In an interview yesterday with Greg Hunter’s USA Watchdog, David Stockman made a dire forecast for financial markets for the summer of 2017, as shown in the 26-minute video below. Mr. Stockman served as a Republican U.S. Representative from the state of Michigan and as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan.
He is expecting two key events on March 15 2017 are going to set in motion a major drop in financial markets by this summer. He estimated, “I expect the markets will easily correct by 20% and probably a lot more.”
1. Debt Ceiling Crisis:
First, the debt ceiling holiday which started in October 2015 expires, which will lock in the U.S. government’s debt at a limit of $20 trillion. By law, Congress will not be able to borrow any additional funds to cover spending. They will be limited to the monthly tax revenues, which is about $250 to $300 billion, but not enough to cover current spending levels. Mr. Stockman estimates the Treasury Department will run out of cash by this summer, which will cause what he calls “the mother of all debt ceiling crises.”
He expects when Wall Street realizes Congress is unable to cover their current spending commitments, it will shock investors and cause a sell-off.
Although Congress has raised the debt ceiling over 70 times in the past, Mr. Stockman believes they won’t be able to raise it this time because the current deal gives the President authority to allocate spending in the event that no new spending agreement is reached. That gives President Trump bargaining power his predecessors have not had, which increases the likelihood of a government shutdown.
He further predicts the debt ceiling crisis will derail President Trump’s plans to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, and provide an infrastructure stimulus. He expects that will negatively impact financial markets, causing the current bullish optimism to “dissipate very quickly.”
2. Fed Raising Interest Rates:
Second, Mr. Stockman says, “They are going to raise interest rates on March 15. They have to. I’m talking about the Fed.”
If the Fed raises rates on March 15, it would cause the dollar value to go up, which fits what I have been expecting to see, the dollar getting stronger until it suddenly gets devalued. Raising rates could also be the catalyst for a drop in precious metals prices, which fits the two steep legs down, which I shared in my previous post. I am expecting to see spot silver prices drop by over $4.00 per ounce from the current market price of $18.38.
Mr. Stockman added, “The S&P 500 has been trading at 26 times earnings while earnings have been dropping for the past six or seven quarters. There is no booming recovery coming. There is going to be a recession and there will be no stimulus baton to bail it out. That is the new fact that neither Trump nor the Wall Street gamblers remotely understand.”
Later in the interview, he added, “I think we are going to have a greater depression in the stock market than we have had since 1987 when it dropped 25% in one day.”
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Hello James and Z3 family…
I have actually heard differently from the Lord in regards to relying on “market experts” for the prediction of this market correction. The Lord began speaking to me about this market correction even before November last year when many thought FAZ was going to skyrocket in November. And according to what He has shared, the market crash will be more of a correction. Please take this to the Lord for confirmation. The Lord has shared with me many times that this market correction is not going to be able to be predicted by any market expert. That’s how unprecedented it will be. My humble suggestion is to go straight to the Lord. For we could never go wrong when we do.
Blessings to everyone at z3!
I believe we are talking about two different things here. There is a correction coming, which is the large V-shape I saw and posted late last year. Since it was a V-shape, it means it was a correction because the market bounces right back up again to form the second half of the V. However, God has also revealed a market crash coming, which is a separate event. That is when FAZ skyrockets and the dollar gets devalued suddenly. Even beyond that, He has revealed an even worse financial crash when the dollar becomes totally worthless. So there is a series of events coming in the years ahead, not just one event.
The event David Stockman discusses in this video is a market correction, which fits with what you and others have seen. He calls it a correction, but says it will be larger than others we have seen since 1987.
Good Morning James and Z3!
I humbly went to the Lord in regards to what you stated and this is what He shared:
“- Drastic change is coming that far exceeds a market correction. However, there will be a sudden market correction that analysts will not be able to predict.
– The gold standard will be back and the wicked federal reserve will be completely abolished. Mark My words – For my Word does not return to me void.
– The nation of the United States is currently being shaken and this has to happen, so that this nation starts honoring Me and not their gods of baal and mammon. But I AM not done with this nation. I have great plans! – A great revival and an amazing harvest of souls! The enemy plans have nothing on Me! For I AM many steps ahead from all of their schemes. No matter what you hear and see, trust in the promises the Lord has given you, for My kingdom is for those who endure until the end.”
Please seek the Lord for your personal confirmation on what I have heard.
Blessings!
That sounds right to me. Thanks for being bold to share what God puts in your heart.
wow James, that’s exactly what the Lord told me when I was hesitating about sharing it. He told me to be bold! Thanks for the confirmation. Glory to God.
Francy
Thanks for sharing this confirmation about the federal reserve and the gold backed currency. I was scolded a few times on Z3 for sharing the same several weeks ago. God bless.
shalom
Hi Phanuel, On December 25th and 29th you shared tha you saw
March 1 as a significant day associated with 2466. Do you think we go down from here? I really consider your words carefully.
Thank you Phanuel.
Hi Michael C
Let me answer it this way. The Lord was gracious in showing specific dates of prior downturns.
1. 6/24 Brexit Hangman 10 day count
2. 9/9 waterfall ( options dream)
3. 11/9 ( second hangman/ Cheshvan 8)
4. 12/28 downturn
However, the timing of this next downturn hasn’t been as clear. I haven’t received a specific count or specific date in a dream. That’s why I keep using the phrase ” I’m watching certain dates”. I see certain numbers and try to understand them. In regards to March 1st, I’m not sure on this date as I was for the other downturns. It is possible it may be a personal date. I shared I saw 301,017 and on Dec 25 I saw 2466 ( 66 days to March 1).
Shalom
Michael C
For confirmation ……
right after I finished responding to you … I saw BAC ( Bank of America) spot price at 24.66 … go figure 🙂
Shalom
Michael C
You see why I wasn’t sure of March 1? It’s a significant day but in the sense of breaking 21,000. The same thing happened on Jan 26 when we broke 2300 (20,000). Not sure why I’m being shown significant “bull run” days.
Shalom brother
Phanuel
Are you pulling out of FAZ today?
Hi Tim
I had to settle some bills so needed to liquidate some shares. I still own many FAZ shares as I haven’t given up.
Shalom
Phanuel
Thanks for your response. Every time I go to pull the trigger on my shares the Lord places a huge check on my heart. I am also hanging on but need a stronger ulcer medicine. HaHa His timing is perfect.
