“America, You Will Reap What You Have Sown”

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“The law of sowing and reaping is one of My most basic, easily understood laws. It is is simple even for those who don’t have spiritual minds to grasp. Yet the father of lies has taken it and twisted it and deceived billions upon billions.

It is written: ‘Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.’ (Galatians 6:8)

O Earth hear the word of The LORD!

The time of the harvest is here and look at the seeds that you have sown! Will you not reap of them?

I AM not a man that I should lie. My laws cannot be be changed, for I do not change. I do not bend to accommodate the laws of man, instead man bows to me!

My children will bow and confess Jesus as LORD of their own will and will joyfully receive their reward and enter into My glory. Those that are the children of the devil will be will be cut down, crushed and humbled. They too will bow to Me and confess that Jesus as LORD with weeping and gnashing of their teeth.

I have warned for so long now, yet only My children are hearing, all others love and wallow in their sin. In this time of reaping no country will be immune to the consequences of the seed they have sown. Some will reap more destruction than others, but America, you will fall the hardest. You were blessed more than any other country because of your forefather’s faith in Me and obedience to My laws. That blessing is now covered by every vile and abominable sin ever known. I AM not blind or deaf. I see everything. It is because of My great mercy that you have not been destroyed already.

Do you actually think that I will give you even more time? There is no repentance, no turning away from your evil ways! America, if I give you more time you will fall even further away from Me. You could have never and you will never be great without Me! Why do you look to men to save you? I tell you that they cannot, for I have not ordained it. You will soon see, you are going down, humbled more than any nation ever.

Many will be saved as they come to know Me in the last moments of their life. Sadly many more will harden their hearts to me, as it is written.

The warnings are over.

Have you noticed that My hand of protection is off of you? Whatever comes at you from the enemy now will hit you. You will be amazed at how many enemies are already within, with more coming every day. Yes, you will see what it is like to be without My mighty hand and when you, America, divide My land and my city, your land will be shaken, divided, burned and utterly destroyed.

As I have said before, the Fall will be the beginning of the fall into utter darkness and chaos. The Fall is harvest time. This is especially true for you America, you will reap what you have sown.

My remnant will be the only ones protected by My hand for they are not appointed to My wrath. I AM the ark of protection and I AM the door that closes quickly.
Today is the day of salvation, you are not promised tomorrow.”

Jeff Byerly

Author: Jeff Byerly

Jeff Byerly used to live a normal American Christian life. He went to church on Sunday and Wednesday, worship band practice on Thursday, was on his church board, and tithed 10%. Even so, his heart was far from the Lord at times and he had secret sin that only He knew about, which he could not overcome. In 2012 Jesus spoke to him in the middle of the night and said “The time of the gentiles is almost over, you must get ready for My return.”

That is when Jeff started seeking the Lord with abandon and putting Him first every morning in worship and prayer. Suddenly the sins he had been struggling with for so long just vanished and God began speaking to him on a regular basis. In August of 2015 the Holy Spirit impressed on him to begin writing drown the messages, so in December 2015 he started a blog site called Holy Spirit Wind.

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Pat
Pat
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September 6, 2016 2:22 PM

I thank God for leading me to z3news 9 months ago. I check the site several times a day, and read every comment. It challenges me at times to stretch and grow in my faith and in my understanding. I think Z3 news is part of God’s mercy towards us, giving us a place to meet and strengthen each other, as we prepare for the days ahead.

James Bailey
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September 6, 2016 7:14 PM

Thanks for sharing that Pat. I am glad you found us too!

Jeff Byerly
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September 6, 2016 3:53 PM

Amen God Bless You Pat!

Rev. James B. Medd
Rev. James B. Medd
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September 6, 2016 7:45 PM

Brother Jeff:

Approximately 2 weeks ago the Lord spoke to me concerning the status of
the USA. and what to expect in the very near future. This is a confirmation
concerning both yourself and pastor Faircloth that appeared today on Z3.
If i may:

America, America Why hast thou forsaken Me!

Know ye not that I (Jesus Christ Almighty) and I alone set thee above all Nations (DE. 28: 1-5). Your nation was righteous in My sight and according to My word I exalted your Nation before all men (PR. 14: 34)

Know ye not America that I and I alone judge and humble nations that have turned away from Me & forsaken Me (DE. 28: 15-68)

America, America I have waited and waited for you to repent of your sins and iniquities, and to turn from your wicked and evil ways, but you would not. My watchmen whom I sent unto you to warn you of your wicked evil and sinful ways you have despised and mocked.

America, America how I have longed to see you at the foot of the Cross. You have shunned My outstretched arms, My long suffering, My mercy, My forgiveness, My love to you.

America, America you have chosen the evil, sinful ways of the world and embraced the arms of the wicked one. Death, destruction and mourning has come upon you and will overtake you.

Jeff Byerly
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September 6, 2016 8:04 PM

That is a powerful message from the Lord, Rev James.
I pray that you are preaching like this to your congregation because there are not many preaching what the people need to hear. You may lose a few in your congregation but their blood will not be on your hands.
God bless you!

Hal
Hal
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September 11, 2016 9:36 PM
Judgements are about turning people to God. It’s unfortunate that pain and suffering are required before many people will humble themselves and cry out to God. Even avowed atheists, when their lives on the line and they are suffering pain and anguish that no one else but God could possibly save them from will finally say, God save me! America is a covenant nation in parallel with Israel. And just as Israel has been and will be destroyed and raised up again, so will America. Both America and Israel, despite being greatly blessed, have been overcome by Satan and the spirit of Babylon. God’s house will be cleansed first in America. The destruction will be swift and complete. But make no mistake, the entire world has become corrupt with many antichrist nations worse than America in the grip of Satan. There is no safe country to flee to to escape judgment. There are only places of refuge in remote areas scattered through out each country to which God will lead his people. But where the cleansing starts first, it will be completed first as well. America is where the great gathering will occur of the converted gentiles as destruction continues to sweep people from around the world who are seeking a place of safety. God may lead some to assist His work in foreign lands. But otherwise It would be foolish to leave America trying to escape judgment. I’m surprised how little focus there has been on the need for physical preparations along with the spiritual. Some say they haven’t been told by God to prepare or that they believe God will provide all. Consider the tremendous time and effort Noah spent in physical preparations. If you want to be a Joseph, consider that he spent 7 years gathering, preparing,… Read more »
Peggy A.
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September 12, 2016 10:03 AM

Hal,
Very interesting comment. Thank-you for taking the time and effort to share your ideas.

Diana Pulliam
Diana Pulliam
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September 6, 2016 1:36 PM

Jeff,
I know this was a hard Word from the Lord, and I sense the sorrow you felt when writing it. The Holy Spirit has confirmed to me that it is a true and faithful word, and the very reason He is beaconing His Church to draw ever closer to Him.
God bless you!

Jeff Byerly
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September 6, 2016 3:50 PM

Diana thank you so much for the confirmation. Yes it is not easy to give these messages and it saddens my heart that most people are just not getting what the Lord is saying. Reconciliation will come after the judgment, its the only way right now. People are sliding farther and farther away from Him and He is going to put a stop to it. Like it or not!

Tammy
Tammy
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September 6, 2016 4:00 PM

Jeff, I feel strongly in my spirit that America would not repent if given more time………..if that were true it would have already happened. God has the perfect way to turn hearts back to him if at all possible. It really, really is here.

Marie
Marie
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September 6, 2016 4:20 PM

I don’t think the majority of American thinks it’s even necessary TO repent, I don’t think it even crosses most people’s minds. From the people I encounter, it seems many think things are actually better here in America now that we’re more accepting of “everyone” (i.e. gays etc).

Peggy A.
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September 6, 2016 5:03 PM

Yes, “acceptance” or “inclusion” are those buzz words really meaning that “anything goes,” and that the absolute authority of the Holy Bible (Heaven’s Rules) are being rejected.

“Inclusion” makes about as much sense to me as taking down all stop signs, traffic lights and road signs because they’re just too restrictive.
Obviously, to be so inclusive as to take down all stop signs and traffic lights, there will be an infinite number of crashes, casualties, and chaos.

Ivan
Ivan
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September 6, 2016 5:23 PM

Is God exclusive? Does God not shine the Sun on both the righteous and unrighteous? Does he withhold his love from the sinner? Let him cast the first stone who has not sinned himself.

James Bailey
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September 6, 2016 10:53 PM

We live in an age where God is temporarily allowing the wheat and tares to exist alongside one another. So temporarily it appears the unrighteous are prospering, but it is only a temporary illusion. It will not last. Only the righteous will be saved while the unrighteous are cut off.

The Bible reveals God is righteous and just. Therefore, He cannot accept anything unrighteous or unjust because it contradicts who He is. He loves everyone, but He only accepts those who repent and walk uprightly before Him. The unrighteous will spend eternity separated from Him in hell. That is why the whole message of the Bible is the message of repentance so we can be accepted by God. So yes, God is exclusive.

Ivan
Ivan
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September 7, 2016 8:23 AM

Hello James,
So you have shown us your understanding. You have not addressed the paraphrased quotes from the Bible above. I notice everyone wants to point at the sliver in his neighbours eye without noticing the beam in their own. Personally I think God is asking us not to becoming experts at judging or pointing out the problems with everybody. That is not what the Bible is teaching us to become good at. In Jesus, I believe it is teaching us about love and compassion. Did Jesus go on and on about the prostitute? Is God not saying look only at your own righteousness so that you may be invited closer to Him. Let Him be concerned about judgment. That’s what the paraphrased quotes I have shared in these two posts are telling me. Do you not interpret them that way?

Sujit Thomas
Sujit
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September 8, 2016 2:17 AM

Righteousness has no part in wickedness. If God is indeed righteous, then you must conclude that he is exclusive, exclusively righteous.

Love that papers over wickedness is not love at all for whoever displays such love is only paving the wicked soul’s path to death.

Consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his or her way will save him or her from death and cover over a multitude of sins (James 5:20).

Does that mean I make James 5:20 into a career? Certainly not! If I wish to exercise wisdom in these matters, I need to be guided by the Holy Spirit. Without the wisdom given by the Holy Spirit, I will only waver from one extreme to the other until I eventually fall into the ditch on either side.

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 9:05 AM

Sujit,
You expressed that beautifully!

James Bailey
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September 8, 2016 12:48 AM

The spirit of this world tries to change the message of the Bible to remove the messy requirement of repenting from sins, so they recreate Jesus as someone who loves and accepts everyone. Unfortunately, that is not the Jesus of the Bible. He preached the message of repentance from sins as a requirement for being acceptable to God, which is the same message proclaimed throughout the Bible. Without genuine repentance we are cut off from God and doomed. The spirit of this world is inclusive, but God is very exclusive.

Matt Wilson
Matt Wilson
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September 9, 2016 12:55 AM

I think you are getting the cart before the horse.

In John 8, Jesus told the adulterous woman to “go and sin no more” (i.e. to repent). However He did that AFTER He had dispatched the men who threatened to stone her (i.e. after He had freed her from condemnation.)

Repentance doesn’t lead to freedom from condemnation. Rather, freedom from condemnation leads to repentance.

SeanC
SeanC
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September 9, 2016 6:21 AM

Matt i can see what you are getting at but I think there’s more to it.

Being free from condemnation can lead someone to repent only if that person witnesses God’s goodness in word and power. Most people are unwilling to hear reasoning, but when you show them God’s power, they are willing to listen.

Nevertheless, it is by seeing and understanding the consequences of refusing God that many people do come to repent. A mother does not yell at her young child who is crossing the street while a car approaches that she loves her. No, a mother yells, “get out of the street right now!” Because the mother knows that a car can run over her child. The child may get scared but when it’s explained that the mother yelled out of love to save her, the child understands.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

The gospel is not all love. It’s not all repentance. It’s both. A person must turn away from sin. Condemnation is God’s just wrath on our sin, and we now have no condemnation because Jesus died. But if we refuse Jesus or if we disobey him without repenting, you condemn yourself. Condemnation is NOT being aware of hell and the consequences. Condemnation IS cursing yourself by refusing to abide in Christ and obey him with love and faith.

