The Bible reveals the rapture happens at the start of the day of the Lord.
This post is the fifth part of my previous post, “Five Proofs the Rapture Comes Before the Wrath of God.” So if you missed that post, please read it before starting this one.
If we count days as 24-hour periods, we could say the rapture occurs on the same day that the day of the Lord begins. However, if we count days as 1,000-year periods like the Lord does, the rapture marks the end of the sixth day and the end of the 6,000-year dominion of man. Then a new day begins, the seventh day, the day of the Lord (Psalm 90:4, 2 Peter 3:10-13, Revelation 20:2-7, 21:1).
Here are eight proofs the rapture happens just moments before the start of the day of the Lord.
1. Persecution is Not the Wrath of God
Persecution includes any trouble that comes upon a believer because they are doing the will of God, which includes giving the testimony of their faith. Persecution is not caused by doing something wrong, but by doing something right.
God has promised to deliver his people from the wrath to come (Revelation 3:10, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:9), but has not promised to deliver us from persecution, which comes from the wrath of men operating under the influence of Satan. In fact, just the opposite is true. He promised we would be persecuted. That might not be what we want to hear, but it is what we need to hear because it is the truth.
Jesus was persecuted for doing the will of God. It cost him his life. He warned his followers they would also be hated and persecuted.
“If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you. If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world—therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘Servants are not greater than their master. ’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also. But they will do all these things to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. (John 15:18-20)
Fear of persecution caused Peter to initially shrink back in fear and deny his faith in the Lord, but after Jesus was raised from the dead he encouraged Peter by telling him persecution would come against him again, but his faith would hold firm and he would glorify God by his death.
Very truly, I tell you, when you were younger, you used to fasten your own belt and to go wherever you wished. But when you grow old, you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will fasten a belt around you and take you where you do not wish to go.” (He said this to indicate the kind of death by which he would glorify God.) After this he said to him, “Follow me.” (John 21:18-19)
Peter was not put to death because his faith failed, as some teach. He was put to death because of a faith victory. Being persecuted is an honor in God’s kingdom, not a disgrace. Peter’s death glorified God.
The same can be said for many other disciples. Stephen was stoned to death because he boldly declared the word of the Lord (Acts 7:54-58). History tells us eleven of the twelve disciples were eventually murdered for their faith. Only John was not killed, but they tried to kill him too. He survived only because the Lord supernaturally delivered him when he was thrown into boiling hot oil.
Persecution has always been part of the life of believers. Many believers around the world are already experiencing severe persecution, especially in the Middle East, Nigeria, and China. Many have been forced to flee their homes. Others have been kidnapped, tortured, and put to death.
Not only have Christians been persecuted throughout history, but the Bible reveals even greater persecution is coming during the end-times. The antichrist will be given power over the saints for three and a half years (Daniel 7:25). He will shatter the power of the saints (Daniel 12:6-7). He will make war against the saints and will overcome them (Revelation 13:7 and Daniel 7:21-25). The saints will be beheaded (Revelation 20:4-6) and destroyed (Daniel 8:24).
For believers, persecution is part of our past, present, and future. Therefore it is foolish to think these things cannot happen to Christians in America or to believe Christians will be raptured before persecution comes. It is already here and much more is coming soon. The wise thing to do is get our lamp filled with oil and so that we are ready for whatever happens.
Persecution is not pleasant, but it is not a faith failure nor is it the wrath of God. So there is no scriptural reason to expect the rapture to deliver us from persecution. To locate the timing of the rapture in the sequence of coming events we must find out when the wrath of God is coming. Persecution has nothing to do with it.
2. Tribulation is Not the Wrath of God
The New Testament Greek word translated as tribulation is “thlipsis”. This word literally means pressure caused by pressing or pressing together, but the broader definition includes anguish, distress, burdened, persecution, tribulation, and trouble. The NASB version translates thlipsis as “affliction” about the same number of times as “tribulation.”
Tribulation is similar to persecution in that God has promised both will happen in the lives of his people. Jesus said, “In the world you have tribulation, but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).
Like persecution, tribulation is not the wrath of God. It is also not the result of a faith failure. If either of those were true we would have to say the Apostle Paul was constantly attacked by the wrath of god and having faith failures, which is absurd. Paul not only endured much persecution, but also other forms of pressure, including distress, anguish of heart, many tears, hardships, calamities, sleepless nights, hunger from being often without food, thirst, poorly dressed, homelessness, exposure to the cold and the elements, laboring with his hands, three times he was shipwrecked, once he spent a night and day in the ocean. He endured danger from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers in the city, dangers in the wilderness, and dangers on the sea. (1 Corinthians 4:11-12, 2 Corinthians 2:4, 6:4-10, 11:25-27). In Asia he came under such great pressure that he despaired of life itself. Yet he reported how God used the pressure to teach him how to rely more on God and less on himself (2 Corinthians 1:8-10).
It was not the will of God nor the wrath of God that these things happened to Paul. Neither was it because his faith was weak. All sorts of pressure comes into our lives because we live in a fallen world where most people are not doing the will of God. Their disobedience causes trouble not only for themselves but also for others around them. This is the source of all the trouble in the world. God often gets blamed for it, but it was never his will, nor was it his fault. He does not want trouble for his children any more than we would want trouble for our own children.
Jesus gave us the solution when he instructed us to pray, “Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven” (Matthew 6:10). If everyone on earth would obey the Lord we would have heaven on earth. Since that is not going to happen in this age, tribulation (pressure) is part of our life. It has been here since the fall of Adam and Eve and is going to increase as we get closer to the end.
Since tribulation is not the wrath of God, we have no scriptural reason to expect the rapture to deliver us from tribulation now or during the coming tribulation period. Therefore the coming tribulation has nothing to do with the timing of the rapture. Like Paul, we must endure tribulation and believe by faith that God will cause all things to work together for good (Romans 8:28).
3. Jesus Said the Rapture Happens on the Day of the Lord
Jesus gave us two examples of how God delivered his people and destroyed their enemies on the same day. First, he pointed out how Noah and his family entered the ark on the same day the floods came and destroyed the unbelievers (Luke 17:27).
Second, he pointed out how Lot escaped from Sodom the same day fire destroyed everyone in the city.
Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot. They were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, but on the day that Lot left Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from heaven and destroyed all of them. It will be like that on the day that the Son of Man is revealed. (Luke 17:28-30)
Jesus concluded by saying the same thing is going to happen again on the day of the Lord, which he referred to as “the day that the Son of Man is revealed.”
On another occasion, the disciples asked Jesus about the end-times. He answered by identifying the major events that would come at the end. He broke the events down into three groups, including birth-pangs, tribulation, and great tribulation.
He said the birth-pangs would include the rise of false messiahs, wars, rumors of wars, pestilences, terrors, famines, and earthquakes (Matthew 24:4-8). He called these birth pangs because they are warning signs leading up to the end, but they are not the end.
After the birth-pangs, Jesus said there would be a time of tribulation.
“They shall lay hands on you and persecute you and deliver you up to tribulation, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all the nations for my name’s sake” (Luke 21:12-19 and Matthew 24:9).
In addition to martyrdom, he said the tribulation events would include apostasy, more false prophets, lawlessness, and the love of many people would grow cold (Matthew 24:9-13). After that the man of lawlessness enters the temple and stands in the holy place, which is the catalyst that triggers the start of the day of the Lord (Matthew 24:15-31).
None of the events identified by Jesus during the birth-pangs or the tribulation had anything to do with the wrath of God. All of those events are caused by persecution and tribulation (pressure). Since God has not promised to deliver us from either of those and has only promised to deliver us from the wrath to come, there is no reason to expect him to deliver us from either the birth-pangs or the tribulation and no reason to expect the rapture must happen prior to the birth-pangs or the tribulation.