Tim, I also have no peace about selling FAZ now either. Blessings, Corrine
Hi Tim and Corrine
Several months ago (last year) I was planning to purchase several thousands of dollars worth of UVXY …. well that night I had a very dramatic dream. I saw UVXY dropping like a rock into the negative … it was a very ramatic dream. On the contrary, in regards to FAZ all I get is keep on, don’t give up, have faith, and be patient. With FAZ at $17 someone is going to make a huge profit when FAZ finally rises.
Shalom
*very dramatic ( please edit)
I’m buying FAZ at any price under $17
Phanuel, thanks for sharing. Blessings, Corrine
Phanuel, thanks for your response. I have a lot of FAZ shares too. I have peace, God will see us through! Amen brother. Blessings, Corrine
I’m holding too Tim. I put a little into HL (Hecla Mining, owned there share about 2 years ago and did well… fingers crossed).
Phanuel & Matt, Thanks for the update and support. I will continue to hold!
Blessings to you both!
PS…Please dear Jesus, bless us with a FAZ sky rocket:)
Dear Phanuel, Do you remember when you shared about
how you were released from a mortgage and the relief that
you felt? I have been in a similar situation with a piece of Subdivision land for a number of years. It has created a constant strain on my outlook/hope.
I may possibly know why you are being shown the numbers.
I hope you know how much I have been inspired by your walk with the Holy Spirit. On August 26 I had a dream about trading that was very simple. I would like to share it with you and you can help me decide if I should share it with Z3 family. Shalom brother
Sounds wonderful Michael C. I find your thoughtful insights very helpful. JB can share my email with you brother.
Shalom
2466 / 2400 hit 66 days after you recieved. Williams comment on the 301,017 I believe has merit. MM/DD,DD/MM Mar 1st – 1 July, the 2 high points with the V in the middle? Could the LORD have given you the high point (2400 at 66 days), left point of the V?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Religions/Numerics/torahk.html
Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy
TORH TORH YHWH HROT HROT
—> —> <— <—
Like the above hidden secret in the 1st 5 books…
301,017 Mar 1 – 1 July points to the bottom of the "V" ?
Mar 1 to 1 July 2017 is 122 days (Not including Saturday 1 July). 1 Kings 8:63
And Solomon offered a sacrifice of peace offerings, which he offered to the Lord, twenty-two thousand bulls and one hundred and twenty thousand sheep. So the king and all the children of Israel dedicated the house of the Lord.
The BULL gets Shot?
Also Ezra 2:27 The Captives who returned to Jerusalem
27 the men of Michmas, one hundred and twenty-two
Also Nehemiah 7:31 The Captives who returned to Jerusalem.
31 the men of Michmas, one hundred and twenty-two;
2:27 – 7:31 ??? (Feb 27 to July 31???) Sorry, speculation
Matt NZ
Very interesting you maybe on to something. Let’s see how we close. Last night I saw Barry Jenkins (a director) climbing a ladder. He is 37 years old …so I added 2363+37 = 2400. Yesterday’s close was 2363.
Shalom
March 15/16 is a significant period. Next to March 1 these are very important days.
Shalom
I see two possibilities
1. we stay in a range and head back up (around 2400ish) to retest the high before heading down in earnest March 15/16
2. We continue to head down slowly with the downturn picking up on March 15/16
3. The Dutch election is important on March 15.. I had a vision of the Dutch national team playing a soccer game and scoring a goal.
4. On 10/5/16. ..I had a vision of an 18 wheeler truck entering a highway in 162 days ( exit 162)….March 16.
Shalom
Phanuel,
If the now almost certain rate hike by Fed, doesn’t raise Dollar Index, it is down hill for Dollar.
Hi Joe!
I mentioned a few times last year that the next downturn is related to rising bond yields….bond yields are on the rise again. I saw the 10 yr at 2.718 last year. Will keep watching. Debt ceiling on March 15.
Shalom
10 yr at 2.6% —52 week high
10 yr treasury note..,,2.624% (52 week high).
Shalom
Hi, Phanuel. According to that vision of the soccer game, it looks like the Dutch will be electing someone who would like to leave the euro at some point. Also, if I’m not mistaken, 18 wheelers are usually bullish moves from JR’s book, so maybe the markets go down into the Fed meeting on Mar.15 and then possibly start a bullish retrace at some point on Mar. 16
Hi Jonathan,
1. the Dutch soccer dream reminded me of the English soccer dream before brexit. However, I received a lot more confirmation for brexit, compared to the Dutch election.
2. the 18 wheeler to me represents a good trade. A source of supernatural provision.
shalom
Option 1 may be playing out, so let’s keep an eye on this. TVix is having a reverse split March 16. The market usually doesn’t drop (significantly) prior to reverse splits. So the correction may not start until after March 16. I received a prophetic count down so expecting it.
Shalom
Phanuel ,
Can you share this prophetic count down you received? A few times, you talk out some exception or small chance of something —– and they all come out. So I am quite alert when you are saying some exception.
Hi William
All I can share for now are the following :
1. It’s a day count
2. End date hasn’t been shared on Z3
3. I received it a few days ago
Shalom!
greg mannarino calling stocks and gold and silver to go higher after fed announcement
Hi Phanuel, With the new countdown of 3/23 what do you think exit 162 means today? Thanks for you help!
Phanuel….”your”
Hi Michael C
The last time I saw 162 (saw it as 1.62) was on 7/18, and 162 days later was 12/27. Then the market dropped on 12/28. It seems to communicate a good time to enter a trade (going short). However, we have to watch the price action closely as I still think we retest 2400 before the downturn. Therefore, I would not enter a trade if we haven’t achieved that by tomorrow. The 10 day count Trumps anything I shared previously.
Shalom brother!!
Shalom Phanuel. Psalm 119:162
I rejoice in your word like one who discovers great treasure (or takes spoils).
Amein Jane Nz
Blessings
Shalom!!
Hi Phanuel
How do you read today’s market? You have two points to watch for:
1. market go up to retest 2400 ( S&P ) — not fulfill yet.
2. FAZ motorbike dream ( FAZ slowly going up ) — has not started yet.
Am I correct? Next significant date to watch is Mar 23.