James Bailey
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September 9, 2016 5:34 AM

Repentance doesn’t lead to freedom from condemnation??? Which Bible are you reading? Here is what mine says.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10)

Notice we are not forgiven for our sins or cleansed from our unrighteousness until after we confess our sins. Repentance is the heart of the gospel message and the only way to be free from condemnation. Anyone who claims to know God, but says they have not sinned is calling God a liar and does not know God.

Ole Sorensen
Ole Sorensen
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September 9, 2016 6:44 AM

The Scriptures say much about repentance. John the Baptist began his public preaching saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” [St Matthew 3:2] Jesus preaches the same sermon, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” [St Matthew 4:17] What does it mean to repent?
The Scriptures teach that there are two parts of repentance: contrition and faith. “Properly speaking, repentance consists of these two parts: one is contrition, that is, terror smiting the conscience with the knowledge of sin, and the other is faith, which is born of the Gospel, or of absolution, believes that sins are forgiven for Christ’s sake, comforts the conscience, and delivers it from terror.” [The Augsburg Confession, XII.3-5] Without these two parts repentance is not complete. It is not enough to be sorry for our sins and our sinfulness, in Christ this sorrow must be and is overcome.
The first part of repentance, contrition, is the result of the preaching of the Law. We hear what God demands, and we see that we don’t meet these demands. This creates a sorrow over our sinfulness. The second part of repentance, faith, is the result of the Gospel. We hear of God’s love and sure promises for us, and we rejoice in His gifts and believe His promises.

stuart
stuart
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September 9, 2016 4:01 PM

Agreed James. Also notice that there is a caveat in v.7 which states “if we walk in the light.” This is a conditional statement indicating that IF a believer’s life is characterized by walking in the light, i.e. general obedience, then the blood of Jesus cleanses for those occasional sins upon repentance. The same cannot be said if Christians choose not to walk in the light. Disobedient Christians who make practice sin are not assured of the cleansing blood of Christ should they continue to walk in unrepentance. Those who continue to walk in darkness do not even have fellowship with God (v.6).

James Bailey
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September 10, 2016 12:11 AM

Amen to that. The idea that we are ready for heaven because we prayed the sinners prayer at some point in our past is a doctrine of demons and contradicts many requirements found in the scriptures. Faith without works is dead (James 2:17).

Lottie
Lottie
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September 10, 2016 1:16 AM

anything not of faith is sin. The repentance unto His salvation is repenting of our human relliance upon self thus trusting and relying upon Him….which may entail a small prayer in its beginning. The symptom of no trust in Him is our little sins, however they were wiped out at th cross. So go in peace, Believers. He’ s got ya!

HMurphy
HMurphy
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September 10, 2016 6:24 PM

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Dean
Dean
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September 9, 2016 2:46 PM

I get your point, but I have sneaking suspicion that she likely repented just about the time she and her partner grabbed their clothes.

Erron
Erron
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September 9, 2016 1:25 PM

Your definition of repentance will reveal whether you are living under grace or works. In the Old Testament, sinners repented by bringing a sacrifice of penance and confessing their sins (Num 5:7). But in the new we bring a sacrifice of praise and confess His name (Heb 13:15). We don’t do anything to deal with our sins for Jesus has done it all. Our part is to change our mind, believe the good news, and say thank you Jesus! If that’s not practical enough for you, then start praising Jesus who died to free us from sin and whose grace empowers us to sin no more. See yourself as dead to sin and alive to Christ.

James Bailey
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September 9, 2016 4:55 PM

Sounds good but contradicts the words of Jesus spoken to the churches.

4 But I have this against you, that you have left your first love.
5 Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place—unless you repent. (Rev.2:4-5)

16 Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth. (Revelation 2:16)

Repentance is the key to drawing close to God, which is why we are told to seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, which means continually seeking first to get right with Him in every area of our life. (Matthew 6:33)

8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10)

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 9:03 AM

Ivan,
I honestly don’t think that anyone is trying to point out a sliver in our neighbor’s eye. I think we are discussing the present state of apostate America, who is in big trouble.

We care deeply about the eternal outcome for all souls. (Forever is a LONG time!) We are discussing the current state of things so that everyone’s understanding grows.

The purpose of the discussion? Bringing more light to our own walks and bringing more conviction that we all need to do the work of an evangelist in this very late hour.

Sujit Thomas
Sujit
Member
September 8, 2016 2:01 AM

There is a difference between judging to condemn and judging to convict. There is also a difference between judging unrighteously and judging righteously.

God letting the sun shine on both the righteous and the wicked is an example of his goodness. His goodness must not be construed to mean his acceptance of unrepentant wickedness.

God’s love for the sinner should not be construed to mean that he delights in evil.

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 8, 2016 7:04 AM

Amen brother Sujit
That is 100% truth!

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 6:57 AM

It is not God’s will that any should perish (end up in eternal hell/lake of fire), and any that sincerely repent and receive fully His Son Jesus Christ, He will certainly not withhold His Love from. That is, provided that it is done before their last breath.

However, He has specified in His Word the Way to Him.
He has specified HIS RULES (Heaven’s Rules—because Heaven RULES). Today, the culture is controlling the general thought through vocabulary. They are using words of positive connotation such as “inclusion” and “acceptance” to label sin.
In this case, “inclusion” and “acceptance” really mean relative truth/”anything goes.” This boils down to total disregard for God’s Rules and Laws as the Holy Spirit has breathed in the living Words of the Holy Bible.

This is essentially calling evil “good” (and good “evil.”)
This causes confusion and then progressive lack of discernment in the minds of many and in turn is subtly affecting their possible eternal destination outcomes.

SeanC
SeanC
Member
September 8, 2016 6:22 AM

Yes so true. Imagine if traffic laws became inclusive and anything goes…lots of people would crash, traffic would not flow and the streets would be chaos. Boundaries are set for a reason to ensure efficiency, safety, and order.

We can conclude that traffic laws are good for us. In the same manner, God’s laws are good for us because those boundaries are what keeps us from the consequences of sin and ultimately eternal death.

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 9:16 AM

Amen, Sean,
That is exactly the way I view removing the Bible from our culture, as well as legalizing the murder of the unborn (I think the # is up to about 65 million now) and the legalization of sodomy. It is just like removing stop signs, traffic lights, speed limit signs, and all road signs. Actually, lets say it started in the 1960’s by removing a few stop signs here and there. Then they wanted the removal of speed limit signs….etc., etc…….it’s a progression down a slippery slope.

Now here we are today, and SYMBOLICALLY there are more and more “petitions” going on to remove more……like maybe town and city signs and maybe even street signs and house
#’s.

A fundamental concept in all of this is that there are only TWO SPIRITS. They are the HOLY SPIRIT and the unholy spirit (selfish/demonic/satanic). Which spirit do we think is in operation in the progressive removal of Biblical Truth, signposts, landmarks, laws, and rules?

Keep in mind that all Scripture (Holy Bible) is GOD-BREATHED, that God puts HIS WORD above His Name, that it is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and that it stands eternal in the Heavens (each idea in this paragraph is supported by Scripture).

Dean
Dean
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September 9, 2016 2:48 PM

Love, perhaps not, but God most certainly does withhold blessings from an habitual, unrepentant sinner.

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 6, 2016 7:27 PM

Marie I think you are right!
Most Americans think they are above repentance and they should be able to do whatever they darn well please…

Miranda
Member
September 6, 2016 7:39 PM

Sadly I think you are correct 🙁

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 6, 2016 4:02 PM

Tammy I believe that 100%

Carol
Carol
Member
September 7, 2016 12:04 AM

Most churches don’t stress repentance at all! The word sin is barely touched on, prayer which brings tears of deep regret to repentance is looked on as weakness. Grace and love are preached and overshadow the God of judgement which is the God our nation and individuals will soon meet. May God have mercy on so many souls….

stuart
stuart
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September 7, 2016 4:41 AM

I believe that is because so many pastors preach that grace covers all sins…even sins not repented of. As a result repentance is not taken seriously, resulting in lukewarm believers. Lukewarm believers are like the proverbial frog in the kettle. The frog is able to adjust his body temperature to accommodate the rising water temperature in the kettle – until it is too late and the frog is boiled to death. In the same way, lukewarm Christians who adjust to and accommodate sin in their lives until it is too late may end up being vomited out of Jesus’ mouth.

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 6:59 AM

That is exactly the case, Stuart.

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 9:33 AM

Stuart,
Your example of the “frog in the kettle” is EXCELLENT and so very appropriate to these times.

This illustration seems to be one of satan’s main strategies. He seems to be very patient and will infiltrate just a little at a time ’till the frog in the post (an undiscerning humans) is glorying in the warm water, and even soaping themselves up in it, saying how GREAT it is.

Sadly, the “frog” has been cleverly and hugely deceived by the kingdom of darkness, coming ever so gradually and insidiously, appearing as an “angel of light.”

Note to all “frogs”— JUMP OUT OF THE POT NOW, no matter how “good” it feels to your flesh. Your essence is not “flesh” anyway. You are a spirit!! Feed your spirit daily with God’s Holy Word. Ok, I’m seeing some beautiful lavender light as I type this.

(“Come OUT of her!!”)

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 9:21 AM

Carol,
I agree about the need to stress repentance. If we check Jesus’ messages to the 7 Churches in Revelation Chapters 2 and 3, we’ll see the word REPENT quite often.

My understanding is that these 7 Churches also represent the ages, stages, and phases of Church History. We are presently in the Laodicean Church age. Of course, I believe there is a remnant operating in the characteristics of the Philadelphia Church age at this time.

Dean
Dean
Member
September 9, 2016 3:08 PM

The seven stars and the seven candlesticks were not seen sequentially, or ordered, they were seen concurrently.

For this reason, I do not see the seven churches as sequential stages, but rather as representing the state of the entire Church, consistently over time, but becoming more pronounced as we approach the Parousia

Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 7:22 AM

The Seven Churches as literal churches at the time of the writing of Revelation as well as being symbolic of the ages, phases, and stages of Church History is VERY well documented. Overlaying the descriptions upon history fits perfectly well. In addition, many have named the “angel” of each church as a specific person that was a leader of that church age (although I haven’t heard a specified person for Laodicea).

There is a general agreement that the Laodicean Church Age began somewhere around the year 1900.

Dean
Dean
Member
September 10, 2016 8:41 AM

There is no dispute concerning the existence of the churches at John’s time.

I provided a Biblical basis suggesting that they are not symbolic of phases. What is the Biblical basis to the contrary?

Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 10:45 AM

Well, we have the Logos Word and Rhema word.

Often, when reading Scripture, the Holy Spirit reveals deeper and often symbolic meanings to literal Scripture as He breathes His Spirit upon our logical understanding. Every person’s name, the names of cities, objects, etc. can all be seen in symbolic as well as literal ways according to how the Holy Spirit impresses it to the individual.

For example, the Book of Ruth is a really amazing Prophetic Picture of so many things including the partnership of the Gentile Church with her Jewish Roots and the “One New Man” partnership. This could not be gleaned by taking a purely literal and logical analysis, although that is not wrong, and the events certainly did take place.

Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 10:53 AM

Also, perhaps the 7 churches could be seen consistently over time to varying degrees, but history shows that each one occurred INDIVIDUALLY and PROMINENTLY in succession, in order, throughout the ages. We are now obviously in the final church age of Laodicea.

Carol
Carol
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September 8, 2016 1:01 PM

I agree, people in my area are preparing now with bibles to share, hard copies of great teachings as internet soft copies may be unavailable. The 30 year old group are getting their eyes opened and willing to be leaders. There is much wisdom in prepping to open homes to the untaught who will be coming to the Lord through the judgements which are coming.