4. John Saw the Rapture Happens on the Day of the Lord
John’s vision of the end-times reveals the same birth-pang events that Jesus saw. John even listed them in the same sequence as Jesus did. So we can conclude they were both referring to the same events. John’s vision reveals these birth-pang events are released when the first four seals of the book of life are broken in Revelation 6. The following list compares the events he saw to what Jesus saw.
- First Seal – A rider on a white horse is the antichrist (Revelation 6:2). He is the one who comes claiming to be God. Jesus said, “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray” (Luke 21:8 and Matthew 24:5).
- Second Seal – A rider on a red horse brings war (Revelation 6:3-4). Jesus said, “And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled: for these things must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet” (Luke 21:9 and Matthew 24:6-7).
- Third Seal – A rider on a black horse brings a scarcity of food (Revelation 6:5-6). Jesus said there will be famines in various places (Luke 21:11 and Matthew 24:7).
- Fourth Seal – A rider on a pale horse brings death to a fourth of the earth with the sword, famine, death, and wild beasts (Revelation 6:7-8). Jesus said there will be pestilences, terrors, and earthquakes in various places. (Luke 21:11 and Matthew 24:7)
After the first four seals are broken, the next event John sees is again the same as Jesus, the mass murder of believers. When the fifth seal is broken, John sees under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and because of their testimony (Revelation 6:9). Jesus calls this the tribulation (Luke 21:12-19 and Matthew 24:9).
So John’s testimony agrees with Jesus and provides further evidence that all of the events coming during the birth-pangs and tribulation come from persecution and pressure, but not from the wrath of God. Neither of them make any mention of the wrath of God during either of these periods. So once again, there is no scriptural reason to believe the rapture happens during either of these periods.
Based on John’s vision, it makes sense the wrath of God could not begin to be poured out until after all of the seven seals are broken because the book of life could not be opened until then. The book contains the names of every person who has received eternal life. So the judgment of God could not begin and the wrath of God could not be poured out until after the final two seals are broken.
After the sixth seal is broken John sees a great earthquake, the sun becomes black as sackcloth, the moon becomes like blood, the stars of the sky fall to the earth, and the sky is split apart like a scroll. (Revelation 6:12-14). These are the same events Jesus calls “a great tribulation”.
For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. (Matthew 24:21)
Joel saw these same events would mark the coming of the day of the Lord.
“I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, blood, fire and columns of smoke. The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.” (Joel 3:30-31)
These terrible events are not the wrath of God, but they are enough to convince the world the wrath is coming soon. John saw all the people of the earth would see these things and would know the day of the Lord has arrived. He heard them call it “the great day of their wrath.”
Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand. (Revelation 6:15-17)
This is the first time the wrath of God is mentioned in all of these events. So now we can expect the rapture must be coming even soon. That is exactly what happens. Both Jesus and John identified the rapture happens immediately after these shakings (Matthew 24:30-31 and Revelation 6:12-17 and 7:9-17).
5. Paul Called the Rapture and the Day of the Lord the Same Event
The Apostle Paul also revealed the rapture and the day of the Lord happen at the same time by referring to them as the same event.
As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here. (2 Thessalonians 2:1)
In this passage, Paul used three names interchangeably for the same event;
- the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
- our being gathered together to him
- the day of the Lord
Since Paul saw all of these things happening at the same time the rapture must happen on the day of the Lord.
6. Both the Rapture and the Day of the Lord are Administered by Angels
None of the events happening during the birth pangs or the tribulation mentioned anything about angels causing them. However, both the rapture and the day of the Lord are administered by angels.
Jesus identifies the rapture is administered by angels:
He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other (Matthew 24:31).
John saw the day of the Lord is administered by angels. After the seventh seal is broken, seven angels are given seven trumpets. The wrath of God is then released as each angel blows their trumpet (Revelation 8-11).
The significance of angels administering the events reveals these things are being done by the will of God because the angels of the Lord only do the will of God. The absence of angels during the birth-pangs and tribulation reveal these things are not the will of God or the wrath of God. On the other hand, the terrible events released by the seven angels blowing their trumpets on the day of the Lord must be the will of God and the wrath of God.
This is further evidence the rapture and the day of the Lord happen together, both by the will of God, and both on the day of the Lord. It is the day when God intervenes to stop the actions of evil people and takes action to do his will.
7. Both the Rapture and the Day of the Lord are Announced by Trumpets
None of the events during the birth pangs or the tribulation were announced by blowing trumpets. However, the rapture, the day of the Lord, and the wrath of God poured out on the day of the Lord are all announced by blowing trumpets.
Jesus identifies the rapture begins with a trumpet blast:
He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other (Matthew 24:31).
The prophet Joel reveals the day of the Lord begins with a trumpet blast:
Blow a trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm on My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming. Surely it is near. (Joel 2:1)
John saw each of the terrible events caused by the wrath of God are announced by seven angels blowing seven trumpets (Revelation 8-11).
The prophet Zephaniah referred to the day of the Lord as “a day of trumpet and battle cry” (Zephaniah 1:16).
Since the rapture and the events of the day of the Lord are all announced by trumpets, we have more evidence that these events go together, all happening at about the same time.
8. The Wrath of God Comes on the Day of the Lord
The ominous shakings and dark clouds that appear after the sixth seal is broken set the stage, letting everyone know the wrath is soon to come, but these events are still not the wrath of God. So there is no reason to expect the rapture must happen prior to them. So during these shakings God’s people are still on earth waiting to be delivered.
However, the rapture must happen soon afterwards because of God’s promise to deliver his people. According to Jesus, that is exactly when it happens.
“But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with A great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” (Matthew 24:29-31)
John’s testimony agrees. After the sixth seal releases the ominous shakings, he sees a great multitude standing before the throne of God in heaven. He is told these people all came out of the great tribulation (not the tribulation). They are the raptured saints (Revelation 6:12-17, 7:9-17).
Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?” I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:13-14)
It might appear the Lord is cutting it too close by waiting until the very last second to deliver his people. However, the close proximity of the rapture with the wrath is not a problem because the rapture happens very fast, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:52). As fast as we can blink our eyes we will be out of here! A great trumpet will sound and the Lord will gather his people together in the air. Once his people are safely out of harm’s way, the wrath comes.
Just as Jesus said, the day of the Lord has two purposes. It is a time of deliverance for God’s people and terrible destruction for those left behind (Luke 17:27-30).
So the rapture happens soon after the ominous shakings, just prior to the wrath. Then the wrath of God is released by seven angels blowing seven trumpets. There are many scriptures proving the wrath of God is poured out on the day of the Lord. Here are some of them.
- Jehovah comes cruel, with wrath, and fierce anger. (Isaiah 13:9)
- Jehovah comes to make the land a desolation. (Isaiah 13:9)
- Jehovah comes to destroy the sinners out of the land. (Isaiah 13:9)
- God will make man more rare than fine gold. (Isaiah 13:12)
- God in His wrath will make the heavens tremble. (Isaiah 13:13)
- God in His fierce anger will cause the earth to be shaken out of its place. (Isaiah 13:13)
- All the tribes of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky. (Matthew 24:30)
- Unbelievers will not understand what is happening until it is too late (Matthew 24:37-39)
- The day of the Lord will come upon unbelievers like a thief in the night, bringing sudden destruction. (1 Thessalonians 5:2-3)
- The Lord will slay the evil one with the breath of His mouth. (2 Thessalonians 2:8)
- He is coming to judge and wage war. (Revelation 19:11)
- His eyes will be a flame of fire. (Revelation 19:12)
- He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood. (Revelation 19:13)
- Armies follow him from heaven. Armies are for waging war. (Revelation 19:14)
- He has a sharp sword so He may strike down the nations. (Revelation 19:15)
- He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God. (Revelation 19:16)
- He will destroy the beast and the kings of the earth. (Revelation 19:19-20)
- He kills the rest of the people with the sword, which comes from His mouth. (Revelation 19:21)
The wrath of God will not all be poured out in a 24-hour period. We know this because the fifth trumpet releases locusts, which are instructed to harm people for five months (Revelation 9:5). However, the wrath of God is poured out on the day of the Lord so we can expect the rapture also happens on the day of the Lord.