Hi William
2390/2388 might have been the retest…..we will see tomorrow
FAZ motorcycle hasn’t started yet.
Shalom
Hi Phanuel
Are we expecting FAZ going up to 46.56 and exiting FAZ at 46.56 at the coming drop of the market? ( JR is talking about 100 point drop for S&P. )
Hi William
I think we have 2 more possibilities this drop and the next one. Not sure which one.
Shalom
Hi Phanuel!
This is not the first time the Lord shared this with me. My understanding is that it’s needed in order for this nation to be turned back into the Christian nation it was founded on. I know many people have heard destruction and condemnation with no chance of forgiveness, but I have always heard differently. I believe the Lord has great plans for this nation and those plans could be simultaneously happening with the judgment for the unbelievers. Our God is a very merciful God and we should never limit Him, His plans, ways and thoughts are higher than ours, way above what our little minds can comprehend. Many thought Trump could never be president and fight for our Christian values… and God has truly shown His mighty power through the work he has done so far. I actually love it when the Lord surprises me with His revelations… It’s truly amazing how loving and merciful and just our God is. Glory to Abba Father and His son Yahushua! We could not have asked for a more faithful God.
Blessing to you and your family!
Hi Francy
I agree with you 100 percent. The Lord showed me (and I shared here many times) that America has a great end time destiny as a SHEEP nation. Fed reserve coming down …Roe v Wade coming down etc etc… a lot of pain, judgement and chaos to get there…. A holy nation unto the Lord for the end time harvest . Love comparing notes with you. Shalom sister.
Blessings to family!
I agree Phanuel, He is not conformed to our thoughts or opinions. And this is all for His glory!
I feel the same way about comparing notes with you too 🙂
Blessings to you and your family!
P-obergefell v hodges – coming down too.
Everybody has an opinion but few have a track record of hearing correctly from the Lord. Don’t let the scolders keep you from sharing what the Lord is showing you; your record, by the grace of God, speaks for itself. Messages from the Lord are NEVER received by 100% of the people. On that note, abolition of Federal Reserve would definitely send PM soaring.
Thank you for the very kind words Jemba.
hope all is well…its been a while.
Blessings!
shalom
Hi Jemba, I appreciate your sentiment about Phanuel!
Thanks
Hi Phanuel, what is your thinking about 23rd….skip a floor?
I wanted to respond to the above post….Gold will back Alaska dollar
per Terry Bennett. Please receive encouragement to share what you
see. Shalom
Great confirmation Michael C
I don’t think what happened on March 21 was the downturn… maybe an “appetizer”.. watching the health care vote and futures tonight…. seems all the downturns are related to votes. A no vote and we head down….a yes vote and we head up. If we don’t head down by tomorrow then the 10 was another specific day.
Shalom
Heads up Z3
Final vote for health care bill around 3:30 est…. right now it looks like it’s going to fail ( this is not a prophecy).
Shalom
Francy, God Bless you for sharing this and giving confirmation to others!
Many are praying for “a great revival and an amazing harvest of souls” for Canada as well!
I was in our church’s House of Prayer (HOP) 2 weeks ago and I saw in the spirit a map of Canada with drops of blood falling on communities, towns and cities. The drops of blood then began to flow into each other to form a cross from the North to the South, and the West to the East. I understood His blood shown on this map was for cleansing, separation, protection, humble power – to make a people ready for revival! The Lamb who was slain, His blood will cleanse every crevice of every heart that cries out to Him!
Christine B,
Our God is truly mighty. His Will shall be done regardless of what the enemy is planning. Yes, there are many warnings given, but ultimately His will of souls not perishing will be done. We have to be prepared but not with a negative outlook but with an optimistic one that through these times of tribulation and trials, many will come to the Lord for salvation! Glory to the Father of our Lord Yahushua, and Christ our Lord! Selah!
Francy,
A market correction means DOW goes down. Have I got that right?
Great word
Regards
Phil .
Phil,
That is the million dollar question right?…
When the Lord speaks, I really try not to add my assumptions to it for I am human and can make mistakes. He did not mention anything about the DOW but remember we all see and hear in part.
My humble suggestion is to go to the Lord directly and He will tell you.
A good teaching that helped me hear His voice more clearly is Mark Vikler’s 4 keys to hearing God’s voice. You can google the free pdf online. There are simple and quick to read. But it has truly changed how I hear Him.
I hope this blesses you. 🙂
Thank you
Thanks for sharing this teaching. I found it a blessing.
Richard,
I’m so happy you found it a blessing!
It has blessed me tremendously.
I love having that two-way conversation with the Lord.
At this point it is just giving me hope that God will speak to me.
Thanks Francy
Spot on with the election results, So I take your comments very seriously,
God bless you,
Thanks for your contribution. Always valuable
Thanks Phil!
Please read my reply to James above.
God bless you too 🙂
Update (No major crash until September)
Today I received 920, 806. This is very similar to the sequence 301, 017 which turned out very accurate. September 20 is the first day of Rosh hashanah and Cheshvan 6 is October 26. I’m not expecting any major market crash until this period, because I had another dream about the Dow exploding. I was telling someone about the Dow at 30,000, Dow 40,000 and even “possibly” Dow 100,000. This period of time “may” coincide with the Israel war. You can imagine all short positions are going to get decimated.
Shalom
Thanks, Phanuel. Very helpful.
1. Have you sold all your FAZ ?
2. If you sell FAZ , what vehicle are you putting on?
William
I sold the rest of my shares today. I’m flat for now. If FAZ climbs above $23, I will consider entering a new position.
Shalom
Phanuel, hi! Thanks for sharing what you feel you are receiving from the Lord. I’m not quite sure what to do… I guess when I’m not sure , I fall back onto the Elliot Wave principals.. I don’t think they are predicting the Dow to go that high between now and September? I don’t know..would a dollar devaluation cause the Dow to go that high? This puts me in a tough spot. Blessings, Corrine
Hi Corrine
The dream was stressing the Dow has a lot more upside. It may not literally breach 100,000. I hear they can hide all the extra printed money in the stock market, so 30,000 and 40,000 are very possible.
Shalom
Oh dear, Dow that High would not be good for FAZ. Thanks Phanuel for sharing.
