Many Christians today are looking for the return of the Lord and the rapture to bail them out of the troubles of this life, but God’s word reveals He is not returning for a frightened, powerless Church running for their lives, but a glorious Church without spot or wrinkle, holy and blameless. (Ephesians 5:27) It’s not hard to see the Church today is not there yet.
There is a popular teaching the return of the Lord is imminent, that He could come back at any moment, but that contradicts many Bible prophecies that must be fulfilled before He returns. These unscriptural teachings are popular because they tell us what we all want to hear, heaven is near and all our troubles will be long gone. We could avoid being misled by this foolishness just by reading the Bible.
Some take it even a step further by setting specific dates for His return. There seems to be a new date set every year. I’ve given up wasting my time debating these people here on Z3 News because so far, none of them have shown any interest in what the Bible says. Then, when nothing happens on their big date, instead of humbly repenting of their errors, they continue stiff-necked, setting another date a few months later. They make the Church a laughingstock to the whole world. Many of us have seen their ridicule posted on social media and it’s well deserved.
According to the Bible, there are many major events that must happen before the Lord returns. Here’s a list of 15 of them.
- A major world war must happen after the antichrist receives his first crown. (Revelation 6:1-4)
- A major worldwide economic collapse with hyper-inflation must happen after the world war that follows the antichrist receiving his first crown. (Revelation 6:4-6)
- One fourth of the earth must suffer famine, pestilence and more killing with the sword after the events listed above. (Revelation 6:7-8)
- Great earthquakes powerful enough to move mountains and islands must happen in various places. There are prophecies about a 12.2 hitting the west coast of the United States, which would be far greater than any earthquake in history. (Matthew 24:7, Revelation 6:12-17)
- The third temple must be built in Jerusalem. (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, Revelation 11:1-2, Daniel 8:11-14) This would require major political changes and a lengthy construction period.
- The kingdom of the beast must be established. (Daniel 7:23-27, Revelation 13) Today we see the United States standing in its’ way, so the rise of the beast kingdom would require major changes in global currencies, governments, economies, and militaries.
- The antichrist must make a seven-year covenant. (Daniel 9:27)
- The antichrist must pretend to honor the seven-year covenant for the first three and a half years when he ultimately violates it. (Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15)
- The power of the holy ones must be shattered. (Revelation 13:5-7 and Daniel 9:27)
- A great falling away from the faith must happen. (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, Matthew 24:9-10)
- The man of lawlessness must be revealed to the world. (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3)
- The Gospel must be proclaimed throughout the whole world. (Matthew 24:14)
- The Church must become holy, righteous, without spot or blemish. (Ephesians 4:11-16, Ephesians 5:25-27) Today, the Church is filled with compromise with sin.
- The Church must be built on the foundation of the ministry of the apostles and prophets. (Ephesians 2:20) Today, the Church is built on the ministry of pastors, teachers, and evangelists while apostles and prophets are mostly treated as outcasts, too spooky to even talk about.
- Believers must do greater works than Jesus did. (John 14:12) Many have done some of the works He did, but what about greater works?
For a more in depth study of these events, please see my post, Ten Things that Must Happen Before the Rapture.
How long will it take for all these things to be fulfilled? Considering their magnitude, many of these events will take years, so we still have a long way to go.
Although we don’t know the day or the hour of His return, He said we would know the season. Jesus compared it to how we know summer is near when we see leaves budding on a fig tree. (Matthew 24:32-33) So, God wants us to know where we are on His timeline and has given us many clues, not only in the Bible, but also prophetically.
In the 5-minute video shown at the bottom of this post, the late prophet Bob Jones shares a hundred-year prophecy he claims he received from God, which starts back in the 1950’s. The video was published September 26, 2009. The following provides a transcript of his comments.
“Years ago, he gave me a hundred year prophecy.
The 1950’s revealed the power of God… William Branham, AA Allen, Oral Roberts, and Jack Coe.
The 1960’s revealed the Spirit of God. That’s when the baptism of the Holy Spirit began to come into denominations.
The 1970’s was the Word of God. That’s when really inspired teachers began to be raised up and showed us new understanding of the written Word.
The 1980’s began to reveal the prophets of God, people who get the inspired word of God.
In the 1990’s, we began to get a revelation of the government of God.
In the 2000’s, we got the glory of God, a lot of these gold flakes and gold teeth and everything, it’s on the verge of revealing the glory of God.
The 2010‘s will reveal the faith of God. It’s not having faith in God, but having the faith of God.
The 2020’s will reveal the rest of God. We as the body will come into a place of resting in God where God will rest in us. In this rest, the enemy will not be able to do warfare because we are resting in God and He is resting in us and He will accomplish the things He means to do in a people that is at rest. He has always wanted a people that would come into His rest, but there never has been one, but it’s on the way.
The 2030’s will reveal the family of God. There will be such a unity. If you pick on one, you pick on them all. And intercession, where if you’re picking on one, intercessors are mediating all over. They come right in. It’s a family.
The 2040’s will reveal the coming forth of the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom authority, Kingdom sons, sons of the Kingdom.
The 2050’s will reveal the sons of God. They’ll grow into where they have a light on and a likeness to the Son of God.
I saw up to 2060. That’s as far as I saw. And the church was here. It wasn’t beat down. It was walking in the glory of God. It had the power of God on it. It had power over death. It had power over weather. It had power over everything.
We are in a time of growing. I don’t know what season it comes in there, but there will be a season in those last 30 years to where death will have no part over those that are the sons of God. There is a generation, they won’t know death and I believe these youths that are getting ready and these youths that are being prepared now and those that are not yet saved, they won’t be afraid of death because they will go everyplace in the world. They’ll take it. They won’t be able to stop them. We know in the last days, some of these, that if you take their life, they have the power to raise it up again. I was seeing that kind of resurrection power in the Church in the last days. I don’t know when it will begin, but I really felt that it will begin in the 2030s.”
Bob Jones was not given a specific date or year for the Lord’s return. He was only shown events leading up to 2060 and did not even mention the Lord’s return, so perhaps some of what he saw happens after the return of the Lord. He even said, “there will be a season in those last 30 years to where death will have no part over those that are the sons of God.” Death will have no part over those that are the sons of God? That sounds like the millennial reign when the sons of God will be living on earth in our new glorified bodies.
Prophecies recorded in the Bible include events after the Lord’s return, so perhaps some of what Bob Jones saw also happens afterwards. Just because he described themes for each decade does not necessarily mean it all happens before the Lord’s return. The world does not end when the Lord returns. So, perhaps when Bob Jones saw Kingdom authority coming in the 2040’s, he was seeing the fulfillment of what Jesus said,
26 “He who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations;
27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of the potter are broken to pieces, as I also have received authority from My Father;” (Revelation 2:26-27)
Then Bob Jones said, “The 2050’s will reveal the sons of God. They’ll grow into where they have a light on and a likeness to the Son of God.” God’s people don’t stop growing or developing after the Lord returns. Our lives will continue forever and ever with Him and we will continue learning and growing forever too. So, perhaps he was seeing our continued development during the millennial reign.
If everything he saw happens prior to the Lord’s return, it would mean we still have another 43 years to go, which sounds like an eternity. Many people living today will still be alive then, but many others won’t be. For example, Barack Obama, whom many of us believe will play a key role in end time events, will be 99 years old in 2060, which is old, but sounds possible.
The promise of the Lord’s return gives us great hope for the future, but we still have much important work to do while we’re waiting. So, regardless of the timing, we must stay focused on our current assignments while resting in the awesome promises for the days to come.
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Any body knows is there a prophetic word confirming the person who will sign the peace treaty with Israel , allowing Israel to build the new temple of God in the future, is the ANTI-CHRIST?
http://prophecysigns.com/prophecy-sign-7/
The antichrist makes a firm covenant with the many for seven years. (Daniel 9:27) The details of the covenant are not identified, but it might have something to do with construction of the temple because the same verse goes on to say “he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering.” Those could not resume without the temple.
Daryl Lawson received a prophetic dream in which he saw Obama facilitating construction of the third temple. Here’s the link:
https://z3news.com/w/obama-facilitate-construction-third-temple-jerusalem/
Thanks James,
Current Australian News.
Same sex marriage approved by Australian ABS survey. What a disaster, but accurate warning by Alison pound on z3news. We contributed over $1000 to the NO campaign but the fight continues. Religious freedoms must now be fought for,
God bless all US readers. We will now have a common problem in Australia as you have endured for a number of years,
Phil
Just an idea on the 2060 concept. Biblical years vs Solar years. a Biblical year is 360 days a solar year is 365.25 days. 2060 x 360 = 741600 days / 365.25 = 2030.39 Biblical year 2060 would be the same as Solar year 2030.
Solar year mean gorgarian calendar ??
Yes, I should have called it that.
gregorian
this is interesting !!!
I will say this to all.
The Pharisees, the Scribes and the Teachers of the law in Jesus days MISSED His coming. Though they carried the Torah on their heads and arms yet they missed Him. Only the Magi from foreign land knew. They were watching and had discernment.
