnish-sounding name that escapes me right now. I think Bill Weather had some Facebook group called “End Times Investing” or something like that, so some of them may be over there. I don’t use Facebook, but if someone who does use Facebook would like to invite them back – that would be a gracious thing to do.
Nevertheless, the L-rd’s will be done.
I was incorrect about my other post — my apologies to the admins.
Hi Sephora — yes, same Jeff. Thank you for the kind words. I always enjoyed your well-thought-out posts as well. I hope this finds you doing well!
I took a break for many reasons. There was a period where there were so many specific prophecies about various financial moves and the presidential vote not happening with Obama being the AC that I decided to sit back and see what happened. God is infallible but people are not. I also found the tone of many of those who are anti pre-trib to come off as not very nice. I love a good debate but when someone starts throwing around “heresy” then they have fallen into the same mold as our “tolerant” liberal friends who will only entertain opposite view points as long as it agrees with their view on the matter. Again, people are fallible.
Regarding financials, I have learned over many years of trading options and currencies that when the retail market piles in it is best to be a contrarian. I am positioning myself with various longer term options for a correction/crash. As always, taking profit when I can to cover my investment.
Nice to hear from you Sephora!
Hi Jeff, Good to see you back. Thought of you often.
Thank you serge — good to see you’re still here!
I certainly understand your point, Jeff. I left z3 too for a long time – came back only recently. Brother James Bailey has the patience of Job. I do not. Someone has to have that kind of patience, thankfully he does. Have mercy.
Awww thank you very much Sephora…Jeff made a really valid point. I too learn a lot from people who disagree with me/see things differently than I do…often times people can pick up a lot from others even if it’s just thinking a bit more deeply/paying more attention to detail. I find myself going back and searching the scriptures for more understanding. A bit random of me but I wanted to mention that you have a lovely name by the way…I’m going to suggest your name for my sister to name her upcoming bundle of joy (really hoping it’s a girl lol)!
Thanks, Olivia…congratulations to your sister on the little one.
Hello Jeff the sheep are God’s true followers who overcome the trials of the tribulation and who refuse to accept the mark of the beast or the image of his name or the number of his name according to Revelation 13. I believe that those people who survive the tribulation at Christ’s return will be translated in the twinkling of an eye with an incorruptible body. The dead who are resurrected will also be changed so as to possess incorruptible bodies.
Alison, what’s the scripture(s) for these three days of darkness?
Hi Bob, over the last few years the Lord has spoken to me about 3 days of darkness and the verses of scripture He had me look at were about Jonah – the Matt16:4 reference of an evil generation seeking a sign but no sign shall be given but the sign of Jonah. Jesus went into darkness for 3 days. He came out with a glorified body. Also Revelation 6 which speaks of darkness but not of 3 days. Of course we know that in the plagues of Egypt darkness fell over the land for 3 days. What the Lord has said to me, is He is going to bring another 3 days of darkness to give all a taste of what it is like without the light and a final opportunity to cry out to Him. So I guess you could say after examining the scriptures that there is a pattern / a precedent for 3 days. Now I am no authority and have a lot to learn but when the Lord speaks to me I sit up and take notice.
Please keep in mind I am still working through this for understanding but nevertheless do know the Lords voice and that He has said these things to me and wants me to search it out and to prepare.
I did find this today on the subject and it uses same scriptures given to me
http://www.tribulation-now.org/three-days-of-darkness/
Worth a look.
Let me know what you make of it, Bob. Blessings.
Allison; Interesting. I believe Julie Whedbee also mentioned the 3 days of darkness. Was it shown to you as literal (shut down of power and communication) or spiritual? Yes, I agree that we are all trying to formulate a complete picture from the snippets given in the Word regarding a rapture, timing of events, and all the details that we want to know ahead of time. Yet, the primary thing we need to be prepared for is to walk by faith and not by sight, and to know that we hear the voice of the Father leading us.
Right on Susie! We are called to seek God and His Kingdom first. Pre-Trib, Pre-Wrath, or Post-Trib the most important thing is your belief in Jesus, after that it’s all about our relationship with Him. A good steak that has been marinated takes on the smell and taste of the marinade. Need to soak up that Word!
Allison
(reply to journal entries as our comments can get jumbled)
That is pretty specific to a literal physical darkness. The Lord has had me preparing for a year and half to assist others also, and has not released me from that.