Phanuel, I hate to keep harping on this but the 2017 Economist cover, card 6 is the Magician card. It has a Magician with an “Infinity” sign above his head and a 3D printer below. The card has a value of “1” and it is in the May spot. The 3D printer also has 4 completed houses on it and the 3D… the ‘D’ looks like a zero so 4 = April and 30 the 30th…. April 30th / 1 May? The previous card, the Death card, showed a mushroom cloud and it was in the April spot and had a value of 13. On 13 April the US dropped the MOAB (which produces a mushroom cloud like a nuke) in Afghanistan. The Elite are not in charge, The LORD is, but the LORD is allowing them to do these things. I’m looking for some type of Military action on or about 19 April, the French election to cause turmoil (possibly drive people into the NYSE and USD’s)…
Hi Phanuel,
Thank for sharing. Does 920 mean high point?
In your 301, 017, 301 meant high point. But what about 017 — high point or low point. From the revelation you received, the gold price should have a huge increase when Israel war erupt. It would be good to buy the call option of gold at that time.
William
My current understanding is Boundaries of Wave 4 downturn
Shalom
Anything is possible, but how could the DOW possibly go to 30, 40, 100K if we are getting ready to enter the chaos that Mena Lee said would start around the May timeframe? I’ve always taken your comments seriously but saying things like Trump is playing 4D chess and the DOW is going to 100K makes me question how you come to these conclusions. I supported, voted and prayed for Trump but it is clear now that he is more in line with the globalist. I don’t believe he can strike Syria and have Tillerson and Nicki Haley insult Russia like they have and and truly think Assad is innocent while playing 4D chess. It’s clear he believes Assad gased his people and he is making decisions around that. Either Trump is being influenced by the people around him or he has already sold out to the deep state….or both. When I first heard the Mark Taylor prophecy I got very frustrated because i knew it was the complete opposite of what so many people have shared. I believe Trump was chosen by the Lord to be President but not to make America prosperous or continue our way of life but to be in position as President when the judgement hits. I will continue to pray for Trump but I think we can forget about things getting better from here….hope I’m wrong. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts/words Phanuel.
Hi Cam
When you have a special anointing from heaven you receive Godly wisdom. The wisdom and anointing Trump receives is above the wisdom of any neocon and globalist. Who is more powerful to influence Trump? God or the globalist? I will leave it there…
Dow at 100k “may” not be literal but it accentuates the Dow has a lot more upside.
Shalom
Hey Phanuel,
I believe that but I also believe that even though God placed Trump in the white house does not mean Trump can do no wrong or will be influenced by the wrong side. God gives us all free will. Pastors are called by the Lord and placed in that position but that doesn’t mean they can’t error on certain things or be lead down the wrong path. I think the Church (the body) for the most part has the attitude that now that Trump is in everything will be okay and we can take it easy now because God’s man is in the white house but we are definitely in dangerous times and it will require consistent prayer for him….I have to admit I have been guilty of not praying for him as much lately as I should. Time to get back to it.
Cam
I agree Trump isn’t perfect, but it’s undeniable that’s he is anointed when it comes to “deal making”. After all he wrote the “art of the deal”
This article really breaks down what he has accomplished.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/15/president-trump-realigning-geo-political-alliances-and-few-paying-attention/
I agree Cam. I believe Trump will complete his God given assignment as a Cyrus, which is mostly about rebuilding the third temple in Jerusalem, but that does not mean everything he says is true or everything he does is right.
Well put James. Maybe someone already posted this but just in case no one has here’s an article by Stockman on April 15th – https://dailyreckoning.com/trump-reflation-fantasy-ends-day-100/
Get out of the casino before it’s too late, says Dave Stockman. He continues, we are facing the MOAD, the mother of all deficits. The recovery is over as federal receipts have fallen four consecutive months; the deficit has risen 15% over the past 6 months; the Freedom Caucus will not allow debt ceiling to rise without cuts to the social benefits. All this will result in government shut down on April 28, Trump’s one hundredth day in office. Reality is likely to come breaking in and finally shatter all remaining delusion. We also have the the epic showdowns with North Korea, China, Russia and Syria pending. Civil strife and riots will ensue when the government benefits are cut setting up the Dumitru Duduman timeline for the USA to the letter.
It is sad to look upon a lion who has had all his teeth pulled.
Phanuel, I noticed that 9/20 is also the same day the Fed Reserve is meeting in September to discuss interest rate policy, so the market crash could be triggered by a rate hike on that day. Also, if the bank holidays begin in June of this year, wouldn’t there be a good chance of at least a market correction by this summer? What do you think the market reaction will be after the upcoming French election? I’m hoping FAZ will begin to rise sooner rather than later. Thank you.
Hi Chris
This is how I’m playing it… if FAZ increases to the $22-23 range, I will jump back in for a potential $46 run. However, you noticed it has remained in the Low 20s for a while now. On the flip side, If it breaks below $17, I believe it will head further down. I will wait for the “920 806” time line for the market Top before taking a new FAZ position.
Shalom
i came across something interesting.
i a lot of videos there was the number 9/23
i was thinking about the same pattern as with 9/11 announced before happening in movies.
interesting is that this heavenly sign of revelation 12 is happening on this date in 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXxVwpcXV0U
also 15th of march a lot more happens
elections in the netherlands.
23rd of april elections in france.
in september elections in germany
so i see a perfect storm forming for the breakup of the european union and world wide it does not look much prettier.
Joel Richardson has two videos that debunk the Revelation 12 sign on September 23, 2017. At this point in time, with all of these things, I decided to just wait and see what the Lord does. All of this is getting quite confusing. And confusion is not God. Confusion is chaos and we know who causes that. My motto is trust in the Lord with all of your heart, lean not on your own understanding and He will direct your paths.
yes that is also my point.
but confusion has also shown up in the election but i trust more what i hear myself. was there on the right side.
Dear family,
In the ‘basketball bounce’ article I shared a dream and two visions. SNS helped to interpret the lemon house vision and the dream. I believe that his interpretation was correct. Yesterday the LORD gave me the interpretation for the cliff and log vision. I think this was indicative of the timing of it as it pointed to Shur and Marah anniversary. This is now. After I posted yesterday, I went for a walk. I started to walk down a steep track but did not have peace (the place was safe, it was just that the LORD had something else to show me) so I turned around and I ended up walking on a golf course. When I got back to my car I could hear kids playing a game of basketball and as I drove out up a hill I saw a concrete water tank on a grassy hill. May hardly seem worth mentioning but it was confirmation for me of the timing of dream. To summarise, yellow two storey house was up in metals, corresponding with drop in markets. So perhaps have a look at it, pray about it and see how the Holy Spirit directs you. Love Jane.