Do you know that the Jews despite having the Torah did not know that their Messiah has come and gone till today? Will this also happen to us?
Here we are intelligently quoting scriptures to back us up (which is good), and arguing passionately pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib. Now we have a long list that positions His coming by 2060-2067. Let us ask ourselves what is the Spirit saying to us individually? The letter kills, the Spirit gives life.PLEASE let us not miss His coming. Five virgins let their guards down and missed Him. We were warned.
Jesus’s word says that in the last days he would shorten the days or no flesh would be saved. Bob Jones may of been given a 100 year projection of time, but it may be shortened a lot. The word also says to pray that we are counted worthy to escape those things that are coming. The intense labor pains that are upon us now are a good indication of how soon the Lord will be returning. The Lord spoke to me once and said the false labor pains are over, and the real ones have began. It would be nice if we had more time, but I don’t see it. We are at the tipping point of losing millions of souls to Hell world wide.
The word says we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers. The demons that are being let lose are far greater in evil than in the past. God is not masochistic. He takes no joy in watching his people suffer.
I had a dream a few days ago. In the dream I was walking along the side of a large building. I saw the back all on fire. There was a window at the back. I looked inside and saw people in the building. I rushed inside to warn them they needed to leave at once as the building was on fire.
Inside the building were small cells, each containing a person that had been locked up inside. Many had been there for a long time. I knew I had to get the doors unlocked and the people released as soon as possible, or they would be killed by fire. I looked down and saw a huge key ring with hundreds of keys on it to open doors, but I realized I did not have time to go through all the keys to unlock doors.
I grabbed a key and tried it, the first door opened. A person came out the door who was resigned to their situation, had no hope, no joy. This person just existed. As I continued to open doors most of the people had the same attitude, no hope, no nothing. I got half the people released and saw a man against a wall saying I was not to go to the garage. I continued unlocking doors until just about every door was opened. Then I woke up.
I believe the Lord is saying there is no time left, and no turning back. It has begun. The fire that was foretold, that would destroy the earth in the last days is here. We need to reach these people and get them saved or they will be thrown into the lake of fire. I think things are going to get so bad people will be trapped with no way out. Their only blessed hope will be accepting Jesus, and knowing their future is blessed with him. Jesus will give us the super natural knowledge to save these people, to reach them. We made not know what the answer is but he does. That’s why the first key I reached for worked. But the enemy will try to say we can’t help or go where we need to do. The enemy did not try to physically stop me, he only spoke words. The Lord always prepares me for what is coming. I believe it is imminent.
To those of you who are concerned about not being prepared, the Lord spoke the following words, and gave me a vision.
I was asking the Lord if there was any words I could give to comfort and encourage people, because many were upset at what was happening to their finances. This is what I believe he revealed to me.
Jesus said to me, “What do you see? I thought about it and said, “I see a park.” Jesus said, “”What more do you see, look around.” Then I said, “I see you Jesus,” and I was filled with happiness because he was there. Then he asked me to look around again, and he said, “What else do you see?” I said, I see an ark.” He said, “Yes. This ark is for my people for the days ahead. Many are concerned about preparing. But I have built an ark for those that are mine.” This is their place of safety when the rains come. When the time comes each of my children will be placed inside. I will carry each of my children through what they will face.”
I felt him saying, “How many dreams have I given to my children? Did they see me there with them, or did they see them-self all alone. You are not alone.”
I was not given a time frame for when things will start happening, but to me it is important to see Jesus in a lot of the dreams everyone is having. I am not saying the dreams are not from the Lord, but he is saying, “Am I in the dream?”
Thank you for sharing those awesome experiences! Praise the Lord! May God bless you.
Mena Lee Grebin, 4 oct post “… it has begun”
http://watchmanonthewall33.blogspot.co.nz/
“For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.” (1st Corinthians 13:12)
Ashleigh Quinn has a prophetic word about Obama coming back to power.
https://lighthascome.com/2017/10/06/prophetic-word-he-will-be-king-without-election-no-elections-babylon-will-have-her-last-king-ashleigh-quinn/
Very refreshing to hear of SOMEONE who doesn’t buy into the lie that the rapture is eminent! Also, this is the first article, other than my own, that I have ever heard anyone mention the faith OF God, as opposed to “faith in God”. Great!
Well, I remember: 2000 years ago the jews knew exactly who the messiah will be, what he will do and what his message will be. But one day Jesus came and proclaimed he is the messiah – and the Jews didn’t believe him.
Sometimes I think this will repeat again with his second coming: Jesus will say “Here I am!” and the most members of the churches wouldn’t believe him, because of the list of fifteen things. And Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj preached: We do know nothing about HIS second coming.
For instance “5. The third temple must be built in Jerusalem.” I read in Skt. John: «Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. […] But he spake of the temple of his body.» (Joh 2,19+21) And Paul wrote: «What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?» (1.Kor 6,19) So I think each body of a true believer in Christ is a holy temple of God. I believe: This, the body of Christ, is the third temple and there will be no other! Why? Well HE is living in this body, and he will never stay again in a man made building (1.King 8,13).
The question is: What is the meaning of «When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)» (Mat 24,15)? Well, the heart of Christianity is a relationship in love with HIM, like a marriage between one man and one woman (Hos 1; Ez 16; Mat 22,1-15; 25,1-13; Eph 5,30-33). But HE hate homosexuality: «Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.» (Lev 18,22) So I asked myself: Is the same-sex-marriage the abomination of desolation? So in my point of view I can see the fullfillment of point 5 in the present time. And I don’t wait for a third man-made-temple in Jerusalem.
What about the generation that wont pass when israel becones a nation that does not leave alot of time
I agree the rebirth of Israel is a significant prophetic event, but I can’t find anywhere in the Bible where the timing of that event is connected with a generation who will not all pass away. Jesus did not mention it in Matthew 24.
I believe he’s referring to Matthew 24:32 “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” James, are you saying Jesus never said that the rebirth of Israel is the start of the signs of the end times? Wow – I’ve always believed that, but I can’t tell you where it says that in the Bible.
Isaiah 11:11-12 reveals the people of Israel will return to their land a second time, but I don’t know of any scripture specifically connecting that event to Matthew 24:32 because Jesus did not mention it. It might be true, but my point was not to rely too much on it if we can’t find any scriptures to back it up.
Understanding animal husbandry and bloodlines made me realize when God told the Israelites to move forward and eradicate all He was NOT being a Big Meanie as unbelievers like to claim. It was getting rid of the bad blood DNA seed. He TOLD them NOT to take wives. But, “Oh…she’s SO PURTY” they did and the bsd blood went forth.
When the Lord said to kill ever man, woman a d child AND LIVESTOCK He was not bein mean and vengeful. It meant that region was sooooo bad it was as In The Time of Noe human/animal offspring.
That refers to Chimera creatures . And our CURRENT global societies is gene splicing humans/animals Now Chimeras are the rage in some areas.
God talks about having to shorten or no flesh left. Chimeras. Robotics Artfcial Intelligence, Etc.
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BOOM! THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS AND PUTTING IT SO CONCISE! I am so fed up with Christians sticking their heads in the sand and refusing to deal with reality, hoping to be “raptured out of all troubles.” WAKE UP and GROW UP CHURCH and BE ABOUT THE FATHER’S BUSINESS OF WINNING SOULS! It’s about time…
Amen, Amen. People sing Onward Christian Soldiers…and leave church to go home and put on house slippers. Others while shod nicely in Church actually walk through life with battered, bloody and scarred combat boots. Sometimes feeling really heavy..And while the rucksack of weaponry to keep CLOSE and carry constantly at times feels crushing and weighty is provided by the Lord who never burdens us with a load that together we can’t accomplish.
I used to believe in Pre-Trib rapture. For decades. Now I do not, although It would be if it was like that…Forensically reading….oh WOW.
The Tree of Liberty they say is watered with blood. I now believe we will bleed out and die for the Lord and Savior we believe in with every fiber of our being. Faith ain’t for the faint-hearted.
Time to Soldier up, think how nice a pre-rapture would BE (but don’t count on it ahead of other scripturally supported option.. Better soldier up Armed by the Lord, Commander in Chief, than put on snuggly slippers and kick back to Be A Scripture Sedated Soul with the Let Jesus and other Christians fight.
I agree that many things need to happen before the Lord’s return.
I believe that a few of the things you mentioned may have already happened. The Antichrist could already be in position and the Great Commission could be completed or nearly competed.
Your article on the big earthquakes coming soon, could bring an end to this country being the world power. This could release world war, famine, and pestilence. The others on the list could rapidly follow!
I believe Bob Jones was a prophet but there were things he said that have not come true.
The big issue is that we are going through the big trouble and we need to make ourselves ready to stand for Jesus!!
Thank you for your comments!
Prophecies recorded in the Bible thousands of years ago have not been fulfilled yet either, but that doesn’t make them untrue. I wish we would all apply that same standard to prophecies shared today. Like my friend Aaron Brickman told me, “Prophecy is like the rodeo. You have to hold on for more than 8 seconds.”