Conclusion
Based on the testimonies of John and Jesus, the rapture happens after the start of the day of the Lord. Since the wrath of God is poured out on the day of the Lord and the Lord promised to deliver his people from his wrath he is obligated to deliver them on the day of the Lord. If he waited any longer they would perish. However, his promise does not obligate him to rescue them prior to the day of the Lord. So we can conclude the rapture happens on the day of the Lord.
The American church today is heavily indoctrinated with the false teaching that the rapture happens before the final seven-year period, which conveniently allows believers to avoid the persecution that is coming. This false teaching has become popular for obvious reasons, but it contradicts many scriptures, which are documented in this post and in my previous post Ten Things that Must Happen Before the Rapture.
The pre-tribulation teaching is dangerous because it will cause believers to abandon their faith when the tribulation comes and they are surprised to see they are still here. This confusion will contribute to the coming apostasy, the great falling away of believers, which is coming during the tribulation period.
God’s people can take comfort in knowing the tribulation will be cut short when the Lord interrupts it with the day of the Lord. On that day he will gather His people in the clouds and execute His wrath on unrepentant sinners.
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But if it says that the antichrist will overcome and destroy the saints and who will be there to rescue? Who will there be to rapture out?
The surviving remnant.
Jesus also said Watch and pray always that you be found worthy to ESCAPE all these things and stand before the Son of God. Matt. 24:44 I choose that option. Also Re. 3:10 Because you have kept the word of my patience I will keep you from the hour of temptation that shall come on the whole world to try them that dwell upon the earth. The seven-year tribulation is Daniels 70th week. The Church id not here. That is the wrath. Rev.6:17. Love you Bro Maranatha V
I agree we will be rescued from the wrath to come because He promised that. (1 Thessalonians 1:10)
If we all die during the tribulation, why does he need to rescue us from his terrible day of wrath?
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say we all die during the tribulation, so the premise of your question is flawed. He has promised to deliver His people from the wrath to come (1 Thessalonians 1:10). He has also promised to seal His bondservants with His seal of protection (Revelation 7:1-8).
Hey James,
When I did my study on the Day of the Lord, I too noticed that it is when Christ comes back as a Thief in the Night. You referenced one verse, another is 2 Peter 3:10 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Did you ever notice in Revelations where Jesus Said “Behold, I come as a Thief”?
Another interesting passage is:
New International Version reads:
Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,… 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 …Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with him. 6 On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. 7 It will be a unique day—a day known only to the LORD—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.
That I believe would be a pretty massive Earth Quake. But it does say that When Christ comes back during the Day of the Lord, His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, not just pass on by.
You also have an interesting parable in Luke 12:36-40, where it talks about the Master going away for a wedding and those that are watching for Him to return are called Blessed. They wait and watch for their master’s return, his return is expected but not known exactly when. Then the parable references if the Master of the house had known when the thief would come, He would have watched, and tells the people listening to the parable to be ready for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Luk 12:36 “and you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding, that when he comes and knocks they may open to him immediately. 37 “Blessed are those servants whom the master, when he comes, will find watching. Assuredly, I say to you that he will gird himself and have them sit down to eat, and will come and serve them. 38 “And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 “But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 40 “Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”
Note we are to watch for His return and those watching are called blessed.
There are a couple of more versus that say we are to watch for the Master’s return.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Mar 13:34 For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. 35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
Another interesting reference, is that Jesus said He would raise all those given to Him ‘at the Last Day’. John 6:39, 40, 44, and 54. Martha also understood this concerning Lazarus, John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Jumping to Revelations:
So the fifth Vial is darkness upon the anti-Christ kingdom. Note, during Moses day, the darkness lasted for 3 days and the darkness was not on the Children of Israel.
6th Vial, Euphrates river dries up to make way for Armegaddon.
Then – BEHOLD!!! I COME AS A THIEF!!
Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Then you have the seventh vial, in which case if you add the darkness from the fifth (IMO, it’s still going per precedent concerning Eqypt) you have an accurate description of the Day of the Lord with His Wrath Verse 19.
I believe there is a distinction between being delievered from the wrath to come, as in the wrath of those who died that rejected Christ, versus, the Day of the Lord and God’s Wrath. (He didn’t appoint us to wrath but to obtain salvation whether we are awake or asleep we shall live together with Him 1 thes 5:9 and 1 thes 1:10)
We are not ‘appointed’ to God’s Wrath, but we can go thru it since the Wrath of God is for the Children of disobedience Col 3:6, it is for the Sinners Isa 13:9, it is for the Proud and the Lofty, Isa 2:11-12, and God will pour out His wrath on His adversaries Jer 46:10.
However, Believers’ are to seek meekness and seek righteous in the day of the Lord’s wrath so that we may be hid and to watch for His return.
Zep 2:2 Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD’S anger come upon you. 3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD’S anger.
Also, you have Joel, calling for priest and elders calling for a sacred assembly during the Day of the Lord.
Joe 1:13 Gird yourselves and lament, you priests; Wail, you who minister before the altar; Come, lie all night in sackcloth, You who minister to my God; For the grain offering and the drink offering Are withheld from the house of your God. 14 Consecrate a fast, Call a sacred assembly; Gather the elders And all the inhabitants of the land Into the house of the LORD your God, And cry out to the LORD. 15 Alas for the day! For the day of the LORD is at hand; It shall come as destruction from the Almighty.
Joel 2:11-17 and Joel 3:11-16 …16 …But the LORD will be a shelter for His people, And the strength of the children of Israel.
Don’t forget, we are grafted in, not a separate set of followers.
In case you are wanting a New Testament scripture, though it reference the Old Testament.
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
So, those watching for Christ return is called Blessed, Christ return happens at the last day of God’s wrath and we are to seek Him during that time so that we may be hid from His Wrath.
Ergo, the Day of the Lord is not only the sixth seal, it is also the seventh vial. and if you read the seventh trumpet and the seventh vial side by side, they are identical.
Hope that clears up the view point I’m trying to express,
Thanks and God Bless,
Creed
The day of the Lord only comes like a thief to those who do not know the Lord. For the righteous, it does not come like a thief, as shown here.
1 Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you.
2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.
3 While they are saying, “Peace and safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.
4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief;
5 for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness;
6 so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober.
7 For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night.
8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. (1 Thessalonians 5:1-8)
It is not the sixth seal, but it does begin there. It is not a 24 hour day, as revealed by many scriptures. For example, the locusts are instructed to harm the unrighteous for five months. (Revelation 9:5) Also, Peter explains it includes events that happen at the end of the millenial reign, so it lasts one thousand years. It is the seventh day, following six days of man’s dominion.
8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. (2 Peter 3:8-10)
I believe the day of the lord and the day of Christ are two different events. The rapture happens on the day of Chfrist . the day of the lord is at the end of the tribulation.
Do you have any scriptures to support that? It sounds like an attempt to make the pre-trib rapture theory work, but without any scriptures to back it up.