Ole Sorensen
Ole Sorensen
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September 7, 2016 10:18 AM

Perhaps. But there are still many faithful churches out there. We are each responsible to enjoin ourselves to a faithful church, yourself included. Peace

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 12:32 PM

I would define a faithful church as one that preaches the full counsel of the entire Bible as being absolute truth. They would use the Bible as its own commentary. A faithful church would take a stand on issues of today that do not line up with God’s Word and would care nothing for the lie of “political correctness.” Their “P.C.” would be “Passion for Christ.”

A faithful church would be preaching on the Book of Revelation and where we are in Bible Prophecy as relates to current events.
In addition, they would be preparing the members for the possibility of persecution and marginalization (through vocabulary and thought control) as well as hatred of true born again followers of Jesus Christ.

Some have been taught that they’ll “be out of here” before anything bad happens. That will put them in jeopardy of thinking God deserted them if/when they have to go through trials. This will be part of the great “falling away.”

In addition, a faithful church will be moving in the direction of their worship being “on earth as it is in heaven.” Many of their worship songs will be based on Scripture from the worship scenes in the book of Revelation. They will let the Holy Spirit lead their worship to the point that the Glory Presence falls on the worshipers, leading to repentance, revelation, healing, and deliverance.

The faithful church will be a return to the 5-fold ministry in operation as in the Book of Acts. The faithful church will be going out into the marketplace and neighborhood healing the sick, and driving out demons in Jesus’ Name.

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 12:38 PM

Oh, and a couple more thoughts…… The faithful church will be teaching about the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and equipping the members to be alert to which gifts of the Spirit are surfacing in their own lives. They will encourage those that have received their prayer language to use it regularly. They will emphasize that using the prayer language will help greatly in personal edification and preparation for the coming times.

They will teach about the power of our words, dying to self,
and the Blood Covenant. Hopefully, they will be emphasizing our Jewish Roots and educate the people about the Lord’s Feasts.

They will encourage all members in daily Bible reading and Bible meditation on Scriptures. They will encourage members to spend time waiting on the Lord and in two-way conversation with the Lord.

Tammy
Tammy
Member
September 7, 2016 12:53 PM

Peggy, wow! That was some anointed writing! Those things are exactly what the Lord has been teaching me the past year or so and I am so thankful! I would add to your list to really teach the privilege and power and meaning of the shed blood of Jesus! That is HUGE and NOT taught!

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 2:14 PM

Tammy,
Amen, about the Power of the Blood. I agree entirely, and I’ve noticed that those songs are generally not in today’s hymnals.

If a mosquito happens to bite us, it should immediately start singing uncontrollably “There’s POWER in the Blood.”
(His Blood covering on us.)
(Ok— just a light moment there…..)

Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 8:37 PM

Song: “The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP_1su6znew

HMurphy
HMurphy
Member
September 10, 2016 6:34 PM

Amen and amen sister!!!!!! Praise Abba Yah!

Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 8:28 PM

Did you know that “Hallelujah” means “Praise Yah” (or “Praise God”)?

Too bad that too many in the world say “Hallelu-ME” instead.
(“What about ME”?)
“SELFIE” MUST GO!!

“HE must INCREASE and i must
decrease.”

Scott
Scott
Member
September 11, 2016 11:42 PM

Peggy,

Have you seen the preaching of Billye Brim? She was on Sid Roth…July or early August. Teaches that the church doesn’t emphasize the “Blood of Jesus”…there is power in the blood.

Peggy A.
Member
September 12, 2016 5:10 AM

Scott,
No, I haven’t. Thanks for sharing, though. Perhaps I will check that out.
I really like the Sid Roth TV interviews. They are very inspiring!

Scott
Scott
Member
September 12, 2016 7:44 AM

Yes they are! 🙂

stuart
stuart
Member
September 7, 2016 2:55 PM

“I would define a faithful church as one that preaches the full counsel of the entire Bible as being absolute truth.”

Your statement is certainly true. However, what I’ve noticed in most churches is that they preach belief in the gospel as Jn 3:16 requires which attracts converts. On the other hand the requirement of obedience according to Heb 5:9 is barely mentioned, if mentioned at all. Both belief and obedience are required for eternal life. The former produces converts. The latter produces disciples. Jesus commands us to produce disciples; not just converts. Converts can still fall away from the faith through unbelief or disobedience. Disciples persevere through trials, fight the good fight and finish the race. Many churches excel at producing converts but few excel at producing disciples.

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 3:10 PM

Stuart,
I would agree with that. Hopefully they are not just producing pew-warmers. Also, there’s always that question of what TRUE CONVERSION means……..interesting discussion……

stuart
stuart
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September 7, 2016 3:59 PM

Indeed…thanks for your comments Peggy. God bless

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 10:30 PM

What I mean by that is that some think that simply repeating a sinner’s prayer as a child or adult takes care of everything.
They think they’re “good to go.” Perhaps that did not precipitate a TRUE CONVERSION. The need a personal inner witness with their spirit that this has happened. It is not only based on repeating a prayer and having a pastor declare that they’re “saved.”

stuart
stuart
Member
September 8, 2016 1:01 PM

The “sinner’s prayer” is simply the first step. It demonstrates one’s conviction of sin, repentance and turning away from sin toward the blood of Jesus for the forgiveness of one’s sins. A “true conversion” is measured by one’s continued obedience to the initial commitment one has made to following Christ which requires perseverance to the very end of our lives. Jn 3:16 is often portrayed as a one-time belief which is sufficient for eternal life. However the Greek word for “believes” in this verse is a present tense verb better translated as “believing.” Thus one must continue believing in order to have eternal life. Same with Heb 5:9 as the word “obey” is a present tense verb translated as “obeying.” A Christian must continue to obey the Lord in order to have eternal life. If belief or obedience ceases in a Christian’s life, salvation is not assured of.
Jesus’ answer to the rich young ruler is instructive for us today. If the rich young ruler were to walk down the church aisle in response to an altar call, probably every single pastor would have no problem leading him in the “sinner’s prayer.” Jesus obviously didn’t do this but instead required that the rich man first give up and sell all he had in order to follow Christ. Eternal life is a free gift, but it is costly. True conversion requires and is measured by the sacrifice and death of the self-life in order to walk in the new-life.

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 1:41 PM

Amen! I agree that the “sinner’s prayer” is an awesome first step. I agree with what you have written.

Carol
Carol
Member
September 8, 2016 9:37 AM

Peggy A,
You are exactly correct! Finding a church with those credentials is very difficult in this age of “the sleeping church.” I firmly believe this is why the Lord in dreams and visions in this day, is calling the remnant OUT of Babylon. May we each be wise, studying to show ourselves approved. Shalom

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 10:02 AM

Amen, Carol.
I believe that’s where House Churches (some in operation now) and the invisible underground church will come into being. The visible church will eventually be obviously apostate.

stuart
stuart
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September 8, 2016 10:14 PM

I share your opinion Peggy. I believe that is why the “church” is no longer mentioned after Rev. 3. The church [organization] becomes apostate but that saints who are the scattered and faithful remnant are referred to throughout the rest of the book of The Revelation.

Scott
Scott
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September 12, 2016 8:11 AM
I attend a church that preaches the “selected” word. Our pastor teaches the tough principles…about sex (premarital, homosexual & etc), wives faithful service with husband, & etc. But he does not mention the spiritual gifts…speaking in tongues, interpreting of tongues, prophesy, visions, miracles, and etc. I asked him about tongues and he defensively replied that he has seen it “faked” too many times over the years. And I am like soooo…won’t they pay that price if they are boasting? And the church is your typical don’t teach anything that might make people uncomfortable. I have prayed about finding another church…but I believe the Lord has laid this church out to be part of my “ministry”. First this is the church my adopted daughter asked me to attend…the church of my “resurrection” from my lost years. I have led two different bible studies which have opened doors to speaking about the spiritual gifts and about end time prophesy. Most people get “deer in the headlights” looks when I speak about this stuff. But I now have about 8 to 10 people (and growing) that I now converse with about the spiritual gifts and end time prophesies. Since I don’t get everything I personally need from my church…I turn to other avenues…Z3, Robert Morris, Patricia Green, Sid Roth, Irving Baxter, Elijah List, TruNews, All News Pipeline, Christian radio & TV, and Wednesday night bible study with neighboring church that does teach these principles. I keep “bumping” my pastor along with my thoughts…he is considering getting a cross tattoo…I sent him several passages and gave my rationale against the tattoos…he hasn’t gotten them yet….so I am hopeful he has taken this under greater consideration…amongst other things. But if I (we) can’t convince other “Christians” to seek the full word of the Bible…what good… Read more »
James Bailey
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September 12, 2016 9:22 AM

Thanks for sharing this awesome testimony Scott.

Corrine
Member
September 12, 2016 8:29 AM

Wow Scott, I respect you for staying at your church.. It’s not easy to go against the crowd.. If the Lord has shown you this is what he wants for you, then He will help you and enable you to do this! I’m in a situation right now at my church, I’m part of the leadership. I and a few other
Seasoned Christians have felt the pastor needs some correction. Not fun for me to bring this up in meetings but Praise God, I’m seeing the start of change. Pastor is not in moral failure or anything like that but needs some correction. But most Christians nowadays run from tough situations instead staying in them and being a positive force for change. Stay where you are called brother. Blessings,
Corrine

Scott
Scott
Member
September 12, 2016 8:47 AM

Corrine…bless you for stepping into leadership! It can definitely set you up for attacks. That is my next step. We have some Board members that will be retiring in the next couple of years…will volunteer to serve.

Corrine
Member
September 12, 2016 9:18 AM

Thanks Scott. Yes I’m a board member , oh joy.. This has been one of the most difficult situations I have been in. Im not one to enjoy confrontation , and we definitely have had some .. But I do feel the Lord has placed me in this position and is using me to bring about change. The Lord cares about His sheep… So if you feel the Lord is asking you to serve on your church board, go for it !! Sounds like the Lord has great things in mind for you and your church.

Scott
Scott
Member
September 12, 2016 9:52 AM

Confrontation doesn’t bother me…I have served on various secular boards and committees in my past…but I have always been taught…if you don’t like something…then do something about it. Getting on the Board is my next step with this church…thanks and God Bless!

Peggy A.
Member
September 12, 2016 10:10 AM

Yes, it’s much better to act than to complain.
“Complain and remain OR Praise and be Raised.”

Better than acting according to our own human reasoning is acting according to the leading of the Holy Spirit. Some things that seem “good” to our reasoning minds are not what the Holy Spirit has planned for us to do at that time.

One powerful tool to get in touch with that: Book, DVD, CD’s
“4 Keys to Hearing the Voice of God” by Mark Virkler.
He has a web-site and there are some free introductory short videos on basic principles of this which the Lord showed Him from some Scripture in the Book of Habakkuk.

I would HIGHLY recommend it to anyone.

Peggy A.
Member
September 12, 2016 11:31 AM

For anyone that would like to listen to a truly uncompromising Bible-believing pastor, here is Pastor Charles Lawson from Tennessee. He brings tremendous insight into current times.
Truly educational and empowering:

http://pastorcharleslawson.org/

Peggy A.
Member
September 12, 2016 10:29 AM

Scott,
You could very well be there on assignment, and I would say continue to be “light” there. As long as you feel that you are getting some response to your efforts, that is good. Better than that, would be as long as the Holy Spirit continues to guide you to be there, I would stay and say what He tells you to say and do. (Hearing His Voice; being in 2-way communication with the Spirit of God.

We do have the responsibility of individual discernment and should never turn our eternal salvation to the hands of any pastor. You are correct in seeking on your own in your free time.