In addition to my previous post just now:
the beast of the sea and the land – having horns / heads and crowns are fallen entities who have had authority and still do in a meaure and restrained – under the Sovereign plan of God – that is why we see so much of warfare in the heavenlies and the earth.
But they are not receiving crowns…they are being sent to the lake of fire for eternity. There is no acknowledgement being given to anyone outside the will and prupose of God – especially not for the kindgom of darkness. All they get is from people/nations etc through deception and lies, which won’t be for long
cheers, in humble opinion
Paul
See my reply to your previous comment, explaining the crowns given to the antichrist.
I have a question regarding point !.
Why should the antichrit be given a crown. What for?
Why will the Lord do it. The Lord is only going to boot him out.
Crowns are given to his people who endure and run and finish the race.
The first seal is very much open… when we consider that white – is purity and clarity in all scripture. Not deception as been marketed for centuries
When we reconsider point 1 – in the above light, many things change and the timeframe is now/end times are here
My humble opinion
In Christ,
Paul
Not only will the antichrist be given a crown, but he will rule the global government with authority to act for forty-two months (Revelation 13:5). His first crown empowers him to rule over one nation, which is just the beginning of his rise to eventually ruling over the global government, economy, and religion, but his crown should not be confused with the eternal crowns given to God’s people.
The prophet Daniel called him a mighty king, skilled in occult practices, which means he hides his true intentions (Daniel 8:23). An example of this is the way he masquerades as a messiah, riding on a white horse, when in fact he is a deceiver, a false messiah (Revelation 6:1-2). We are warned about Satan’s schemes, presenting himself as an angel of light, deceiving the world into believing he is from God (2 Corinthians 11:14). We must be on guard against his schemes because things are not always what they appear to be.
I feel many others beside myself might suggest that Bob Jones is not the ultimate authority on the year of the LORD’s return. I would feel more comfortable with someone else–like Sadhu. But just observing things that are happening—even just since the eclipse—fires, horrendous hurricanes, horrible mass shootings—what’s next??? Forty plus more years? Are you serious. As someone on here noted—1948 Israel became a nation. Most in the church world have used that as a barometer where we are time-wise. Why would you stop doing that now? This nation is about to implode. That would certainly help set up the one- world government. Pre, Mid, or Post—things are happening like crazy. A west coast horrendous earthquake could take down our economy. Things are ominous all over the world—with N. Korea and Russia, and Iran. Maybe Mr. Jones really, really missed this one.
Bob Jones didn’t even mention the Lord’s return, so he didn’t set any dates for that, yet you accuse him of really, really missing it?
The events happening today in the U.S. might feel like the end of the world to those of us living here, but we are not the whole world. There is no room for a superpower nation like the U.S. in the global beast kingdom as described in Revelation 13, so our nation must first fall from our position as a world leader before those other prophecies can be fulfilled. Major shifts like that don’t happen overnight, but likely take years to unfold. We’re only now seeing the beginning of these things, which is why I pointed out in this post we still have a long way to go.
Regarding the rebirth of modern Israel, I agree it is an important fulfillment of prophecy. I don’t think anyone is dismissing that, but there are no scriptures telling us how many years pass between that event and the return of the Lord. Jesus never mentioned it in Matthew 24, as some have claimed, so it is not included in His prophecy about the generation who sees these things not all passing away before all are fulfilled (Matthew 24:34).
James
I am a frequent visitor here and I fear for what is about to befall mankind. Destruction is imminent and I mean really here already. How I wish you are in our discipleship class today and see the many visions and revelations pouring from the Lord warning us to stock up and food and water. We were even reminded of matches and kerosene. Today was bizarre, we were literally dismissed to go and prepare. Things are happening to the bride individually and in hidden groups. All off us have been driven from our churches. The revelations on how God sees the churches are very frightening. God help us.
Please Alozie, what country are you posting from? Your names sound Nigerian, so are they warning you in that country about the times we are living in? I am just curious because of all the negative news coming out from there and how the pastors there only preach about money and prosperity. Sorry I do not mean any disrespect. Thank you.
Dear Stella
I am in Lagos Nigeria. The Lords hidden church is everywhere even here in Nigeria. Yes many mega Pastors here are horrible, They are pillaging the sheep and the Lord is mad at them. They love money, titles and are corrupt. They even use voodoo and satanic powers to cast a spell on the sheep. They are in a serious competition to outdo one another…in building schools, hospitals, large swats of praying grounds etc.
It will take a mighty shaking from our Lord to scatter these wolves because their network and deceit is incredible. Without the Lord opening your eyes…your undone. A Pastor friend of mine once told me he cannot preach holiness now. When I asked why? He said,How can I pay my rent? They are all after money….May the Lord help us.
But they Lord has a hidden army, working out of sight. He is equipping us for the times ahead. We are under the Holy Spirit incubation. When we hatch, Satan will wail. We will destroy all his works during the great harvest. The in-gathering will occur during the coming famine when everything will be shaken. Almost everything that gives humans confidence will be taken away. Then the Holy Spirit’s Soldiers (us) will emerge with power to do war and reap souls.
Dear Alozie, I agree. I have felt the leading to prepare physically before I came to the Lord, and have strongly advised all the people I know the same. We are coming into incredibly difficult and chaotic times. Let us be close to the Lord, abide in Him and hold fast in our faith unto the end. May God bless you.
Let’s not forget Deagel.com shows US population at 324 million now but 54 million in 2025. That is an 83% population reduction in the next 7 years.
Good point. That might be part of the fulfillment of point #1 on my list of 15 things.
You most likely will never see this but…here we are. Just got documentation on the big picture and yes depopulation earth is beginning on a global, rather expedient scale such as we’ve never seen.
I dare say tho, God determines who lives and who dies and because these evil globalists wasn’t to rid the earth of all Christians…It can’t happen…not yet anyway! But, all I can say is…this should be very interesting!
I just had a dream last night after reading this post. George bush had become my colleague and he was revealing a lot of things to me i dont remember any of them but only one: he took 2 paper out of a full stack of papers and said we will have 2 more elections and leave the information for you here. I dont know if he meant 2 presedential elections or 2 congress and presedential though. I am at work now but i though it pretty much relates to this recent post so i felt the emergecy to post it asap. Shalom. Jesus help us to understand more through him but not men.
“We could avoid being misled by this foolishness just by reading the Bible.” ‘Nuff said, James.
The rapture and the return of the Lord are two different happenings.
What scriptures do you have to back that up? I haven’t been able to find any.
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/95845/watch-sanhedrin-performs-temple-blowing-shofars-silver-trumpets-jubilee/#/
in the article , they said “Speak to B’nei Yisrael thus: In the seventh month, on the first day of the month, you shall observe complete rest, a sacred occasion commemorated with loud blasts.” Leviticus 23:24 (The Israel Bible™)
Two types of shofars were blown: bent ram’s horns and straight ibex’s horns. (Elan Shecter)
Accompanied by an anointed priest and blowing two types of shofars (rams’ horns) along with silver trumpets in the Biblically prescribed manner, representatives of the nascent Sanhedrin gathered on the Mount of Olives on Thursday to count “the third year of the Jubilee cycle” in the most Biblically-accurate way possible.
anyone know , ??
the third year of the Jubilee cycle ?? do we have 3 consecutive jubilee years ?????
anyone know , ???? the third year of the Jubilee cycle ??
One thing I am seeing, there is a growing number of people that are caught up in dates for prophecies, but are forgetting about ones personal rapture (The day they die, and their vapor vanishes). I’ve learned if the Lord comes back ten years from now, or forty, first and foremost, I want to make sure I’m right with Him, if He calls my number, before His return.
I’ve also learned to pay attention to what season the world is in, thus living my life for Jesus like it could be my time to die, but planning my life for all the seasons leading up to Christ’s return.
I used to be overly fascinated by dates of prophecies, dreams, visions (not the rapture date setting, but other date setting time frames). I would act is though disaster is so imminent, I can’t do much for the Lord, because it seemed doing these things for God would take longer than we have here on Earth, scared to go all in for God. I was also more concerned with what God was speaking to other people, than what He was speaking to me.
But God! He told me to be obedient to Him, and get to work. He told to stop worrying so much about all these prophecies, instead do what I have commanded you to do. God wanted me to heed the warnings and receive the blessings in his true prophecies, dreams, and visions, but not let it consume my life to the point, where I seek out and refer to these prophecies, dreams, and visions over Him and His word first
God wanted me to be more focused on getting my House in order, and being obedient to Him. I know we know in part and prophecies in part, and it can be a puzzle, but if we hear God’s voice, be obedient to Him, and ready to spread the gospel the rest will work itself out, and we will see God’s promises fulfille to His believers. For those who are like I was, don’t be consumed about these things, God will take care of you, if you are obedient to Him.
Remember somebody thought they were going to wake up this morning and didn’t. They didn’t get to see many of the time frames of certain prophecies fulfilled. James is 100% correct, there are things that must be done, before the return of our Lord and savior, but I urge you to make sure your work He as called us to do is done, because you might not live to see His return.
