New price insights for Electroneum

This provides my current thinking for coming price movements for Electroneum (ETN), which is a crypto currency traded on Cryptopia.

During my prayer time yesterday, I saw a graph of ETN gradually dropping down to 33 cents. There were more numbers beyond the 2nd decimal, but I did not see what they were. The only price I saw was 33 cents, but based on the line graph, I could tell it had been much higher, probably in the 50 or 60 cent range.

Seeing the graph provided some context for the sequence of price movements because on December 19, I saw a price of 66 cents, but I did not know which coin. A week later, after reading Jim Reeve’s interpretation of the 7.5% and 13 numbers I saw, I realized 66 cents was likely ETN, as almost everything I have seen in crypto currencies has been. Seeing the graph today confirms to me 66 cents was Electroneum since the graph showed the price had been much higher before dropping to 33 cents, which tells me to sell at 66 cents because the price will drop to at least to 33 cents, which is interesting because technical analysts have identified 50% price retraces are common patterns.

Christopher Harris’ dream on December 21 regarding the third wave was also helpful in identifying the pattern. Regarding the timing of the crash of the third wave, the best clue I’ve heard so far is CPJ’s dream on December 26 when she saw the lowest point between two mountains at $1995 as the Predictor. Jim Reeve interpreted that as Bitcoin crashing to $1995 and that sounds right to me. Bitcoin is currently at $15,020, so that would be a huge 87% drop, which would likely drag down many other crypto currencies with it, including to some extent ETN. So, I think that’s when we’ll see ETN dropping into the 3 to 5 cent range.

A big question is when does ETN reach 66 cents, before or after the crash of the third wave? I think it’s after the crash for two reasons. First, it seems meaningless to highlight 33 cents if the price is going to continue dropping all the way to 3 cents. Second, dropping from 66 cents to 3 cents would be a 95% drop, which would be as big or bigger than Bitcoin’s drop, which would contradict a dream received on December 27 by Z3er Lucy in which she heard people talking about how ETN is an excellent hedge fund. She admitted she didn’t even know the meaning of the term, but when applied to Electroneum it implies the price does not drop as fast as other crypto currencies when Bitcoin drops.

However, my assumptions about the sequence could be wrong because it is based on incomplete information and I have not seen how it all fits together. One way we’ll know for sure is when the price reaches 66 cents because by then we’ll have the benefit of hindsight to know whether it has already dropped to the 3 to 5 range. If it has, then 33 cents would likely be the best re-entry point after selling at 66 cents.

Regarding the sequence of other prices, I am still wrestling with why I saw a range from 7.5% on the left side to 13 on the right side. When I saw it, I immediately thought it was a price range from 7.5 cents to 13 cents, so for now I am holding onto that interpretation, even though the price dropped to 6.8 cents last week. That wasn’t enough to make me change my thinking because the numbers God has revealed in the past have not shown precise turning points. For example, on December 20, I saw the price going up to 11.8 cents, which was fulfilled the next day when the price went up to 12.3 cents before turning back down. So, if the price remains in the current range and climbs up to 13 cents, I will sell there. Technical analysis confirms 13 cents is the 100% level for the one month Fibonacci chart. So, if the price goes up to 13 cents from here, I think that would complete the first wave.

Separately, on December 28, I saw 5.17 in a bold black font. Then a little while later, I saw 16.3819. I think 5.17 could be the bottom of the crash of the first wave with 16.3819 being close to the top of the second wave. In a dream on December 21, I saw the price at 17 cents, which I think confirms 16.3819. Also, the next Fibonacci level after 13 cents at 100% would be 18.1 cents at 161.8%, which confirms the likelihood of a turning point in the 16 to 18 cent range.

These assumptions might be wrong because they’re based on limited information, but if those are the correct turning points for the first and second waves, they would be followed by the crash of the second wave and top of the third wave at unidentified prices, followed by the crash of the third wave at close to 3 cents.

Given the high degree of difficulty in identifying these turns, getting in and out at the right points will be challenging. An alternative approach is to just buy now and hold on until it reaches 66 cents. Since the current price is at 8.7 cents, we’re a lot closer to the bottom now than the top, so buying and holding would produce a return of 7.5 times the initial investment, which would be increased by buying more coins after the price drops into the 3 to 5 cent range. Another approach is to wait on the sidelines until the price hits bottom.

Regarding the $62.25 price I saw for Electroneum in a dream on December 17, I think all these other moves happen first. I was not shown any dates.

As always, this is not a recommendation for investing.

James Bailey

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Jamie in Austria
Jamie in Austria
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January 5, 2018 5:48 AM

Hi All,
I had found in February 2017 the Lord leading me to really look into all of this Crypto stuff and in the end I became quite an expert, not perfect by any means but pretty well versed. In August I decided to start my first jaunt into this and bought my first bitcoin. Buying a bit every month and as well some Ether. In the end, I found when the peace of this Electroneum topic came up I had already had a great gift of growth of my bitcoins and Ether and have taken the steps to follow this.
One thing I would stress to everybody, while unless you are an expert in this area the best step is really a buy and hold strategy. Or a buy, and if it goes down buy more. I can say while I’ve been blessed with my trades on Cryptopia in fact, things don’t move so quickly and you really want to count the speed to which you can come in and out. Ultimately, unless you are trading BTC/ETN also the volume is a lot lower, I tend to go for LTC because the fees are lower but there is in fact lower volumns so trades take sometimes much longer to get into and out of.

Also, keep in mind reading some of the other messages. Cryptopia has a first level verification level of only $5000 NZD withdraw. So given the dream about having a circular plan on exiting. You will probably want to get to level 2 verification which then brings the daily limit to $50,000 NZD. Which is about $35k USD.
These are just some thoughts to share.

Jamie in Austria
Jamie in Austria
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January 5, 2018 6:19 AM

Also to note. I have done a deep, deep analysis on all the Crypto Exchanges the top 20 and the top Alt-coin exchanges. What I found and I wanted to share is ultimately the best of the best when it comes to getting Fiat currency into the system and getting it out….if you need to is this one https://quoinex.com/ it is a Japanese company but with the specific office in Singapore. They are open to all countries except three and no problem for American’s. The key about this one is they have if one needs it, the ability to withdraw up to $100,000 a day on a verified account. And they have very, very reasonable fees on deposits and withdraws. As was mentioned before, planning an exit strategy and quite frankly the results show especially with all of these ICO’s raising Ether, its actually harder to get crypto back into fiat for daily needs than one expects! So Quoinex is a good option.

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 5, 2018 9:00 AM

Jamie, hey thanks for that. I’m in the midst of my own research on this issue and this provides a good advance. You have found, IMO, the correct attributes. An ability to move large amounts, more than one fiat conversion choice, friendly jurisdiction that is not US, servers in multiple locations and jurisdictions. Good work. JR

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 5, 2018 9:24 AM

Jamie. I’m looking for just one missing step. An ability to turn crypto back into fiat, but not having to move the fiat back into the banking system. Rather, having a debit or credit card attached to (any major) fiat where it lies, without having to bring it back into formal (US) jurisdiction. It would be something like a crypto bank with multiple jurisdictional licenses, with exchange capabilities. I’d just move crypto sums from my private wallets into the bank, convert to my chosen fiat, then have spending power off that balance. I’m sure there are huge regulatory hurdles because governments and banks would strenuously oppose this. However, it it existed one would have instant mobility and flexibility, with soft jurisdictional capture. It would allow simple folk to do what wealthy folk do, which is move money into other jurisdictions and currencies. The ability to move into something other than US dollars will be important in the future. Crypto’s would allow us to exchange seamlessly, and potentially, painlessly, even if there were reporting requirements. JR.

Jemba
Jemba
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January 5, 2018 5:16 PM
Great topic JR. As you know, the feds are already tightening the screws on any anything money related so they can squeeze the citizens even more. Years ago, Switzerland was a safe haven that didn’t have to report any of its clients bank accounts until the US Govt forced them to. Now the U.S. govt actually forces you to disclose your bank accounts (including foreign) and pay US taxes even if you don’t live in the US as long as you are a U.S. citizen. A couple of weeks ago, the IRS won a court decision forcing Coinbase to disclose all its members with more than $20K holdings. So the screws are going to get even tighter as the ‘social justice’ crowds demands the rich pay their ‘fair share’. One ray of light is what James posted some time back. There are mainstream precious metal dealers that now accept cryptos as payment. The tax benefits are HUGE. My wife who is a CPA tells me that if you transfer asset to asset (which is what PMs and Cryptos are), you don’t have to worry about tax liability. So purchasing PMs with cryptos is one potential way to reduce tax liability. Though its not a complete answer to what you are looking for. PS – I’m not passing this off as official tax advise but just a starting place for more research. But we certainly need other solutions. If you sell any crypto you’ve held for less than a year, you are likely going to be hit with the regular tax bracket which could be as high as 35% where as holding for at least a year reduces tax rate to 20%. So most viable options for now for keeping more of our crypto profits are holding for more than a… Read more »
Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 5, 2018 5:40 PM

Thanks JEMBA, good stuff. I do see the PM door as a possibility.