We Christians thinks that persecution is only when a missionary goes out to other places and their been killed by the gentile nation. we thinks that is only a people that were killed by announcing their faith are only people that are been persecuted. we have forgotten that spiritual persecution and the world of darkness is also at war. When you are of God, the world of darkness know who you are. they starts to wage war right even from your immediate environment. Let me ask a question? When the persecution started in the church, John was killed by Herod while John was delivered because of the earnest prayer of the saints. Apostle Paul decided his by giving himself unto death for the sake of the gospel . John was delivered from the squadron of oil and became the last of all the apostles to die peacefully while serving a exiled term in the island of patmos.
God delivered from persecution at his own will if we stand firm and steady in his leading and direction via prayers and petition always. but most take persecution as a thing of Joy for them. Although its a requirement and it must happen to all Christians and not just ordinary believer. People go for mission trip into dangerous places without properly seeking the face and direction of God. Christ said go into all the nations. who are the nations. the nations starts from our immediate environment. Those that go on mission trips are the one that God specifically instructs them to go to such places. If God is leading you to a place he will equip you with all you need for the demonstration of his holiness and power. Before the Apostles embark on the calling they were equipped with the power of the holy spirit from on high to demonstrate the presence of Jesus Christ. most people go on mission trip without waiting patiently tom receive the power of the holy spirit before embarking on such Journey. where ever the apostles go, they preached and the power of the holy spirit comes down and they are saved as well. we go out into mission trip without having the true knowledge of what we are going there to do. it is not just to preach alone. but to be baptized with the holy spirit and not only with water.
Is the Day of the Lord on the Day of Trumpet or the Day of Atonement.
According to Isaiah, the Day of the Lord is a one year event and covers both the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments. Isaiah 34:8; Isaiah 61:2; Isaiah 63:4= Ezekiel 4:6; Num 14:34.
Joel 2 has the reference to Day of the Lord. (Joel 2:1).
Joel 2:15=Lev. 23:27-34 (Day of Atonement). Day of Atonement Trumpet is also the LAST Trumpet.
Cross References: Rev. 2:10 is ten Days of Tribulation where a Day = a year.
Ezekiel 4:6; Numbers 14:34
Day of Trumpet is the rapture. Day of Trumpet verses: Lev. 23:24-26; Zeph 1:14-16 (Day of Trumpet and Alarm for Day of the Lord); Matt 24:31–At the sound of the Trumpet; I Cor 15:52; I Thess 4:16-18; Rev. 11:15th–Last Trumpet; Rev 12:1 Day of Trumpet (2017); Giza Pyramid lineup of 2017.
Covenant cycle Matt 1:17 The Messiah came, and the promise was fulfilled in the forty-second generation from Abraham.
There is 4000 years from Creation to Yeshua but only 2000 from Abraham to Yeshua. Hypothesis is there 14 generations x2 between first and second coming if a generation is 70 or 80 according to Ps 90:10. 70 generation x 14= 980 years. 80 generation x 14 is 1120 years. So if we use 2×980=1960 +70 (Temple destruction)=2030. 29 ce (Death of Christ) +1960=1989+33=2022. 27 CE (Ministry Start of Yeshua)+1960+33 (Death of Yeshua age)=2019. 27 CE+1960=1987. 1987 CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה). 27 CE +1960+30 (Age of Yeshua at the start of His ministry) = 2017.
http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt13.html; Perry Stone on Sid Roth Tsunamis, Blood Moons and End of Times beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2015/05/blood-moons-and-end-time-prophecy-perry-stone-with-sid-roth-radio-interview-2468942.html; bibletime.com/theory/generation
2017 shows up again. How odd.
Battle of Jerusalem 1917 (Year of Jubilee)+100 generation=2017 (Year of Jubilee); 1947 Proclamation for Israel +70 generation=2017; Sixth Day War (Year of Jubilee) +50 generation=2017 (Year of Jubilee); 1947 BC (Abraham’s Birth)+2017=70 CE (Destruction of the Temple)+1947 (Abraham’s Birth/Proclamation of Israel)=2017.
1517 CE Ottomon Turks capture Jerusalem; the Ottoman Empire exists for 400 more years until 1917.Ottoman During the reign of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent (1520-1566) the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem were rebuilt. Population of the Jewish community in Jerusalem increased. Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenberg church on October 31,1517 which begins the German Protestant Reformation. 1517+400 generation=1917+100 generation = 2017 100 years is the limit of a generation found in the Bible (as defined by Abraham’s 4 generations of a total of 400 years (400 years divided by 4 generations = 100).
What is so significant is that there is a high probability that this is the Second Coming and Armageddon because it fits the criteria of Lev. 25:8-10.
More about 1948 and 1967.
God’s plan was not thwarted when a 2520-Year Prophecy was fulfilled in May of 1948 or when another 2520-Year cycle was fulfilled in June of 1967. Presently, we are living at the very end of a 2520-Week, Biblical cycle. This cycle began the day Israel recaptured the city of Jerusalem on June 7, 1967 and culminates on September 23, 2015, which is The Day of Atonement, and even more incredibly, The Day of Jubilee. What are the mathematical odds of a Biblical cycle beginning and ending on such historic and significant days in both Israel’s modern history and ancient calendar? Coincidence is not a kosher word.
There is another Biblical prophecy that will also be fulfilled, it relates to a period of time called the “time of Jacob’s Trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7). It’s a period of time as the Babylonian Talmud says, “In the seven-year cycle at the end of which the son of David will come…at the conclusion of the septennate (a period of seven years), the Son of David will come.” (Sanhedrin, 97a p.654)
Or as Raphael Patai (Jewish historian who received his doctorate in Semitic Languages from the University of Budapest and University of Breslau) said, “The idea became entrenched that the coming of the Messiah will be preceded by greatly increased suffering…This will last for seven years. And then, unexpectedly, the Messiah will come. (The Messiah Texts, pp 95-96)
This seven-year period is based upon God’s calendar (a 360-day year), and it can be more precisely labeled the 2520-Day Period. We have witnessed the 2520-Year prophecies fulfilled twice. The 2520-Week prophecy culminates this September 23, 2015. Is the period of 2520-Days next?
Learn more of God’s calendar, for He is the “Perfect Numberer” (Daniel 8:13 -“Palmoni”) at http://www.twenty5twenty.net Shalom, Shalem…only with “The Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6-7)
2015-2017 is the 50th Jubilee, 70th Jubilee, and 120th Jubilee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC8vSm65skk
What do these years have in common? Abraham’s birth (1947 BCE) +2017 years = 70 CE Destruction of the Temple; Matt 24:1-2) + 1947 years = 2017.
6th day war 1967+50 years = 2017. Battle of Jerusalem 1917+100 years = 2017. Israel became a nation in 1948 1 to 2 days prior to Pentecost (Matt 24:32; Psalm 90:10) but the proclamation went out in 1947+70 years = 2017. Judah ben Samuel Prophecy 1517-1917, 1917-1967, 1967-2017 The Messiah comes and Armageddon. Woman clothed with the Sun in 2017 (Day of Trumpet with Virgo and Leo). Giza Pyramid Lineup of 2017 (Day of Trumpet). August 21 (4th day event) Solar Eclipse over North America (Propheciesoftheendtimes.com) in 2017. 2017 minus generations 38, 40, 50, 70, 80, 100, and 120 line up to significant events with Israel.
Miracle of the Sun (Oct. 13th, 1917) +100 years = 2017. (It was on the 7th Day of Feast of Tabernacles). Oct. 13th, 2016 is Day of Atonement and it ends on Day of Atonement 2017 with Armageddon. Could it be that the Day of the Lord begins on the Day of Atonement (Joel 2:14 or 15=Lev 23:27-34) with a global earthquake.