God bless.
Great point Matt.
Matt,
Well said!
“God wanted me to be more focused on getting my House in order”. . . I have to smile because, for several months, I have been frantically sorting out and cleaning my home because I felt this urgency to get it my house in order. Then one day it dawned on me: get my SPIRITUAL house in order. 🙂 Thank you so much for your words because it is a confirmation to me. I have been somewhat upset at all the date setting because I have been fearful of the effect on the baby Christian and the unbelievers. There is so much prophesy to yet to be fulfilled that we don’t need date setting, we need focus! That focus must me on God.
Getting one’s house in order is key. I encourage all to do so.
Spot on, as always Matt.
Amen Matt. Another point to consider is that is doesn’t HAVE to be the “official tribulation period” to experience financial collapse or war. If the Lord is telling you to (physically and spiritually) prepare for either of those situations in order that you may be set up to bring others to safety as well, do so without being concerned that it has to line up with end time events. It doesn’t have to be part of the end time scenario for those things to take place.
Amen! One could lose their job in a booming economy, and go through a Job moment. One could be in war or under a oppressive regime like N. Korea. Many forget the tribulation hasn’t happened yet, and those Christians in N. Korea, Syria, Iran…etc are going through right now, more concerned about their own personal rapture, than the big rapture.
They want to make sure their house is in order, because they could be killed by persecution at any time, more quicker than those in other nations, such as America.
We don’t think of death as much in America, as other Christians in other oppressive nations do. We have a whole lot more freedom in this nation, compared those in oppressive nations. They only time death hits home, in this nation is when a: celebrity, close friend, or family member dies. Then we are ready to call the life insurance agency for quotes, and talk death.
Other oppressive countries they talk death all the time. Because their spouse/parent/child could walk out the door, as a Christian, with a higher probability of never being seen or heard from again. They could be dead and never find out. This is the reality of many martyrs. Their love ones leave out, and they speak to their family regularly this could be my last time.
Many in this nation can take a lesson from those oppressed, because when real tribulation hits this country, they will have taught their family to be prepared. Also, it will teach to have their spiritual house in order, even if they never see oppressive tribulation here in America.
Are you basing this pre or post tribulation?
Point 8 marks the end of the 42-month tribulation and beginning of the great tribulation.
Maybe I am not reading it properly, but the Bob Jones vision does not seem to fit with the book of Revelations. We read in there that the saints will be overcome by the beast. Unless the whole thing is symbolic, which I tend not to believe just yet but who knows.
This same question has come up repeatedly, but there is no conflict between what Bob Jones saw and what the Bible reveals. Just as Isaiah saw, deep darkness will cover the earth at the same time the light of God and glory of God arises on His people (Isaiah 60:1-5). The trouble will actually help refine and purify the Church into the spotless bride, ready for the Lord’s return (Ephesians 5:27).
Bob Jones was not promoting any doctrine, which is the mistake the Church has made too often. He was sharing what He believes God revealed to him.
Hi James,
I really enjoy Z3 news even though there are sometimes prophetic words
that are scary.
When I read your article this morning I just wanted to reply to also help you to
see and get an understanding for those that believe the Lords rapture is very close.
I long for His coming because I love Him so much and I just want to be with Him.
I have served the Lord for 46 years and my life has been very difficult to say the least. As I am sure most readers would say, as our lives are filled with trials and
tribulations. I think it is really showing a lack of understanding to say that the ones that are longing for the Lord to come now are just trying to escape hardships. Most of our lives are filled with hardships every day and have been for years and years. Who in their right mind would want to carry on living down
here on an earth full of sin, children being sexually abused, babies being cut up and body parts sold etc etc? Also, if we really love the Lord, would we not want
to be WITH Him rather than being in this sin sick world? Who wants to be separated from the Bridegroom for years and years and years. The bride, the
true bride, longs to be with the Bridegroom and the Bridegroom longs to be with
the bride. Why would He make the waiting longer and longer? He also said
we must be LONGING, WATCHING AND WAITING. It only discourages me
when I read articles that say we are still going to wait for another 20-60 years.
So many people have sent in articles about Obama being the antichrist. I cannot see that he could possibly be the antichrist if we are still going to wait 20-60 years. He is on the scene now so I do not know how you can explain that away.
I am not meaning to be unkind to you at all. thank you for all your wonderful
articles in that past, but I really cannot agree with you about this article.
HE IS COMING VERY SOON!
I did not say everyone looking for the rapture is misguided, I simply pointed out one of the reasons why false teachings about the rapture are so popular is because they say what we all want to hear, all our troubles will instantly be gone. We must be able to prove it from the scriptures, not just believe it because it sounds good.
Regarding Obama, as I pointed out he would turn 99 in 2060, which is old, but surely not impossible. It is only 43 years away, not 60 years.
Dear James, Perhaps the teaching about the restoration of all things is how Bob Jones prophecy fits in with this discussion. When Rick Joyner was
considering building a physical building at Morning Star the Lord Jesus admonished him to build it so that it would last a thousand years. I appreciate that you require Scripture to be the foundation in these discussions. Blessings
Good point Michael.
Bible says people will seek death, but it will elude them. Makes me think extended life will be given maybe in the mark….that would mean age makes no difference. I’ll save my opinion on the timeline bc you’ve already gotten an ear full haha. I pray protection to both your heart and your time as both are very valuable
Sir, for some strange and unknown reason you did not list the biggest reason of all. The Church has to go through the 7 year Tribulation Period. Jesus plainly states in Matt.24.29-31 that He is coming back for His Church (The Rapture) AFTER THE TRIBULATION PERIOD!!! If anybody is interested in reading a good book on this subject, please read The Rapture Verdict by Michael Snyder. Your welcome.
I covered that in point 8, which stated: “The antichrist must pretend to honor the seven-year covenant for the first three and a half years when he ultimately violates it.” (Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15)
That event is called “the abomination that brings desolation” (Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15) and it marks the end of the 42-month tribulation, so the rapture can after that event, based on the scripture you referenced (Matthew 24:29-31).
The Bible identifies the length of the tribulation period is 42-months, not seven years (Revelation 13:5). After the tribulation comes the great tribulation when the wrath of God is poured out, but I believe the Church is raptured during the great tribulation (Revelation 7:14).
James, dear brother…man did you open a can of worms! Agggghhhh!
Is a distinction being made on whether we are talking about the rapture vs. the physical return of Jesus Christ? …..when Jesus actual sets His foot on the mount of Olives?
Great word James! I rejected this for a long time but thankfully the lord has shown me that we will be tried and purified befor being called home. If we have not been taken in some way prior to the rapture. But I’m no longer looking to taken out.
Sometimes those traditional teachings are hard to give up. It was a process the lord had to take me through.
But if we ask with a heart that seeks his truth he is gracious to give us those insights.
Thank you for this word!
Blessings to all !
I don’t believe there is much time at all. We are on the verge of the tribulation I believe. What does the tribulation begin with, the first four seals involve economic collapse and a great war. I see this happening before the rise of the new world satanic order and satan’s kingdom.
Look at the world and see the many signs of economic collapse and war. The world economy will only last a certain amount of time, we are running out of time, world debt levels are at extreme levels, there was no recovery, just more world debt added to most all countries, increasing their debt obligations and eventually there will be defaults. Economic collapse is certain and is coming, and it is coming soon, not in 50 or 60 years.
I believe this will coincide shortly with the war that will happen. If you look at the media, the signs that have been poured out in the world and by our brothers and sisters in Christ, the signs of war are all around us. Any war/strike on North Korea would likely result in war with Russia and China. In any case, whatever starts this war, I don’t believe it is far away. Then we have the blood moons, the Revelation 12 sign, the signs in the sky, earth, eclipses, animal deaths, abnormal weather, increase in wickedness and perversion, emergence of satanism into the open, censoring of the truth, persecution of Christian’s increasing, preparation of the new world satanic religion (all faiths into one without Jesus Christ as the Saviour), among MANY MANY OTHER SIGNS. We are in the last days, we are in the end days. I believe this absolutely.
A great war and collapse of the economy would result in hyperinflation and famine and death around the world, as we are warned in the Word.
Before I was saved in 2016 I wrote several articles warning of the coming economic collapse, and sharing these with my family and friends. Just this alone is tribulation, this will be unlike anything we have seen in modern times.
I see the RFID chip paraded around the media and encouraged for people to take and use. The mark of the beast is ready to go! They are setting up prison camps. They are getting every body ready for a big attack, with all the talk of North Korea and nuclear strikes. I dreamed of a US city being hit by a nuclear weapon. I dreamed of Russia and Asian troops invading and conquering the US.
I don’t believe any of this is far away.
In terms of the timeline of fulfillment, Jesus says if He didn’t shorten the days no flesh would survive, this is the greatest tribulation the world has ever seen. Once things really begin, and God’s judgment is poured out, things will happen very quickly!
Whenever this war and economic collapse begins, we know we are in the tribulation. It may take some time before the antichrist beast comes to power and open rulership over the world and being worshiped, I don’t know, but we know he reigns for 3.5 years before Christ returns at the end of the tribulation.