I have found the best source of inspiration is daily Bible Reading. I have tried reading my Bible daily (about 24 pages a day) cover to cover. This is not to replace Bible study, but was a specific spiritual tool given to the author of “Heaven Rules” by Faye Aldridge (published in 12/2012). This exercise “jump-started” my relationship to God tremendously, and led to many divine appointments, revelations, and manifestations in the Spirit. I will never be the same for having invested my time in reading the Bible cover to cover in less than 90 days!!

Some may say, “but that’s a religious exercise,” and we are not to be in bondage to a spirit of religion or rules.

I will answer: “TO LATE!! I ALREADY HAVE REAPED THE AWESOME BENEFITS!!!” (NO-ONE CAN CONVINCE ME THAT IT DOESN’T WORK!!0

Scott
Scott
Member
September 12, 2016 11:00 AM

I believe in only what the Bible says…that is why I always ask on these discussions…what does the Bible say? Much is open to interpretation…so I rely on my own discernment…my heart knows. I am on my second reading of the Bible for this year…I purchased a Jewish study Bible and have just started…finished Genesis. Another Sid Roth episode said English translations from Greek don’t always reveal the true meaning of God’s word…plus I need better understanding of Jewish customs…Jesus, Paul, Peter & etc were all Jewish. Thanks for the good word!

Marie
Marie
Member
September 7, 2016 12:49 AM

That’s the truth!

Matt Wilson
Matt Wilson
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September 9, 2016 2:06 AM

With respect, what you write makes sense on cursory review, but following a thorough review of the New Testament in particular, I must take a bit of exception.

John makes it clear in I John 3 that people who believe in Christ — who are born of God — do not continue in sin. This is because the seed of God is inside them. Moreover, Paul teaches that anything that is not of faith is sin (Rom. 14:23). Hence the reason Jesus states in John 16 that the Holy Spirit will convict people of sin because they do not believe in Christ. Faith in Christ and sin, therefore, are mutually exclusive.

Accirdingly, preaching about sin and judgment is less efficacious than preaching about faith, hope, and love. Here is further proof:

Paul goes into great detail in Romans 1 about the sinful state of humanity. He says in verse 32, “Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” In other words, Paul notes how these sinful people do not repent when faced with the reality of God’s wrath. BUT IN THE NEXT CHAPTER Paul speaks of how the goodness of God leads to repentance. (2:4).

So if knowing God’s wrath and judgment doesn’t change people, but if knowing God’s goodness does change people, then it stands to reason that God’s grace and love should be preached more than God’s judgment. (Assuming, of course, that repentance is the aim of preaching.)

James Bailey
Admin
September 9, 2016 5:22 AM

If God’s people have no problem with sin, then why does God instruct His people to turn from their wicked ways? The following verse specifically identifies it is “My people” who must turn from their wicked ways.

If My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:14)

I believe you have resorted to human reasoning to justify a compromise with sin and turned away from proclaiming the true gospel, which is the message of repentance, the same message preached by John the Baptist and Jesus Christ.

Lottie
Lottie
Member
September 10, 2016 1:27 AM

Jesus preached repentance to faith in Himself. The OT treatise actually pointed t th same……Abraham is th example……his faith was counted as Righteousness. Same today after the Cross sacrifice.

James Bailey
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September 10, 2016 3:36 AM
When we repent and turn to God, our inner man, which is our spirit man, is born again, made alive to God. At that moment God credits righteousness to our account, but that is only the beginning of our journey because our spirit man is only one part of us. We also have a body and a soul, which is our mind, our will, and our emotions. God requires us to maintain our right standing with Him by aligning our body and soul with our spirit, which means we must choose to align our actions with our faith in order to demonstrate what we believe. Otherwise, our faith is dead because it is not backed up by our works (James 2:17). Without faith, it is impossible to please God and impossible to be saved (Romans 10:9-11, Hebrews 11:6). The idea that we are somehow guaranteed to go to heaven because we prayed a salvation prayer is a lie that has cost many people their eternal life. The prayer of salvation is an essential first step, and if we died right afterwards we would be saved, but most of us don’t die at that time. For those who continue living, changes are not optional. God requires obedience to maintain our right standing with Him, which is proven by the words of Jesus when He warned there would be many people who call themselves Christians (they call Jesus their Lord) but they will not be allowed to enter into heaven because they did not do the will of God (Matthew 7:21-23). Salvation is more than just believing and more than just talking. God requires obedience to His will. Instead of trusting in a false hope based on a one-time prayer, the Bible tells us to work out our salvation with fear and… Read more »
Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 8:05 AM

Brilliant analysis.

One more thing I have previously thought about in regard to the word “works” is that our Salvation is not based on “works” but wholly on the Finished Work of Christ on the Cross, and our faith and trust in that. (You have detailed that ongoing process really well.) Not one of us can enter Heaven on our own merit, no matter how many and fine good works (they are as filthy rags). Each one of us would ALWAYS fall short. No one could make it!

BUT, I agree with your analysis and what you have said in quoting the Book of James. I think the “works” that he is referring to are “works”/action in direct response to our born-again and daily maturing nature.YES, “works”/actions in that sense are absolutely required.

Otherwise, it would be like (for example) saying over and over “I believe in that chair. I believe it will support me. I love to sit in it. It’s my favorite chair….I gather with a group of special friends every Sunday to sing about the chair….we like to observe its color and fabric together, it’s inspiring…….WITHOUT EVER SITTING IN IT!!!
YES, the ACTION/ “work” of sitting in is is REQUIRED to go together with the constant faith profession in the chair or it is indeed the “letter” without the “Spirit”!!

…..just thinking out loud…..

James Bailey
Admin
September 10, 2016 10:11 AM

Good point Peggy. There are ditches on both sides of the road. Faith without works is dead, but works without faith is also dead.

Tammy
Tammy
Member
September 9, 2016 7:54 AM

Matt, respectfully our current churches talk all about God’s LOVE LOVE LOVE and SIN abounds everywhere!!!! It HAS to be a balanced message of sin, holiness, repentance and love…….

Ole Sorensen
Ole Sorensen
Member
September 9, 2016 8:36 AM

Lack of repentance is really unbelief.

stuart
stuart
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September 9, 2016 1:39 PM

If I understand your argument correctly you are saying that those who are truly in Christ will not continue in sin. Therefore conviction of sin is for the unbeliever; not the believer. If that is the case, then why would Paul issue his stern warning specifically to the brethren in Rome in Rom 8:13? He warns the brethren that if they are living according to the flesh, they will die. Paul warns about spiritual death; not physical death here since everyone dies physically – regardless of of how we live our lives. Furthermore, Paul employs a conditional statement indicated by the word “IF.” Believers have a choice: IF they choose to live according to the flesh, they will die. On the other hand IF they choose to live according to the Spirit and put to death the deeds of the flesh, they will live. Paul’s warning cannot be construed to be referring to unbelievers as they are unregenerated and are incapable of living according to the Spirit; can only live according to the flesh and hence incapable of choice.
Based on this, we see that it is not true that those who are in Christ will always choose to not continue in sin. Paul’s warning is precisely aimed at those believers who do choose to walk in sin. While faith in Christ and sin are mutually exclusive; it remains incumbent upon each believer to choose to walk along the narrow path that leads to life and not along the broad path leading to destruction. Respectfully, if God’s wrath and judgment doesn’t change people as you assert then Paul’s warning is irrelevant and a waste of time.

Peggy A.
Member
September 10, 2016 8:11 AM

“John makes it clear in I John 3 that people who believe in Christ — who are born of God — do not continue in sin. This is because the seed of God is inside them.”

I just read that passage the other day, and somehow I think that John could really be referring to the spirit-man being born again.

However, we know that our soul realm (mind, will, and emotions) are NOT saved. We continue to sin in that realm and will likely continue until our last breath. That is why we need to “work out our salvation with fear and trembling.” This is the process that James Bailey has detailed so brilliantly below.

Adam S.
Member
September 6, 2016 5:13 PM

Man…it’s sad to see it come to pass — but many in this nation have been asking for it.

I mean, they’ve already infiltrated the schools to the point where they’re pushing TRANSGENDERISM on school children! What vile filth! And many so-called members of the Church (I’m looking at you, liberal denominations) have been approving of this, also.

*sigh*

TomP
TomP
Member
September 6, 2016 9:13 PM

Adam,

Having 3 children under 11 years old, I thought I’d be able to sneak under the radar for a while regarding answering questions about transgenderism. That idea ended today when my third grader returned home from the first day of school and shared that, she has a new, “girl” in her class that dresses like a boy and wants to be referred to as a boy. The conversation was a bit awkward as you can imagine as I certainly wasn’t prepared for it right off the bus. I didn’t even dare ask yet what bathroom arrangements were made for this new “girl” as I didn’t want to put anymore confusion on my child. What a huge change in this world in just the last 10 years! There is certainly a need for follow up conversation(s) with my daughter after I get some more information on how this is being addressed in the school and after I brush up on the best way to handle the conversation with an impressionable eight year old.

Blessings!

Ken Roberts
Ken Roberts
Member
September 6, 2016 9:51 PM

If at all possible, I suggest you take your children out of the public schools and homeschool them or if possible put them in private school. It’s not easy, but it’s worth it. I homeschool my daughter and don’t regret it. If I left her in public school I’m SURE I would.

Carol
Carol
Member
September 7, 2016 12:23 AM

Yes, the little ones shouldn’t have to deal with these adult issues at such a young age. They should be children! I took mine out of the government system. I first chose Christian school and later homeschooled then until college. I don’t regret giving my children my time and attention. They are strong young adults now. Taking a stand is important.

TomP
TomP
Member
September 6, 2016 11:17 PM

Ken,

My wife and I have discussed this but do need to have more serious discussions. At this time, I’m more for it than my wife is.

With the kids coming home each day and being relatively young, we do have more control as to what their belief structure is as we can see and talk to them most of their waking day. What I’ve been really shocked at seeing is some our friends kids coming back home after their first or second year of college!? Oh my…what radical changes can happen to generally good kids when they are away from parental oversight/control.

Cam
Cam
Member
September 7, 2016 8:03 AM
I have an 11 year old daughter and a 6 year old son. Last spring, I felt an urgency to get my daughter out of the public school system. With her going into middle school (this school year) and with the Obama administration trying to force schools to allow kids to chose which bathroom they would use and knowing it will only get worse from here (in the public schools) I felt a burden to get her out. Knowing this decision might stress my wife out and not knowing anything about homeschooling or the cost of a private Christian school i started seeking the Lord and we both began research on what our options were. By mid-summer, we felt the Lord leading us to a christian school that is based on the university model. This is where the student goes to school 2 or 3 days a week and stays home the remaining 2 or 3 days a week. My wife is a nurse and works part-time….2 nights a week. So, with her schedule is does make this more doable. So far, i really like the christian school – university model approach….it’s a combination of school and home-school. My daughter goes to school two days a week and is home 3. Next year in 7th grade she will go 3 days a week and stay home 2. It was an adjustment for all of us the first couple of weeks but now everything is going pretty good. On the days she stays home, my daughter starts doing her schooling around 8 am….all of her homework is printed out. Her first subject is Bible study and then she has devotion and she journals and takes notes what she reads. All subjects are christian based. I have been in-between jobs now since… Read more »
Joseph Secola
Joseph Secola
Member
September 7, 2016 11:51 AM

Cam – Congratulations to you and your wife on doing the right thing for your children. Most Christian parents will not sacrifice like this for their children. Glory be to JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD!