Z3: I share Mr. Stockman’s view, except in a longer term sense now. I believe the US has been given a reprieve for the moment, and a massive stock market drop has likely been delayed now, since we didn’t tank late last year. The events that unfolded election night and election of Trump as well as implementation of his game changing ideas, tax cuts, and job creation focus appears to be working in the short term. Transports, the BKX, consumer confidence, and durable goods orders are close to highs and haven’t fallen that much along with stocks, and those indicators must turn south before we can re-enter a LT bear market. Since my last put trade expired worthless back in early Jan, I’ve been focusing on short term swing trading various commodities, using previously mentioned tools. Although I believe the indices can have one or two significant drops, I believe they’ll be supported around the 100 to 200 dmas. I don’t believe we’re in a bear market at this time. I’m holding off on any larger put option trades now until we hit the Aug./Sept. time frame, which will correspond with the next Puetz window and Martin Armstrong turn point (2017.9), and then I’ll have to see deterioration in the above economic indicators before taking on LT shorts. I believe this brief moment in the sun is a good time to try to make some money any way you can, invest in physical gold/silver and other inflation hedges, pay off debts, slowly stockpile dry/dehydrated food, get physically/spiritually healthy, and prepare for the coming times. I’ve re-vamped my swing trading strategies just for this type of environment, where I’m not solely focused on one or two markets or the indices, but any market that presents a good risk/return for trades that… Read more »
James,
i just finished watching the video this morning and was going to comment in the other financial post. When i opened Z3 just now i saw your article.
He has some dire predictions of whats going to happen. I believe he is correct in his interpretation of the current situation.
The DJIA has closed up 11 days in a row, has not happened since 1987. Only 2 more up days and it will be a record . Keep in mind also that black monday was a 22.6% drop in one day. If history repeats itself we are looking at a decline of about 5000 points. This happened after a 2 week period of a 15% loss. However it did not last and the very next day the markets soared with record gains. Some blame the algo computers for the mess. Wonder what is going to be the blame this time.
Hey Ed H: Hope things are well with you. My systems are showing we could get a little drop in the indices next two weeks (EMD, NQ, and ES all showing a good turn point), but I believe the drops will be supported the next few months until a new topping pattern is put on, which could take 6-8 months now. I think the 20% or more drop has been delayed until the Sept/Oct 2017 to mid 2018 time period, IMO. Its looking like Gold/Silver/Platinum could be converting from a bear to a bull, since Silver/Platinum just broke the 200 dma for up, but I’m sure it will get tested and for a new bull, the past lows put on mid Dec. will need to hold. Best to you on your trading.
John,
i was just thinking about you this morning. How have you been? Yah gold is just sitting at its do or die level. It broke 1250 so we will see how it goes from here.
I cut way back on my options trading. Had a great run for a while, but then everything turned on me and i got almost every trade wrong. Now i have a bunch of penny stocks.
i know those are crazy volatile too, but im managing my gains and loses pretty well. I have been taking out my initial investment and 10% gains and letting the rest ride. I did pick a 200% gainer last week but it was only a $150 investment.
I went long on a few picks after Trump but sold too soon. Had no idea it was going to climb this high.
I cut back on my investing studying for a bit too. We got slammed at work and im trying to get another business going as well.
Ed H: I’ve been going through a re-tooling period such as yours, and looking into several businesses too, involving 3D printing and some others. The consulting life is getting old, so I’ll have to change it up soon.
I believe this type of environment is custom built for swing trading. I’ll never go back to day trading again, and will have to wait to put on LT trades. It appears you are making some solid gains and taking some profits, which is always a good thing. I’m back to closely managing risk as well with mental stops, and if a trade goes against me and crosses EMAs that I view as support or resistance, I’m out in a flash with futures contracts. You’d loose too much doing that with options.
I put so much into put options the last 6 months, its been good to take a break from persistent shorting and to go where the risk/reward leads. After watching the manipulation on the major indices for so long, I’ve moved into other markets to try to avoid that. I’ve made a few bucks on currencies, metals, and cattle, soybeans, etc., using daily and 300 min. charts and just staying out of trades until I see an opportunity where both daily/300 min. charts line up into setups I look for on the MACDs, RSI, and 50/100/200/300 EMAs. I have my easy language systems also looking for those trades to help me out, and they’re finding about 10 trades per week, but I narrow those down and only pick the symbols I feel are best. Best….
Hi Ed H,
Can you recommend a gold mine company’s stock? I am thinking to stay away ETF. If you want to go long, but you don’t want to own such ETF as SPXL, SPY, UDOW, UPRO, what kind of stock can you recommend?
William,
I like AG and NAK and a few more.
RIC,RGLD,AEM Ocean gold corp and a few penny stocks as well.
Becareful at this price level on gold at 1295 is a level to watch. If it holds and goes higher it could hit around 1320 because of short covering and profit taking. If after that it does not hold gold could go much lower. If it holds we could go higher maybe 1400-1500.
Good news is most of these stocks are at about 1/2 of what they were a few months ago.
I agree etfs are tough to trade. 3 days max and get out
Ed H,
Do you know what happen to FFMGF ? It used to over 0.50 0.70 . Now it is0.46 . What causes it to drop much?
William,
Looking at the chart and it seems there has been more selling than buying since Feb. These penny stocks are movers and shakers.
It is a company started by billionaire Keith Neumeyer. He knows what he is doing.
He also owns part of First Magestic Silver,
so they have plenty of financial backing.
It is sitting at the 52 week low and has an upside potential of 200%. It’s all time low is about .25 . So the downside is still about 50%.
I bought it in Dec and sold in esrly Feb.
Right now the chart is looking pretty ugly.
I would wait a bit to re enter because it could still go lower.
The miners suffer the worst when gold prices drop, but they also gain the most when gold goes up.
William,
Update on FFMGF today was it’s first up day in about 9 trading days. We could get about a 20% trade here if it opens higher tomorrow i’m getting in.