Now in relation to the rapture, I used to believe in a post-tribulation rapture only (Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27), however, I believe in a pre or early rapture and a mid-tribulation rapture. The pre/early tribulation is a rapture of those accounted worthy to escape (Luke 21:36, Rev 3:8-10) which could be a hiding in the wilderness (I had a dream about this) or a rapture to heaven, and all the rest will go through the tribulation, many purifying their robes and garments in the blood of the Lamb and being taken in the mid-trib rapture (see Revelation 7:9-14). The final rapture is the gathering of those who remain when Christ returns to rule and reign.
Consider that how can there be the marriage supper before Christ returns in Rev 19 if there is only a post-trib rapture. Also, we can know the timing of the Lord’s final return to rule since the beast rules for 3.5 years and is destroyed by the Jesus’ coming. The Lord tells us in Matthew 26:42-44 He comes at a time we do not expect, and that if the master of the house knew what time the thief would come he would be watching. Also the Lord returns with His saints (1 Thessalonians 3:13) in Rev 19, so they must already be with Him? In any case, I do not believe all will be taken in a pre-tribulation rapture. But I don’t believe you can say there is no chance of a pre or early trib rapture happening. Also I believe in mid and post trib. I believe the Lord is seeking to save as many and harvest as many souls into His kingdom as possible.
I believe the church, us who believe in Christ will be on the earth and working the harvest of souls and doing the Lord’s will. I believe many will be martyred, many will fall away from the faith, and many will do the purposes the Lord calls them to do. I still believe for those reasons in several raptures (harvests).
But I prepare myself with the seriousness of the Word and what it warns is coming, famine, war, death, persecution, tribulation, mark of the beast. I am preparing myself to face death and to not deny Jesus’ name, and to refuse the mark of the beast. I had the same concerns in the past that the church is not ready for tribulation because they have been taught they will all escape. I don’t believe this is true, only those worthy will escape (Luke 21:36) and who have kept the Word of Jesus, have not denied His name and kept His command to persevere (Rev 3:8-10), this is not all Christians (Matthew 7:21-23). I don’t presume to call myself worthy, but I have set my focus to do the Lord’s will wherever I am, taken or not, and seek to save the souls of those in darkness and do the Lord’s will (I hope to) unto my death.
I don’t believe we have long left. In fact I believe tribulation will soon be upon us.
You are welcome to disagree, may God bless you my brothers and sisters. Let us hold fast in our Lord and God Jesus Christ, who is one with God the Father and the Holy Spirit. When these things begin, and we can no longer communicate in these ways, remember the Lord is your strength and your everything, be close to Him and seek Him always, obey His commands and His voice! Praise the Lord, He is coming soon!
I’ll add that I did a video on preparing for the tribulation, whatever your rapture position, if you are interested. I believe these times will soon be upon us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqSzxuqSerw&t=25s The peace of the Lord be with you. Christopher.
Interesting “calm before the storm” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awor60zz5wo
Brother, regarding the the prophetic timing, I believe all the prophecy timing from Terry, David Wilkerson, Church Young Brandt etc not really accurate already as Jesus mention He already shorten the days and the hours. The major events is still occur but not according to sequence of the prophecy. If we ares still 20-30 more years, why Jesus tell many that His coming sooner than we expected???
Christopher, I couldn’t agree more! You have the right heart and attitude, we must prepare ourselves in our heart for any hardships and persecutions that might come, even to die for our Lord, even if we believe, as I do too, that the Lord will come for his Bride before His wrath is poured out on the earth. And to continually work in His vineyard while we are waiting for our blessed hope, the joining with Him for eternity. I hope and pray to be accounted worthy to escape all things that are going to befall the world, but if I am not, I am still going to pursue Him and not deny His name, even if it means death, by the strength of His might.
God bless you and everyone who takes 1 Peter 1:13 to heart:
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
As I sat and read this my heart which belongs to Jesus let me know that our time is up and the tribulation period is beginning shortly. We have the volenteering of many around the world taken the chip(dann their selves for easy pleasure). We see the fall of Babylon right before our eyes. We see even now Jesus name is no longer allowed anywhere. Jeremiah 51 is upon us sooner then we think. In a 100 years the world will be no humans here. We are truly forgetting the mysteries that danial had to seal up. Their now coming to light. I just can’t lead myself to look at dates setters. Jesus said if he didn’t shorten time there wouldn’t be any flesh left. Think about that.. Just pray and be watchful as Jesus said. Find your selves and your family worthy of is mercy and grace and protection for men hearts will fail them from things that will come UPON the earth (giants, fallen angels, nibru Satan’s army will literally walk the earth while we are still here)
Please tell me if our Lord was wrong when He said that the generation that saw the return of Israel to the promised land will not pass until all things concerning Mathew 24 is accomplished. He even said that heaven and earth will pass away but His word will never pass away.
So who’s vision is setting our tone now?
Is it because the rapture has not happened so we dust up this vision?
This posted vision will create foolish virgins and their mistake is….The Lord is delayed.
The Lord cannot be deceitful by giving us various dreams/visions/messages of being ready of His imminent return. Are w all wrong? Though some are, but are we all wrong? I do not believe the 2060 date setting.
The Lord was not wrong because He never said what you quoted Him as saying. I believe the rebirth of the nation of Israel is an important prophetic marker, confirming we are close to the return of the Lord, but it is just one of the signs among many others and is not even mentioned in Matthew 24. So when Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place” (Matthew 24:34), He was not referring to the rebirth of Israel because it was not included in the events He listed in Matthew 24:1-33.
I thought Sadhu said Pope Francis was the false prophet and that those with little babies would not get to see them to grow up and get married etc because the time was too short. That made me think the tribulation couldnt be much past the 2030s. Sadhu has been accurate so far with his prophesy about Trump and Houston etc. Possibly that gets us to the 2040s? Also, if Obama is the Antichrist, Ken Peters and others saw the Antichrist as a younger man who was handsome not a very old man.
I agree, it seems unlikely Pope Francis could be the false prophet if the Lord does not return until 2060 because Pope Francis would be 123 years old. So either Pope Francis is not the one or the Lord is coming sooner than that.
Regarding Ken Peters vision, he did not mention anything about the antichrist looking young, but he did say he was attractive. I believe the physical attraction he saw symbolized his supernatural attraction which will mesmerize the world. I don’t think it was meant to be taken literally.
2067? way too long, kids are being raped opin pedophilia scandals by people in high places, reptilians are inhabiting bodies in high places, weather modification is happening which is kickstarting Agenda 21 depopulation plan in hurricane desolated places, church systems have occultic deception and worldly practices, etc. Branahans prophecy does not ring true for me. We more likely have about 2 years until the rapture. Antichrist will ve revealed sooner than later. Mark of the Beast is already out with 10k people already taken it around the world. Fallen Angels are making Youtube channels introducing themselves. The list goes on and on.
I wrote this list of 15 things that must happen before the Lord returns to show how unlikely it is to happen in a short time. As I stated in this post, many people don’t base their views on the Bible, which is why Christians keep setting dates for the rapture every year and the world keeps laughing at our foolishness.
By the great grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, In May 2014, He showed me in a vision the third temple in Jerusalem. In a separate dream he showed me that He is the one who will give the Jews the blueprints ( I was a discussion with JPJ). Over one year later in July of 2015, the Temple Institute for the first time ever (in history) released designs of the third temple. It is exactly what I was shown in 2014. In the video what I saw is at the 21-23 sec mark.
https://youtu.be/A2IkxmwkayM
We have many souls to save for the Kingdom of God. For this gospel of the Kingdom of God will be preached in all the earth , then the end will come. When you see the foundations of the third temple being laid it is a sign post that we are in the last of the last days ( less than 7 years). Look up to the Lord Jesus Christ for our redemption draws nigh. I have heard 2025-2029. No one knows the day or hour, but the third temple is the final clock.
Rev 11:1-2..I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.
Shalom
*I was having a discussion with JPJ
Hi Phanuel,
Dr. Robert Mawire suggested that 2026 will be the year – https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xgN0t4x67K0
Best,
Ming
If the Lord would tarry till the 2060’s and longer would be good news for me. I have wasted so many years not being able to walk with Him in the degree I wanted to so now that would give me more time to be intimate and learn his ways.
And there is so much more to consider, to take my eyes of the world and be totally Kingdom minded – to walk by faith not sight, to do the things that stores up treasures for me in heaven, to be able to hear His voice continually, to do the greater things.
I could go on and on…
Thank God that there seems to be time to be become part of a bride that is without spot or wrinkel, cause I am sure far from that and I dont see Church there either…
Perhaps a good time to re-read;
◄ 2 Peter 3 ►
Berean Study Bible
The Coming Judgment
(Genesis 3:1-7; Genesis 7:1-5; Romans 5:12-21)
1Beloved, this is now my second letter to you. Both of them are reminders to stir you to wholesome thinking 2by recalling what was foretold by the holy prophets and commanded by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.