Jemba
Jemba
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January 5, 2018 7:49 PM

On second thought, the ultimate will be crypto exchange for assets besides PM outside the government/banking system. There are some who have bought real estate with bitcoin. It will be far easier for that to happen when entire monetary system collapse but I think we are a long ways from that. That’s another way to avoid worrying about the banks or taxes. As a christian, I’m obviously not for tax evasion or breaking the law but rather taking full advantage of what the law requires. Currently, its not illegal for tax free asset to asset transfer :). Its only after we convert crypto to fiat and transfer it bank to our bank accounts that uncle sam comes calling ….

Corey
Corey
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January 9, 2018 4:34 AM

Excellent point, Jemba. Your strategy is similar to the 1031 exchange in real estate. Most people involved in crypto’s aren’t considering the tax implications, and will likely get blindsided by a major tax bill at some point down the road. Another important point to consider is that you will need to find a CPA that understands the tax laws as they pertain to cryptos. Many do not. With that said, if you do the math and compare what you would be paying in short-term capital gains (most of us will probably hold our positions for less than a year) vs. the premium you would be paying on physical gold/silver bullion when you decide to unload your crypto positions, the difference can be in the tens–if not hundred–of thousands of dollars. And just to clarify, when you buy physical bullion, you have to pay a premium over the spot price. When you sell it back to convert to fiat, most PM dealers buy back at spot (or spot +1% for certain coins).

Jerry
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January 5, 2018 2:25 PM

Hi Jim,

I think: http://www.goldmoney.com is a great solution.

Jamie in Austria
Jamie in Austria
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January 5, 2018 11:37 AM

Also to note, one bank I have found which seems to accept all people from all around the world and offers USD, EUR and some Crypto with a prepaid credit/debit card is https://worldcore.eu/
Overall, since I am in Europe I have a lot of options of new fintech challenger banks. But I’ve yet to feel comfortable opening an account with them. I would suggest ask and pray what the Lord thinks about Worldcore and if it is something to consider. But it does seem to be one that also had a pretty successful ICO. So it could be an option. Cheers.

von17
von17
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January 7, 2018 12:48 AM

Jamie thanks for al your expert input but to all Americans I offer you a caution on using any bank overseas. If a bank overseas is willing to go through all bureaucracy and hassle to take an American they will require you to fill out FACTA info. FACTA will require you to give bank your ssn. I have lived overseas past 10 years and altogether maybe 20 years. I don’t think for one minute your ssn will be secure with an overseas bank. If Target stores can’t secure their customer’s credit card info, equifax can’t secure American credit rating info on its site (name, ssn, address) and even former CIA directors, John Brennan email’s hacked–no overseas bank is going to be able to secure your ssn and there is a high probabiliy I think that it will be stolen and sold to someone in Pakistan to steal your identity. I don’t mind giving my ssn to my employer but to a foreign bank? As Americans we tend to be trusting and naive and Only Congress could pass such a law to set it own citizens up for identity theft.

Jamie in Austria
Jamie in Austria
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January 5, 2018 11:28 AM

Hi Jim, yes I have also looked at that and here is the top list of kind of Crypto friendly bank cards. Its a slide share. https://www.slideshare.net/vsolodkiy/all-25-cryptofriendly-bank-cards
Overall, for me personally I have found UQuid to be the most diverse in that you can get a good bank card connected to even alt-coins. Like ether, Litecoin, Bitcoin etc but I’m not sure they accept American’s. Shakepay is also an interesting company in Canada but again, not sure they take American’s. Also interesting that I find is http://www.coinsbank.com based in Scotland. The challenge I think is for American’s as a whole. Many providers even today to not issue bank connected cards to Americans. Here you have to check who they allow. Bitpay might be one for you in America if that is where you are based?

Further there are these, the up and coming Crypto Friendly Neo banks. https://e27.co/8-crypto-friendly-neobank-startups-bubble-generation-way-first-bubble-bank-20171218/
But I know many are only now releasing their tokens and not sure if they are really running yet fully. That’s about all I can offer at the moment from my research. Next step is to understand your country your in and which accept you and which don’t. In Europe, quite frankly there are a lot more options than what American’s and the rest of the world get.

Nick
Nick
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January 5, 2018 12:39 PM

Hi Jamie, thanks for all the helpful info.
A few of us are thinking the same – I mailed James yesterday my thoughts and concerns after 6mths in the space (like you), for circulation or not, at his discretion.
NB!! Nearly all prepay crypto cards are issued by Wavecrest in Gibraltar and they’ve just been shut down by Visa.
BitWala and TenX (PAY token) have emailed me today saying they’re figuring out what to do about it.
https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/01/05/2197305/crypto-cards-just-suffered-a-major-setback/

Nick
Nick
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January 5, 2018 1:05 PM

PS Coinsbank in Scotland do look interesting, as you say, but Wavecrest is their card issuer too.
I think this is going to be our issue – everyone heading for the exits at the same time, with low level 1 limits on the exchanges and few/ no other options.
Probably wise to register for several exchanges in several countries and try for at least level 2 at each.
Also, not leaning on our own understanding. If the Lord is happy we’re in this for his wider kingdom purposes he will be pleased to secure our exit.

Christy
Christy
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January 6, 2018 2:18 AM

I would like to thank everyone who has been giving info in regards to the cryptos. You guys have really been helpful!

Ok. Now back to your dilemma Jim. Somehow, I came upon the revelation that there are bitcoin ATM’s all over the world! I was looking at the opposite problem of converting liquidity into bitcoins.

I just checked and there are some machines which distribute fiat for your bitcoins.

https://coinatmradar.com/blog/how-to-sell-bitcoins-using-bitcoin-atm/

I hope that this information helps you. There are maps of bitcoin atm’s in your city but you have to check which model is at which location. I would also advise getting familiar with the usage of them before you drive to your destination.

Phil - Sydney
Phil - Sydney
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January 5, 2018 8:19 PM

Thanks Jim
Very valuable. Similar issues in Australia. Authorities track even a $10k move of funds. Between accounts. Mark of the beast system controllers will certainly want all worldwide peoples trading in THEIR 666 system. Attempts in future are will be made to close all loopholes with cryptos I’m sure. Christians need to be 4 steps ahead.
God bless
Phil

Mary
Mary
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January 6, 2018 10:08 AM

I would really appreciate some direction as how to move the ETN LTC back. I bought with credit card, so does the profit go back on that? What if it’s more than my limit? For sure confused.

EarsToHear
EarsToHear
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January 8, 2018 12:44 AM

Mary are you asking how to sell ETN in LTC on Cryptopia, then getting your LTC back to CoinBase?

Mary
Mary
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January 9, 2018 11:29 PM

From coinbase to credit card? Maybe I have to attach bank to it to get real money back in hand? No worries. I’ll did for answers tomorrow.

Sonia
Sonia
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January 5, 2018 7:00 AM

Thanks Jamie for all the info ! God bless you !

CPJ
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January 7, 2018 4:10 PM

Jamie:
Thanks for all your great input.
Re https://quoinex.com/ Just attempted to set up account with them and was denied, stating this service “not available for your country of residence” (USA). You think this might be because I was setting up a personal acct vs corporate? I know you said they were open to Americans, so that’s all I can deduce by the denial. Thanks.

Jamie in Austria
Jamie in Austria
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January 7, 2018 4:18 PM

I had thought it was open to American’s as I never found any statement in their FAQ on this? But I guess I was wrong. Sems these days it sure is tough being an American 😝.

Jemba
Jemba
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January 7, 2018 6:41 PM

CPJ & Jamie, I also tried signing up on quoinex a few days unsuccessfully and posted on here as well. As I had mentioned before, the US Govt & IRS require foreign banks that work with U.S. citizens to fill in additional paperwork. Most foreign banks are refusing to just deal with US citizens due to the extra headache. There’s enough billions in the global economy to be made without Americans for now. By the way, that’s why there’s an overwhelming number of US citizens who are millionaires who are giving up their US citizenship for such reasons. I’m not saying that’s what I’m advocating but ultimately, the rich take whatever steps are required to keep their wealth including changing national allegiances …

CPJ
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January 7, 2018 8:39 PM

Yeah, Jamie gave us a bum steer re quoinex. lol. j/k Jamie in Austria… 😀
Hey Jemba. Wanted to thank you for sharing your CPA-wife’s awesom nugget that there are no taxes when converting cryptos to precious metals.Asset to asset. Now if I can just find out how and where to do that and actually take possession of the PMs that’d be sweet.

Matt NZ
Matt NZ
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January 8, 2018 3:04 AM

Goldmoney.com, direct Bitcoin to gold sales.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
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January 8, 2018 12:27 PM

You can also receive gold and silver with bitcoin payment of up to $250,000 worth and 3% discount at jm bullion.

https://www.jmbullion.com/about/payments/

From what I could gather from goldmoney.com, you need to fund a goldmoney account linked to a bank account using fiat currency. Then you can buy their bitcoin. You cannot pay directly from your bitcoin wallet to a goldmoney wallet. You cannot withdraw bitcoin directly from your goldmoney wallet. There are multiple fees along the way to get money or bullion out. If you know differently, please comment.