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1) End of Humanity and Armageddon on the Day of Atonement (Rev 14:20ff; Rev 15 Day of Atonement Typeology; Rev 16/19 Armageddon)
2) Beginning of the Day of the Lord which is a one year event according to Isaiah and covers both the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments and ends on the Day of Atonement with Armageddon.
3) Mid point of the 7 year tribulation.
4) Beginning of the 7 year Tribulation
The problem I have with numbers 3 and 4 is that if the beginning heavenly sign begins in the 7th month such as 5 planets lining up in a row on the 7th Day of Feast of Tabernacles in 2010, then the end sign 7 years later should be on the Day of Trumpet according to Revelation 12:1 and 11 –7th Trumpet and the only one between 2017 and 2100 + is the one on Sept. 23rd, 2017.
Based on the events revealed in the Bible that must happen before the rapture, I can confidently put to rest the rumors about September 23, 2017. It is too soon to be any of the options you listed. If we just study the scriptures, we could avoid so many of the foolish theories floating around, which only undermine our faith when they fail to come to pass. That’s why I took the time to document ten things that must happen before the rapture in this post.
https://z3news.com/w/ten-things-that-must-happen-before-the-rapture/
Yes Yes Yes, so glad somebody else reads the same Bible as me!!!
The day of the Lord is a thousand year long day. The seventh day of rest, He 4:4. Peter revealed this fact in his epistle.
2 Peter 3:7-8 KJVS
[7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. [8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
It is a good idea to keep this in mind when reading prophetic scripture verses such as the Joel prophecy in Acts 2. The events Joel prophesied will take place during the last days of a thousand years each. The noteable day of the Lord is a thousand years long, but has a specific starting point. Likely when Jesus steps down on the Mount of Olives and it splits in two.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 KJVS
[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
The event Paul is writing about here, is a different event than the day of the Lord and precedes it. The seven trumpets have to sound before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him takes place. Jesus does not actually step down on earth at that time. That takes place 3 1/2 years later, Zech 14:4. Paul designates the last trump, 1 Co 15:52, as the point in time where the body of Christ are changed. Now the Joel 2:1 prophecy is hardly exact in regards to time, “the day of the Lord is coming surely it is near”, is a bit vague. The trumpet blown in this vers could very well be the seventh and last trump of 1 Co 15:52. Since time is viewed much differently by God, 2 Pe 3:8, than how we perceive it, and may in fact move much faster there than on earth. The rapture is the fulfillment and culmination of the mystery of God, which is Christ in you the hope of glory, Col 1:27.
Revelation 10:7 KJVS
[7] But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
To me the above verse firmly places the rapture at the seventh trumpet but there is also the remnant of the woman’s seed who are on the earth 3 1/2 years after the rapture.
Revelation 12:17 KJVS
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Keep in mind that there is a resurrection that takes place at the beginning of the day of the Lord, predicated on how the individuals involved treated those people in the body of Christ.
Matthew 25:31-33,46 KJVS
[31] When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: [32] And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. [46] And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Life eternal is a poor translation and should be life for the eon or age
There is a great deal of information given by God in the scriptures and it is extremely hard to make all the pieces of the puzzle to fit. I have more than a few off to the side that don’t seem to fit, but in time I am sure they will.
I agree the day of the Lord is one thousand years, but I believe my eight proofs show the Lord returns on that day.
One thing that complicates matters is in the 12th chapter of Revelation. The woman, Jerusalem above, Gal 4:26, who is the mother of us all. Births the man child, Re 12:5. But notice the last verse in that chapter.
Revelation 12:17 KJV
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Earlier in the chapter the woman flies into the wilderness for 3 1/2 years.
Revelation 12:13-14 KJV
[13] And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child . [14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
We all have to go through the wilderness experience to be tried, put to the proof, He 3:8, so that are hearts are right before the Lord. So, not all of the woman’s seed was caught up to the throne of God. Saints of God are mentioned later in Re 13: 7&10, Re 14: 12, which I presume to be the remnant of her seed mentioned in Re 12:17. You point out in another of your articles, rightfully so, that tribulation, affliction and suffering is to take place in our lives.
1 Peter 4:13 KJV
[13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
This is exactly what Apostle Paul means when he wrote these words.
Philippians 3:9-11 KJV
[9] And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: [10] That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; [11] If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
I think we can all say amen to that
How could Jesus then come back with his saints?? (he doesn´t come a 3rd time)
Another fact is: the Lord comes himself to pick up his bride in the Rapture.He doesn´t send his angels. And there are no trumpets of angels, but the trumpet of god. (1. Thess. 4,16)
When the Rapture occurs, all saints will be transformed, first the dead and then those who are still living. If this takes place after the tribulation and before the wrath of god , all saints should be transformed and in heaven. What is with Rev. 20,4?? Why are there still souls, that are not yet transformed???
All the saints who died in the Lord prior to the rapture will return with Him and receive their resurrected imperishable body just moments before the rapture of those who are alive. Then both groups meet together in the air with the Lord.
14 For if we believe that Yeshua died and rose again, even so those who have fallen asleep in Yeshua will God bring with him.
15 For this we tell you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left to the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the chief angel, and with God’s shofar. The dead in Messiah will rise first,
17 then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever. (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17)
So we are all together from that time on. Then the wrath of God is poured out during the great tribulation (Revelation 8-11, 16-18). Many who missed the rapture, but still refused to worship the beast or take his mark, will repent and receive eternal life during those terrible trials. Many will be put to death for their faith as revealed here:
And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!'” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.” (Revelation 14:13 NASB)
Notice it did not say they would be raptured because it is already too late for that. Raptured believers are not called “the dead who die in the Lord”. Yet these people are saints because they are called blessed and they die in the Lord. They are mentioned again after the great tribulation when they are allowed to participate in the first resurrection, which is the resurrection that occurs prior to the thousand year day of the Lord (Revelation 20:4-5). The first resurrection is the resurrection of the righteous whereas the second resurrection occurs after the thousand years for the unrighteous who will stand before the great white throne (Daniel 12:2, Matthew 10:28, John 5:28-29, Revelation 20:5, Revelation 20:11-15). So everyone who repented during the great tribulation will be given the same imperishable, immortal bodies as those who died before the rapture and those who were alive and went up in the rapture.
Regarding the role of angels in the rapture, scripture for that was already provided in this post. “He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other” (Matthew 24:31). The verse you mentioned, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 also confirms it is the voice of the chief angel. The Lord showed me one time there is no distinction between the voice and the trumpet. The angels help execute God’s plans sounding in God’s behalf as His voice. They work together in perfect harmony as one.
If the coming of the Lord and the Rapture is the same time, how could the Rapture and the beginning of the wrath be the same time too? When the Lord comes back on the clowds with power and glory and the whole world see him the wrath is already over! In Matth. 24,31 the elect are gathered together from the four winds. They are not raptured!! There ist one passage in the bibel (i don´t know where, must search) which describes the return of all Jews at the end of time to Jerusalem before the 1000 years begin!
When the Lord comes back and the whole world sees Him, the wrath is not over. It is just about to begin. See the comments made by people during the sixth seal.
12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,
13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.
14 The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
15 Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains,
16 calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb,
17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” (Revelation 6:12-17)
Notice they say, “The great day of their wrath has come.” The day of the Lord has arrived, and the wrath is about to be poured out.
Notice this is the same event Jesus described just prior to His return and the rapture:
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matthew 24:29-31)
In both accounts, we see the same unprecedented events preceding His return, the rapture, and the outpouring of His wrath. These include the sun darkened, the moon not giving its light, and a great shaking. These are two witnesses to the same events.
Immediately after these things, the angels gather His people, momentarily hold back the wrath, and seal the 144,000 bond servants (Revelation 7:1-8). Then the raptured multitude is seen standing before the throne of God (Revelation 7:9-17). Then the wrath of God begins to be poured out in Revelation 8. The sequence of events in Revelation 4-8 is not a mistake. They are presented in chronological order.