3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4“Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “Ever since our fathers fell asleep, everything continues as it has from the beginning of creation.”
5But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6through whicha the world of that time perished in the flood. 7And by that same word, the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
The Day of the Lord
(Zephaniah 1:7-18; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11)
8Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some understand slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be dissolved in the fire, and the earth and its works will not be found.b
11Since everything will be dissolved in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness 12as you anticipate and hasten the coming of the day of God, when the heavens will be dissolved by fire and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with God’s promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.
Final Exhortations
14Therefore, beloved, as you anticipate these things, make every effort to be found at peace with Him, without spot or blemish.
15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters,c speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort,d as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard not to be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.
Amen.
The next Pope will be the false prophet..
I know this is off topic. I have been sidelined by rejection for years. It is so refreshing to come out and see for real what I missed and how I now can start back up fully following the Lord, not my feelings or my wounds leading me. I continually am reminded not to fight my battles in the flesh, which is what I have done for years,
“The voice of rejection can camouflage itself as discernment to bring accusation against covenant Alignments! It will play off feelings of rejection & pain—loosing accusation disguised as discernment. It’s a destiny killer.
Unresolved hurts & emotional trauma can create a toxic wedge that aborts valuable relationships & kingdom alignments. It is critical that healing is applied & deliverance ministered.”
Ryan LeStrange
— I am reading this book:Returning to Holiness Paperback by Gregory R. Frizzell. It has excellent probing questions to get us on track.
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/95052/top-10-end-days-stories-5777-show-messiah-way/#/
Top 10 End-of-Days Stories of 5777 Show Messiah Is on His Way
https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/56247-40-year-old-david-wilkerson-prophecy-being-fulfilled-right-in-front-of-our-eyes
In a way saying it won’t happen for another 40 years is date setting. If others feel that were in the season. Who is anybody to judge! And no I don’t agree when people set actual dates. But you also can’t say it’s another 40 years.
Another thing, I don’t feel powerless and frightned, my life is not on hold. I’m just tired of all the sin in the world! Yes, I do want to escape. I long for Jesus to return, daily. This world is awful. Yes it gives me peace to know that Jesus will return soon. I can’t wait.
I think you have a point, and a good one at that. There must be a good reason that God does not want us to set dates.
Thank you.
Jesus told us we would be able to recognize the season of His return just like knowing summer is near when we see leaves budding on a fig tree (Matthew 24:32). So we are encouraged and expected to recognize the season, but in the same passage, He said we would not know the exact day or hour (Matthew 24:36). So there’s a big difference between those who set specific dates for the Lord’s return versus the general timeframe Bob Jones shared. One is unscriptural while the other is right in line with what Jesus told us to do.
I’m glad you’re holding onto the hope of His return. That’s a great promise for all of us to believe and look forward to seeing. My only point was let’s not throw out the rest of the Bible in the meantime.
James, I agree with all these 15 major events before the return of Christ.
My take on Bob Jones’ prophesy, of the 2020’s revealing the rest of God, is that these are the years that a multitude of Christian martyrs will enter the heavenly rest, and maybe even when the return of Christ occurs to begin the Millennial Kingdom. In part, I take this approach because Terry Bennett’s revelation had a religious leader present a governmental leader as god, when in reality he is the Antichrist, then millions of Christians who resist will be murdered, and this time period will be within the 7 years from 2022 to 2028.
My guess is that 2025 is when the Antichrist enters the temple to falsely proclaim that he is God and this is the time to flee to the mountains for those in Judea (Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15,16, and II Thessalonians 2:3,4). This great tribulation period, when the Antichrist has full Satanic power over the world and the saints, and the two witnesses are preaching in Jerusalem, will last “a time, times, and half a time”/”42 months”/”1260 days” (Daniel 7:25-27, Revelation 13:5-7, Revelation 12:6,17, and Revelation 11:2,3). If I remember correctly, I did see, in a youtube clip, Sadhu Salvaraj say that the two witnesses appear during this period of tribulation. Then immediately after this great tribulation, Christ appears in the clouds and the Rapture occurs (Matthew 24:29-31).
I could also think the possibility that 2028 is when the Antichrist enters the temple and the 42 months end in 2032. So Bob Jones’ 2030’s to 2060 of the revealing of the family of God, Kingdom of God, and sons of God, occur during the Millennial Kingdom.
Thanks marcio
Your time frame lines up with my thinking. We are the last generation so I do believe 2060 is too far in the future.
Return of Christ after 7 years of tribulation approx 2032 to 2036. Thanks ? James another top effort. God bless your work, Phil
I agree that the return of Christ is very soon after the 7 years of tribulation (7 year covenant), the last 7 years of Daniel’s 70 week prophecy:
“Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.”
Daniel 9:24 NKJV
we are at year 5986 , there are 14 year until 6000. so 2030-2033 is correct
compare with Terry Bennett 2028, Neville Johnson – 2030 , it is very close
Hi I’ve enjoyed the posts on here because it gives insight into how to pray. Here’s another prophetic study on a biblical prophecy that must be fulfilled before Jesus Christs return. It’s of 7 shepherds and 8 leaders who will lead Israel in war over the Gohlen Heights. You can read the link below. There must be 3 more wars over the Gohlen Heights before Jesus the Messiah’s return.
http://biblefacts.org/pdf/seven_shepherds.pdf
This seems incongruent with Pope Francis being the false prophet. If he actually is the false prophet who introduces the beast, then the timeline mentioned here is off. However, if the timeline is correct then it seems likely that Pope Francis is not the False Prophet. Don’t think both can work.
I agree. It seems unlikely both are true.
Dr. Tom Horn has some interesting insights based on his research indicating that Pope Francis wasn’t canonically (sp) elected and is just a “placeholder.” The final Pope will step in (Petraus Romaneous), be the actual 112th Pope fulfilling the Malachai Martin prophesy. The top candidate for this position (he believes) is only 62 or 63 while Pope Francis is 80. Blessings.
How does the 2060 year align with the Terry Bennett Angel Gabriel prophecy going to the 2020s and the 1 generation (70-80) years… since Israel became a nation in 1948? Also, how can we reach 2060 if this pope or the next is the final one aka false prophet and Obama is the Antichrist?
The only part that doesn’t fit with 2060 is Pope Francis being the false prophet. At 80 years old, he would have to live to 123, which is too hard to believe. Obama would turn 99 in 2060, so that could work. Terry Bennett’s timeline doesn’t tell what happens after 2028. That might be just the beginning of about 30 years of setting up the beast kingdom.
Reading this prophecy I can’t help but wonder about something. All of this is a process that has been ongoing since the beginning. Maybe Christ setting up His Kingdom after He returns is also going to entail a process. Take starting a business for example. The work isn’t done once you have the doors open so to speak. It’s actually just started. I can imagine once the King has returned, there is going to be a lot of work yet to do in regards to His Kingdom. I am by no means a Biblical Scholar or expert (I’m still learning) so this is just some food for thought and nothing more. Considering what Bob Jones said at the end of the prophecy I find it very interesting that the nwo went from Agenda21 to Agenda2030. Mr. Jones said, ” We know in the last days, some of these, that if you take their life, they have the power to raise it up again. I was seeing that kind of resurrection power in the Church in the last days. I don’t know when it will begin, but I really felt that it will begin in the 2030s.”
Great point Robert. Bob Jones might have been seeing beyond the end of this age and into the first 30 years of the next age.
Terry Bennet is saying we will see AC by 2028.
Period Three – The Rise of a One-World Religion
The final phase revealed to Terry occurs in 2022-2028. The predominant part of the governmental troubles will be in preparation for, particularly in Europe, the arising of the spirit of antichrist. What is coming is called the new world order, but behind that is the spirit of antichrist and the false prophet spirit with that. With that is coming a one-world religion.
Terry explained, “I was told it would be a combination of three world religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all brought together into a one-world religion. Those three would be combined as a compromise, a mixture. Each of those three religions believes in one god whereas other religions have many gods. The one-world religion will be presented as a solution that will bring peace, when in reality it will be a compromise and a mixture offered by Satan to turn the world away from the absoluteness that there is no other name under heaven whereby men can be saved than the name of Jesus Christ. Anybody who refuses to accept the new one-world religion will be labeled as a radical terrorist and a threat to world peace. As it goes forward it will move to murder. It will be declared by a religious leader in Europe that this person whom they will receive as their governmental leader is god, when in reality it is the antichrist”
I agree with what Terry Bennett saw because the beast kingdom must arise before the Lord returns, but Terry did not mention anything about the rapture or the return of the Lord, so I think it’s a mistake to assume it happens immediately after the beast kingdom is established.