“Can I send cryptocurrency to my Goldmoney Holding?
We are currently unable to provide you with the ability to send your existing cryptocurrencies directly to your Holding. However, we do allow you to fund your Holding with many different cryptocurrencies, the proceeds of which can then be used to purchase and hold cryptocurrencies within your Holding.”

https://www.goldmoney.com/holding-cryptocurrencies

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 7, 2018 8:46 PM

CPJ. I recommend that you do a little research on that one before employing it. The latest tax bill put on some new restrictions with regard to like kind exchanges.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/14/gop-tax-bill-blocks-potential-bitcoin-gains-gambit.html

JR

CPJ
Member
January 8, 2018 9:36 AM

Ok, thanks Jim. [you, too, Matt] I’m not trying to evade taxes, just avoid them legally, and am actually much more interested these days in nailing down a sound circuitous exit strategy that has wisely been mentioned on here, as truly my main concern is how to safely get these cryptos out of the exchanges/a wallet and into real spending money. I look forward to the Lord revealing His plan for that.

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 8, 2018 9:54 AM

CPJ. No, I get that. The new law is requiring me to change my record keeping so that my coin for coin exchanges now recognize gains and losses. It is more involved.

I think we have some time to figure out the “circuitous route”.
It will need to be liquid in order for it to work. JR

Jemba
Jemba
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January 6, 2018 9:26 PM

I just tried signing up for the exchange and its not open to folks who are residents in the U.S.. Doesn’t surprise me. As I mentioned before, US govt requires tons more paper work for financial institutions who work with Americans so many just decide its not worth it givens there’s billions of dollars in business from many other countries besides the U.S.

Jemba
Jemba
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January 5, 2018 7:37 AM

That is a great value proposition. One of the reasons I didn’t want to move all my COB to Cobinhood even though they were offering free CMT is because of the tight restrictions on how much you can withdraw in a month. When the crash is pending or beginning, the flexibility to liquidate is definitely paramount. Good find Jamie!

Sonia
Sonia
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January 5, 2018 9:56 AM

Jemba, Cobinhood offers different tiers for withdrawals. At level 2, you are allowed only $20,000 daily withdrawals (in cryptos) up to a maximum of $100,000 a month but at level 3, it gets interesting:
$ 15,000 daily for fiat up to $ 200,000 per month and up to $ 1 million per month in cryptos. I have level 1 and I am now waiting for level 2 approval.

I think the best is to diversify, meaning having cryptos in different exchanges so that you can move rapidly in time of crash with different exchanges at the same time (withdrawing cryptos and fiat simultaneously through separate exchanges) and thus increasing your total withdrawal limit.
Blessings to you !
Sonia

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 5, 2018 2:22 PM

COB update
I think Cob is heading to about $1.24 with this current move up and may finish above $2 for this cycle after a retracement below $1. Good opportunities for profit taking.

Shalom

Casey Toda
Casey
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January 6, 2018 8:28 AM

Phanuel, you were right on for Lisk and Solaris. As of now lisk is at about 29.00 and Solaris around 46.00. Of the two which would you suggest going in on right now at these prices? Did you see a peak range on either of these and if so can you share your thoughts? Thank you so much sharing what God has shown you!

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 7, 2018 8:12 AM

Sorry Casey
Marnie is right .., I missed this. I believe both at the same time. I only trade what the Lord reveals. If the Lord reveals it … my take is it has to be important. LSK is to ETh, Solaris is too Dash/Zcash, LTC is to BTC, COB is to Binance. This is a wealth transfer. They are all still very cheap.

Shalom

Casey Toda
Casey
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January 8, 2018 12:26 AM

Thank you so much Phanuel for the clarification!! Much appreciated my brother!!

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 8, 2018 1:52 AM

You are welcome Casey!

Nick
Nick
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January 9, 2018 10:30 AM

Casey,
I think you commented yesterday about losing some ETH in a failed smart contract transfer from Bitstamp to Bitfinex (I can’t find it now).
There are some panicky cries for help on Reddit where this also happened to others sending from Bitstamp to Bittrex and HitBTC. It seems they got their ETH back after 7-12 days (one guy lost and got back 15). I would check both exchanges regularly as the support function seems unavailable.
PS when I typed my reply last night – which disappeared when I hit send – I added that if they don’t turn up let me know and I will share with you the free CMT which Cobinhood kindly gave me recently for leaving my COBs on their exchange overnight – the offer still stands.

Marnie
Marnie
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January 7, 2018 3:46 AM

Good question Casey. I think Phanuel didn’t see your comment/ question or he would have responded.

TomP
TomP
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January 6, 2018 9:35 AM

Hi Phanuel,

I’ve tried to transfer a small amount of COB to Cobinhood (practice run) and it’s been pending for 30 mins. Do you have any insight from your experience on length of time for deposit to appear on Cobinhood? I’ve read several articles and the general term is it, “varies” based on “busy-ness” and amount of gas. I used 40 Gwei from MEW to Cobinhood this time.

I’m really trying to get a sense for all this.

Blessings!

Jemba
Jemba
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January 6, 2018 7:11 PM

TomP, it can take ‘forever.’ I did a test run a couple of days ago and transfered 10 cob or so from myetherwallet to my Cobinhood account and its still not there. Its however debited out of my wallet already. Yes, the delays take getting used to. Can you imagine having larger amounts and wondering if they disappeared in thin air, or whatever? This is common place unfortunately …

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 6, 2018 10:08 AM

TomP
It depends on the eth network. For instance yesterday it took over 10 hours for me to see my ETh I transferred to Cryptopia ( to purchase some BTA). Fortunately I was still able to get in at .59 cents. This is why other projects like LSK have potential.

Shalom

TomP
TomP
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January 6, 2018 10:21 AM

Phanuel,

In our immediate gratification world we live in…waiting a, “long” time until transaction is confirmed will certainly take some getting used to. I’m certain there is a spiritual lesson in that too.

I need to get a better understanding of the “gas” used…I’ve had some transactions cancelled due to running out of gas. So many instruction videos…so little time! I’m wondering if there is a basic instructional class on navigating the crypto world.

Blessings!

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 6, 2018 11:11 AM

hi TomP
sometimes transactions only take a few seconds. Check the amount of gas needed here. This tells you how much gas you need and how long it takes to complete the transaction.

https://ethgasstation.info

TomP
TomP
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January 6, 2018 2:25 PM

Hi Phanuel, (or anyone else that my see my mistake here)

I’ve tried to send COB tokens from MEW to Cobinhood exchange and continually get a tx failed, “ran out of gas” message. I’ve used the numbers from ethgas (actually a bit higher). I’ve read up on gas and watched a video and it “appears” that I’m following the instruction….not sure where I’m missing it.

Recent tx scenario- tried to send 3000 COB from MEW to Cobinhood. At the time I looked at ethgas…it suggested 50 Gwei, so I actually put in 60. Standard gas limit was 21000. When I pressed to send transaction, I received a message that read gas limit not high enough you need 23256 to complete transaction. I upped the gas list to the suggested amount and tried again. It accepted the transaction, but then failed. Cause…”ran out of gas”.

Here is the tx hash tag: 0xa49b62ce4c12c7f2e511be7e7f30ade0702533e43bad63bc26effbe45170a6a8

Not sure how this will format on the site, but attempting to paste the screen shot.

Warning! Error encountered during contract execution [Out of gas]
ERC-20 Token Transfer Failed to complete, check with sender for more information.Value: 0 Ether ($0.00) Gas Limit: 23256 Gas Used By Txn: 23256 Gas Price: 0.00000006 Ether (60 Gwei) Actual Tx Cost/Fee: 0.00139536 Ether ($1.39) Cumulative Gas Used: 3231954

I’ve tried this a few times with same result, so clearly I’m missing something obvious.

Blessings

Sonia
Sonia
Member
January 6, 2018 2:42 PM

Hi Tom, looks like you don’t have enough gas in your wallet.
You have to make sure you have enough ETH in your wallet for the processing of your transactions.
.look at your ‘Balance screen’ at the bottom you will see ETH and under wallet you should have at least 0.15 ETH balance to pay for your transactions.
you can check out this video onhow to use etherdelta.
Hope this help !
https://youtu.be/LCKxqYJlVi8

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 6, 2018 2:54 PM

Sonia
He has plenty of Ether for gas (I looked at the transaction). The Ethereum network has a lot of problems.
TomP, you may have to increase the Gwei to 70. If I were you I will wait it out.

Shalom

Phil - Sydney
Phil - Sydney
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January 6, 2018 4:39 PM

Phanuel,Totally agree with ethereum network issues. Took me 40 hours to transfer eTH back to btcmarkets. I thought I lost them.