Chris
Member
September 7, 2016 9:31 PM

Ken, I am not knocking your position. I and my wife talk to our kids about all these issues and I like what my son said, “If a person can look at themselves in a mirror and still not tell who they are then they need help, lots of help!”
I work in the public schools as a custodian and we need to be light in serious darkness (NOT THAT TRANSGENDERISM ISN’T a serious issue). We can not run from every fight. Elijah ran from Jezbell and when God asked Elijah why are you here? Elijah said jezabell wanted to kill him. and that he was the only one zealous for the Lord. Go promptly told him there were 7,000 believers who had yet to bow a knee to the baals. This is my summary Didn’t Paul tell us to put on the full armor of God so that we can take a stand against the devil’s schemes? The church is so quick to run from issues. Whether it be work, church or school or sports, sooner or later our kids are going to be confronted with the issue and we have to train them to stand firm with the full armor on. We need the Holy Spirit to guide our every step and word. All we are being asked to do is to “Stand Firm” Some day our children will have to take a stand for themselves. Teach them how now so that the stand will be easier later when we are not around.

just my simple thoughts,

blessings

Ken Roberts
Ken Roberts
Member
September 7, 2016 9:42 PM

It was just a suggestion to protect children. If my children were elementary age, I might agree with you to a certain extent. But their teenagers. I just don’t want my daughter to have to change or shower in front of a boy who thinks he’s a girl and have a bunch of reprobates protect his so-called right to be a girl, while not giving a rip about my daughter’s rights or any other actual girl’s rights. I’m well aware of the importance of having my children live in babylon. They’re probably wiser, smarter and braver than most adults I know. But I choose not to put my daughter in unnecessary, potential danger and make her share a locker room with some kid who doesn’t know what sex he is. We’re living Romans 1:28. It’s only gonna get worse.

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 6, 2016 9:27 PM

Dear Jesus! Please give Tom wisdom to know just the right thing from your heart to say to his beautiful children Amen.

TomP
TomP
Member
September 6, 2016 10:05 PM

Jeff,

Thank you for that, much appreciated!

Interestingly, this past weekend I played in a couples golf outing with my wife and two other couples (six on a team). On the course, one of the par three holes had a closest to the pin contest for men and on another, much shorter hole, there was a closest to the pin for women. One of the other gentleman we were playing with cracked a joke and stated, “I identify as a woman right now, so I want to play this shorter par three as a woman so I have a better chance to win.” There was some nervous chuckling right after he said that, but it hit me pretty quickly that, someday soon he may be right.

It’s not inconceivable that someday fairly soon, they may make something as simple as the golf closest to the pin contest holes non-genderspecific, or eliminate them all-togehter for purposes of political correctness. Amazing how soon it was after that event that I was faced with a real life situation.

God, please have mercy on us as you send your correction on humanity!

Thanks for not being politically correct in your preaching! Blessings!

Peggy A.
Member
September 6, 2016 11:06 PM

This is so sad to hear. I think this whole issue is probably planned by the global elite (with satan controlling them) to try to break down/ destroy God’s building block of society, the family……one man and one woman in marriage, including their children.

Satan must love all the confusion. I don’t believe that God will be much longer in judging this wicked nonsense. The children are precious and impressionable and it is just so wrong for them to be subjected to this ungodliness!!

I am a former public school teacher that saw about 600 students per week for 36 years. This grieves me so very much. I don’t think I’d be able to stand to be teaching now. I would have to resign.

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 12:47 PM

I taught music and was forced to call the Christmas Program a “Holiday Program.” After that, I had to eliminate any songs that referred to Jesus’ birth. Then, I was told I had too many “Christmas songs” and had to cut down on them. (Christmas songs meant Santa Claus songs.)

I retired just in time. I’m sure they’ll be requiring “gay” and “transgender” songs soon. That would be way too much for me. The “Christmas” part tore me up enough as it was.

Adam S.
Member
September 6, 2016 10:15 PM

Hello Tom,

Are you bringing your children up in the Word of God? I ask this because they really do need to be equipped, in this hour.

I Corinthians 14:33 states that God is not [the author] of confusion. I would very much recommend (if you’re not doing so already) praying over them every day and teaching them how to pray over their classrooms every day, also (they can do this in their mind; as opposed to speaking out-loud). Even that young classmate of theirs should be prayed for, also.

The devil is unleashing a full-out assault on the schools.

TomP
TomP
Member
September 6, 2016 11:05 PM
Adam, Yes brother! Absolutely! I pray over my children nightly as they go to bed and include Joel 2:28 and Acts 2:17 every night amongst our other prayers. We encourage our children to say additional prayers on their own after we leave the room and listening in sometimes, I hear them pray mostly for their friends and their grandparents. We also encourage them to seek Jesus first when they are facing a problem or even to thank Him when they are feeling good. My wife has put specific large letter bible verse decals on the walls of our home so they see the word written each day including the 10 commandments. We constantly speak about Jesus in our home and often times it is my children who bring Him up and have questions regarding how He relates to something that happened in their day. Recently we spent several days discussing heaven and hell and what it truly takes to get in one and stay out of the other. I wasn’t shy about sharing the horrors of hell with them and there are endless video/audio teaching aids on youtube….funny enough, it’s easier to find more good videos on hell than there is heaven (maybe 1 Cor 2:9?). We are just now starting to memorize Ephesians 6:10-18 ….it’s kind of cool as what kid wouldn’t want to learn about armor and warriors! The challenge will be getting them to understand which role each part of the armor plays in keeping them safe. My eldest is born again and my two others are close IMO. I whole-heartedly agree with you that it’s the children who are currently the biggest target. We live in a neighborhood without much regard for a Holy God and it’s going to be a real eye-opener as God begins… Read more »
Adam S.
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September 7, 2016 11:45 AM

Amen Tom, it sounds like you are doing an outstanding job as spiritual leader of the household!

May the Lord keep you and your house close to Him in this hour 🙂

Paisley
Paisley
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September 7, 2016 10:54 AM

I can’t believe the parents that embrace this in their children. My cousins son wanted to be a girl and wear his sisters clothes and shoes. His mother didn’t allow it outside of the house. He’s grown up now and is a normal male who dates women. I think it’s a phase some kids go through. My granddaughter wanted to be a kitty. Maybe we should have gotten her a litter box and fed her cat food. Smh

mem
mem
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September 9, 2016 3:09 PM

That is really sad TomP. Elementary school age kids are so at risk. I don’t see any way out of that exposure mess other than homeschooling. Kids are just so impressionable and if they go to a school and spend most of the day there most of the year with “pop culture peers and teachers”, they will inevitably fall victim to “peer corruption” to either a lesser/greater degree, but to whatever degree it will happen. Just imagine if your third grader decided not to even mention it to you, but instead just took it for granted that it was normal and immediately internalized it?. Imagine what could/will be next. You can’t nip in the bud what you don’t even know is happening. Schools and pop culture kids, in this day and age, in my opinion, just can’t be trusted with the children God gives us if we ever hope to raise them to be holy and not just some homogenized/lowest common denominator of what passes for pop culture kids today….especially when they are so young and fragile spiritually
We will pray for your family and what y’all are facing

Jeff Byerly
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September 6, 2016 6:20 PM

Adam, yes it is sad to see this come to pass. I am an American and have lived here all of my life. It makes me sick and I weep and pray for people to wake up and repent but very few do. I pray they wake up once theses terrible things begin to happen, this is the whole purpose behind God allowing them to happen.

Peggy A.
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September 7, 2016 12:42 PM

A liberal denomination actually sounds like an oxymoron…….like “beautiful witch.” Don’t get me wrong. They definitely do exist!

How can they call themselves “Christian” if they embrace concepts that are clearly anti-Bible. If they would take the time to read the Bible themselves from cover to cover, I think the Holy Spirit would make things clear to them.

Adam S.
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September 7, 2016 2:10 PM

I have “been around the block” with such, in online exchanges.

When it comes down to it, I’d say that their belief system breaks down into being like a humanist sundae with a sprinkling of Christian religion on top: they, most commonly, conflate Jesus’ message of love to that of Aleister Crowley’s “Law of Thelema” (“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.”).

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 10:45 AM

Yes, secular humanism and post-modernism.
We are now in a post-Christian culture.

SeanC
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September 8, 2016 3:55 PM

Super random (not sure where I can post to talk about this): I know that many people have received visions, dreams, words of Obama being the Antichrist. But I still feel like he is not THE Antichrist. Anyone else feeling the same way?

I’ve always felt that the Antichrist was going to be a very handsome, young man, someone that will appear super to the world. He will solve problems, he will have an aura, a power to him. Except that it is evil power.

Obama is failing miserably at every turn. Everything he does is a joke. He is not handsome, nor young, he’s already aged quite a bit. He certainly is not super, and I don’t think many people see him as something different. His renown with other world leaders isn’t even that great either. People like him because he’s democratic and they just don’t understand how leftist policies are destroying the United States. I feel like he is just a very strong antichrist, a precursor. Really, the only people that seem to be deceived into believing he’s a good leader are democrats.

Maybe my expectations are too ideal. Any thoughts?

James Bailey
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September 8, 2016 9:46 PM

The antichrist will have a supernatural attraction because the Bible tells us the world will follow him (Revelation 13:3) and worship him (Revelation 13:8), but there are no scriptures telling us he will be physically attractive or young. The Hollywood version of the antichrist is not the same as the Bible version, so if we want to know the truth we have to turn off the movies and dig into the scriptures.

The other thing to keep in mind is these scriptures are thousands of years old. Many people waited to see these things, but never did because it was not for their generation. We are now seeing the fulfillment, but only the very beginning of it, so we must be patient because the full story will take many more years to unfold. The antichrist does not fulfill all of the prophecies right away. It starts when he receives a crown and goes forth conquering and to conquer (Revelation 6:1). His first crown empowers him to rule over one nation, but that is just the beginning as he uses it to gain more power and eventually rises to ruler of the world government, economy, and religion.

ellemarie
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September 8, 2016 8:59 PM

Yes, I too, believe he is not the antichrist. The antichrist has not yet evidenced but should be on the scene in the next 10 years. While I don’t have a word from the Lord on this, I did get a word on where the antichrist will be from, and none of the possible birthplaces of BHO fit – lol. The Lord gave me a word about Donald Trump many years ago – late 1980’s, and Trump will become president. It will be either BHO or DT who move to Europe and become President of Europe, not European Union. While originally, I thought it was BHO, as events have occurred, it could be either. God bless you and yours.

SeanC
SeanC
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September 8, 2016 9:30 PM

I’m open to hearing both sides. I’m just not seeing how Obama can fulfill the role. Even his speech is not smooth, he is not charming or charismatic in any sense. He just fulfills the puppet role Big Banks and Big Corps need. It’s almost like he’s trying to be the Antichrist but he’s just a fluke. I don’t know. Who knows maybe that is part of it?

What was the word you received on where the Antichrist is from?

Katie Troutman
Katie Troutman
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September 9, 2016 3:03 PM

Sean, it’s wise to seek God for yourself. You do this according to His Word. Keep asking, keep knocking and keep seeking! For all who ask, will receive and all who knock, well Jesus says the door will be opened to that person and to those who are seeking Jesus promises that they WILL find. To EVERY question ever asked this scripture contains the treasure!! It’s one key to the secret place. God himself will answer you! He really will. As you draw near to Him , He will,draw near to you. His Word is such a supernatural , exciting treasure to be found by all who will. It’s great to study from people but I want to urge you to go to the King for yourself! His promises are the same for EVERYONE and He will answer you. Just remember to keep asking, knocking and seeking every single day and hello come through for you because His Word is TRUTH and then you’ll know for yourself and have your own words from the Lord. Exciting! Pray in the Holy Spirit a lot too! May feel like your not getting anywhere but remember what His Word says. He doesn’t lie!!!

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 11:32 PM

Sean,
I believe it is well worth exploring LINDA CLAY’S (Z3news Author) revelations about the anti-christ on her blog. In addition, you can search “antichrist” here on z3 and come up with an astounding number of revelations about this subject, all pointing to “o.”

https://believeacts2blog.wordpress.com/category/antichrist/

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 11:36 PM

Here’s something to consider, too, in regard to “antichrist” as “o”—–
“God uses the foolish things to confound the wise.”
Why would God make it PERFECTLY logical and obvious as to “o’s” identity as a.c.? Our discernment would not be stretched and activated if God just handed us the answer right up front to this “test.”