The Ides of March , which HOLY SPIRIT has been warning me of for 3 years . This could be the one , thanks James .
What was the warning you received?
The LORD has been telling me to watch the Ides of March for three years James . Caesar was killed on the Ides of march , Rome went from a Republic to Empire thru civil war caused by Caesar murder on the Ides of March , so when the LORD tells me to watch the Ides of March , that is what I look for .
Good word JB.
I’ve heard of this coming Ides of March a couple of times recently. I can’t remember the sources, but a few of us kicked the discussion around on another thread a couple of weeks ago. Its on my radar for sure.
Here are 2,
https://www.roguemoney.net/stories/2017/2/22/total-war-deep-state-getting-ready-to-end-trump-days-away
“These are just a few things that are planned to happen, beginning in the coming days; probably between now and right before the Ides of March. Mr. President, The Guerrilla implores you to move quickly and stand against this threat!”
Card 4 of the 2017 Economist cover is ‘The Hermit’ which has a value of “9” and seems to be in the march spot. Also there are six stars with a moon that looks to be in eclipse. There was a lunar eclipse 9 march 2016 (six stars)?
Hi Matt,
In regards to your question on another post, I have not heard anything else from the Lord in regards to HL and I unfortunately do not have any ideas about it. I simply obeyed His instructions. I’m waiting for more revelation on it but I’m not concerned. Whatever His reasoning may be it’s for the best. Perhaps Matt, it would be a good idea if you start writing down your dreams. The Lord wants us to know that He also communicates via our dreams and at night. This is how He communicated this instruction to me. Just ask Abba Father to give His nightly counsel through dreams or words of revelation and go humbly to Him and of course ask in the name of His son Yahushua. Also make sure when you ask Him, you go fully repented and willing to honor whatever instruction He gives you.
(this may be too much information but I just felt led to share it with you.)
Blessings Matt. Let me know if this helped you 🙂
Thanks for responding Francy. I just prayed for Jesus to speak to me in my dreams though I rarely dream and/or remember them… all I can do is ask.
Well Francy, I had a dream last night. I walked into a crowd of Satanists performing a ritual before an underground entrance on the US National Mall ( location of the Washington Monument, Lincoln memorial…etc) and rebuked them in Jesus’s name… oh they didn’t like that.
Hi Matt,
Do you pray in the Spirit? For this will be a great dream to pray in the Spirit for revelation. One thing I have learned is that dreams are full of symbolism and they are not literal except the numbers in them. Since you took part in the dream, this may be pertaining to something the Lord wants to counsel you. Normally dreams that have a prophetic nature are those you don’t take part in them, you’re just a spectator.
A great teaching on how to interpret dreams is Mark Vikler’s how to interpret dreams. It’s a skill you can learn.
Well and if you don’t know how to pray in tongues (in the Spirit), there’s a great teaching at biblecities.com under audio broadcasts.
The teaching is called Baptims and infillings….Great teaching on how to be Baptized in the Holy Spirit and receive your personal prayer language (Praying in tongues).
I hope these resources bless you even more than they have blessed me 🙂
Thanks, Francy. I’ll ask for revelation on this.
Hi Matt
This was more than just a dream … it was a spiritual warfare encounter. Keep rebuking them in Jesus name. Even though we fall asleep our spirit never sleeps. This was an actual satanic ritual you busted up.
Shalom
It might have been real? I don’t know there. There was another part to it but ill add that later.
After the rebuking I was looking down on what I belived to be the National Mall from above, but with what I thought were constellations overlayed upon it. I’m pretty sure I saw the constellation Orion (Orions belt). This may have been just a dream with no actual significance. I should write it down as soon as I wake. Rookie mistake. I will pray for revelation on this though.
That is excellent Matt NZ. Orion means arising in the sky or dawning. So fits from the perspective of seeing it from above. Rising up with greater revelation. A battle waged in the spirit and a promotion. If it is correct, the LORD will confirm it. For one star differs from another star in glory. In 1 Cor 15….one thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one..In Isaiah 30
I was praying about this here and I heard ‘for promotion comes not from the east or the west’ which is found in psalm 75. This also has a tie in with the directional measurements from the monument.
Thanks Jane, I’ll take a look and see what I can find.
Matt, if you look at a map of the national mall, you will find it forms the upside down pentagram, etc.. It was designed by a Mason. Creepy. SNS
I ran accross that doing some digging. Creepy to say the least.
i agree with your assessment Phanuel100%
keep up the good work Matt
Hi Francy
When the Lord tell you to sell HL, can you share us please?
Thanks.
Hi Francy,
Have you sold your HL share? HL has gone down from $6.00 to $5.20 in the last few weeks. What a faith walk.
Matt NZ, thanks again for the heads up. You have a good nose for the truth. The Guerrilla sounds a lot like Robert Davis Steele who may be the best brain out there.
Some of my favs are Rob Kirby, Jim Willie, V the Guerrilla Economist. Just looking at this in the natural… they can’t keep this juggling act going forever.
Yes Matt, but in 1949 who would’ve thought that we would gone this long without someone starting a nuclear war or since 2008 that we would’ve gone this long without a banking collapse? God is definitely the author and the finisher of this story, everyone else is just an actor on the stage, to quote W.S.
Didn’t Stockman make some dire predictions a few months back that didn’t occur?
I don’t read all of his stuff, but from what I have seen I have been very impressed with him. He was one of the few who was saying last summer Trump would win the election. His projections about the economy fit perfectly with recent prophetic insights. He sounds very solid in my opinion. If you have more details, please share them.
Thanks James for this timely warning. This may give the president reason to slash the budget. The Dept. of Education could be eliminated, for instance.
Funny you say that. Terry Bennett said the Dept. of Education would be eliminated. I think he said it was one of the first things to go.
Then I should defer paying off my kids student loans until the Dept of Education no longer exists. Note to NSA agents: just kidding.
Update extreme caution:
On 4/2-4/3 I had a dream I was on the 9th floor and found the person I was looking for (whose Birthday was on 4/3). It seemed like a continuation of the dream I already shared about going from the 12 to 9 floor. Based on this new dream there is the possibility that we could have ended Wave 4 yesterday and could are heading back up. I would trade cautiously. My lean ( now slight) is we still head down but we can’t ignore this new dream. Just remember what happened after the second hangman.