TomP
TomP
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January 6, 2018 3:15 PM

Phanuel,

Thanks…I looked up the transaction cost and it should only be in the $1.6-$2 range depending on the gwei/gas amounts used. The 0.145194228 ETH I have in MEW translates to $140+ so should have been enough to cover the transfer.

Regardless, I did transfer some additional ETH in there to make sure it was above to .15 that Sonia suggested to make sure….but then received a pop up note from Coinbase that they are also way behind and transactions will take awhile.

Maybe the Coinbase backlog will give time for the ethereum network time to calm down.

Glad I’m getting all this practice and the “bugs” worked out now…

Thanks to everyone for the advice! Blessings!

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 6, 2018 2:38 PM

…also assuming you have some small ETH in MEW to pay for the gas. Doesn’t look like you do. JR

TomP
TomP
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January 6, 2018 2:51 PM

Hi JR & Sonia,

Thanks…checking into that. My ETH is, 0.145194228 ETH.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 6, 2018 2:59 PM

That’s more than enough TomP.

TomP
TomP
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January 6, 2018 4:40 PM

Success Phanuel….transaction successful…just waiting for it to appear on Cobinhood.

Thanks all! Blessings!

Nick
Nick
Member
January 6, 2018 6:08 PM

Just saw this TomP. Happened to me yesterday – tried sending lots of gas to see what happened but it wasn’t that. Worked out eventually. Phanuel’s right about system being clogged – might still be those cats?!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 6, 2018 10:01 PM

Nick/TomP
The LSK block chain is very fast … I was able to transfer back and forth in like 30sec. Eth is in trouble when more people find this out.

TomP
TomP
Member
January 6, 2018 10:51 PM

Phanuel,

Trading with/thru Ether is very time consuming and frustrating. Don’t get me started on Etherdelta….you can get hypnotized watching the buffer symbols spin round and round and round….

TomP
TomP
Member
January 6, 2018 8:36 PM

Hey Nick & Jemba,

I received an email confirmation from Cobinhood that it is now “successfully funded”. It certainly does make you wonder what is going to happen when it gets really busy in the future!?

All is well! Blessings!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 6, 2018 2:36 PM

TomP
You did it correctly. The system is clogged. I would wait a little and try again. Or try a different node on Mew… like the etherscan node.

Shalom

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 6, 2018 5:24 PM

Great TomP

blessings!

TomP
TomP
Member
January 6, 2018 2:48 PM

Phanuel,

Thanks…that is both good and bad news, but willingly accepted. I’ll need to look up/study how to switch nodes…not familiar with that practice.

I am 0 for 5 on trying to move tokens so far today……I won’t make the lineup if I can’t get get my batting average up.

Blessings and thanks again for the assist!

Lars
Lars
Member
January 5, 2018 2:50 PM

Would you say that cobinhood exchange is the best place to trade COB?

ed h
Member
January 6, 2018 4:25 PM

Lars,
I would use both options. I have gotten fantastic deals on Etherdelta. On the next dip put in seriously low ball buy orders, more than likely they will fill. I landed a trade at .115 when the going price was about .16. Also a good idea is to place a sell order in at 100%. I did not have an open sell order on the last spike, but it would have filled. Lesson learned.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 5, 2018 3:07 PM

yes….. I have some COB on the exchange (waiting for profit taking)

shalom

Ed H
Ed H
Member
January 6, 2018 1:17 AM

Phanuel,
Looks like it is happening. Cob just exploded.

TomP
TomP
Member
January 5, 2018 3:34 PM

Phanuel,

Have you investigated the Bithumb exchange? For selling….they seem to have some of the highest prices for coins they offer.

Both Bittrex and Binance are still overwhelmed and cannot accept new registrations at this point.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 5, 2018 5:31 PM

hi Tom P….
I haven’t used Bithumb yet. The Cob exchange is coming along nicely though.

shalom

TomP
TomP
Member
January 5, 2018 6:51 PM

Thanks Phanuel.

Not sure how long Binance and Bittrex will be closed for new registrations and was searching around for alternatives in the meantime. I am set up on Cobinhood but they do not have all the coins I was looking at as of yet. Presently, I don’t have access to LSK as I’m lacking access to an exchange to trade on so I need to find another coin to invest in.

My big decision now is to decide whether or not to hold my LTC or convert them to other alt coins. Revelation seems to point that LTC will move up……but, it may only be a 3-4x vs other coins presumed moving at a much higher multiple. This is not a greed issue…just want to make a wise decision. Likely will hold half LTC and invest other half when I decide on a coin.

Have a blessed weekend brother!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 5, 2018 7:47 PM

TomP
Hold your LTC … it will ramp up soon.

Casey Toda
Casey
Member
January 6, 2018 8:30 AM

Tom, I strongly that the Lord wanted me to get rid of my ripple holdings and move into a core position in LTC. I feel LTC is going to move

Stephen
Stephen
Member
January 11, 2018 9:04 AM

Casey, good call on XRP, it’s down 50% from 8th January.

TomP
TomP
Member
January 7, 2018 5:58 PM

Hi Casey,

Thanks for that confirmation…I’ve decided to stick with LTC longterm (unless otherwise directed).

Blessings!

Thomas
Thomas
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January 5, 2018 2:50 PM

Phanuel, have you had/heard of issues with COB not reflecting the correct USD amount in FUNDS. I am a bit concerned my amount does not reflect the correct USD value. Have tried reaching out for support.

Jemba
Jemba
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January 5, 2018 5:32 PM

Thanks Sonia. Diversification of exchanges looks like the key lesson to maximize withdrawals. If the dream that was shared in the other link is literal; in 32 exchanges going down overnight, then the bigger lesson is withdrawal before the crash. JR always says that we haven’t been good so far with our ‘timing’ the crash and he’s correct, but I’m believing the grace of God will be there for us and not see many lose their holdings.

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 7, 2018 12:04 PM

I keep remembering the 3 wise men who laid their treasure at the feet of Jesus for His use and were then warned in a dream before Herod found them. I believe the Spirit will guide and warn us when it is time to leave secretly. I suspect it will be before the main mass exodus.

Cornelius
Cornelius
Member
January 7, 2018 1:23 PM

The only word in the English language ending -roneum is Matroneum, meaning a gallery set aside for women. Does this make Electroneum a gallery set aside for the Church?

TomP
TomP
Member
January 7, 2018 6:03 PM

Cornelius-

ELECT-roneum…a place set aside for the elect!

That is an awesome find! Love it!

Blessings!

Jemba
Jemba
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January 7, 2018 12:27 PM

Amen. It’s like a test of our faith whether we believe the Lord will lead us this far and allow us to be destroyed by the ‘Amalekites’ before reaching the promise land. Trusting the Lord is definitely a process and not something we can take a magical pill for. By the way, did you know in none of the 4 gospels does the bible ever mention how many wise men actually came to see Jesus? I came across that in one of my studies and wondered why we’ve been taught that all our lives in church 🙂 . But yes, point well noted. Blessings sister.

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 8, 2018 1:34 AM

LOL. Yes, I do know that. Must have lapsed into tradition for a moment 🙂

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 8, 2018 5:46 AM
I had a dream last night in which there was a race going on along various water canals and people in canoes were paddling furiously back and forth and passing notes to each other as they went. At some point, a woman that had been in the race disappeared. people were askign where she was but no-one knew and I was shown a portion of land on a map had been allocated her. The man she was engaged to went past in the back seat of a canoe. He wasn’t paddling and waved at me and later in the dream, I found out that he was in a house at no 43 and I planned to go and see him. When I woke up, the Lord showed me that what I had seen was the race to invest in electroneum and the passing of notes was the Z3-ers sharing info with each other on this investment. The woman that disappeared was the Bride-to-be. The race still continued with canoes going in both directions (buying and selling) after she vanished I knew it was not safe to be in the water any more. The man who waved at me is the Bridegroom who is in the canoe with investors who have invited Him in. When I saw him briefly, He was also leaving the race to go the house mentioned. When I asked the Lord what 43 signified, He said Isaiah 43, psalm 43 and 43 months. Using the lunar month of 30 days, 43 months is 1290 days (mentioned in Daniel 12:11), just a month longer than the 3&1/2 years. This confirmed 2 things for me 1)that the Bride will leave the ETN investment arena before others pull out. shortly after that, the Bridegroom’s presence will not be in that… Read more »
Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
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January 8, 2018 9:06 AM

One of the most important ETN posts we’ve had. Thanks CB. JR.

Cornelius
Cornelius
Member
January 8, 2018 6:52 AM

Just before reading your post Christine, I opened a bottle of fresh olive oil. It is so different to commercial olive oil, as it is raw and unfiltered, that I felt compelled to read your website, which is mighty interesting.

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 8, 2018 10:47 AM

Thanks, Cornelius. May you be blessed by what you read there.

Cornelius
Cornelius
Member
January 8, 2018 6:34 AM

Interesting. We have had a word already for Shevat. Nisan begins March 17, but between Shevat and Nisan is Adar, the last month of the year. Just wondering if the extra month is then denoted by Adar?