I think there is a big mistake: Matth. 24,31 is the coming of Jesus Christ back on earth, because everybody sees him!! It is not the rapture and the beginning of the wrath! The angels gather together his elect from the four winds means, they gather his people (jews) from allover the world. They come home to see the Lord arrive. There are different biblical passages that declare the elect are the Jews!
I think there is a big mistake: Matth. 24,31 is the coming of Jesus Christ back on earth, because everybody sees him!! It is not the rapture and the beginning of the wrath! The angels gather together his elect from the four winds means, they gather his people (jews) from allover the world. They come home to see the Lord arrive. There are different biblical passages that declaret the elect are the Jews!
Here is a helpful key in understanding Matthew 24. The events listed by Jesus in Matthew 24 are the same events listed in the same order as John in Revelation 6 and 7. That is not a coincidence. It is because they are both describing the same things. So we can gain insights by putting them together, using scriptures to interpret scriptures. In both cases, we see the Lord returns soon after the sixth seal is broken to gather his people to meet Him in the sky, so the second coming of the Lord and the rapture happen at the same time.
He is coming back to take dominion and rule for one thousand years. He is not coming back to turn around and leave and then return a third time.
There is no scripture to support the idea of a separate rapture for the Jews. The Jews will still be on the earth during the great tribulation, which is why God is leaving 144,000 Jewish believers on earth during that time to evangelize the people of Israel (Revelation 7:1-8). God’s plan is to save Israel after the age of the Gentiles is over.
25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” (Romans 11:25-26)
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Isaiah 48:6-7 You have heard; look at all this. And you, will you not declare I proclaim to you new things from this time,Even hidden things which you have not known 7“They are created now and not long ago And before today you have not heard them, So that you will not say, ‘Behold, I knew them.’ Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
Please clarify : my straying from the word . please make all points know. What point is not scriptural ?
In light of straying , Marriage is a written contract of said Words of promise. the whole bible is a contract to man.
John 14:3 I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.
Luke 17:26-30 The Days of Noah and of Lot.
Matthew 25 1-13 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mark 13:35 Therefore keep watch.
2 Corinthians 11:2 For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.
Jesus was born a Jew. All His life, He was surrounded with Jewish customs. The First Being: John 2:1-11
You Can take The man out of the country, but You can not take the country out of the man. God’s People are the Jews , Do We know them ? This all points to the Bride.
Come let us reason , Mosaic covenant with The Lord, in a traditional — Jewish wedding- ( In every detail ?) , Given by the Lord. Do we keep this in mind, As we read of the Groom and His Bride ? Second , We have 5 foolish and 5 Wise . What of the five foolish who are left ? Does God abandon them and stops speaking ??. ( I never leave You ! ) As Well as the ones who See, and realize they have missed the coming . Come to the saving knowledge of Christ . after The Bride is taken ? This is a lot more people, than we think !!! We Speak of Noah and Lot. What was the warming signs, They received ? When I read Your piece , I perceive Not to worry about the second coming until I see some Devastation first ….? Proverbs 13:12 No need to be a watchmen on the wall – How easy it would be, to fall asleep.
A link to a outline of a Jewish wedding : http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2011/bge811-2.htm
I backed up each point with lots of scriptures. Your reply is all based on human reasoning with no scripture, except Proverbs 13:2, which has nothing to do with this topic. The answers we need are all found in the scriptures. Straying away from them leads us into error, which is where you are right now.
James, your article is a peg in the wall, something to hold onto, and tightly. Thank you! I agree with the scripture, your breakdown, and the gathering together to Him before the Wrath. People mix up that the tribulation is satan’s wrath, with the Wrath of the Lord. It’s by design. When the evil comes and shows himself as God, most of the world will receive him, the rest persecuted, yet there will be those that got it wrong and either will repent, or they will worship the beast. There has always been a remnant, and these will minister truth in the last days. Lest he gather us, no one would be saved.
God has given me a dream about the pretrib.
I was in a shed with other people and there was a cannon like contraption onto which people were being tied and then shot up into the sky and then they came floating down. I asked what it was like and what did they see. They said it was wonderful and that they saw for miles around. I didn’t want to be shot up because I was afraid.
I believe God was showing me that the pretrib is a man-made doctrine.
You’re spot on Brother James. All the pre tribbers I’ve spoken to do not want to know that they ARE going to go through the trib. and even if I come with God’s Word for proof they prefer the peace and safety line.
Whilst waiting on a patient I turned the TV onto TBN channel which I’ve never watched and there was Joseph Prince telling thousands that they will not be going through the tribulation because they will be raptured prior to it. And there sat all these thousands of smiling and laughing and clapping people with their arms raised praising God because He was not going to let them suffer. Some have even stopped working; they’re just sitting waiting for the rapture!!!!
Hi James,
Perhaps I can add something? In Rev 3 :10 the Lord tells the chauch of Philadelphia to keep them from the hour of temptation, that shall come unto the world.
This is only to this church. Now the church of Laodicea is lukewarm and does this not very much look like the church today?
So I think the rapture is only for a part of the Christians that look like the Philadelphia church. The rest of the Christians shall go into a difficult period.
It looks like the parable of the 10 virgins. 5 wise and 5 foolish. I think all 10 were Christians.
So please go on with your website. It ‘s always a joy to read your information.
Many greetings,
Marten
Hello James,
Great article!
Perhaps you want to consider the following: The rapture may not be for all Christians. It will be the time you do expect in your articles, but not for all of us.
I think it because of the the church of Philadelphia did expect the Lord and was zealous for the Lord. The Lord promised in Rev 3:10 to keep them from the hour of temptation. But not for the Laodicean church. They were lukewarm and does not look that familear with many of our fellow brothers and sisters?
So I think only a part of us will be raptured and the rest will go into the difficult period.
Please continue your prophetic news. I like reading it and thinking about your articles.
Many greetings,
Marten
I completely agree with your view about the rapture because of the parable of the ten virgins. All of them were waiting for the bridegroom to come, so all of them believed he was coming. Yet only five of them had oil in their lamps. The other five were left behind. I have also heard prophetic dreams and visions revealing the same thing.
James,
You wrote:
God has promised to deliver his people from the wrath to come (Revelation 3:10, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:9), but has not promised to deliver us from persecution, which comes from the wrath of men operating under the influence of Satan. In fact, just the opposite is true. He promised we would be persecuted. That might not be what we want to hear, but it is what we need to hear because it is the truth.
If We need to face persecution before the rapture, so all children and babies still on earth at that moment…. Right, sorry I am just little confuse there.
Persecution is not new. It has been happening for thousands of years. God’s people have been and continue to be persecuted around the world. In the Middle East today we are seeing ISIS soldiers kill children of Christian parents, even cutting them in two. This is not the will of God, but it happens because people submit to the will of the devil. Persecution will increase as we get closer to the end. With that comes horrible suffering for Christians, including innocent children. However, God will take his people out of harm’s way, and I believe all innocent children too, before he pours out his wrath on the day of the Lord.
Hi James,
i always have a question in my mind about rapture, regarding testing faith, of course true believer will show their faith, but what about babies, children, what will happen to them if no pre-rapture… ? i really wish to know..
Regarding the rapture, it happens before the wrath of God is poured out during the great tribulation. I have heard testimonies from people who said they saw babies taken in the rapture. In fact, they said most of the people taken were babies and small children. That makes sense because if the Lord takes 100% of them and only a small percentage of adults then the kids would outnumber the adults. I do not have any scripture to support this, but I believe God has an age of accountability so anyone who has not yet reached that age is not yet held accountable and not in danger of going to hell. The choice of life or death is ours, but we have to be old enough to make the choice.