Shalom
*and are heading back up ( please edit)
I wonder today as well if my 4:45 oil dream was meaning 4/4 and will be bullish now and market going down early May from previous dreams I’ve had. The 4:45 could have been $4.45 down from when I had the dream which it did go before going bullish or it could be the date 4/4 $50 oil (if I interpreted my dream right it would be bullish after 4:45 and then drop after bullish move)
I am leaning toward 4/4 $50 oil then bullish rather than the $4.45 down from when I had dream…originally I had wondered if it meant down to $44.5 before going bullish but that was negated. And today (4/4) oil shot up after $50.
Could well be correct phanuel
Wave 4 could be over but the market is very unstable at present.
Good sign would be US dollar strength
Phil
Hi Phil
Blow out job numbers this am. Trump effect is too strong. April 13 is a wild card day.
Shalom
Phanuel
According to Martin Armstrong’s economic confidence model, current uptrend started on oct 28,2016 and lasts till nov 24,2017. Then it is all downhill till jan 18,2020.Only macro moves were shown.For micro moves one will have to buy his news letters.May be we will have to adjust our strategy for medium term trading
Hi Joe
Sounds right to me and confirms the 2018 wealth transfer dream I shared. The two blood moons next year are a sign. I still think we see FAZ in the 40s sometime between now and then. The wild card day is April 13, 2017 (Nisan 17) as I still keep seeing 4:13.
Some other thoughts … when Wave 5 begins, FAZ will continue to drop ( perhaps into low teens/single digits)… The top will be confirmed by the Lord as we have the grace know this (see Wave 1 and Wave 3). We should Load up on FAZ as we stand to make huge profits and redeem our lost time.
Shalom
Hi Phanuel,
If you know a good time to get out of FAZ and switch to go long,
please share with us. A lot of Z3ers would not like to see FAZ drop from 19 to single digit. Thanks.
Hi William
I was recently shown to sell some FAZ shares worth a certain dollar amount and I did. I’m waiting till April 13 to decide the fate of the rest of my shares. I will keep you updated.
Shalom
Hi Phanuel,
Got an update from my cycle guy last night that said we are “crash cycle’, due to the fed meeting minutes and the mention of “normalizing” their balance sheet. Also included French election, govt. shut down, possible impeachment… (Third Hangman?).He also has a “Biblical” cycle, for a “flash crash/crash/correction”, by April 23rd. Curious if you are seeing the same thing? Thanks!
Hi Bret
The market overall still has a much greater upside ( Wave 5). The next set of dates I’m watching closely are April 13 and 29. I think it’s expected for the French election to head to a run off in May. So probably already priced in.
Shalom
Hi Phanuel, what are your plans with FAZ? Do you have any updates? Do you think FAZ will move up starting today or tomorrow? Thanks.
Phanuel, that makes sense, markets going higher (Wave 5), and FAZ dropping much lower. After praying, I decided to sell most of my FAZ and move into gold and silver, then getting back into FAZ at the top of Wave 5.
There are record amounts of cash flowing into equities, makes sense to me, that we go much higher. I found this article in my email today:
“According to the website ETF.com, during the first three months of this year, inflows into ETFs were $134.7 billion. Compare that figure to the relatively puny $29.6 billion in inflows in Q1 2016, and you see why “yuge” is an accurate description.
Moreover, if inflows continue at their current pace, then 2017 will see nearly $540 billion flood into the market. That would crush last year’s record inflow total of $287.5 billion.
It is the record pace of fund inflows that really tells us that investors are feeling good about the economy and the markets.
Yes, we should worry about policy failures in Washington, the lack of hard economic data supporting this rally and the upcoming corporate earnings season.
Yet investors stay on the sidelines at their own peril, as the record levels of capital coming in to exchange-traded funds (ETFs) are going to provide a significant bid higher for equities.
You might even say they will ensure a “yuge” gain in markets going forward”.
Here is chart of Martin Armstrong real estate confidence model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPWlBmuHBGE
Hi DLBM
Thanks for sharing. I’m keeping an eye on April 13, because I still lean we head down before Wave 5.
Shalom
phanuel
Here is Martin Armstrong latest interview. He talks about the markets from 18 min mark. He says markets can double from this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7HYBsB6aA
Thanks Joe, i find this very interesting as i had a very short dream a few nights back that the Dow had shot up to 26,000 plus. The interesting thing was that i awoke on a Mond to find this, so it took place on a weekend. Martin predicts the Dow doubling? I have been asking Father for market dreams etc.
When the dollar gets devalued like I saw in a dream on 7/7/2014, everything purchased in dollars will inflate, including stocks.
So James, when the US dollar devalue, the US stock market would go much higher? It is not that when US stock market go higher, then FAZ should go lower. Then how can FAZ skyrocket upon the US dollar devaluation?
FAZ is tied to the financial sector, so for it to skyrocket means the event I saw with the table getting turned over must deliver a big blow to financial institutions. John Paul Jackson saw Bank of America will have to be nationalized to avoid total collapse. I believe what he saw is the same event I saw. I can only speculate about all the possibilities, but a sudden severe devaluation of the dollar might be a false flag event to cover for the real problem of derivatives exposure.
Very good points. The derivatives exposure will indeed cause great trouble to the banks. Plus, if the banks don’t own much of other physical assets such as good companies, if they only own the paper money assets, surely their own paper money assets will devalue a lot. So when the US devaluation happen, all the companies owning physical assets, their share prices will get inflated, their us dollar loan ( debt ) will actually become smaller. So the stock market may go up a lot when dollar devalue, but the banks’ shares can drop down a lot.
Hi James and everyone, thank you for your explanation James, those are good points. A few things I’m thinking of are from what I’ve read it is up for debate if we have really seen the downturn into wave 4 in Elliot Wave? If we have not then I’m thinking of waiting before deciding anything on selling Faz or not. The other perplexing scenario could be a ‘suddenly ‘ ! I happened to watching a YouTube of Hubie Synn and Heidi Baker yesterday, and Heidi definitely saw something that happened suddenly and well- dressed people were waiting in bread lines..on the other hand if we are in wave 5 , I don’t want to sit and watch Faz go down a lot. But could Faz still kind of hold here and go up even if stock market goes up like crazy? Anyone feel free to comment. I’m praying about what to do, I’m not at peace today so I will do nothing. I need clear direction from the Lord. Blessings, Corrine
Hi Corrine,
I believe a lot of Z3ers are looking for that V to come to pass.