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 8, 2018 10:47 AM

concerning shevat, you can read about it here…a very interesting month:
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Shevat/shevat.html

Cornelius
Cornelius
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January 10, 2018 7:22 AM

Not too keen on the occult stuff they promote on that site Christine

Sonia
Sonia
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January 5, 2018 5:46 PM

Yes Jemba I totally agree. The grace of the Lord will be there … as we walk with Him He will be faithful to show us the way and when it is time to sell.
Shalom.

Christy
Christy
Member
January 8, 2018 12:13 AM

Is anyone else having verification problems on Coinbase?

Is there a better alternative please?

MOSES
MOSES
Member
January 8, 2018 12:33 AM

Try this for less hassle: https://localbitcoins.com/

darrell
darrell
Member
January 6, 2018 11:59 AM

can u fund the crytopia account by just signing up, I guess that’s level 1 and trade? how much in usd dollars level 1

CPJ
Member
January 5, 2018 7:00 PM

Here’s a link to a thread on a Cryptopia forum, with detailed instructions on how to attain level 2 verification — 3rd post down from the top, by “jnielsen86”

https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/3146

darrell
darrell
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January 5, 2018 6:36 PM

what is involved in level 2 verification?

taj
taj
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January 5, 2018 8:45 AM

Jamie, I had no idea there were restrictions in withdrawl of paper currency after converting the Etn coins. Here is my question, today, etn is valued around a 10 Cents per coin. If the price goes to $62, for example, obviously the market cap of ETN has increased by a factor of 600X or more; the current market cap is about $454 million and I assume that would increase by at least 600X to a number I will not try to calculate. Here’s the question, in your view, will the daily withdrawal amounts increase as the market caps
increases. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. taj

Jamie in Austria
Jamie in Austria
Member
January 5, 2018 11:17 AM

Hi Taj, honestly I wouldn’t see this changing with market cap. The exchange puts their own rules in no matter what kind of coin you are trading or the limits to that. It is a kind of KYC. Ultimately, you want larger daily withdraw rates you need to go through the levels of verification. With Cryptopia that means at least level 2 by providing ID and address. If say you had 30,000 ETN and it goes up to $60 and you have sold it all for say Lightcoin. Then your going to have probably 30 days of doing 5000 NZD limits so really is best to upgrade verification and at this moment, ETN is only on Cryptopia. So you have limited options there.

Ali
Ali
Member
January 5, 2018 2:47 PM

How do you upgrade your account to level 2?

Taj
Taj
Member
January 5, 2018 11:26 AM

Thanks… I did my honeymoon in Austria many many years ago.

Taj
Taj
Member
January 5, 2018 12:28 PM

Jamie, could you open multiple accounts with different e mail addresses and increase the withdrawal proportionately? Thanks

Sathya
Sathya
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January 6, 2018 12:37 PM
Dream of my husband: Electroneum will go up to $150-160 range and drops down and stabilizes at $100 =============================================================================== Blessed Happy New Year Z3 family!. I usually skip Forex messages on Z3. but this one from Christopher Harris from Aus, I read the article. Holy Spirit urge was very strong but we have zero knowledge on Cryptos. I would like to mention something here about our crypto opportunity. when we were in such a loss of financial due to our lack of wisdom, in 2012, one of our good Believer friend came to us explaining about bitcoin (that time less than $20), convincing us to buy bitcoin. that time also holy spirit leading was there. but both of us acting super spiritual or ignorance , we ignored that opportunity.I used to feel bad time to time.. When I read Christopher Harris post, urge of holy spirit was strong..( 2012 to 2017 my spiritual battles also very strong) .. and told my husband he agreed to invest on Electroneum. I was about write to Z3, but I din’t have solid reason to back up except my HS leading was strong in my heart. I left it.. On Jan 02, 2018 my husband got a dream.. He saw Electroneum chart.. it went first up $15 to $17 range then it went so high passed $150, $160.. then it dropped down to $100. Please ask GOD…., I beg you also, please dont be skeptic, use this opportunity wisely. God Bless you all. God also warned me that just Invest on Elertoneum and simply stay back from any crypto business. out of my curiosity, I started playing little amount on other cryptos and burned my finger. Your case may be different .Let HS lead you. it is just personal exhortation for us. Note: I… Read more »
Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 4, 2018 3:36 AM

Hi James
I have also been watching electroneum dropping down the top 100 list of cryptocurrencies on coinmarketcap. When I started watching two weeks ago, it was listed as number 45. It has been continuously sliding even though the price per electroneum has risen slightly from 7 to 8 cents…This morning it is number 70. That means it has dropped a full quarter in the top 100. Perhaps this placing is also something to watch.

When I invested in electroneum, the Lord showed me the throwing of a little stone into the ocean and how it sinks right to the bottom. Then I saw a huge storm and big waves but it was only affecting the upper part of the waters. The place where the stone lay was still and quiet and safe. I am not sure if this represents the huge turmoil in the markets as bitcoin starts crashing and electroneum being so far down below on the top hundred that it is hardly noticed and the investment remains safe and undisturbed until the moment the Lord chooses to give it resurrection power…. still asking daily for wisdom in very unfamiliar territory.

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 6, 2018 1:46 AM

Last night as I went to bed, I had a flash vision, more like a 2 second video of that same stone beginning to rise. The water around it had light penetrating it but it was still very murky. This morning when I woke, i checked coinmarketcap and ETN has risen 45% in one day.

Stirred-not-shaken
Stirred-not-shaken
Member
January 5, 2018 10:01 AM

Christine, that’s a great interpretation. Makes sense. SNS

Cornelius Kuipers
Cornelius Kuipers
Member
January 5, 2018 10:28 AM

What colour was the stone?

Christine Beadsworth
Member
January 6, 2018 3:18 AM

Just pale light brown.kind of humble color. Smooth edges like stone u skip across water

Cornelius Kuipers
Cornelius Kuipers
Member
January 6, 2018 1:09 PM

ok…love the vision..

Michele Renee
Michele Renee
Member
January 4, 2018 1:17 PM

A few weeks ago when I was contemplating investing in Electroneum, I heard “Shevat” in the middle of the night. I don’t know for certain that this Hebrew month of January/February (January 17th-February 15th this year) is connected to Electronium, but I think that there’s a good possibility it is as I had been thinking about Electroneum at the time… Praying all in the body of Christ who are investing will keep alert and move in God’s timing.🙏

Cornelius
Cornelius
Member
January 4, 2018 1:37 PM

Thanks Michele…

Christopher Harris
Member
January 6, 2018 7:12 PM
Just a comment regarding the recent moves in Electroneum prices (ETN): I believe this confirms James’ dreams were price markers and not necessarily turning points, since we went from 8 cents through the figures he saw (13, 16.3, 17) to a high of 23, currently at about 19 cents. The other figures James saw is 66 cents, 33 cents and 3.2 cents for a moment and 5.2-5.6 cents. I apologise for my interpretations of James’ dreams which didn’t play out (I was thinking his dreams may have shown 3 separate waves based on the high and low prices he saw). The dream I was shown about a huge wave (which was called a third wave in my dream but I don’t know why) I believe is potentially this price movement we are in, before the wave crashes and fishing the bottom can be done. In any case I sold out yesterday around 12.5 cents anticipating a price turn at 13. This didn’t happen (it did turn for a little) as James’ dreams of prices were not necessarily turning points (as he did say). Last night I was having a dream about something else and randomly looked at my phone and Electroneum was at 51 cents and I showed my friend. This moved me to get back in (despite the loss in coins) since I believe this price rise may not be over, but I believe after this price rise a big crash will happen (just based on my wave dream). But please don’t necessarily follow this without seeking the Lord since it is my interpretation (which can be wrong) and my original two dreams of this coin doing exceedingly well are the most important. As I said in my earlier post trading is risky, and the safest position was to… Read more »
Ali
Ali
Member
January 6, 2018 9:19 PM

Do you think it will still go to 60$ dollars? Was that a dream you had or will it possibly be .60 cents

Christopher Harris
Member
January 6, 2018 9:22 PM

James had that dream about price going to $60, it was the second post about Electroneum on Z3. Last night I had a dream of seeing the price at 51 cents, I don’t know when etc.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
Member
January 6, 2018 9:09 PM

Christopher, thanks for the update. It was a good thing for some of us that LTC sell orders were not processed on cryptopia due to some “pause”. I am not gifted like Phanuel to take profits at certain prices. I think that if we accumulate ETN at prices below about $0.20 then we should hold our ETN on rises and buy more when below 20 cents, or some sensible threshold price. Then sell them all at above $60.

Christopher Harris
Member
January 6, 2018 9:15 PM

Thanks Marcio, that’s pretty much one of the best approaches. Yeah my trading has not been the greatest (risky) and that is a safe strategy to hold ETN coins, accumulate more on dips or while still cheap. Seeing 51 cents last night doesn’t mean price will turn there, just that it will reach there. So holding until $60 is a good choice. God bless.