Huge hints are being given, but again, remember “God uses the foolish things to confound the wise.”

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 11:43 PM

Also, check this page. Click on the Sermon/Lesson “Mark of the Beast.” Go to about the 17 minute mark and hear some very interesting and very compelling clues about “o” as a.c.

http://pastorcharleslawson.org/revelation-bible-study

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 9, 2016 9:47 AM
Sean, All the pieces must fit according to Scripture. Please forgive me for being a bit long winded on this issue, but here is what I struggle to understand: The Beast will arise out of the bottomless pit. We are told this twice in Rev 17:8 and 11:7. The Meaning of the Woman and the Beast Rev 17:7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.[c] 9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. 12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are… Read more »
Bob Adolph
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September 9, 2016 11:26 AM

Ed W, the beast out of the bottomless pit is a demon spirit that indwells the (man) anti-Christ. The anti-christ is a man, a spirit and a territory. He rules the last of 8 territories or kingdoms that God has used to chasten Israel since her creation. They are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medes-Persia, Greece, Rome, (future) Revised Rome and (future) anti-Christ’s kingdom when he takes control of Revised Rome. We are currently watching Revised Rome, a confederation of ten countries, take shape. Revised Rome will consist of ten nations that come from within the Old Roman Empire represented by the 10 toes of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in Daniel C.2 and by the ten horns of the lion which which is the 4th beast (Rome) in Daniel’s dream. On that lion’s (old Roman Empire) head also is a “little horn” that comes out of the 10 horns who is the coming A/C.
Obama does make a good A/C in that he is a socialist, a man of color, an excellent speaker, has Muslim roots and has done much to bring America down and under the authority of the U.N. All of this appeals to the WORLD in general. He and Erdogan are top candidates but Rebecca Sterling has said neither of these two are the A/C who she has seen in her “mind-meld”. I expect Spain, France, Italy, Greece and one more country to drop out of the European Union as per Terry Bennett and join five Muslim countries to form a Revised (not re-vived) Roman Empire from which the Little horn, the Assyrian will come.

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 12, 2016 1:21 PM

The commentaries on Rev 17:8 indicate that there is more than one “Beast” implied. The beast that the woman rides is likely the beast out of the sea (Rev 13), due to its diversity with 7 heads and 10 horns, and is probably the lineage of the Papacy. There is an ecclesiastical aspect of the beast, and the Papacy did cease to exist for a time period, before being resurrected in 1929 by Mussolini with the establishment of the Vatican.

Rev 13 seems to confirm this, using the same terminology as in Dan 2 and 7.

This subject is too diverse and technical for any lengthy discussion here, as some commentaries and articles are pages long, with various background and language discussions on Rev 17:8, et al.

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 11, 2016 7:32 PM

Bob,

Here’s the thing. Verse 8 says they will SEE the beast that was, is not and yet is. So if they see the beast, does that indicate that when he comes up out of the pit, he will have been known as a figure from the past, and can prove it? Just saying.

8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

There are other points also, like switching to a man, then a territory, then a demon, etc. Especially since the beast is cast alive into the lake of fire, along with the false prophet. Is the demon visible? Will there be a physical tranformation or shape shift? Will the antichrist not be indwelt by Satan? Why does he need a demon to precede him in that capacity?

This is not all wrapped up in a neat package for us, but all must fit. He is also the eight, and yet is “of the seven”. This again points to a previous figure. vs 11. Maybe my reasoning is to much of a simplification, but I am taking the Scriptures at face value. I have done research on these verses from various sources, but perhaps I need to do more. Some do suggest that the beast out of the sea with the heads and horns is a political system, but the beast from the pit operates as a man indwelt by Satan.

Bob Adolph
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September 12, 2016 2:25 PM

Ed W., He is the eighth and of the seven because this refers to the Prince of Grecia that empowered Alexander the Great and Antiochus Epiphanes as explained in Daniel. Just as Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the Jewish Temple so will this demon possessed A/C. The A/C will be possessed by this Prince of Persia, not the Devil himself (a common misconception). In Rev.17:8-11 explains to John at his time that “five have fallen”, Egypt through Greece, “one is”, Rome, “and the other is not yet come”, that’s the coming ten nation confederation we can call Revised Rome “and continues a short space”, three and one half years. “And the beast that was (Greek Empire), and is not (Rome), “even he is the eighth”, (A/C)

All these beasts are empires and are not the woman that rises out of the EARTH, 13:11, who will work with the A/C during the last 3 1/2 years and promote Beast worship or worship of the A/C. This False Prophet and the ten kings of Revised Rome (first 3 1/2 years) will dump the harlot/whore of the first 3 1/2 years, 17:16. In the near future (first 3 1/2 years) the whore/harlot false religion will be a false religion, probably a hybrid of Islam, Judaism and Catholicism and be the religion of the Revised Roman Empire that “continues a short time.”

The Roan Empire won’t be “revived” but will be revised to a combination of ten countries within the old Roman Empire. This works nicely with Terry Bennett’s time line and prophecy.

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 10:27 PM

Bette Stevens (Z3news Author) stated that the anti-christ is present right now (although she didn’t name him in that video). She said when satan fully entered into him, that he shape-shifted into an image of Jesus similar to the Sunday School pictures of him. She also noted that NOBODY cared exactly who he was or where he came from at that point. They were just entranced with him.

(my idea: demonically entranced; lack of discernment and being truly rooted and grounded in Jesus Christ.)

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 6, 2016 5:59 PM
During a group prayer meeting in 1999, the Lord gave me an open vision of a quake sequence in southwest Missouri. Most of the visions given to me over the years have been closed visions or mental pictures or words spoken to me by the Lord. During this particular vision, I could still see the room and everyone in it, but the vision played out before me in the Spirit. I shared it with the group at that time, and it is was posted on at least one other web site, but many years ago. Open vision of Springfield earthquake – 6 hour warning I saw Springfield, or the area near that location in southwest Missouri from above, and it looked like an area of concentric rings moving out from Springfield or southwest Missouri. The corner area of the state. The Lord drew me closer and I saw the ground rolling like waves of the ocean, and on top of one of the waves was a pedestal clock, with the hands at 6:00 and then again at 12:00 and then at 6:00 and again at 12:00, which I interpret as a 6 hour time difference between a warning quake and a major quake. The “ground waves” went on for some time and I saw that a wide area was affected by the quake. I know nothing of the geological status of Springfield. I am simply relating what God gave me. I do not know if any fault lines run through the area or if it even matters. The Lord said 3 things would identify this quake: – It will be called the Springfield quake – It will be said audibly or in the newspapers, “The ground was like the waves of the ocean.” – There will be 6 hours between… Read more »
mem
mem
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September 7, 2016 7:32 PM
Hi Ed – That motion of the ground acting like ocean waves is key. I had a similar dream about the northwest where paved streets were rolling like waves. 4-8ft waves in amplitude! At the time I had the dream I had no idea that earthquakes could cause that phenomenon. Then I discovered they can and it is called liquefaction. Buildings cannot really survive liquefaction. Even the best earthquake resistant architecture will be decimated by extreme liquefaction. The only thing that might survive is pagoda based/single pole construction where the entire foundation of the building is build around a single large pole called a “Shinbashira”. Then all the levels/eaves are built around the shinbashira and have no contact with the ground. When major earthquakes come the idea is the shinbashira can move and keep the entire build intact, while the shinbashira can flex like a metronome. Still with liquefaction, the pole may sink into the ground like quick sand. Any construction with a concrete foundation or more than one point of contact with the ground will just be shattered. People just disappear into the ground like quicksand. It is hard to even imagine just how terrible and devastating this would be. It would make a garden variety 9.x, without liquefaction, seem like a blessing I say liquefaction is key, because I think it is a tell that it is really God speaking in a dream. The fact that most people, including myself did not even know about liquefaction unless they have seen it in a video or studied it, means quite likely it was a God dream. Even some of the most powerful earthquakes on record such as 9.x’s don’t actually produce liquefaction. It requires a certain type of earthquake motion (side to side, up and down, zigzag, etc), ground… Read more »
Carl Manning
Carl Manning
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September 8, 2016 3:22 AM
I once had an unusual vision of seeing wave patterns in the Earth. Many of my visions have been as real as life itself, but this vision was strangely different in that I saw it through shadows only. At the time of this vision back in 2009, I was living in Savannah, GA. As the vision begins, I am violently knocked off my feet and go flying up in the air and come smashing down to the floor on my back wincing in pain. As I am lying on the floor looking at the wall next to me, I can only see shadows of what is happening. I can clearly make out the shadow of dancing fire everywhere, but what really catches my curiosity is that I see the shadows of very tall southern pines moving up and down in a wave pattern. End of vision. This may be related to another vision I had while in Savannah. In this vision, I was walking through thick tall brush out in the woods. Judging by the color and deadness of the brush, it was around late Fall or early Winter. Suddenly, as I pulled back this thick, tall brush, I stopped dead in my tracks as I see fires over 10′ tall in a circular area that had to be about half of a football field in diameter. I was left with the impression that a meteorite had hit the Earth. Since these visions from 2009, I have read somewhere else that a prophet or watchman said that Georgia will experience many meteorites falling from outer space. Meteorites could definitely produce this devastating wavelike pattern in the Earth just as a stone produces waves in a pond and just as some rare earthquakes can produce liquefaction.
Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 8, 2016 10:00 AM

Wow mem! That is really interesting and confirming. Based on your dream and the message from Carl Manning’s reply below, the event may be an earthquake series or meteors. Yours and Carl’s are the first confirmations of the wave patterns that I have seen. Many thanks for sharing.

James Bailey
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September 6, 2016 11:00 PM

Thanks for sharing these awesome words Ed.

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 7, 2016 6:50 AM
I will go ahead and open up about some of the more significant visions the Lord has given me over the years. The one below and Springfield quake are the two most vivid and certain visions that the Lord has given me. We should test everything, and stay with the Word of God at all costs. ++++ Yellowstone Eruption – 2004 I lived in Michigan when I had this night vision, but returned to the southern state where my family is located in July 2004. I have had an unusual dream about a volcanic eruption. As a way of background, I was impressed to prepare an “escape suitcase” with necessary items of clothing and medical supplies, and to be ready to leave or flee suddenly. We have prepared such a suitcase for a 3 day trip or escape. This was about 6 months ago when the Lord told us to be ready. Now for the dreams, March 22, 2004: I was with my family in the mid-south when I saw a huge eruption of ash and steam come out of the ground, with fire and smoke and all sorts of emergency equipment headed to the region. I was amazed at the color and sounds and extreme height of the ash cloud. It looked like a pillar of dense smoke with flames at the base of the cloud. I yelled at my wife to get the “suitcase” because we had to go to escape the fury of this explosion. Then I woke up, with my heart pounding. It was very real. After about 15-20 minutes, I went to sleep again, and had the SAME DREAM, except the explosion was much more powerful and I heard in the background someone saying loudly, “Yellowstone has blown up!” The column of smoke was huge… Read more »
Richard
Richard
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September 7, 2016 9:42 AM

We very much appreciate you sharing Ed. Was there a safe area, or a hardest hit area?

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 7, 2016 5:24 PM

I only saw the area around Yelowstone, but the ash cloud was very high, so I assume a wide area will be affected. I did not see a safe area, as such, and I think the volatility of the eruption will be managed by the Lord. I also assume that the area around Yellowstone proper will be decimated.

michelle Gibson
michelle Gibson
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September 7, 2016 7:28 AM

I was shown the island of Vanuatu spilt in half. it started in the middle of the island and ran in both directions

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 7, 2016 7:56 AM

Michelle,

That area of the world has many fault lines, and I was shown many years ago that one day the island of New Zealand would be greatly affected by the “unzipping” of a oceanic fault line, due to a plate diving under another one. I saw a sliver of the fault line that looked very thin in one area and then the fault line opened up, creating a massive wave and flooding NZ, probably the northern island.