Thanks James
Understood.
If Terry is correct we only have 14 years to win souls for Jesus.
regards
Phil
Time is literally running out!
Correction James
On the final date
That return is therefore scheduled for around June 2033 approximately.
—- your advice would be appreciated God Bless Philip – Sydney
Dear James,
I have been reading Terry’s 666 Prophecy plus Rapture on the day of the Lord carefully.
Terry Bennett received visitations from the angel Gabriel revealing to him a 21-year period marking the rise of the antichrist to a position of ruling the world economy, government, and a new one-world religion.
This appears to end in 2028 at the completion of 3.5 years of the 7 year tribulation after horrid rmurder of millions of Christians.
Am I correct in saying the Rapture will occur in 2028 or early 2029 with Christ’s final return 3.5 years later at Armageddon.
That return is therefore scheduled for around June 2023 approximately.
your advice would be appreciated
God Bless
Philip – Sydney
Based on Terry’s revelation, the antichrist received his first crown in 2008 and then completes his rise to world ruler by 2028. So 2028 would mark the beginning of the 42 month reign of the antichrist, which is the first three and a half years of the final seven=year period. The start of the 42 months will be marked by a seven-year covenant or treaty between Israel and other nations. We then enter into the tribulation period. In the middle of the seven-year period, the antichrist puts his throne in the temple in Jerusalem, which is the abomination that triggers the start of the great tribulation. The rapture happens right after the start of the great tribulation and just before the wrath of God is poured out. The events happening prior to that are not the wrath of God. The rapture and the wrath of God are administered by angels blowing trumpets on the day of the Lord, which is not a 24 hour day, but lasts for one thousand years. It is the reign of the Lord on the earth, the seventh day of rest.
10 irrefutable biblical proofs for a pre- tribulation rapture:
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=32728
First of all, the ten points are not proofs for a pre-tribulation rapture. They are attempting to show ten differences between the rapture and the second coming, but without any scriptures that support their points. I literally laughed out loud as I read each point because of how much they contradict the very scriptures they tried to use to support their false doctrine. They also use circular logic. They might as well just say it happens this way because we say so and because we want it to. It is hard to make the Bible say the opposite of what it says. We must go with what it says and believe it, even if it is not what we want to hear.
I find their “proofs” laughable also. There is even a website called “250 Reasons Why the Pretribulation Rapture is Correct. I’m completely baffled as to why Pretribualtionists are unable to see that there arguments are no arguments at all, but merely speculation, changing of definitions, assumptions, and circular reasoning.
Above, you stated the rider on the white horse is the Antichrist. I think it might be the spirit of the antichrist which has been around since the first century. If the first rider is an individual, then consistency would demand that the other riders be individuals, but they are not. The Antichrist himself would show up at the abomination that causes desolation at the Fifth Seal.
Anyway, excellent article.
I don’t always spell it out, but I agree the rider on the white horse is the spirit of antichrist. However, his mission is to secure a crown for a man, the antichrist. Even the scriptures use language that can be interchangeable because it says the rider is given the crown when in fact the man is given the crown as the result of the working of the rider. The man is possessed by the spirit of the rider so the two are working together. He received his crown in 2008.
Paul went to prison and Babylon (rome)…….he is our pattern, foreshadow,,,,,,,,
NT Babylon is the world-wide spiritual “city” of opposition to God.
In the bible, how many saints died of old age?……..and how many were persecuted and were martyred?
Dont lose your faith if you are despised, rejected, ruined, robbed, persecuted, outlawed, imprisoned and martyred. Elijah and John the Baptist are the pattern for endtimes saints….we announce the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST!…..we are the forerunners of Christ!…..we call the world to repentance, so they will kill us…..the latter rain…….the Two Witnesses………..birth pangs of Childbirth……….the Rev12 Woman (Eve, Mary, Church) brings forth the Child, the Son of God.
Repent if your family and neighbors love you.
You are the Light of the world,,,,,,,the stench of death to unbelievers,,,,,a wonderful perfume to the saints.
The american public wants to murder the repubs,,,,,,because saints vote repub.
Praise Christ!
I recommend http://www.bible-codes.org.
THE DANIEL 12:11 PROPHECY OF 1290 DAYS WAS BIRTHED IN GENEVA, SWITZERLAND
Will Yeshua/Jesus be standing before his brethren in the strength and in the majesty of the Name of his God fulfilling Micah 5:2-5 and Isaiah 32:1,-15-20 in 28 days?
Read on; the ‘best evidence” of a “covenant signed by many” has been hidden in Geneva, Switzerland since November 24, 2013.
After seeking this ever elusive end date of 1290 days for 7+ years, I thank God for giving this date to me on His “own timing”.
The setting up of the “agreement” to desolate Israel in Geneva on November 24, 2013, does not alter or change in any way the 1335 day, the 2300 days or the “time, time and half time” prophecies of Daniel listed below.
We have been publicly proclaiming them since June 2013, and this “mute abomination” strengthens them GREATLY because it connects the 62 years to the 7 years of Daniel 9:26.
This is a witness to the “Covenant of death and agreement with hell” of Isaiah 28:14-15 that God won’t wait till June 30th to disannul with His “overflowing scourge” because it has already been signed! Isaiah 28:18-20
So don’t get lulled to sleep by the media focusing on the June 30, 2015 “deadline date” and catch you unawares, for we read in Isaiah 29:5-8 that “at an instant, suddenly the earth will be visited by the LORD of Hosts” with “thunder, earthquake and great noise with storm and tempest and the flame of devouring fire”
The transgression of desolation to destroy the land of Israel, its army and trodden it underfoot was “set up” when the ‘Geneva interim agreement’ was signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in Geneva, Switzerland on November 24, 2013. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_interim_agreement_on_the_Iranian_nuclear_program
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that makes desolation is set up, there shall be a 1290 days.
I find it fascinating that God forced the 1290 days to begin their countdown on the day Israel completed 62 years of statehood on May 14, 2010, making it fall in year 62 of Daniel 9:26 that ended on September 8, 2010.
The “P5+1” are the “many” of the “covenant with many” of Daniel 9:27.
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolater.
That “one week” is the “seven” of Daniel 9:26 and extends from the beginning of year 63 on September 9, 2010 and ends when year 69 ends on September 20, 2017.
In “the midst of this week” of years is year 66, that extends from September 5, 2013 to September 25, 2014, the Geneva interim agreement was signed on November 24, 2013 to “set up” the desolation.
September 20/21, 2017 “That determined shall be poured upon the desolater”, also completes the 2300 day and ‘time, time and half times” prophecies of Daniel 8:14 and Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 12:7
THE PROPHECY’S OF DANIEL
*1.) The Daniel 12:11, 1290 day prophecy. “And from the time that the sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be 1290 days.”
This prophecy began its count down on May 14, 2010 which was the beginning of the year 62 of Israel’s statehood. Day 1290 counts out on November 24, 2013, the day the “plan” to transgress and make its land a desolation and give it and the city to be trampled underfoot was signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in Geneva, Switzerland.
2.) The Daniel 12:12, 1335 day prophecy, “Blessed is he who waits and arrives at day 1,335”, counts out on Shavuot, May 24, 2015.
This countdown began on the ‘eve’ of Rosh Hashanah, September 28, 2011, from that day including Shavuot 68, May 24, 2015 is 1335 days.
3.) The Daniel 8:13-14, 2300 days prophecy; Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one who spoke, “For how long is the vision concerning the sacrifice, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled underfoot?” 14 And he said to me, “For 2,300 evenings and mornings. Then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state.”