Jemba
Jemba
Member
January 7, 2018 2:13 AM

Christopher, many if not all of us in the z3 community who have traded have all gone through those growing pains and still do about missed opportunities of what could have been. So its okay. Jamie from Austria posted the other day that buy and hold strategy is what he’d recommend. One other thing I’ve noticed about many of the numbers revealed prophetically over the years here are rarely turning points but mere markers along the journey. There might be a few exceptions here and there but that is primarily how the Lord has led us here on z3. As James’ said, turning points and sequence are hard to time perfectly. But God is faithful to give us more opportunities ahead. I’m sure they’ll be more opportunities he’ll be revealing to us. Satya shared a dream of her husband seing ETN as high as $160. If the numbers are literal, it is just mind-boggling because the market cap would have really skyrocketed. Though mind-boggling, this type of performance is not unheard of in cryptos. Bitconnect was at $0.16 last January and 12 months later, it’s now over $400. So its not impossible. The only question is how it might fit into the short term frame which is what you shared you were shown.

EarsToHear
EarsToHear
Member
January 7, 2018 3:59 AM

Hi Jemba, when I read your post where a woman named Satya shared her husband’s dream of seeing ETN at $160, it reminded me of a recent flash vision where I saw 3 green capital letters with $134 dollars. I remember for sure the 1st two letters were ET… $134. I initially thought it might be an ETF for the stock market, because I knew nothing about ETN, and I was not even trading crypto’s, but shortly after having the flash vision Christopher put up his dream about ETN. Then when James posted about seeing ETN just over $62, I started thinking about the vision again. I have prayed to see it again, if it was for ETN but have not received anything else as of now.

I also had a very vivid dream that had James in it, with many people who I believe were the Z3 community, we were all on this treasure hunt and started digging up these beautiful rare red diamonds out of the ground, there were so many I couldn’t count them, but everyone was very excited.

I still don’t know what these dreams mean, but know when they are from The Lord. I’m not saying the dream with the green ET.. $134 is for ETN, because I honestly dont know. If anyone understands these dreams feel free to comment. The dream of people finding the rare red diamonds was a blessing, because I believe it was for many here who have suffered losses, but The Lord is going to restore back many times over what the devil has stolen.
Thank you for posting, I was moved in my heart to post this.

Stu
Stu
Member
January 7, 2018 4:49 AM

Thanks for sharing EarsToHear.

We’re all praying for the ETN miracle to happen to offset the heavy losses some of us incurred trading the traditional markets (FAZ, Silver etc – though their times to shine are coming)

But since you’re mentioning red diamonds, this morning before I logged into Z3news, I was ploughing through the cryptomarket searching for a coin that a Z3’r mentioned not too long ago. It’s called the Redd coin (RDD) and it is currently trading at 3c.
*strong fundamentals

Perhaps the red diamonds in your dream could be about this coin in addition to ETN?

Blessings!

john_nz
john_nz
Member
January 8, 2018 3:43 PM

I can identify with you Stu – I have in the past suffered very significant losses as well – but have not given up on Z3 – even though a couple of my acquaintences at ETI Facebook page have. I have looked into the discussion at IWI, and I must say Maria seems to have a gifting and also the right mindset – similar to Phanuel. What is interesting of her impression of Redd coin (RDD) – is that she sees it rocketing up to those high levels in the next 90 days – similar to what a lot of ‘micro-currencies’ have been doing this last week and a half – right now it is $0.247 – so I did a little research on it – and saw it has a lot of potential and interstingly has some similarities to ETN…
— could be the ‘red diamonds’ that EarsToHear saw…

features:
– A ‘Social’ Currency – for ‘tipping’ as a form of appreication
– Income stream to serious alt media content creators
– Money transfer is ‘instant’ – in the promos words
– Zero Transaction Fees (Both senders and recievers)
– Minting Application – (on desktop & mobile)
– Secured Online Wallet can act as node within the network
– Not a newbie – been around since 2014
– Compatible on a wide range of social networks

Going to purchase some on Crytopia today
– good time to get in

Phil - Sydney
Phil - Sydney
Member
January 10, 2018 5:25 PM

God Bless you John,
It’s been a rocky ride for me too. FAZ has been a dissappointment. Dear Phanuel has been a HUGE gift from God to Z3 news readers

regards
Phil

Stu
Stu
Member
January 10, 2018 4:45 PM

I agree with you 100% john_nz and thank you for the post!
I believe we’re on the threshold of a serious wealth transfer!
“…I will RESTORE…” saith the Lord!

EarsToHear
EarsToHear
Member
January 7, 2018 8:34 AM

Stu, since you mentioned FAZ, I wanted to say that The Lord showed me it will go to $46 and I also saw it at $69, but I do not know when that will happen, I was in FAZ some time ago, and sold it, realizing it would take longer than I expected for a crash.

EarsToHear
EarsToHear
Member
January 7, 2018 7:48 AM

Your welcome Stu, when you mentioned ReddCoin I almost fell out of my seat, because a few days ago, I had text a friend from work, and asked him what he thought about ReddCoin, because he buys crypto’s, and I’m a beginner at this crypto trading. He didn’t text me back, but I saw him yesterday, and told him I had text him about ReddCoin, and that it had really soared up in price in the last couple of days, it was under a penny a couple of days ago. You may be on to something, I was thinking about buying some last week and again yesterday. This could be a confirmation, we need to pray The Lord reveal what to do. God bless you.

Karen G
Member
January 7, 2018 8:31 AM

Maria from IWI recommended Redd a couple days ago, she said the Lord revealed to her it would go to $5 in a short time.

EarsToHear
EarsToHear
Member
January 7, 2018 8:43 AM

Thank you Karen, sounds like a lot of confirmations, I believe that’s 3. God bless you.

Stu
Stu
Member
January 7, 2018 9:37 AM

Confirmation done, this is great!
I was in FAZ too (a horrible experience) but I saw it at $59 in a dream last year!

God is going to more than restore because He’s a JUST God! We must pray for wisdom (when) we’ve taken the spoils from Egypt.

I wonder if James will accept cryptos or stick to fiat for the tithes and offerings?

Blessings!

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
Member
January 8, 2018 6:07 PM

JB. It was RDD. JR

Sonia
Sonia
Member
January 7, 2018 12:54 PM

Hi Karen, I tried to find the IWI site but was unable to. Do you have the website address ? Thanks !
Blessings !

Karen G
Member
January 7, 2018 1:27 PM

Hi Sonia, I meant Investing with insight 🙂
https://www.investingwithinsight.com/revelationthread.php?mrid=22152#r22277
I am quoting part of her comment
“Red coin has been on my mind and spirit lately. This is a coin that tips other users in social media which is recently a very popular thing to do. So if you like someone’s content or post you could tip them or if you want to tip in the traditional sense down the road you could use this coin. I am not sure of what other future applications are planned or how else this could be used. Red coin is at two cents and has been staying there. But the lord revealed it will be going up to 5$ and in short time frame -so to me this word feels the same as when the lord told me about litecoin in September and then litecoin jumped in December. So I believe this means within 90 days”

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 7, 2018 2:52 PM

Thanks for all these Reddcoin confirmations. My dear brother Ed H mentioned it to me some weeks ago when it mooned over 300%. Anytime I look at it, I’m drawn to it. It one of those few coins I’m drawn too. I just crunched some numbers and a good entry is 0.028 cents. Its going to triple from here.

shalom

Taj
Taj
Member
January 8, 2018 10:23 AM

Agree. Was drawn to it without knowing anything. Shalom. Taj

Sonia
Sonia
Member
January 7, 2018 4:59 PM

Thanks Karen !

Christopher Harris
Member
January 7, 2018 3:58 AM

Dear Jemba thank you for that. Yeah turning points are difficult to predict, even when given numbers by the Lord. I will be more cautious about this. You are right these numbers are certainly not unheard of in Cryptos.

My dream was that the coin would do very well in a short time frame, but not necessarily that it would reach $60-100 in a short time frame, though I believe it will be relatively short. I didn’t see numbers myself in my first two dreams or the wave dream, the first number I saw was last night in a dream of 51 cents (felt like just a checkpoint or marker going up past this price, which to me felt like I should get back in, and I did).

But in my first two dreams I felt it was going to be at least multi dollar in a short time frame. I believe this will be fulfilled. Beyond that I’m not sure on the time frame, but I still believe it wont be that long. I wouldn’t guess what the price would be in 6 months to a year, potentially even sooner these prices could be fulfilled. We will see, just wanted to mention that. The Lord will raise this coin exceedingly on His timing, but I believe it is going to be quick. May God bless you.

Marnie
Marnie
Member
January 7, 2018 3:41 AM

I appreciate everyone sharing their opinions here. I had a buy order for LTC/ETN they didn’t get filled. And now the price has doubled so quickly and trading for that pair paused. Had some regret that I didn’t act sooner. Hoping it will dip down again, but even if not, anything below a dollar is still low if it eventually gets into the double digits. Blessings to all.