And I believe God would have the grace to reveal to JB, JR or Phanuel, or someone else when the market come close to V. Phanuel has a very good advice is that when FAZ go up to $22-23, he would go back to FAZ. That means that even we don’t own FAZ at the moment, there is no need to worry we may miss the V, because FAZ has to get to $22-23 first.
Since JB saw the silver price N shape, my opinion is that it should be fine to buy such as HL. Before the debt ceiling problem be solved, the market should be up and down, should down more when approaching to the debt ceiling date. When the debt ceiling is hard to be solved, gold/silver can explode and at the same time the market can be down a lot. You can pray about on which day FAZ will get to 46.56.
William, thanks for your comments and thoughts, I appreciate it! Blessings, Corrine
Corrine, I held FAZ a long time and after praying about it, I sold it all about 3 weeks ago. I agree with Phanuel, the markets are going higher, and I believe they will go to new ATH’s. I also agree that FAZ will go to 46, but the hardest thing to get right in prophecy at times is timing, because The Lord has not given us a specific date of the crash. When I sold my FAZ, a burden was lifted off me, so I know I did the right thing. I have recently been buying and shorting gold and silver and slowly recovering my losses in FAZ. I’m sure you have already been praying about what to do, just wait on the Lord, until you have peace in your heart on what to do. I plan on getting back in FAZ when I feel peace about it.
Shalom.
DBLM,
Thank you! I’ve been praying too about it and I’m going to sell my shares soon. Blessings,
Corrine
Hi Corrine
Once the European Union starts unraveling money from Europe is going to pour into the DOW and S&P. The dollar will get stronger. The French election is important. It can get ugly quickly for the shorts especially if the health care bill and tax reform pass. Even if the market goes down secondary to the French election, like Brexit it’s going to rebound quickly.
Shalom
Phanuel, thank you! I really appreciate that you shared with us that you sold your shares of FAZ. Your post is what got me thinking about doing the same. This unfortunately has been a disastrous move to my accounts. I’ve learned a hard lesson. Blessings,
Corrine
Hi Corrine,
I think these are the trials on us. The Lord give, The Lord take. Any way, we’ll follow Him. When FAZ go to the single digit, I believe we’ll be better off then. God bless.
Hi Corrine/Z3
I’m going to buy a small amount of FAZ shares to hedge against the French Elections on April 23 ( this is not based on prophecy). If there is no big sell off next week I will exit my position. It might be wise to keep your shares until next week.
Shalom
Phanuel, thank you.
James, hi I was listening to a interview with Bill Holter and Jim Sinclair, they referred to a recent article on ZeroHedge posted on April 15 th .it was about how Direxicon is not issuing any new shares of JNUG? I guess there has been so much interest in this etf that they have been overwhelmed! This made me think of FAZ of course, what if we sold are shares now and then this Fall we couldn’t buy any because all the big traders are thinking the same way and there weren’t any shares left to buy? I don’t know how to post the article or I would. Just wondering if you saw this article and what are your thoughts?
Blessings,
Corrine
Thanks for that info Corrine. I had not seen that. FAZ has been around since late 2008, so it seems unlikely to be taken off the market unless there is some major event, a game changer.
It might be interesting to compare how many shares JNUG has versus FAZ . That may clarify a few things too.
Corrine,
I bought JNUG yesterday at 4.36.
It got nailed by 20% so i got in. A gamble? Probably , but i went for it. My stops are at 5% so lets see how it goes. The chart looks bad but where it is sitting now looks like a bounce potential to me.
Hi Ed H, I listened to some Elliot Wave guys and they said gold would go all the way down to $1130!! So I may subscribe to the service again to make sure that still stands but that’s what was said recently and over the past few months… so if gold goes that low, I’m definitely going to get into JNUG! Those are my thoughts. Blessings, Corrine
Corrine,
Here is the article. Note that JNUG has been down every day this week and I believe 4 straight days if you include today. Another note is that there is a 4:1 split coming 5/1.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-15/junior-gold-miner-etf-suspends-creation-orders-due-shortage-underlying-instruments
04/13/2017 $6.80
04/17/2017 $6.57
04/18/2017 $6.41
Blessings
Hi Tom P, thanks for posting the article. The article states they would not be selling any new shares to people that would like to buy the ETF. If gold goes up JNUG will do very well, I’ve been watching it and wanting to buy it actually… some people maybe selling it if there is a split coming. The price has gone down recently because the price of gold has gone down this week . So my concern is that Direxicon can stop selling an ETF that investors would like to buy…just my thoughts. Blessings, Corrine
Thanks for sharing Joe
P, just saw your thought of yesterday, I agree with you, I lean down even though we need to be careful; 2370-2380 was not a huge surprise, much higher than does call for caution. Any new thoughts on your part now? Shalom
Hi TAJ
I was recently shown to sell a certain dollar amount of FAZ shares, this could imply we head higher from here. I’m waiting till April 13 to confirm which direction we go.
Also remember the 80s dream before Wave 5. The 80 could be 80 points from top to bottom (2400-2322). This will imply 3 floors down equals 80 points.
Shalom
are you waiting until april 13 to sell faz shares?
TAJ
I already sold some shares just waiting to decide the fate of the rest. Might just keep the rest and add as the wave 5 Top approaches (thus decreasing the price per share).
Brother Phanuel, that is a confirmation to me, I just sold most of mine to buy them cheaper at the top, The Lord has me in gold and silver until then. Shalom.
Phanuel, I remember I shared with you a dream I had of SPY down over 2 dollars, then seeing a green upwards moving line, with the feeling that it would happen on a Monday. I think the fulfillment was on 3/27 and I was possibly being shown the bottom of the wave 4 down in that dream.
Also, silver is starting to move down at the same time the stock market is starting to move back up. James has been shown that Silver drops much more. Maybe that will happen at the same time wave 5 happens in the stock market as money would move from metals into stocks.
Thanks for sharing Jonathan. It’s looking like 301, 017 were the boundaries of Wave 4.
Shalom
With after what happened today, definitely will be watching from now until Nisan 17. Might not be done just yet.
Yep….
Wow what a crazy market!
Volatility !!
Please be careful
Shalom