The 2300 days began their countdown on the eve of Shavuot #64, June 7, 2011 that just happens to be 43 full years since the famous cry “the Temple mount is ours” rang out in the city on June 7, 1967!
They count out on Rosh Hashanah, September 22, 2017, the day that begins year 70, which is the final Jubilee year of the 120 promised in Genesis 6:3 that will come to the full on September 9, 2018.
4.) The “time, time and half time” prophecy of Daniel 7:25 begins its countdown the day after Shavuot #68 on May 25, 2015.
It is a time of 400 days + a time of 400 days + a half time of 50 days that count out when the week of year 69 ends on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, September 21, 2017.
Also Daniel 12:7 “And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream; he raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time, or when the shattering of the power of the holy people comes to AN END all these things would BE FINISHED. Also Daniel 7:25
THE SEVENTY SHAVUOTS AND THE SIXTY-NINE YEARS
In Daniel 9:24-27, the “70 Feast of Weeks/Shavuot, 69 weeks of years prophecy” was determined on November 29, 1947 when a United Nations vote gave Israel the right to Statehood that was declared on May 14, 1948.
The first Festival of Shavuot fell on June 13, 1948, the last; Shavuot 70, will fall in year 69, May 31, 2017.
The first Hebraic year began on September 15, 1947. Year 70 will begin on September 22, 2017 with the Jubilee year officially beginning 10 days later on Yom Kippur, September 30, 2017.
THE NEXT 28 DAYS, A PERSPECTIVE
The reason May 24, 2015 fits into the prophecies listed below is because of Daniel 9:24-27, his Seventy Shavuot, Sixty nine year” prophecy.
Shavuot 68 within the chronology will fall on that day, a day that I believe is the “second coming” of the LORD, that throughout the Bible is called the “day of the LORD”.
If these prophecies are now ALL linked, it’ll be on that day after gathering and bringing His remnant from the four corners of the Earth into the wilderness of Israel to live securely in unwalled villages with unlocked gates, He will again appear over them a “second time”. Isaiah 11:10-16, Ezekiel 20:33-38, Ezekiel 34:11-16 and Ezekiel 38:8-11
It’ll be there that the fulfillment of Deuteronomy 18:16-19 will occur when the prophet like Moses God promised, will be raised up and shall speak words in the name of His God to his brothers gathered in the wilderness. Isaiah 32:1-4
It’ll be on that day while “His fury is being poured out” a simultaneous “second Exodus” is occurring and He will pour out His spirit” and His Messiah will again stand before his brothers in the strength and in the majesty of the Name of the LORD his God. Isaiah 32:15-20 and Micah 5:2-5 [Read these two, more than once, along with Isaiah 44:3, Isaiah 59:21, Ezekiel 39:29 and Isaiah 11:2]
It is God who has gathered and brought them before him to rule over in His everlasting Kingdom that was promised by God to the prophet Nathan to tell David that his “seed” would rule in an everlasting Kingdom forever! 2 Samuel 7:10-16
The “first coming of the LORD” was when He/God descended over all His people Israel at Mt. Sinai on Shavuot in fire whose smoke ascended like a furnace while the mountain quaked and the sound of the trumpets grew louder and the people trembled before He gave Moses His 2 tablets. Exodus 19:18-19
As of today this is still “speculation” my prayer is that we study and look at these texts, a day is coming when “awarness is preparedness” and spiritual, physical and mental preperation is a good thing.
The days are short and time is fleeting, “Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the LORD” An Ezekiel 33:6 watching one
That is very interesting Gavriel. The following video from Dewey Bruton was presented in 2005 and is similar in many ways to what you have outlined above. http://youtu.be/GuTb99tBC0c. I would love to get your comments from this video since it is closely aligned with your assessment. Blessings!
Here’s one mistake you made (which changes a lot of your calculations): Daniel 7:25 does not say “a time, a time, and a half-time”. It says “a time, a times (plural), and a half-time”. Actually, in Youngs Literal Translation it says “and a division of a time” and I’m not sure if that means a half or a third or what. Robt Van Kampen took “times” to mean two of “a time”, and that fits. All of his eschatology fits, so I don’t discount any of it, even the preposterous conclusions! Something else you wrote sent up a red flag, but I’ll have to reread your comment to pinpoint it. BUT just this error – calculating upon an erroneous basis – is unacceptable.
Great summary. I like it when things are simple. Too many people are writing 800 page books on this subject that confuse the salvation out of you. This film Left Behind (Cage) could be satanic propaganda as it really really pushes the pre trib rapture. The old series by La Hey was also in my opinion a fairy tale.
I discussed this at a mens breakfast yesterday stating we will face the trip but not the wrath. Think of it ,why are we so special. Millions of our christian brothers and sisters have been murdered. To mention a few in recent history:
1) 1913 the Turks killed 1million Christians
2) Maos communist China murdered millions of us.
3) Stalin murdered millions
4) The murdering of Christians continues to this day and Jesus said it will get worse.
We will be very deceived to think that we will be raptured while driving in our Bentley to our mega church.
Daniels time line 1 year = day so Gods wrath could be poured out over a period of 1 year before Jesus returns to rid the evil on this planet that is doing its level best to destroy it. There are too many Christians that believe they will not face any tribulation at all. I was taught this but I had to change my mind after examining scriptures for my self.
James
Great post. Too many Christians are asleep and are going to be caught off guard when the Seals hit and the antichrist arises and they cannot buy or sell without the mark. The verse that finally convinced me that the rapture does not occur until after the 6th Seal is opened was Acts 2:20–The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come.
Knowing that the rapture is part of the Day of the Lord and thus the moon must be turned to blood before the rapture. The moon is turned to blood at the 6th Seal. Therefore the rapture happens after the 6th Seal is opened. In fact that is why the 6th Seal passage describes people seeing the Lord–they saw Him at the rapture.
Rev 6 …Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Thanks for your comments. The scripture you identified from Acts was very helpful. It originally came from Joel 3. I studied it further after receiving your comment and updated the post. I think it is much clearer now.
http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Jade_Helm_6_Months_of_Horror.php
Here is another
James,
Love your articles on the rapture. WE need to prepare spiritually to go through hard times for Christ. The following does not aply to the rapture but to the economic collapse that you and many of us believe is coming soon.
David Wilkerson’s Economic Vision
And, just so you know, I did hear David Wilkerson speak this very word in a sermon (on a cassette) that I own.
So we have a word that David Wilkerson himself declared to be prophetic, not just a warning based upon his study of Scripture, but a prophetic word which said that a European, North African or Eastern nation was going to go bankrupt; German, Swiss and French banks would take the initial impact – hard; then a second nation, possibly Argentina or Brazil would follow, then Mexico. The US would not necessarily be impacted by the default of the first nation or the South American nation but would be impacted, hard, by the default of Mexico, so much so that NOT the National Guard but the WHOLE US ARMY would be called out to control the chaos.
Let’s match this word to recent headlines and ask ourselves: Could this prophetic word be concerning Greece?
http://runningfrombabylon.blogspot.nl/
Thanks Again,
Darin
Thanks for the comments about the prophetic word from David Wilkerson. Someone else recently sent that same word to me and I was just thinking about posting it. It sure sounds relevant to what is happening now.
No matter what the signs are and i believe fervently in the bible. No one and i repeat no one knows the day when the lord shall arrive. Not even jesus . So please people stop adhering to false prophets .meanwhile i love your posts i only recently started following . God bless your work amen
I agree. No one here has claimed to know the day or the hour. The day of the Lord is not a 24-hour day, but lasts for 1,000 years. It is the seventh day of the week following six thousand years of the dominion of man. It is the day of rest when the Lord Jesus will rule over the earth. See 2 Peter 3:3-11 and Revelation 21:1.