Cornelius
Cornelius
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January 7, 2018 3:57 AM

Yes. I was so cross with myself for not taking Ethereum at 40 cents that I refused to buy it a 2 dollars…lol.

Marnie
Marnie
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January 7, 2018 4:20 AM

I actually did laugh out loud when I read that 🙂 I suppose I’m putting extra pressure on myself because I can finally see a light at the end of the tunnel for getting out of debt. If it weren’t for the Lord’s leading I would never have considered getting into crypto. So I’m thankful 🙏. In Jesus’ name, let us all be free of debt and prosperous to accomplish His will.

EarsToHear
EarsToHear
Member
January 11, 2018 8:55 AM

Don’t feel bad Cornelius, I was told by someone to invest in BTC several years ago. I thought it was a scam, LOL, I guess it’s hard to teach this old dog new tricks, I’m very slow to getting around to doing new things. I kept my old flip cell phone for many many years, as a matter of fact, I just bought my first smart phone 5-6 months ago. I remember seeing a YouTube video of a Pastor saying, let me introduce you to America’s new God, and He held up a smart phone in his hand to show it to the church audience.

James Grubbs
James Grubbs
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January 5, 2018 12:30 AM

Hello all,
If you are planning on buying ETN (Electroneum) as an investment of sorts because of the prophecies people are giving us and not planning on full fledged crypto trading thats fine as I did as well but if you aren’t going to trade past buying ETN as an investment then please…please…please… did I say PLEASE… create a ***NEW** Electroneum paper wallet and transfer all your ETN back from cryptopia to that new PAPER WALLET. Then put it in a safe just like and stock or bond certificate investment. Don’t leave it in a cryptopia wallet. They are a major hacker target and eventually it’s going to happen. every time yu buy more crypto of any sort, create a new wallet and paper is best if possible. Be safe folks and God bless.

Julz
Julz
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January 5, 2018 1:30 AM

My personal view on this especially for those starting out is that managing your own paper and desktops wallets can open you up to more risk of losing your coins than leaving them with a reputable exchange. Personal PC’s are more prone to failure and hacking than sophisticated exchanges. I hear so many stories of people losing their coins to mismanagement.

If a massive systemic hack occurs again as significant as MtGox then nobody is safe anyway. All coins even those in paper wallets may well lose most of their value following the inevitable panic sell off.

Established exchanges have moved on significantly since MtGox while personal PC security and personal human error has not.

I don’t think we should be scaring new crypto enthusiasts into believing every exchange is an immanent threat to them…

Nancy
Nancy
Member
January 5, 2018 1:34 AM

Can you please give us a heads-up as to how this is done?

CPJ
Member
January 5, 2018 2:10 PM

https://electroneum101.com/how-to-create-an-electroneum-paper-wallet/

I created a paper wallet last week by following these directions, step by step. Then this next instructional article below for checking to see if your coins made it to the paper wallet was also very helpful.

https://electroneum101.com/check-electroneum-paper-wallet-balance/

Rex
Rex
Member
January 5, 2018 11:17 PM

Thanks CPJ! I’ve had the paper wallet a while, have not made the transfer yet…tomorrow 👍

James Grubbs
James Grubbs
Member
January 5, 2018 6:50 PM

CPJ gotcha covered below. just make sure to use a new wallet each time you make a transaction and when finished making your transactions, create a paper wallet and store all your coins there. A paper wallet keeps your coins from being electronically accessible and never use the same paper wallet twice.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
Member
January 5, 2018 9:56 PM

The problem I have seen using the ETN paper wallet is the high difficulty in getting the ETN back out. There are so many steps that it would be too difficult for too many of us to do without mistakes.

James Grubbs
James Grubbs
Member
January 6, 2018 11:41 AM

Did you go to https://my.electroneum.com? It is pretty straight forward. What I have noticed with cryto-currency exchange is a the fees. You will pay a small fee for converting back and forth but it is a small fee. There are lots of brilliant people that are just technically challenged. I wished they had a place for people to practice all this stuff. BTW, I have been a programmer for over thirty years and I too found this stuff difficult at first but it’s Really more time consuming than difficult to learn.

Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
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January 6, 2018 2:43 PM

James Grubbs,
Thanks for the encouragement. God bless.

Joe7
Member
January 5, 2018 12:12 AM
This is my 1st comment on this site. Seeing the bit of confusion here with dreams of electroneum I’ve felt compelled to share what I think may hold a bit of wisdom amongst this confusion. I am going to place my strategy for buying in here. In all honesty, I’m close to being broke and living on the streets, but of what I have read, I perceive that the Lord might fix my situation with this insight concerning this investment… There have been great comments here possessing wisdom to the approach of investing. One of being prudent/careful. Another of bringing forth experience from JR. Let me tell you what I see and what I see fit to do. One man CH has a dream of providential blessing ordained by God. Another JB has a dream as he questions God az to whether he should invest based upon CH’s dream? He is shown a figure in a first dream of $62.25. Then has a 2nd dream releasing him to share what he saw. Down the line JR interjects hiz thoughts on what the Lord would not do. Based on his experiences. I do beleive JR’S thoughts on this sere indeed wrong. And CH’S response to him accurate. But I do not want to lead to a note that JR’S comments were not important. JR is the voice of experience in theze matters of which we all are less experienced. But dealing with God we all are just learning… Hence, this is what I intend to do… I’m to put $200 on this splitting it in half on both directions. 10x times is definitely a good return, as JR said. $100. or half I will stop at .65 cents bringing a 10x return. The other I will keep out there should a… Read more »
Marcio Ferez Jr.
Marcio Ferez Jr.
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January 5, 2018 10:15 PM

Joe7, that sounds like Solomonic wisdom. Split it in half.

taj
taj
Member
January 5, 2018 8:35 AM

Thanks Joe7…Smart.

Christine Beadsworth
Member
July 24, 2018 8:37 AM

ETn hasn’t been in discussions for a while but a brother alerted me to a competition that is running until the end of July where one can win 40 000 ETN – quite a boost for ministry purposes. I am not on any of the social media platforms (unless Z3 qualifies under ‘other 🙂 …) but here is the link for anyone who feels led to enter:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd-xP8KL59agIs1yCS58YWWXyu9tV_9mWZ1ChbU3MNB1BUi3g/viewform

Phanuel
Phanuel
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January 6, 2018 10:12 PM

Crypto Evening update( CoB, ETN, BTA, LTC)

1. COB… is consolidating at .50 cents for the next ramp up (chart and prophetic) which is over $1.

2. ETN… I think ETN is consolidating at .17 to .19 next resistance is 0.33 (chart).

3. BTA — had an expected pullback to 0.90. I think It’s heading to $2 (chart).

4. LTC —- $800 will soon be fulfilled (prophetic) . But this is just the appetizer. Ltc is going to the moon literally (prophetic). It is going over $1000 ( chart). It should break the next trendline between now and Jan 11.

5. The LSK blockchain is super fast. It makes ETH look like a turtle.

Shalom

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:00 PM

Hi Phanuel, Heather had to take Aiydn to an appo. I ran the address in ehterscan.io and nothing shows so far. I so thank you for all the help you have given us and your patience. I can’t figure out how to get into Cob which will not accept my email or login, but am still trying. Randeen Heather’s mom

David
David
Member
January 7, 2018 9:00 PM

Phanuel,
Do you see a correction for LTC before going to 800, or would you still buy at these levels.

Thank you.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 7, 2018 9:17 PM

No David
I think LTC is mooning like tomorrow (figuratively). The Lord told me yesterday “you need more Litecoin “ … so I added more. I looked at the chart….$1000 and above on this next move. It confirmed the prophetic word.

Recall ..the word of the Lord came to me…”Set up and Launch CoB, also Litecoin “…..,( like Houston go for Lauch)

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 7, 2018 11:51 PM

do you have a recommendation of lesser coins to put the LTC profit taking into? OR do you recommend getting silver right now? (note-We cant get into COB for some reason and so were not even trying on that one anymore) is it acceptable to fully get out of theses coins (LTC) and try to buy in when the crash happens or do you recommend staying in (-we have 6 coins )
Thank you so very much Phanual for all this work your doing to benefit the Lords children as we are getting closer to debt freedom

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 1:34 AM

Heather
have you tried the COB exchange?
https://cobinhood.com/trade/COB-ETH
The crash will be tricky. As you know the exchanges will probably go down and most people won’t be able to get the cheap prices. This always happens….Coinbase goes down,..now Gemini goes down etc etc. I think it’s best to use profits to buy silver now and also to pay down debts. APmex accepts bitcoin. So use exodus wallet to swap other coins to bitcoin and send bitcoin to an APMEX link. I think it’s best to always keep a certain amount of some tokens (in your private wallets) no matter what. Also keep some cash on the exchanges to try to get the chaeper prices. This way you don’t miss out on anything.