So, I agree that things in that area could be in for significant changes and destruction.

E.

Jeff Byerly
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September 6, 2016 6:13 PM

Thank you Ed for sharing!
In the order the Lord gave me the shaking comes first

Bob Adolph
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September 12, 2016 7:54 PM

Springfield, MO is the HQ of the AG Churches

Cali
Cali
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September 7, 2016 2:16 AM

Wow Ed

Ed W.
Ed W.
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September 7, 2016 7:24 AM

Cali,

True words from the Lord are usually very specific so that they can be tested. I have not been given timing, except on one or two occasions. It is rare for me. I am not sure why I am sending you this, except for some reason I thought maybe you needed to hear the word “specific”. Lord bless.

Francy
Francy
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September 7, 2016 10:58 AM

Ed w,

Actually I think that word is for me as well. Thank you. I believe this is what I needed to hear to share a word the Lord shared with me.
Thanks!

Christine Beadsworth
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September 7, 2016 7:41 AM
The Word teaches us that it is God’s kindness that leads us to repentance but we often have such a distorted understanding of what that kindness looks like. Strong discipline is also kindness and as this word describes, it is time for those who are fast asleep to be woken up very abruptly. For the remnant, we need to be ready with our lamps full of oil, as lighthouses that guide the searching to Him who is the true Light of the World. Dense darkness is unfurling rapidly on the earth but our God is a safe refuge. I was driving down the road past a place where I often fill my car with diesel. As I got nearer, I saw that it was no longer there – it had been completely leveled and the site contained nothing but a few small heaps of rubble! Then the Spirit said to me, “It is the same with My people and the internet. They have certain favorite places where they go to refuel when weary and their tanks are getting low. These are trusted sites which share truth, wisdom and encouragement and understanding of the times. However in the coming days, with stricter controls being imposed on free speech, many of these watering holes will suddenly disappear with no prior warning! Strategic sites are going to vanish overnight as they are taken down by those in power. If my people know of certain articles or teaching series which they are feeding on and learning from – and planning to go back to later, tell them they need to go and make a copy of them now. There is very little time left to stock their spiritual store-cupboards with nourishing food for the days of famine of the Word that lie directly ahead.Stock… Read more »
Sarah Tennessee
Sarah Tennessee
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September 7, 2016 8:05 AM

Christine, you are correct…many will lose their goto sites and feel forsaken. We must all have that personal Jesus relationship but also one with Holy Spirit. Looking at the Scripture 2 Cor 7:10 is a Holy “formula” but certainly a KEY to the Kingdom. Godly sorrow + Repentance, leading to (=) Salvation. Let me give a very personal example.

I was leading a good Christian life, fulfilling my role as a prophetic intercessor. One day as I was quietly worshipping at home, I felt Holy Spirit whisper to my heart “I AM more than a vapor, more than a ghost.” He pierced my heart with such revelation of my disrespect and lack of understanding of Who He is that I went to the floor face down. The bawling was deep and the tears flowed. I was there quite some time as He cleansed me of my wrong attitudes towards Him. It is something I will never forget and an example of the gift of Godly Sorrow. Only He can give us the deep level of sorrow where deep repentance occurs and thus another portion of my soul was saved. I got up from that late 1990s experience a different person. Holy Spirit has been so active in me since. He is always speaking, always revealing. These last two posts are such a call to His people, called by His Name as well as those seeking answers who have yet to find Jesus.

Peggy A.
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September 7, 2016 9:41 AM

Sarah,
Thank-you for sharing your valuable personal experiences.
I have a friend that received the revelation that the Holy Spirit was let out of the box (Holy of Holies in Heaven) at Pentecost as a precious gift to believers on earth, but today most people want to put Him back in a box.

This church age of Laodicea (it means “The People Rule”) really has the Holy Spirit in a box in general. That is a big part of the reason we are lukewarm.
We can accomplish NOTHING of true Kingdom value without Him or His anointing. He is such a gentleman and can be quenched easily. We must make a free-will decision to YIELD to Him.

After all, there are only two possible spirits available: The Holy Spirit, or unholy/demonic spirits. It’s a no-brainer. We need to welcome Him (The HOLY SPIRIT) with open and grateful arms!!

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 8:01 AM

Christine,
That’s a very good word. Also, everyone should read their Bibles daily and develop one-on-one communication with the Holy Spirit.

For the past 10 months or so, I have been part of a very productive and satisfying weekly 2 hour prayer/word of knowledge/worship/warfare group of about 8 followers of Jesus from various parts of the U.S. and a pastor from India. This weekly phone call meant a lot to me.

Just a few days ago, I received the sudden word that God was closing it down. There was no “good-bye” phone call. It was just suddenly “done.”
Of course I was very saddened by that, but we do know that critical times are coming and we need to get in training to work individually and directly with the Holy Spirit.

Perhaps this sudden group closing that I experienced just a few days ago also serves as a prophetic picture of what you, Christine, have just written about.
I know there is talk of a U.N. take-over of the U.S. internet on mid-night of September 31st. That date is fast approaching.

IF this site is taken down, the fellowship and information can remain locked in our hearts, minds, and spirits, regardless of if it still exists on the internet.
Z3 will be a valuable memory to strengthen us in all the days ahead until we finish our individual races, no matter how difficult.

We can always remember that we have a cloud of witnesses on Z3 and a cloud of witnesses in Heaven. That thought is very strengthening for potential times that we may feel totally alone. We really aren’t. Best of all, our Savior Jesus Christ will NEVER leave or forsake us no matter what the outer circumstances look like.

Christine Beadsworth
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September 7, 2016 8:09 AM

I so agree with you, Peggy. Our roots must be deep in the Rock of Ages and not in our brothers and sisters in Christ, no matter how blessed we are by their fellowship. We have to cleave to our Bridegroom…and that word ‘cleave’ means to become so one with something that it is impossible to separate the two. Only those fully in Christ and Christ in them will come through the coming days unscathed.Jesus prayed in John 17 that we would be made perfect in one- oneness and union – with Himself and the Father (if one reads His words in context)…and if we are fully one with Him, we automatically are one with the rest of the remnant, one in spirit worshiping at the golden altar before the throne. We see each other there 🙂

Mar R.
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September 8, 2016 3:57 PM

Christine, Just found your website and I am so very blessed! I needed these words today. So much confirmation for the visions the Lord has given me and encouragement in the midst of some “corrections” taking place too. Thank you!

Christine Beadsworth
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September 9, 2016 3:11 AM

Thank you Mar. It fills my heart with such joy when something the Lord has shown me can be a blessing to His Bride.

Peggy A.
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September 7, 2016 9:31 AM

Amen. Absolutely seek Him FIRST!!
Fellowship with like-minded believers is like the icing on the cake.

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 9:29 AM

Correction to my 4th paragraph…..there are 30 days in September, not 31.

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 7, 2016 11:52 AM

Christine the Lord spoke to me a few months back about this. He said that internet freedom would be the first to go. According to this article it could happen as soon as Sept30 when Obama gives control of the internet to the UN http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-internet-giveaway-to-the-u-n-1472421165

Christine Beadsworth
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September 8, 2016 6:04 AM

Yes, Jeff, that is when it will begin but I think it will probably be gradual and under stealth initially as final information is gathered about ‘offensive’ sites and then, like the recent ‘coup’ in Turkey in which some 1500 teachers and lecturers were removed from educational institutions overnight because of opinions expressed that were considered anti-government, a whole swathe of Christian sites will vanish.
When these incidents happened in Turkey, the Lord warned me that it was a model of the way in which the internet would be ‘swept clean’ of what they term ‘dissenters and radicals’. The people removed were unaware that they had been watched for some time. We however are not unaware of the enemy’s schemes and so must heed the Spirit’s warnings and prepare accordingly.

Jeff Byerly
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September 8, 2016 7:26 AM

What many do not quite understand is how absolute the power of God is in all things including websites etc. That ultimately God our Father will make the final determination of who HE chooses to protect and sustain vs. who  HE turns over to the devil to suffer. Based upon what is written in the scripture and what is revealed prophetically,  it clearly looks like the most obedient, God fearing and righteous of the true remnant Bride will be “miraculously” protected and sustained in the best interest of the mission of the Kingdom. And indeed that may include a point in time where God wants us “in the streets” and not on web sites. Praise Him. We shall see.

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 10:55 AM

Keep in mind, that a true remnant person COULD be captured and placed in a Fema Camp. God’s love, care, and protection would still be available. Perhaps a purpose in this would be so that the person could be a witness for Jesus in that Camp.

I am saying that because I know of such a person that has received that word many months ago personally, and knows that it awaits.

I know of another that has had a vision of being shot in the head after refusing to deny faith in Jesus Christ. Again, God knows what He is doing and He can use people as witnesses in a huge variety of ways. They may not ALL be doing extraordinary signs and wonders.

I’m saying this to state that no matter what something looks like to us, we are NOT FORSAKEN and must endure until the end. We can’t give up on God or ourselves no matter what! We must ALWAYS surrender to His Will and Trust Him completely.

Jeff Byerly
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September 8, 2016 12:23 PM

I have not told many people this but it fits here. Earlier this year while in my daily morning prayer time with the Lord, He gave me a short vision. I was lying on a table face up low and behold I saw Jesus standing on my left I was on His right, and I was in utter and complete extasy! Just then men started to tear off my right leg but I was starring into the eyes of My Savior and I did not feel a thing except pure joy and peace.
That is how every martyr feels when they give their life for Jesus, I know it! That is why Steven was not screaming in excruciating pain, he beheld His Lord seated at the right hand of the father and there is nothing on earth that can describe the feeling. It is truly beyond words.
Jesus is so awesome!

Peggy A.
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September 8, 2016 1:51 PM

Jeff,
Thanks for sharing that. I believe you are perfectly correct.
If I’m not mistaken, LINDA CLAY (Z3 author) tells of something along those lines in this post:

https://believeacts2blog.wordpress.com/2015/10/31/10-31-15-vision-of-the-guillotine/

Jeff Byerly
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September 8, 2016 2:53 PM

Yes Peggy I remember reading that. Actually her message was after my experience so it was a real confirmation me.

Christine Beadsworth
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September 8, 2016 8:24 AM

Yes, Jeff, I have a strong sense that for those the Lord protects, that remnant Bride, there will definitely be a move from international – or Internet sharing- to local, in the streets and places where He has us positioned geographically. That is why it is important to seek the Lord for His strategic positioning in these end times. He is well able to use ‘Philip’s transport’ to take us quickly on other assignments and then withdraw us when they are complete. There are exciting times ahead for those who are fully His and walking in the fear of the Lord!

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 8, 2016 8:40 AM

Christine, this is the most exciting time in history to live EVER! I thank Jesus that all of us were chosen for such a time as this! We just need to keep our eyes on Him and do what He says…Faith ,obedience, anointing and then comes the GLORY!

Peter Sotus
Peter Sotus
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September 8, 2016 8:41 AM

So good to see you on this site Christine! I have enjoyed your newsletter “Fresh Oil Releases” and your book “Beauty treatments for the Bride” for years.

Christine Beadsworth
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September 8, 2016 10:31 AM

tHANKS PETER. ONLY FOUND Z3 FAIRLY RECENTLY BUT HAVE BEEN MUCH ENCOURAGED BY THE CONFIRMATIONS i FIND HERE. ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS HEARING/SEEING THE SAME THING. WE ALL SEE IN PART AND NEED EACH OTHER TO COMPLETE THE PICTURE!

Peggy A.
Member
September 8, 2016 10:56 AM

Christine,
Do you have a link to your newsletter and for your book?