I dream every night/all night, but only know of 5 instances where a dream was from the Lord. I usually just hear His voice in times of seeking Him. The dreams are very different than my normal dreams as they are flash images that are very crisp, usually early morning after I have woken and gone back to sleep. I wake knowing without a doubt it was from the Lord.
In Feb 2016, after asking Him some specific things that week, I had one of those dreams. I was holding an iphone in my hand, with all of it’s colorful icons and the screen went black. I woke abruptly, with a knowing that our communication will go black at some point. That is how he has shown me other things in my personsal life that have come to pass. He gives me a glimpse with a knowing of a specific thing, but when I ask for further details, there is silence.
Allison, Thank you for your response. Would love to hear the add’l things whenever it is convenient for you.
Jeff I’ve always understood the last trumpet as the 7th trumpet which precedes the sign of Jesus coming in the clouds. Of course the bible does not stipulate the exact time of how long it will be between the last trumpet and Jesus’ return but I do not think much time will elapse. Moreover, I am still of the opinion that the sheep and goat analogy is alluding to God’s separation of the righteous dead (who will be resurrected) and the righteous living (who will be translated) from the wicked living and the wicked dead any who have not believed in Jesus when He returns. I am not certain that this judgment will be played out like a court case on earth, rather, I am of the opinion that God is already reading people’s books of rememberance in heaven and that when Jesus returns, the judgment verdict/sentence will be handed down so to speak. I say this because I think when Jesus comes it will simply be a case of His people being raptured in the twinkling of an eye and those who died not knowing Christ will not be resurrected until after the millennial reign where they will face the final judgment and second death (Revelation 20). Of course this is just my understanding of the relevant passages and I do not claim this to be the definite order of events.
You shine with God’s love. Let’s pray for more young people completly consecrated for Jesus!
Such a word of encouragement for the saints and great warning for those who are playing around in the world. It will catch so many off guard. Thank you for sharing this amazing dream.
Megan, wow, I didn’t know you are Katie Troutman’s daughter, until I was rereading her comment a few minutes ago. I guess by now you’ve discovered that folks have differing prophetic viewpoints. Opinions are like bellybuttons–we all have one. I just wanted to say that I think it’s awesome that you are sharing your dreams and visions like your mother. GOD bless you!
This is the first time I have ever heard someone else share a vision where they were left behind in the rapture for the purposes of teaching non-believers about Jesus and the path to salvation! Several years ago, God showed me the same thing–that I would be left behind, along with a group of others, and it was because we were to teach those who were still here. This is my job; what he created me to do, and what he’s spent my life preparing me for. Over the years I have heard just a couple of prophets suggest that the rapture might be a multi-step process, that sort of comes in several waves, but it has only been two or three. Those few also said they felt the time between these “waves” was a time where an expanded group of people would have time to repent and be saved. I believe God has also shown me that the rapture will be quite different than what we expect. Thank you for posting this!
Ken Peters saw some graves explode in his dream.
So many forget the rapture includes a resurrection!
Revelation 20
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Here we have the FIRST resurrection – (Is not the rapture a resurrection of the dead in Christ? One reason the term rapture can cause many to forget the dead in Christ rising is a HUGE event)
The context of this passage has Tribulation saints (those killed by the beast) included in the First resurrection
Now if the rapture (which includes a massive resurrection of Christians (~2000 years’ worth) is not the first resurrection what was? The Word says first, not second.
That is a very interesting observation that I had not thought about. As I said above, I feel the Lord has led me to understand I will still be here after the rapture, and I have been very upset about that for some time to say the least. I had no idea what that could mean–and especially, did it mean I am not saved? I will think hard about whether what I am feeling is that I might be ministering to others AFTER the rapture happens, possibly in a resurrection body. And maybe not everyone who is raptured will return to be seen on the earth, or to minister here. This has been a great burden for me, one that I have just had to leave with the Lord. It will be interesting one day to see what the rapture turns out to be! Thank you for this insight–it has given me something important to consider!
This fills my heart with hope and with anticipation. It also lends to the idea of the ones who are ready……will go…..and the ones who are unbelieving in a Rapture or who are lukewarm might be left behind, therefore… there will be those who are called Christians in the Tribulation……who will know the TRUTH of God’s Scriptures and then will hold on tight to Him even unto the death……Let us all keep our garments spotless……and our hopes on the MOST HIGH GOD.
Thank you Megan for this beautiful word of encouragement. ” Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man”, Luke 21:36
“For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming”, 2Thes. 2:7-8.