Blessings

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 12:17 PM

Thank you for such sound advise -silver is what I am leaning towards
it is the cobinhood exchange that we cant get into -we are in correspondence with the company -they are having us take screenshots of the error messages that wont let us proceed -it seems they are confused about it too- (we accidental registered with a fishing scam site -lost the coins and now the real site wont recognize us) working and waiting on them – in the meantime , can you recommend a site that lets you keep a USD wallet (is that a private- wallet? or is that an exchange?) as coin exchange just goes straight back to the bank

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 12:47 PM

Heather
How many COBs did you loose?
I prefer to keep cash on an exchange like Gemini

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:03 PM

We signed up for Gemini last week but they are still working on the validation.

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 1:32 PM

we had bought 238. cobs at .50 cents -ok awesome we are still waiting on set up with Gemini as they just began operating in the state we live in – another question –are we supposed to hold XLR and ETN during the crash or are we supposed to try to cash out ?-(I thought those were long term ish investments and to hold em ) but just want clarification , if you happen to know -thank you again ..so so so much

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 3:06 PM

Heather,
what is your MEW public address….will send you the COB you lost…..yes Im holding XLR.

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 4:48 PM

OK so That is super amazing !!! Thank you so much for your kindness —yaaa !!! -so we just set one up and here is the address- just send a test one please so we can figure out how this works and also does the cobbs – only be sold on cobinhood -in case we may not be able to register there? I hope this is it? public key
0x27e8F64C7d1c0242E99DBFf94063CDeEB52bf1E3

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 6:30 PM

Heather
sent a test…did it make it?
you can sell COB for BTC on Mercatox.com

Sonia
Sonia
Member
January 8, 2018 9:38 PM

Phanuel, When did you place your limit order to sell cob on Mercatox? I tried to obtain a Cob deposit address tonight on Mercatox and the address was not available. I checked with Reddit and it appears that Mercatox prefers Bitcoins and tend to manipulate the incoming flow of certain coins.
Have you had any issue with Mercatox in the past ?
Thanks !
Shalom!

Jemba
Jemba
Member
January 8, 2018 10:15 PM

Sonia, I’m having the same issues. There’s no Cob deposit address in Mercatox so I still gotta figure out how to liquidate some of my cob. Etherdelta is the only other exchange I believe.

Jim Reeve
Jim Reeve
Member
January 9, 2018 9:13 AM

JEMBA. I’ve haven’t played around with this, but couldn’t you just purchase one COB coin with some BTC and that would establish the wallet. Then move coins in to join the one you purchased? I know it sound convoluted, but it seems that would work. JR’’’

TomP
TomP
Member
January 9, 2018 11:09 AM

All,

Here is the information to withdraw BTC off Mercatox. There is a sliding scale where you can increase your fee to improve the speed and likelihood that your BTC is transferred to another address. Currently minimum of $7.36 or maximum of $73.68.

You can select your fee per transaction.

The speed of confirmation of the transaction in the Bitcoin network depends on amount of fee and current network conditions. Transactions with low fee can never receive confirmation on the network. The higher the fee the faster the transaction will be confirmed.

Minimum fee 0.0005, Maximum fee 0.005, Recommended fee per tx 0.001.

JDpeet33
Member
January 9, 2018 3:57 PM

I chose recommended fee, waited for 12 hours, checked the transaction and it said email confirmation. Just found the email they sent me and found you have to click on the confirm button!! Oops. Don’t forget that step. Similar to their email log-on confirmation. JD

TomP
TomP
Member
January 9, 2018 10:59 AM

Folks,

I transferred some BTC into Mercatox and the proceeded to buy a few COB coins. After my wallet was funded with COB, I tried to deposit additional coins and still received a, “not available” message when trying to get a deposit address.

JR…was a logical suggestion and worth a try, but at this point not working.

I looked to withdraw my COB coins and this popped up:

Mininimum amount for withdraw 30.00000000 COB
Transaction fee:15.00000000 COB
Total amount: ~0.00000000
submit

So…it appears that the fee to withdraw coins is 15 COB’s!? Current price $1.77 so a fee of $26.55 to withdraw 30 COB’s!? That is scary if it stays at 15 COB’s…very expensive now….what happens when COB moves up into the $10+ or higher range? I played with it a bit and the fee did not change whether I put a withdrawal of 30 or 1000 COB’s…fee stayed at 15. I have not tried to sell COB’s and convert to other currency, so I do not know what the fees are for those. I’ll just keep these on here for now.

NOTE: LTC wallets are all under a maintenance and you cannot deposit or withdraw right now.

Blessings!

TomP
TomP
Member
January 9, 2018 9:37 AM

Hi JR,

That is a good suggestion. I’ll try that out shortly and report back to the board. I’m thinking I saw a minimum purchase requirement, but may be confusing that with one of the other exchanges. Regardless….I’ll try the process.

Thanks for the idea. Blessings!

Sonia
Sonia
Member
January 9, 2018 6:43 AM

Jemba, I think their website is programmed in such a way that new users cannot deposit some coins (like new alt coins ) before they deposit BTC … I can get a BTC deposit address but can’t get a Cob address. I will test again later on and see …

TomP
TomP
Member
January 8, 2018 11:18 PM

Hey Jemba,

Same here…when I click on COB to get a deposit I get a “not available” message too. They may be overloaded!?

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 10:08 PM

Sonia
I placed it like 30 minutes ago
I saw the price go up to $4! I almost sold a batch at that price.
Mercatox is not my favorite ..it had issues in the past …it seems better now.

Richard
Richard
Member
January 9, 2018 9:54 AM

It looks like you can sell COB on Mercatox at $1.75 anytime.

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:45 PM

Phanuel, this is Heather’s Mom, I finally figured out how to show COB on my ether wallet. There is 1 COB showing as balance. Could you tell me how and where to put it or just leave it there on the paper wallet? Thanks Randeen

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 8:07 PM

Great! Heather’s mom
just leave it right there..I’m sending the rest.

shalom

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:05 PM

Phanuei Heather is gone right now. I checked etherscan.io with the public address key but it isn’t showing up yet.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 6:32 PM

Heather you have to click on show tokens and click on COB.

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 8:14 PM

This IS Heather -Im Back!!! WE GOT OUR 1 COB AND HAPPY DANCIN!! WHOO HOO!!!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 8:31 PM

Hi Heather,
I sent the rest. I can see you received it in your wallet, so you don’t have to say anything here on Z3.

shalom!!

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 9, 2018 3:22 PM

Phanual- just checked the balance -brother thank you so much , we are so humbled and praising the Lord for your generosity – may the Lord God of heaven and earth bless and keep you -your just a treasure to His Kingdom Realm shining so brightly

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 9, 2018 6:47 PM

Blessings Heather…Amen!
The Lord encouraged me to look after you ..the first day you asked about cryptos.

shalom

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:59 PM

I got it, thank you! It is showing up under the tokens as 1 Cob

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:16 PM

check tokens where? on the myetherwallet page or on etherscan.io. Checked etherscan but will go check on myetherscan page I am so very not good at this! Once I learn it makes sense but the directions and what happens just doen’t seem to mesh, lol!

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 7:20 PM

on the mew page …on the right close to the bottom…below the ETH balance…there is Token balances…its say show tokens.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 7:22 PM

I can see it went through to your address on etherscan, but I want to make sure you know how you see your token balance

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 7:23 PM

*you know how to see (error)

Heather C-littledove
Heather C-littledove
Member
January 8, 2018 7:18 PM

sorry, etherwallet page, which said best place to check is etherscan.io

David
David
Member
January 7, 2018 11:01 PM

Phanuel,
Thanks very much for The fast reply brother.
Thanks for all you bro, it’s greatly appreciated.

Phanuel
Phanuel
Member
January 8, 2018 1:34 AM

your welcome David!

john_nz
john_nz
Member
January 8, 2018 6:47 PM

Hi Phanuel – was at COB exchange – sold 500 tokens (1.06USD value) into BTC – but the withdraw BTC is greyed out ?? – have you expereinced this – was going to try to sell at Mercator – but Mercator platform is only supporting BTC at the moment – thought I could try as you did – to arbitrage trade – putting in a limit order of 1.50USD value of BTC

Casey Toda
Casey
Member
January 6, 2018 9:09 AM

I felt like God really wants us to pray for electroneum and some of the others God has highlighted for us to invest in. Like Chris said, the finances raised through these investments will be for warfare purposes for His Kingdom. That means that satan and his kingdom will do whatever he can to make these companies and projects fail and he will try to attack those who are in these companies just like he is trying to attack those who are investing for God’s purposes. There is going to be increasing warfare in all this. I felt like God was warning us all to pray for these people, projects and companies and also really keep ourselves, our families and eachother covered in prayer because as these things really start to kick into fear things will heat up. Part of the delay in the rise in some of these, is because God is preparing us and all these things in His timing and we need to be prepared. Like it has been talked about in the comments already regarding setting up preemptively our exit strategy and resources so too we must premptively prepare ourselves spiritually during the lull and waiting period. Praise God!