Christine Beadsworth
Member
September 9, 2016 3:07 AM

Hi Peggy. You can go to my website http://freshoilreleases.bootpages.com/ and all the links are there. I have the book you mentioned and a Daily Devotional as well and you can sign up for the newsletter or listen to podcasts. All downloads are free. This is the principle of the Kingdom. Buying and selling belong to Babylon. In the Kingdom, we freely receive revelation and freely give.
I pray you will be edified and encouraged through what you find there.

Peggy A.
Member
September 9, 2016 7:18 AM

Christine,
Thanks, and why didn’t I think to just click on your name to get to the site? Oh well, we’re all learning every day.

Peggy A.
Member
September 7, 2016 12:15 PM

Jeff,
Very interesting about the Lord speaking to you about internet freedom. Wow.

Jeff Byerly
Member
September 7, 2016 12:53 PM

Yes its on my blog somewhere but I couldn’t find it. I think He told me that in Feb but I could be mistaken.

Joseph Secola
Joseph Secola
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September 10, 2016 8:39 PM

For those with Mac computers, you can purchase in the App Store “Sitesucker” for $4.99. This will allow you to download the entire website. I just downloaded it for z3 and I am using it and it downloads not just the articles, but the comments as well.

Humble servant of the Lord Jesus
Humble servant of the Lord Jesus
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September 6, 2016 5:47 PM

I am a very private person and almost never make comments on websites but I just want to give this message to all of you. The world especially Babylon the Great have no idea what is about to happen in a very short period of time, most walk around completely blind and oblivious and are going to be caught completely off guard. Let us pray ‘Lord Jesus show your supreme righteousness but also show us your love and mercy’ In Jesus name, Amen.

Fay
Fay
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September 6, 2016 11:26 PM

I completely agree with you that most people are oblivious to what’s coming, it breaks my heart. I pray almost daily for mercy during judgement. I’m in Canada and I’m grieved to watch our nation falling to the enemy, I lift up both our countries regularly, God bless Z3.

Ken Harbeson
Ken Harbeson
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September 6, 2016 1:06 PM

Amen! Perfect word for the times we are in Jeff , thank you for your work in our Lord! I pray for mercy of America during judgement. Our ways are not his ways and I am clinging to the Lord every second of every day! Thank you Lord for your mercy and grace upon your people and I pray I am worthy! In Jesus name amen.

Jeff Byerly
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September 6, 2016 3:52 PM

Thank you Ken!
Yes Mercy during the Judgment is what we desire.
Here the cry of your people O Lord!

Sarah Tennessee
Sarah Tennessee
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September 6, 2016 1:12 PM

Amen!

sharon m
sharon m
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September 7, 2016 9:42 PM
With all the gross darkness and judgment coming upon us Gods Grace and His willingness to save to the utmost are so VERY real .A lot talk of the horrors of whats coming and u tube videos that show the multitudes in the pit of hell. I saw videos of people being plucked from the gates of hell ! Many probably saw the testimony of Ian McCormack an atheist who on his last breath turned to his Savior after God in His Great mercy showed him visions of the evils in his heart as he lay dying and how he needed to repent, God hears our prayers ! He had a praying mother,but even those who dont have a praying mother they have praying friends ,relatives ,co/workers ,neighbors. I am praying for a 92 year old man a WW2 vet and POW on Wake Island.I am his caregiver and have been talking with Ed and praying for him almost three years. He believes in God and thats about it at this point. He says he feels God wont take him because he killed people during the war. The enemy of his soul has lied to him his whole life,most of his life he lived a party type life style.I gave him the gospel and talk of Gods Amazing Grace,and told him the story of the slave trader John Newton who wrote the song Amazing Grace, Ed listens but has yet to surrender his heart to the Lord. He has had many close calls in his life could have died multiple times,but for some reason,(and I know the reason) he didnt die Please pray for Ed. also his wife Beverly and their son in his late 40s , I pray the lies of the enemy of his soul will be crushed… Read more »
Carl Manning
Carl Manning
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September 8, 2016 2:50 PM
I once went through a spell when I began to question my own salvation. The Lord then gave me a powerful vision. I was taken back in time to the day He was crucified. I was standing in Jerusalem somewhat far off from where the Lord was being whipped with a cat-of-9-tails. The Lord had only a loincloth on His body and was wearing a crown of thorns and blood was all over Him. Suddenly, it was like a camera had zoomed in where I could see him face-to-face, and he turned His head and spoke directly to me saying, “Was this not enough?” There is power in the Blood of Christ over ALL sin. I once had a demon try to possess me when I was a young man. He came twice for my soul. He made all sorts of tempting promises in exchange for my soul. I somehow knew he had the capability to fulfill those promises, but I could “feel” the immense hatred he had for me. The first time the demon came, he tried to penetrate the aura around my body (my spirit). I could somehow see this. I fought him with everything I had and woke up thoroughly exhausted. Strangely, when I awoke, I was sitting up in the bed instead of lying down with my head on the pillow. I’m not sure exactly, but I believe my body may have been about to levitate. I do not have any sleepwalking issues at all. The demon tried again about a month later. This time, my guardian angel immediately came to my rescue and was singing to the demon in the angelic tongue while simultaneously I was hearing it sung in perfect English. I can only remember the most important words in the song sung by… Read more »
Aaron
Aaron
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September 8, 2016 3:36 PM

Amazing word Carl

SeanC
SeanC
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September 8, 2016 8:38 PM

Wow that is so cool! I had a similar but low key encounter with a demon in a dream before and by the grace of God he gave me the boldness to cast it out. I woke up just as I cast it out.

brandy
brandy
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September 9, 2016 5:51 PM

I have had many spiritual attacks (nightmares) which usually coincide with a breakthrough or with me trying to help someone to the Lord. Praise GOD that he has given me the boldness to call on Jesus to stop them. Once, I began to recite Psalm 91 after the I realized what was going on and when I woke up, I was just on the 2nd verse, still reciting it as I woke up. The enemy knows when we are growing in our relationship with the Lord and he knows when we are trying to lead others to Jesus. I had an attack last month that involved the entity trying to tell me that I did not need to quit my sin (I am currently struggling with smoking), when I told it no, it got very violent. The enemy uses all in his arsenal against us. I have spoken with many who said that after they got saved they thought things would get better and fall into place, but instead they began to suffer from all sorts of attacks, nightmares, persecution. As believers we must expect such attacks and realize that Jesus has already won the war, that we have power through his blood and name.

Carl Manning
Carl Manning
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September 10, 2016 4:38 AM
Yes, they will fight you, but when they come, call on the name above all names, and they will flee. After the Lord awoke me in 2009 and said simply, “Pray for India”, I immediately began to pray intercessory prayer for India. The Lord downloaded the prayer and as I prayed it, I was taken up into Heaven and outer space in the spirit high above the Earth and specifically the country of India. I observed an angel putting on armor in a locker room in Heaven. I observed the gates of Heaven bursting forth with angels of war in their chariots heading down to the country of India. I could see pockets of darkness all over the country of India break out with the fire of the Holy Ghost everywhere that the angels of war attacked. About a day or so later, while asleep, I was picked up by a fallen angel who had grabbed me from behind such that I could not see his face, but I could make out the tips of what looked like giant batwings beneath my feet as we flew up in the air. He took me out to the wilderness and proceeded to beat me up good. When I could see him, he appeared as just a giant mass of anthropomorphic darkness in the shape of a big man. We were wrestling and punching each other. I knew instinctively that he was stronger than me, and he was definitely after a while winning the fight. It was then that I called on the name of Jesus for help, and the fallen angel vanished immediately. It was around two weeks later that my wife and I decided on a whim to attend an open-mike prayer meeting at a new church we had started to… Read more »
James Bailey
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September 10, 2016 10:19 AM

Thanks for sharing this awesome testimony Carl.

Susie
Susie
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September 7, 2016 10:19 PM
Yes. Never give up on a “thief on the cross” salvation for someone at the end of their life. Years ago when I was involved in youth ministry, I told my 16 yr old son I would pay him $5/head for every kid he loaded up and brought to the youth service. He wanted gas money, I wanted teenagers 🙂 One evening, he brought a friend who was new in town, rebellious and from a broken home. We had powerful worship and our youth pastor gave a salvation message. My son told me later that the boy had mocked things throughout the evening. That didn’t bother me. You don’t squirm unless there is something you are resisting (the Holy Spirit). A couple of weeks later, the boy drove into a tree with alcohol and Xanax in his system and died. I was bothered (tormented) for weeks that the boy was in hell. For a couple of weeks I asked, “what could we have done different that night?” I felt WE had failed. The boy didn’t respond during our “scheduled service”, I could only imagine him in hell. Finally, as I was asking the Lord again, I heard him say, “How do you know he didn’t call out to me with his last breath?” (It was not known if he died instantly as it was 2am) A peace washed over me. He had been introduced to Jesus. I have no doubt that the Lord arranged his attendance there for the purpose of drawing him. I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit continued to tug on him. Likely, others had planted seeds before us. While the Lord never gave me a direct answer to that question, I believe the Lord, in His mercy,gave him one last moment of consciousness to call… Read more »
Adam S.
Member
September 7, 2016 11:14 PM

Hello Sharon,

Just a thought, but perhaps sharing with this man the account of David’s adultery with Bathsheba, and subsequent conspiring to have her husband (Uriah the Hittite) slain in battle would be a good Bible reference to share with him? (ref. II Samuel ch. 11)

David certainly sinned here in both committing adultery and murder, yet God did forgive his sin (albeit not without consequences for David and Israel).

Not only this, but many men of the LORD, the tribes of Israel, throughout the history recorded in the Old Testament, were called to war against the tribes of Canaan: once to initially lay claim to the Land of Promise, and also all throughout the reigns of the Judges and Kings of Israel during various wars.

God can forgive any sin. Faith also comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.

Hope this message will prove helpful.

sharon m
sharon m
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September 7, 2016 11:41 PM

Thank you Adam S, I will share more of the bible stories with ED the story of David is a good , and shows Gods grace ,,I sense a stubborness in him too, his heart needs to be humbled he has fear but also pride ,fear that God will reject him but also pride. im confused by that ! He knows hell is real doesnt want to go their and feels he should go their, but at the same time he seems proud and not ready to turn to the Lord .God knows his heart and I am praying for a miracle !

Stella
Stella
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September 8, 2016 7:00 AM

Hi Sharon, also you can tell him about the thief on the cross, last minute disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ngrace
Ngrace
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September 7, 2016 10:16 PM

Sharon m….have you mentioned about Paul to him …Paul said he was the chief among sinners …because he used to order the christians to be killed….yet Jesus loved him and saved him and he wrote much in the new testament..one historical account of Paul was …he would have the soldier’s drag
parents out of the house and have them killed in front of their children…..im praying for them with you….keep us updated!

sharon m
sharon m
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September 7, 2016 10:35 PM

Thank you Ngrace…. I havent mentioned the story of Paul,Good Idea I have talked with him of other testimonys of people coming to the Lord. one I read was a nazi leader who was given the gospel and repented! Thank you for praying for ED!

Carl Manning
Carl Manning
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September 8, 2016 2:16 PM

Tell him about how Paul (at that time named Saul) supervised and condoned the stoning of Stephen to death. Who knows how many others Saul may have killed? Yet, he became one of the most prolific Apostles for the Early Church. Even one of the Roman soldiers who put Christ to death became a saved Christian who in turn led many to salvation. The Lord even forgave all of the people who put him to death while he was dying on the cross saying, “Father, forgive them; they know not what they do.” God desires none of His children to enter into eternal damnation, and he didn’t put any qualifiers on that statement such as “except murderers and abortionists…” He seems to be believing a lie out of the mouth of Saran that he is too bad to be forgiven. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Carl Manning
Carl Manning
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September 8, 2016 2:51 PM

Satan not Saran – I can’t stand spellcheckers. lol!

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