Thank you James for tour website and all you do…you and z3 readers are in my daily prayers….but unfortunately I don’t believe many Americans will be here till 2060 and the removal of God’s protection on our nation….Our nation is ungrateful to our God and we do deserve the judgement that will come upon us. Personally speaking I had to fall in order to be close to God I had to suffer before I repented and hunger to be with Christ. …unfortunately our nation has to go what I went through on a national level….the writing is on the wall Harvey irma Las Vegas burning of the western States earthquake in Mexico hurricane Nate the immigration of Muslims without being checked into our nation for some reason building the wall that trump wants is to late the wolves are in our country….a few months ago I read 500 propane tanks were stolen…..I have not heard a follow up for those propane tanks…..it is only a matter of time before the false economic belief in the almighty dollar collapses and the citizens of our nation will all be suffering. ….I am starting and learning to Praise God durinf the good and bad times and to depend on him to show me what way to go….Now is the time to be united with our maker now is the time to read the Bible…I am starting to memorize verses because one day I may not have a bible……
Thanks Phil. Glad to hear you are back on track with God.
The article doesn’t say that there won’t be judgement and suffering. On the contrary, if the church will be able to walk on the level of Christ by 2030, then the next 13 years must witness the greatest infliction of human suffering since the beginning of time. How else would the Church acquire such wonderworking power? The bible states that our spiritual muscle comes like any other sort of muscle–through the voluntary pain of training it. It’s easy to love those who love us, but Christ calls us to love our enemies. He calls us to love God and one another even in the midst of pain, suffering, even death. That is why the disciples couldn’t drive away the boy’s evil spirit–they lacked the muscle: “This kind cannot come out, except by prayer and fasting.” Jesus also taught them, “Truly, truly, I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a seed; but if it dies, it bears much fruit,” and, “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.”
In other words, we bring the Kingdom of God to earth (after the Lord’s prayer “your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven”) only through sweat, toil, and pain–through living a voluntarily crucified life. Glinda Lomax experiences tremendous spiritual growth through pain and suffering, as described in her “Wilderness Companion.” Of John the Baptist, who led a severely ascetic lifestyle in the desert, Jesus said, “Among those born of women there has risen no one greater.” As Christians, we are taught to welcome the pain and scorching heat of the wilderness, to voluntarily seek the fire of refinement, and to anticipate with joy the suffering our coming tribulation–because that is the only way we will ever rise to the level of spiritual authority described of the end-time church in Revelation’s and Bob’s (etc., etc.) prophecies.
Given the state of the church now, barely a decade before the rising up of this tremendously valiant army of God, only a lot of pain and judgement over the next 13 years will enable us to spiritually advance to the point described in Bob’s prophecies. Indeed, this would fall perfectly in line with many notable Christian prophecies featured here and elsewhere which warn of imminent judgement and dire suffering. I believe there will be two wars–besides the Battle of Armageddon, I believe there will be a WWI-time precursor war, which sets the stage for the rise of the antichrist, and which is due to befall us within this coming decade. The prophecies of America being reduced to ash and conquest are separate from the prophecies of the final apocalyptic war as described in Revelation, in which American doesn’t seem to feature, and I believe that America will suffer this judgement during this (imminent!) pre-antichrist war. Matthew 24 and Revelation describes several tribulations as preceding the Great and final Tribulation, including plagues, famine, wars, natural disasters, and the death of at least 1/4th of the world’s population (almost 2 billion people), etc.
Moreover, it doesn’t take a prophet anymore to see, very clearly, that the entire world is on the brink of a period of severe trouble, violent chaos, and massive extermination of life. It has already started. There are those in the world who languish in bed, trying not to hear the crowing rooster, but the day of judgement has already dawned. All will be roused to the dreadful day soon enough but it will be better for those who are already awake and dressed for battle.
Anastasia: Very true. There is one way that the Church can avoid the judgment of God. “If we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged”. This doesn’t mean simply acknowledging our sins, but of bringing our bodies under subjection to the Spirit. Either we can do it with fasting, or God will do it for us. And the scourging of God is something terrible! Most of Gods people will go by way of the grave, unfortunately.
Phil Titus… amen brother! Folks always say God postponing judgment is a good thing, as it gives people more time to repent. Well, they won’t (in my opinion) for the very reasons you stated. People will only regard God when they are in deep troubles, such is who we are. Scripture tells us when God’s judgments are in the earth, the people learn righteousness.
Yes, to be thankful in all things is truly the will of God. In Christ we will never ever have a bad day again, if we understand Romans 8:28 in the depth of our spirit. ALL things, even shipwreck will work together for our good – because we have Abba for our Father! Who can be against us?
Well the Lord Jesus actually told us to WATCH always! And to expect Him at ANY moment..which is what myself and many others are doing. I would be very careful with advertising that there is plenty of time…the enemy seems to capitalize on those very thoughts, which lead many into lukewarm relationships and lives with the Lord Jesus. The Lord told us to be careful of what we say because we will be held accountable for any person who is led astray by our words…I think it would be MUCH more beneficial to urge people to be ready NOW and ALWAYS for the imminent return of our Lord Jesus Christ/Yeshua HaMashiach rather than disregard all of Yahweh’s signs on earth, in the sky and the messages He has been giving through His children right now. Also, I think it was very presumptuous of you to assume that ‘we’ view the Rapture as a “bail out from troubles of our lives” when I think our brother Titus best describes it, that we are “13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.” (Titus 2:13-15).
We should always be doing the Lord’s work, whatever that is (because we all walk a different path which He directs us on) but we should NEVER assume that we have a plethora of time because like you stated, Yahweh/ The Great I AM, Adonai/The Creator of the Heaven’s and Earth/The God of Abraham, Isaac, And Jacob is on His own timetable and who are we to assume that He cannot show up tonight? Tomorrow? A few months from now? A few years from now? I understand you believe not everything in the Bible has been fulfilled just yet, but that is just your opinion, not a fact. Please be cautious.
Side Note: I have never set a date but for me dates have helped me look forward to something, even if the date came and went, it still strengthened me and my relationship with the Lord. We should count our trials as blessing, no? And we should never put another sister or brother down (I am talking about Christians, people that believe they are being led by the Lord and are genuinely trying to help and prepare people for His appearing) not even for setting a date, much less say that the ridicule they received was “well deserved”. We should be going to the Lord and praying for these people. Showing compassion and love is crucial in these ever increasing dark days…you should be trying to spread God’s light, not add to the darkness. In any regard, this is my humble opinion, be ready NOW and treat others the way Christ Jesus treated them.
Matthew 24:9-13
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 12:33-37
33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Ezekiel 33:1-25 (KJV)
33 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:
3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.
7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
10 Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live?
11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.
13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.
17 Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal.
18 When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.
19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.
Isabella , actually you’re over looking many passages. To say its James opinion that things written in bible haven’t transpired yet is both incredibly naive & wrong. Its laid out very clear for eyes that want to see. !!
I feel like we should be ready and have our houses in order regardless of our stance on pre-trib, mid-trib, or post trib simply because people die, it’s a fact, and for many there’s just no escaping that.
Totally right one sister. For we must respect the different stances many people hold on the timing of the rapture. Part of having our houses in order is being always ready to share the gospel “the hope” we have within. Soul winning has gone out, and been replaced by the self help gospel it appears.I believe in “self improvement” but not total self focused teaching which has invaded the churches. It seems we all have become “experts” in a lot of christian psychological techniques and tactics. Meanwhile the lost are perishing.
Believe it or not, there is no reason for a Christian to die. I know that the scripture says: “it is appointed unto man once to die”, but if “our old man is crucified with him”, then that is fulfilled. Christians have eternal life – a life that cannot die. It is only sin that kills a person. “Therefore brethren, if you live after the flesh, ye shall die. But if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.”.
Very well put Isabelle. Excellent.
Amen! You should be writing articles! Jesus is coming soon and now is not a time to sleep, but be ready and always looking up. Jesus will come back for those who are in the light, but He will come back as a thief in the night for those who just want to eat, drink and be merry (Matthew 24:37-45)….Moses was given 7 days notice before the storm, God told Him before hand when the flood would happen. It is REALLY important to not reject God’s prophets and watchers at this very time. We ARE in the season and right now the wise virgins eagerly await the king. Don’t fall asleep and just assume that “oh, I got more time”…stay awake! Jesus loves you, be blessed brothers and sisters. The plane is about to take off, don’t miss your flight….it leaves at midnight, at the twinkling of an eye.??
Megs: Have you ever considered that the parable of the ten virgins is only talking about Christians? Five were wise and five were foolish. Nowhere in the Bible are the children of the world referred to as “virgins”. Most Christians today don’t even know what the “door” is, much less how to open it unto the Lord. When Jesus said “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any man will hear my voice and open the door, I will come into him and sup with him”, he was speaking to the Church. The backslidden Church!
I am well aware that they are Christians, with the Holy Spirit. Thanks for looking out???
Where I live, I don’t know anyone who claims to be Christian that is aware that the five foolish virgins are Christians! It is good to know that there are others, like yourself, that know this is so.
Alan, I have started a poll of asking people to write out a statement on what they believe various phrases mean. You may want to try that out with those you are talking to. I got a 3×5 notepad and wrote out a word on the back for them to define or explain. It sure has taken me by surprise to realize that of the 20 people so far that have written out statements to define these four word phrases, I have 20 different definitions and 20 different understandings of those 4 words. The words I chose were, ‘love’ , ‘absolute freedom’ , ‘creature comforts’ , and ‘marijuana’.
It was not something I expected to find with such non-agreement between what the word means and how to explain it so another can understand it. Many were professed christians, and others just acquaintances.
I wonder what the z3 family here would define it as and if there would be more agreement in defining a word or understanding what that word means????
If anyone would like to answer those for me in a short one sentence – to – one paragraph and send it to me at yhwhekklesia@gmail.com I will include your results with the rest in my book once it gets published. Thank you guys on here. You are all seeking and searching for Him and that is the ‘mark’ of the saints sealed in their foreheads.
Hi mate. Just wondering why you think our mate Titus was rerering to a rapture and not the physical return to earth of Jesus when he mentions the blessed hope. Thanks.
The rapture and the physical return of Jesus are simultaneous events
But that would be like me living on the opposite side of the street to Jesus and He calls me over to His house and as I get to His front door He comes out and walks me bsck over to my house.
That is exactly right But the scripture says that “ we shall be changed” and we shall be like him
After examining the list…….It’s clear that many of those things are a result of the other and can happen within a short period of time. Even the building of the Temple will not take that long, for they have the blueprint and materials prepared in readiness with modern cranes and technology. The rapid succession of the list can easily happen in near time of seven to ten years. In my view, by 2060 the Millennial Reign will have already been in place for a good many years.
around 2030 – 2033 , Jesus ‘s second coming
our are in the 6986 , there is 14 years to 7000
I believe you are right. Jesus was resurrected most likely in either 29 or 33AD, and that was at 4000 AD. Therefore His return is somewhere between 2029 and 2033. If 2033, then the Rapture happens before the last 3 and a half years (great tribulation – wrath of God), which is Feast of Trumpets 2027, plus or minus a few years.
Oops- I meant 4000 years from the beginning of man.
I mean 5986 . 14 years to 6000
Does it have to be an actual temple mate. They can just wack a tent up in minutes like they did in the desert with a holy of holies and all that. Although I have heard unconfirmed reports that they have the stones cut in Haifa and all the utensils ready. It will be a sad day when the Jews slaughter that first sacrifice.
The Scripture does say “sitteth in the Temple of God”, so it matters not to me if it’s a tent or a building. The first animal sacrifice will be sad indeed, but not for the animal, for in the Law, the Priests are not suppose to waste it, but to eat it……so the lamb, goat or ox will not be a victim. But it will be sad to see it because it will represent that the Natural Branch is still blinded to the true “once and for all” Blood atonement sacrifice of God’s dear Son……of which you know very well for yourself. And in regards to the Holy of Holies…….if indeed they locate and trot out the original Ark of the Covenant…the presence of God will not accompany it as He did the days before Jesus……So the term Holy of Holies will seem a little hollow………..Shalom mate.
Can you imagine what the response of the world will be when the Jews rebuild the temple and actually sacrifice an animal! The modern world will be horrified. “Such cruelty!” I wonder if that isn’t when the prophesy of Zech.14:2 won’t come to pass. “I will gather all nations against Jerusalem..”
Indeed mate. I only meant from the point if view that it doesnt matter how late in the daty it gets a tent can be erected much quicker than a stone construct. Personally I believe the Israelis gave the ark. Amen mate.
The building of the temple will happen 5-6 years before Jesus returns
“He is not returning for a frightened, powerless Church running for their lives, but a glorious Church without spot or wrinkle, holy and blameless” I think this statement operates from a false premise…….today’s remnant is probably the ones going in the rapture……and today’s remnant is not running for their lives, scared and powerless, we are bold and courageous…….other than that, I’m open for debate…..Pre-wrath or Pre, but never Post. It’s scripturally impossible for it to be post. The Matthew 24 believers are not the church, but the Natural Branch that endures the Tribulation as converts.
I appreciate this article James. I suppose when I have thought about the end times and the Church and considering the fifth seal in particular. There will pretty certainly be a massive persecution going on at the hands of the AC and the Mark system. Even now there is massive persecution. Those believers either run for their lives or they are murdered (and their defenseless children)
The Church is and will have to go underground and essentially be “on the run” to avoid getting swept up in the execution dragnet.
I think the Church can be without spot/wrinkle/holy/blameless while on the run for their lives from a Mark run world or even a precursor world that incriminates just being a Christian, which of course some countries have already experienced for decades.
In your article you mentioned that the power of the holy ones must be shattered. based on the scripture. Perhaps I am wrong to think this means the Church, but it seems that it means the Elect, the Church. If the Church’s power is shattered that is basically the definition of powerless, but stated more dramatically as “shattered”.
Again, I don’t know how long this state of shattered power goes on for the Church, maybe it is a short time, maybe it is longer as the ultimate test of faith and refinement, but it certainly speaks about it in Revelation. In the Revelation narrative it makes it quite clear that the Church is not able to prevail against the AC/FP…it requires Christ Himself, physically returning and doing direct battle against them and their armies…because of course if the Church was able to overthrow the AC/FP/Mark system we of course would. We would stop it from ever happening in the first place.
I also think about Christ talking about how the days will need to be shortened, for the Elect’s sake, or no flesh would survive.
Why would this be necessary if the Church/Elect is surging with power in the end days?
For me, it is difficult to square an end times powerful, dominating Church with these scriptures. Again, I am not saying that the Church will not be holy/blameless/without spot or wrinkle, but I don’t equate those traits with power.
The only explanation I have to reconcile what the Bible teaches on these things in the Gospels and Revelation are that the Church will indeed do greater things than Christ did, and will indeed be holy/blameless/without spot or wrinkle, but I see these things being fulfilled underground, in a subtle, behind the scenes way that is for the benefit of the Church in different circumstances
While the mainstream fake news of that time will be dominated by how great the one world system is and how the Mark made everything better…and the execution of those refusing the Mark and resisting the AC/FP system is just a necessity for the good of society to live in world peace and prosperity.
In some ways it reminds me of the confusion the Jews experienced at seeing Messiah come the first time as a servant instead of a warrior. I think the Church, like Christ will have this same servant ministry and walk until the end….understated, but amplified within the confines of the underground Church
The one place that I definitely see a powerful/dominating Church is when we ride to war, with Christ physically leading the raptured/resurrected saints in the last battle.
I keep coming back to Isaiah 60 because I think it’s the best description of where we’re going with increasing darkness and increasing light at the same time. The great shaking coming upon the world will help refine and purify the Church, making us become the glorious overcoming powerful Church, even in the midst of great trouble. So I don’t see any conflict with both happening at the same time.
I agree with your words about the church, Mem.
Regarding #13 on the list, the church has already been made spotless and radiant, as Ephesians 5:25 exhorts. It is finished. A done deal. Praise Jesus for his willing death on the cross.
Today’s church as an institution is sorely lacking and certainly not radiant. It’s heartbreaking. But God’s people, His remnant, those of us who are longing to be home with Him, are absolutely holy, blameless, radiant.
Also, a side point, I am not looking to escape anything that will come my way in these years before Jesus comes to take me home. However, just as the earth is groaning, I too am feeling my spirit groan and long for my heavenly home. In the meantime, whether that is 1 or 100 years, I will build his kingdom here.
Thanks for preparing this list…Personally I’d like to stick around long enough to realize some victory in my own life…to finally make it to a place where I’m overcoming sin and self centredness and actually living a genuine life based on actively loving others more than Im not…I need more time to begin building my retirement fund in heaven! …2060 sounds like a long way off for sure…but it wouldn’t be out of the question…the main thing is quality…I’ve wasted so many years on worthless pursuits…even a couple good years could net a huge return beyond my imagination…afterall look at what Jesus accomplished in a mere 3.5 years!!!
Robert M, you may want to check out some of the videos of Dan Mohler on Youtube. His teaching has been very instrumental in transforming my life into such an overcomer as you are desiring for yourself. Sometimes we just need a change of perspective, or to “see clearly” as Dan puts it. If your eye is single, your whole body is full of light.
Thanks James, this is a good reference for me at least because it is so easy to lose sight of the bigger picture and begin to focus on one or two signs. Trying to put that all together with what the Lord has said to me personally, provoking much thought and prayer. Which is always a good thing! I don’t know what others are experiencing, but I struggle with an impatience to see the fulfillment of both Bible prophecy and what God has shown me. But all these things come to pass in His time, not in ours. He is not impatient. Therefore I must not be. And yet, I pray come quickly Lord Jesus!
Amen !! I recall your article on the 10 things that must happen prior to rapture. Lately I think of it when I hear people say we’re in last hour. Thank you for such an in depth sypnosis & biblically sound one James. We are in the last days for sure, but much more needs to take place before. Going to go & study all this. ? Bless you , Jan
This does not fall in line with the presidential election of a woman who kills christains in 2020.
How can the 2060 timeline fit when they’re already implanting people under the skin with the chip in various places. It seems to me like Terry Bennett’s timeline is more accurate.
I agree with Terry Bennett’s timeline too, but he did not mention anything about the rapture or the return of the Lord.